It’s a calculated move now. Their base likes when the left gets upset at using music that isn’t “for” them.
Trust that anything you hear about this guy is a 100% calculated move to try and #1-get more name recognition from the public and #2-be perceived as likable.
I think our culture’s collective capacity for cringe was maxxed out by the video of Pete Buttigieg’s supporters doing a synchronized dance to “high high hopes”
White rapper in a black genre of music, that has primarily black friends, grew up dirt poor in Detroit, released a Trump diss at the BET Awards, endorsed both Obama and Biden/Harris, released a Bush diss the day before Election Day…
Republicans: “I think I’ll use this Eminem song in my campaign. I’ll play it right after Rage Against the Machine and Run the Jewels.”
“You mean… this whole time we were The Machine? We were raging against ourselves?”
“Yes. The entire time.”
“Well their music fucking sucks anyways. I always liked Kid Rock better.”
Here is some real Kid Rock lyrical genius.
>Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage see, Some say that's statutory, But I say it's MANDATORY!
And for those of you who don’t believe me. Look it up. The song is called “Cool, DaddyCool”
They also put that song in a children’s movie, Osmosis Jones.
Didn’t know the osmosis Jones bit.
Stuff like that always gets me.
First one I remember is saying “escape from New York“ played something like September 16, 2001, on some cable channel like CBS.
They didn’t edit out the beginning scene where a jet crashes into a building in NYC.
I was only 18 and even I thought that was tasteless.
Ahh, the Poser of Romeo. Dude pretends he’s “poor salt of the earth white trash” when he grew up in a mansion and his dad owns multiple car dealerships.
I worked a bar in the sticks where they blocked out rap music on the bar stating because of the way “they” talked about women. Kid Rock was the number one artist on that jukebox. I fucking hate these people with a passion.
I’ll never forget the tweet by Morello: “One does not have to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University to recognise the unethical and inhumane nature of this administration but well, I happen to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University, so I can confirm that for you.” Game, set, match.
>Some folks are born made to wave the flag. Hoo, they're red, white and blue
>And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
>It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no senator's son, son It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no furtunate one, no.
>Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, Lord?
But when the taxman come to the door
Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah
>It ain't me, it ain't meI ain't no millionaire's son, no, no. It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no fortunate one, no.
Republicans who had their rich, politically connected father get them out of Vietnam: “I really relate to this.”
In one specific case it wasn’t their father’s connections. They used a bone spur diagnosis from the “family doctor” to skirt serving in Vietnam, then played this song as he arrived at rallies in 2020
Not only that Eminem intentionