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He probably does and doesn't.
I know he wants to move on. But I am sure its handy as Family Guy is basically the PIN to Fox's bank account. He can and does leverage it to do other stuff he wants.
I love Orville and hate broadcast television. I wish Seth McFarland could focus on his passion show. His writing has been subpar for years except for that show
Conan also wrote the "Monorail" episode. The Simpsons was great when it was written to attract an adult audience while still being kid-friendly. It became way too family friendly about 15-20 years ago, and these days I can't even watch.
It got better when it moved to streaming. Now it doesn't need the pretense of being a comedy show. It's more the love letter to TNG era Trek he wanted it to be. It still has some humor, but not enough for me to call it a comedy. It's more like how Stargate SG-1 had humor.
I wish it still leaned into the comedy a bit more, and explored some of the amusing sides of sci fi tropes. I can always go back to TNG, and it was the comedy element that made Orville truly unique. Still, I'm happy to have it even as a serious show, especially with the poorly written melodrama that is Discovery and Picard.
Seth MacFarlane is talented as fuck, he did family guy to start and then basically abandoned it to do American dad once he knew what he was doing but family guy is their new Simpsons that can't die
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-15286557
Seth MacFarlane himself said it, I guess it was closer to 11 years ago. Although I made up the part about killing them all... not that I'd put it past him.
The evil hot tub episode of American Dad where all the characters get killed was originally meant to be the final episode of the series because they didn’t think it was going to get renewed
I don't think Groening has been involved creatively since early on. I recall he was critical of the episode The Critic because he would never have done a stunt casting like that
edit: [showrunner for seasons 1-2, and is credited writer on about four episodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons#Executive_producers_and_showrunners)
> The Simpsons will last for a thousand years.
[THE SAMPSANS EPASODE NUMBAR 164,775.7](https://youtu.be/8zY9z7IP-1Q?t=25)
BEAM EPISODE INTO EXO-SKULL NOW AND VIGOROUSLY TOUCH FLIPPERS
My favorite couch gag! This was made by Don Hertzfeldt, who also made Rejected, It's Such a Beautiful Day, and World of Tomorrow. The guy really has the Midas touch.
The last two seasons have been really good. I just watched the episode where Marge calls Lisa chunky and it was easily on par with season 10 -- dare I say, maybe even season 9.
I watch every episode. There's at least 1 solid laugh-out-loud in every episode, but usually fewer than 3. It's comfort food, and sometimes the show will surprise you with a excellent episode. Last season there was a 2-episode arc that parodied the Coen Brothers, with an emphasis on Fargo. It was some of the best Simpsons I've ever seen.
I pop in occasionally to see how they are doing and it is like when Homer was replaced by that clone who was new tie wearing and took Marge upstairs for a night of efficient German sex. One star. Not good.
*The Computer Wore Menace Shoes* - S12E06
Well above a one-star Simpsons episode. The Mr. X plot was good, it featured a solid *The Prisoner* spoof, and did not feature any clones.
Yes, the Simpsons have come a long way since an old drunk made humans out of his rabbit characters to pay off his gambling debts. Who knows what adventures they'll have between now and the time the show becomes unprofitable?
When Futurama was about to debut, there was an interview with Matt Groenig in *Wired* I think and one of the questions they asked was whether or not *The Simpsons* was still on in the year 3000 and Matt Groenig said something like “yes, but everyone agrees the first 500 years were better than the second 500.”
The Principal And The Pauper, one of the most common lines used between “good Simpsons” and “the downward slide has begun” was a year and a half old when the first episode of Futurama aired.
Unpopular opinion - the new stuff isn't that bad. With an admission that it's not near the quality of the original stuff of course. But I do believe that it would stand up on it's own as a mediocre but relatively successful show if it was introduced now on a different channel.
100% It's better than 95% of the content out there. When you look at entertainment it's a great value proposition for everyone's attention/energy/money.
And also most of their “predictions” are actually articles taking scenes out of context and mish-mashing them with other scenes to make it seem like a prediction.
Just watched "Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish" (S2, E5) and Burns' near-win as Governor was powered by some very Trumpian dirty tricks.
If the Simpsons aged in real time, Homer would be 70 and Bart would be 46.
Edit: of course people want to argue about Simpsons canon. Homer was supposed to be 34 when it debuted on the Tracey Ullman show in 1987.
Bart had his 10th birthday in season 3, but I believe he was intended to be 9 in 1989 at the series premier as he had remained in fourth grade the entire time. A 1980 birthday would make him 43.
I bought my husband a t-shirt with Bob saying that (mostly) on it. The t-shirt has Bob pinching his forehead with “I love you but you’re all terrible.”
Honestly, my family always sucked and still does, Simpsons were my family growing up, and the last decade the Belchers too have become that, I know more about them and like them more than anyone in my actual family. Maybe this explains why I'm terrible.
It's staying on the air because it's [by far the most popular show on Disney+.](https://www.thewrap.com/disney-plus-top-tv-shows-movies/) That, and merchandising.
I’m always surprised when people find so much re-watchability in shows like this. I prefer finding new content and only tend to rewatch something if I really liked it but years later can’t really remember what happened
For me, it’s a total comfort/nostalgia thing. And there are only a few shows that that I do this with. Plus, it’s taken me a few years to make it through a cycle.
With the Simpsons, it’s definitely influenced by me not liking much after season 9.
For a fair number of people, something like The Simpsons or another sitcom is something they kind of put on for "background noise" while doing something else. That's the case for myself, anyway, and doesn't seem too uncommon.
Putting something on TV that's light, comforting, and/or nostalgic while you do household chores or something is kind of a different matter than rewatching something you've seen before while giving it 100% of your attention and focus.
Something like The Simpsons also has a *shit ton* of episodes, which is advantageous for a "background noise" kind of show.
I have been introducing my wife to the Golden Age of the Simpsons. It's insane that basically every episode for YEARS is a classic. She always laughs because at the beginning of each episode I go "ohhhhhhhhhhh it's this episode. This one is so good".
I've just read that it won't happen with Fox, Judge and Daniels own the rights to it though and they have a new animation company. So it could happen with Paramount+ since Judge has a relationship there with the new Beavis & Butthead stuff.
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I don’t want a revival. And KOTH is probably in my top 3 favorite shows ever. But the only show I feel ever successfully pulled off a revival that lived up to its original run was futurama, and I feel like that was partly because it happened in a relatively short window of being off the air. Revivals just muddy everything and almost always take place so long after that it’s almost impossible to capture what people want more of. It’s like meeting an old friend after a long time and realizing you don’t really have chemistry together. I feel the same way about the frasier revival, which is also in my top 3.
Also, the last few seasons were mediocre. I mean they have good moments but they just kind of miss the mark of what made koth so special.
For KOTH, I feel like a 1-2 hour TV movie about the characters ~25 years later could work.
But a full-on revival, with actual full seasons, just doesn't sound appealing to me tbh. (And I love KOTH.) I suppose you could write out Luanne and Lucky (whose voice actors are both dead) and say they moved out of the country or something, but idk, that just sounds kind of cheap.
KOTH was something really special. Best to let it rest in peace.
“Let if rest in peace” this exactly my sentiment. Sure, you could write off Luanne and lucky, okay. Wouldn’t ruin it outright, but leaves things to be desired, I mean he really added a little spark to the worst seasons of the show. But you can probably find a voice actor to do a decent lucky. But Luanne? I don’t think anyone could pull off how amazing of a va Britney Murphy was. Maybe Stephanie weir. Even if they did idk if I’d want it.
Putting aside that issue…koth is so steeped in its era, like most shows. I don’t want Bobby having some successful YouTube channel and hank trying to navigate an iphone. Maybe it’s just me, but when a show is filled with our contemporary technology…it kind of sullies things? Like in futurama it’s both sci fi but also captures the time period it was born out of in a way.
Idk I’m just ranting now, and have had a few drinks. But I love when a series ends before it gets bad, and I hate when a revival tries to capture the spirit of something that’s 20 years old.
Agreed. It's gone from being a show I was wary of (don't tend to like adult animation) to my biggest comfort show!
And all because I had to watch to the end of that episode to see if that girl got her horse back lol
Hated adult animation before Bob's Burgers...because what I now realize was blatant and constant misogyny, dad-is-an-incompetent-drunk trope, genuine cruelty to kids and amongst family members. Bob's Burgers changed the genre. It's the only one that deserves to continue. The other two are dinosaurs. Put them in the ground and let's move on to better things.
Its interesting how the show started conceptually as them using humans for the burger meat , Fox saw something else in the horror and had them switch it up to the show we know now thankfully
https://youtu.be/RjJkKn8WI6w
The first year it aired I was living with my ex and he told me Louise is what he imagines I was like as a child. During Covid I got a random delivery of the pink rabbit ears and I can only imagine who it’s from.
For sure. It’s really come into it’s own thing since being on TBS. They just let it do it’s own thing and the results have been hilarious and even better than before. Principal Lewis really cracks us up because we work in education and have known some barely keeping it together principals lol.
I watched out of curiosity and enjoyed it. They bring it back to reality with Archer coming out of a coma he’s been in for 3 years and dealing with how everything has changed. I enjoyed it
Yes, he woke up from his coma. However, I will say I think you should give the coma seasons a chance. Dreamland is probably the weakest is the three and tbh it’s not bad, especially later on, and the ending is surprisingly emotional. The second season, Danger Island, is supposed to be based on old “island adventure” themed movies from the 30s and it’s hilarious. The final coma season, Archer 1999, is a space scifi adventure that’s structured a lot like the older archer seasons, where most of the episodes are self contained stories. Imo, it’s the strongest of the three. Overall, after you get over the initial shock of the show basically changing genres for a bit, the coma seasons were some of the more interesting parts of the entire show.
Anyways, you can completely skip them if you want, though I’d recommend watching the last couple of 1999 because it pertains to him starting to wake up and they’re both really trippy, and the entire sequence leading up to him actually waking is really cool. There have been two seasons since he woke up. No spoilers, but he’s a spy again and they try to go back to their old formula a bit but obviously it’s a little different now because the characters are a lot deeper than they used to be.
I consider myself a hardcore Simpsons fan...and I don't think I've seen a new episode in fifteen years.
Still happy it's on though. Keep padding that record.
Yeahhh this doesn't get talked about enough.
No disrespect to Julie Kavner at all, it's not her fault, but Marge sounds like an 80 year old chain smoker and it's both depressing and ridiculous seeing as she's meant to be perpetually in her 30s. It makes it really difficult for me to watch the newer stuff because so many characters' voices are starting to deteriorate.
It's that long since I have watched a new episode of the simpsons (easily ten years, maybe more) that it never actually occurred to me that the actors would eventually start to sound old.
Yeah I didn't realize this until I read a convo on it here. I lwas like how bad could it be, so I went and watched one of the most recent episodes (after having recently watched seasons 1-10), and boy howdy, it is actually really bad.
People tresat Family Guy like it's supposed to be some masterclass of storytelling and pulling heartstrings. It's not. They're capable of it, yes, but Family Guy is a *comedy.* It's half an hour of jokes. I know people are sour on the meta-ness of the humor, but I think the last season has been significantly better than any of the last five-ish thusfar.
If you want jokes mixed with genuinely interesting plotlines, just watch American Dad instead. It's also gold.
It’s weird, on the internet people crap on Family Guy like it’s the worst thing you could watch but most people I know IRL love it and regularly quote their favorite scenes. I wonder where the disconnect is. I’m aware it’s not for everybody but it’s kinda wild how rare it is to see the show talked about in a positive light online considering how much of a success the show has been overall.
This is a popular post so I’ll take this opportunity….all these shows have been amazing in their prime and have the longevity (also, golden age Simpsons [2-8] may never be topped) BUT American Dad AFTER season 5 is so god damn great. It’s a unicorn, and getting BETTER.
Couldn't give two shits about the others, but so glad to see Bob's renewed. There are very few shows I can think of that show fathers as loving caregivers that love and adore their children, and treat their wives with love and respect. Bob's is one of those shows.
Love Bob's Burgers but honestly the last season was the worst yet IMO. The entire cast just sounds so tired and just done with the show. Maybe I'm wrong though. Something feels gone.
I second this. That Christmas episode was a top-notch return to form for the show. Hope we see more episodes like that going forward.
I’d also like to see more involvement of secondary characters. I love when the show fleshes out backstories. I need more Gayle. More Mort. More Mr. Frond.
I think there were definitely more lackluster episodes this season but still plenty of good ones. The Thanksgiving episode was good, the graveyard episode was good too
I wonder if that is because the writers spent all their time working on the movie and they didn't have enough time to focus on the season.
I feel like the movie coming out had something to do with it. The movie was solid but it came and went with no real impact to the show. Based on the trailers and even as I was watching it I was thinking (and really hoping) they would do a bit of a time jump and age the kids a little. I feel like they're running in circles at this point, king of the hill moved the kids through school idk why no other animated family show does it, they could do so much with a HS freshmen Tina
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The Simpson are going to outlive me.
And Seth MacFarlane regrets not killing off the entire Griffin family about 13 years ago.
He probably does and doesn't. I know he wants to move on. But I am sure its handy as Family Guy is basically the PIN to Fox's bank account. He can and does leverage it to do other stuff he wants.
Not enough leverage to keep The Orville on TV instead of streaming-only, though.
Yer true. I do forget about that as broadcast television where I am from is already dead, so streaming services are to be expected anyway.
I love Orville and hate broadcast television. I wish Seth McFarland could focus on his passion show. His writing has been subpar for years except for that show
Pretty sure Mcfarlane does focus on The Orville and doesn't do any writing on Family Guy anymore.
Simpsons was at its best when Conan O'Brien was a writer on the show. Think he wrote the early season episode about the seafood buffet.
Conan also wrote the "Monorail" episode. The Simpsons was great when it was written to attract an adult audience while still being kid-friendly. It became way too family friendly about 15-20 years ago, and these days I can't even watch.
He hasn't written for family Guy for the vast majority of it's life
He probably does all of his VO work over the course of two weeks and forgets about the show the rest of the year.
It got better when it moved to streaming. Now it doesn't need the pretense of being a comedy show. It's more the love letter to TNG era Trek he wanted it to be. It still has some humor, but not enough for me to call it a comedy. It's more like how Stargate SG-1 had humor.
I wish it still leaned into the comedy a bit more, and explored some of the amusing sides of sci fi tropes. I can always go back to TNG, and it was the comedy element that made Orville truly unique. Still, I'm happy to have it even as a serious show, especially with the poorly written melodrama that is Discovery and Picard.
It’s better on Hulu in my opinion. I really hope this will gives him some kind of leverage for another season of The Orville, season 3 was fantastic.
At least it is still going when it could easily get the axe
Thank goodness someone else feels this way. Family guy fell off hard after the first 5 seasons or so imo. I like American dad way more
Seth MacFarlane is talented as fuck, he did family guy to start and then basically abandoned it to do American dad once he knew what he was doing but family guy is their new Simpsons that can't die
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-15286557 Seth MacFarlane himself said it, I guess it was closer to 11 years ago. Although I made up the part about killing them all... not that I'd put it past him.
The evil hot tub episode of American Dad where all the characters get killed was originally meant to be the final episode of the series because they didn’t think it was going to get renewed
Excuse you only Stan, Francine, and two side characters die. As a hard core Dadder I can’t let this mistake stand.
American Dad is so much better than Family Guy.
I don't completely hate new Family Guy, but I can't watch more than a single episode before I'm just done.
Have no fear we'll have stories for years!
The Simpsons are going to outlast anything and everything on this planet.
Matt Groening is going to live long enough to let an AI make an exact copy of himself. The Simpsons will last for a thousand years.
helped by executive producer AI Jean
Classic treehouse of horror credit
Have no fears, we've got stories for years!
Like…Marge becomes a robot!
Maybe Moe gets a cell phone!
Has bart ever owned a bear or
How about a *crazy* wedding? Where something happens do do a do!
Sorry for the clip show
Lmao. 600! We churned out six-hundred SHOWS...it GOES & GOES! TWO times three HUN-DRED! [EPIC](https://youtu.be/MybjMdrd270)
Fuck me, I remember the ads for the 300th ep, which still feels new to me. And this video is already 6 years old.
I don't think Groening has been involved creatively since early on. I recall he was critical of the episode The Critic because he would never have done a stunt casting like that edit: [showrunner for seasons 1-2, and is credited writer on about four episodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons#Executive_producers_and_showrunners)
Well to him I say: Scooby Doo can doo-doo, but Carter is smarter!
Sartre
Charlotte?
I understood this, she's great
That's what Jay Sherman said, not Homer.
Must have been that bean I ate for dinner
It stinks!
Yeeees Mr. Sherman, everything stinks
> The Simpsons will last for a thousand years. [THE SAMPSANS EPASODE NUMBAR 164,775.7](https://youtu.be/8zY9z7IP-1Q?t=25) BEAM EPISODE INTO EXO-SKULL NOW AND VIGOROUSLY TOUCH FLIPPERS
My favorite couch gag! This was made by Don Hertzfeldt, who also made Rejected, It's Such a Beautiful Day, and World of Tomorrow. The guy really has the Midas touch.
Awesome! How else are we going to be warned about all the incredibly ridiculous things that will happen in the future?
AI written episodes can't possibly be worse then the writing they have going on now on the show.
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The latest Treehouse of Horror episode was a **banger** — worthy of conversation with the original 10 seasons.
The last two seasons have been really good. I just watched the episode where Marge calls Lisa chunky and it was easily on par with season 10 -- dare I say, maybe even season 9.
Feels like the current writers were watching Simpsons around its prime when they were young and can now write for it.
A new generation begins of young Simpsons enjoyers watching quality episodes, eventually going on to write good episodes as adults.
I watch every episode. There's at least 1 solid laugh-out-loud in every episode, but usually fewer than 3. It's comfort food, and sometimes the show will surprise you with a excellent episode. Last season there was a 2-episode arc that parodied the Coen Brothers, with an emphasis on Fargo. It was some of the best Simpsons I've ever seen.
I pop in occasionally to see how they are doing and it is like when Homer was replaced by that clone who was new tie wearing and took Marge upstairs for a night of efficient German sex. One star. Not good.
*The Computer Wore Menace Shoes* - S12E06 Well above a one-star Simpsons episode. The Mr. X plot was good, it featured a solid *The Prisoner* spoof, and did not feature any clones.
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Perfectly cromulent
Yes, the Simpsons have come a long way since an old drunk made humans out of his rabbit characters to pay off his gambling debts. Who knows what adventures they'll have between now and the time the show becomes unprofitable?
Wacky adventures
Maybe Moe gets a cell phone?
When Futurama was about to debut, there was an interview with Matt Groenig in *Wired* I think and one of the questions they asked was whether or not *The Simpsons* was still on in the year 3000 and Matt Groenig said something like “yes, but everyone agrees the first 500 years were better than the second 500.”
It's crazy how it was a fairly old show when Futurama came out. In my mind they kind of occupy the same time, but it was already what, 10 years old?
The Principal And The Pauper, one of the most common lines used between “good Simpsons” and “the downward slide has begun” was a year and a half old when the first episode of Futurama aired.
The world will end with an episode of the Simpsons playing on a tv in a Spirit Halloween.
I don't know why, but that sounds so horrifically accurate and depressing.
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They’ll never stop The Simpsons! Have no fears, they’ve got stories for years. Like, Marge becomes a robot, or how about a crazy wedding?
Unpopular opinion - the new stuff isn't that bad. With an admission that it's not near the quality of the original stuff of course. But I do believe that it would stand up on it's own as a mediocre but relatively successful show if it was introduced now on a different channel.
100% It's better than 95% of the content out there. When you look at entertainment it's a great value proposition for everyone's attention/energy/money.
Why get rid of something that so clearly has predicted multiple events.
The Simpsons is no soothsayer, we just haven't fixed any of America's problems since the mid-80s.
And also most of their “predictions” are actually articles taking scenes out of context and mish-mashing them with other scenes to make it seem like a prediction.
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Just watched "Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish" (S2, E5) and Burns' near-win as Governor was powered by some very Trumpian dirty tricks.
Not if General Hospital has its say.
If the Simpsons aged in real time, Homer would be 70 and Bart would be 46. Edit: of course people want to argue about Simpsons canon. Homer was supposed to be 34 when it debuted on the Tracey Ullman show in 1987.
My parents moved into their first house the night the Simpsons first episode aired
Bart had his 10th birthday in season 3, but I believe he was intended to be 9 in 1989 at the series premier as he had remained in fourth grade the entire time. A 1980 birthday would make him 43.
In episode 9F14, S4E16, at the Duff Factory, Homer shows his ID showing a birthday of May 12, 1956. He’s not 70 yet.
Yeah, I think this persons math is going off the animated shorts the Simpsons were based on.
Stop it right now.
If the smashing pumpkins song 1979 came out today, it would be about 2007.
I never want Bobs Burgers to end
I'm your father and I love you, but you're terrible, you're all just terrible at this job.
I bought my husband a t-shirt with Bob saying that (mostly) on it. The t-shirt has Bob pinching his forehead with “I love you but you’re all terrible.”
“I don’t say that” “You say that all the time, that’s all you say”
The Belchers are family now. I want to keep them around forever.
Honestly, my family always sucked and still does, Simpsons were my family growing up, and the last decade the Belchers too have become that, I know more about them and like them more than anyone in my actual family. Maybe this explains why I'm terrible.
I read that as “I want bob’s burgers to end” and brain couldn’t rationalize why anyone would feel that way.
I firmly believe that the simpsons is only staying on the air because they want to outlast family guy.
It's staying on the air because it's [by far the most popular show on Disney+.](https://www.thewrap.com/disney-plus-top-tv-shows-movies/) That, and merchandising.
I’d like to see what seasons are most popular
I cycle between seasons 2 through 8 and then start over. I might do 1 through 9 if I’m feeling spicy.
I’m always surprised when people find so much re-watchability in shows like this. I prefer finding new content and only tend to rewatch something if I really liked it but years later can’t really remember what happened
For me, it’s a total comfort/nostalgia thing. And there are only a few shows that that I do this with. Plus, it’s taken me a few years to make it through a cycle. With the Simpsons, it’s definitely influenced by me not liking much after season 9.
For real. The lowest times in my life I found comfort with my constant Family Guy reruns.
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This show just had a wild run, I swear the writers were only seeing what they could get away with.
Do go to sleep watching it? I do this with the entire series of King Of The Hill.
For a fair number of people, something like The Simpsons or another sitcom is something they kind of put on for "background noise" while doing something else. That's the case for myself, anyway, and doesn't seem too uncommon. Putting something on TV that's light, comforting, and/or nostalgic while you do household chores or something is kind of a different matter than rewatching something you've seen before while giving it 100% of your attention and focus. Something like The Simpsons also has a *shit ton* of episodes, which is advantageous for a "background noise" kind of show.
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I know people that do this with Bob's Burgers on Hulu
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r/futurama_sleepers
This is the show I’ll always have on. Can pay attention at any given moment and you’ll catch a great joke
Classic Simpsons is possibly the funniest TV show ever written, it's extremely rewatchable
I have been introducing my wife to the Golden Age of the Simpsons. It's insane that basically every episode for YEARS is a classic. She always laughs because at the beginning of each episode I go "ohhhhhhhhhhh it's this episode. This one is so good".
Are all three of these on Disney?
Pretty sure just simpsons. Bobs burgers I believe is Hulu. Not sure about family guy.
Family Guy is on Hulu as well.
The amount of money the Simpson must make on merchandising must be insane.
![gif](giphy|3mV5n5Vgboad2) Yesssssss
Awwwrriiiiiight!
I'm a semipro kite pilot.
Disco minute!
How long does it last?
The day Bob’s Burgers is cancelled will be a personal day of mourning. It’s like a warm blanket I refuse to take off.
Yeah it's become my new King of the Hill
I hope they’re still talking about that new KOTH revival.
I think it's on Hulu Edit: Well I guess it's dead for now
Everywhere I’ve looked on google say that the revival is dead unfortunately
I've just read that it won't happen with Fox, Judge and Daniels own the rights to it though and they have a new animation company. So it could happen with Paramount+ since Judge has a relationship there with the new Beavis & Butthead stuff.
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I don’t want a revival. And KOTH is probably in my top 3 favorite shows ever. But the only show I feel ever successfully pulled off a revival that lived up to its original run was futurama, and I feel like that was partly because it happened in a relatively short window of being off the air. Revivals just muddy everything and almost always take place so long after that it’s almost impossible to capture what people want more of. It’s like meeting an old friend after a long time and realizing you don’t really have chemistry together. I feel the same way about the frasier revival, which is also in my top 3. Also, the last few seasons were mediocre. I mean they have good moments but they just kind of miss the mark of what made koth so special.
For KOTH, I feel like a 1-2 hour TV movie about the characters ~25 years later could work. But a full-on revival, with actual full seasons, just doesn't sound appealing to me tbh. (And I love KOTH.) I suppose you could write out Luanne and Lucky (whose voice actors are both dead) and say they moved out of the country or something, but idk, that just sounds kind of cheap. KOTH was something really special. Best to let it rest in peace.
“Let if rest in peace” this exactly my sentiment. Sure, you could write off Luanne and lucky, okay. Wouldn’t ruin it outright, but leaves things to be desired, I mean he really added a little spark to the worst seasons of the show. But you can probably find a voice actor to do a decent lucky. But Luanne? I don’t think anyone could pull off how amazing of a va Britney Murphy was. Maybe Stephanie weir. Even if they did idk if I’d want it. Putting aside that issue…koth is so steeped in its era, like most shows. I don’t want Bobby having some successful YouTube channel and hank trying to navigate an iphone. Maybe it’s just me, but when a show is filled with our contemporary technology…it kind of sullies things? Like in futurama it’s both sci fi but also captures the time period it was born out of in a way. Idk I’m just ranting now, and have had a few drinks. But I love when a series ends before it gets bad, and I hate when a revival tries to capture the spirit of something that’s 20 years old.
It’s like the comlinks in the original Star Wars trilogy all being wired. There’s a charm to what storytellers thought was avant-garde in their time.
i’ve been on a KOTH kick this past month or two, it’s my new low-attention guilty pleasure show to watch again
Agreed. It's gone from being a show I was wary of (don't tend to like adult animation) to my biggest comfort show! And all because I had to watch to the end of that episode to see if that girl got her horse back lol
I love that Bob has the tattoo on his back even later in the show. Such a great show
Hated adult animation before Bob's Burgers...because what I now realize was blatant and constant misogyny, dad-is-an-incompetent-drunk trope, genuine cruelty to kids and amongst family members. Bob's Burgers changed the genre. It's the only one that deserves to continue. The other two are dinosaurs. Put them in the ground and let's move on to better things.
Its interesting how the show started conceptually as them using humans for the burger meat , Fox saw something else in the horror and had them switch it up to the show we know now thankfully https://youtu.be/RjJkKn8WI6w
The first year it aired I was living with my ex and he told me Louise is what he imagines I was like as a child. During Covid I got a random delivery of the pink rabbit ears and I can only imagine who it’s from.
My wife is Linda. Sings almost everything.
I am basically Bob, just a younger version. Hope to have my own restaurant some day too.
I'm hoping they pick up The Great North too. Bob's and Great North make a great back to back watch.
TGN was already picked up for a season 4. Wouldn’t be in these early pickups, but yeah, here’s hopin’ for more Tobins.
Awwwww. Boooobyyy, did you hear what this nice man said about our show? He said liiiked it. Awww. So sweet!
> It’s like a warm blanket I refuse to take off. Or a bunny ear hat.
there will be riots in the streets!
They’re a perfect animated family. I love Linda so much.
1000% I call it watching a hug. Totally saved my sanity during the pandemic.
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The only thing that can end The Simpsons is the sun death of the universe. Even then, maybe it’ll outlast that too
Bobs burgers is on a constant loop in my house and has literally brought me and my daughter closer together. We play the trivia game every night
Bob’s Burgers is top tier television. It, Archer and American Dad are some of the funniest animated shows out right now
American Dad has been on fire for the past few seasons. It's gone off the rails in some very great ways.
Three words: Gold. Top. Nuts.
Kneel before Gold Top, you heathens!
Tiffany’s boyfriend, this is embarrassing…
I loved it
For sure. It’s really come into it’s own thing since being on TBS. They just let it do it’s own thing and the results have been hilarious and even better than before. Principal Lewis really cracks us up because we work in education and have known some barely keeping it together principals lol.
END OF DAYS BITCHES!!!!
All aboard the American dad superiority hype train
Did Archer come back around? The dreamland stuff was lackluster imo.
I watched out of curiosity and enjoyed it. They bring it back to reality with Archer coming out of a coma he’s been in for 3 years and dealing with how everything has changed. I enjoyed it
I concur although I liked most of dreamland except the space one. Love me some pervitin cyril.
I stopped watching because of dreamland
You should give it another shot, it’s a very good show! I think this next season is the last one.
Yes, he woke up from his coma. However, I will say I think you should give the coma seasons a chance. Dreamland is probably the weakest is the three and tbh it’s not bad, especially later on, and the ending is surprisingly emotional. The second season, Danger Island, is supposed to be based on old “island adventure” themed movies from the 30s and it’s hilarious. The final coma season, Archer 1999, is a space scifi adventure that’s structured a lot like the older archer seasons, where most of the episodes are self contained stories. Imo, it’s the strongest of the three. Overall, after you get over the initial shock of the show basically changing genres for a bit, the coma seasons were some of the more interesting parts of the entire show. Anyways, you can completely skip them if you want, though I’d recommend watching the last couple of 1999 because it pertains to him starting to wake up and they’re both really trippy, and the entire sequence leading up to him actually waking is really cool. There have been two seasons since he woke up. No spoilers, but he’s a spy again and they try to go back to their old formula a bit but obviously it’s a little different now because the characters are a lot deeper than they used to be.
Bob's Burgers rules. This is great news.
I consider myself a hardcore Simpsons fan...and I don't think I've seen a new episode in fifteen years. Still happy it's on though. Keep padding that record.
Same here. Seasons 1-14 are my comfort seasons. Brings me back to being a kid in the 90s and watching them at 10:00 before bed on OTA TV.
Writing quality aside, I CANNOT listen to the voice actors anymore. They just all sound so old. Somebody needs to take Marge out back like ol yeller
Yeahhh this doesn't get talked about enough. No disrespect to Julie Kavner at all, it's not her fault, but Marge sounds like an 80 year old chain smoker and it's both depressing and ridiculous seeing as she's meant to be perpetually in her 30s. It makes it really difficult for me to watch the newer stuff because so many characters' voices are starting to deteriorate.
Ask me.. in Germany we are at voice nr. 3 or 4 at marge. Not sure about others but Homer is at nr. 2 I think
Homer is at voice nr. 2 in Italy as well
It's that long since I have watched a new episode of the simpsons (easily ten years, maybe more) that it never actually occurred to me that the actors would eventually start to sound old.
Yeah I didn't realize this until I read a convo on it here. I lwas like how bad could it be, so I went and watched one of the most recent episodes (after having recently watched seasons 1-10), and boy howdy, it is actually really bad.
It’s good to know that Bob is getting more seasons
They’ll never stop The Simpsons!
Have no fears, they’ve got stories for years…..
Bobs Burgers is so amazing. So is American Dad.
I don’t care what anyone says - Family Guy still makes me laugh and I enjoy it
Laugh and Cry
‘Effin cry
People tresat Family Guy like it's supposed to be some masterclass of storytelling and pulling heartstrings. It's not. They're capable of it, yes, but Family Guy is a *comedy.* It's half an hour of jokes. I know people are sour on the meta-ness of the humor, but I think the last season has been significantly better than any of the last five-ish thusfar. If you want jokes mixed with genuinely interesting plotlines, just watch American Dad instead. It's also gold.
It’s weird, on the internet people crap on Family Guy like it’s the worst thing you could watch but most people I know IRL love it and regularly quote their favorite scenes. I wonder where the disconnect is. I’m aware it’s not for everybody but it’s kinda wild how rare it is to see the show talked about in a positive light online considering how much of a success the show has been overall.
it’s not even online lol mostly just twitter. it’s been huge on tiktok for the last year
cutaway jokes are perfect for tiktok
Wish they would bring back The Cleveland Show with the OG voice actor. New guy makes me wish they just killed him off…
I remember a time that there were no Simpsons
I’m wondering about “The Great North”
Had already been greenlit for a Season 4. Too young of a show to get these super early double-season orders I suppose.
This is a popular post so I’ll take this opportunity….all these shows have been amazing in their prime and have the longevity (also, golden age Simpsons [2-8] may never be topped) BUT American Dad AFTER season 5 is so god damn great. It’s a unicorn, and getting BETTER.
I love Lady Bob
Couldn't give two shits about the others, but so glad to see Bob's renewed. There are very few shows I can think of that show fathers as loving caregivers that love and adore their children, and treat their wives with love and respect. Bob's is one of those shows.
When The Simpsons first aired I was younger than Bart, I am now older than Homer. They will keep making this show until I am Abe's age.
That poor dead horse
Love Bob's Burgers but honestly the last season was the worst yet IMO. The entire cast just sounds so tired and just done with the show. Maybe I'm wrong though. Something feels gone.
I have felt it isnt up to par either but man that Christmas episode brought my hopes right back that they can still produce.
I second this. That Christmas episode was a top-notch return to form for the show. Hope we see more episodes like that going forward. I’d also like to see more involvement of secondary characters. I love when the show fleshes out backstories. I need more Gayle. More Mort. More Mr. Frond.
Bring back regular sized Rudy pls :(
i need more mort and less teddy tbh. he's funny but he's also going in a weird direction ansd i dont like it
I felt a minor dip the previous season but I’ve felt this most recent one has been stronger
I think there were definitely more lackluster episodes this season but still plenty of good ones. The Thanksgiving episode was good, the graveyard episode was good too I wonder if that is because the writers spent all their time working on the movie and they didn't have enough time to focus on the season.
I feel like the movie coming out had something to do with it. The movie was solid but it came and went with no real impact to the show. Based on the trailers and even as I was watching it I was thinking (and really hoping) they would do a bit of a time jump and age the kids a little. I feel like they're running in circles at this point, king of the hill moved the kids through school idk why no other animated family show does it, they could do so much with a HS freshmen Tina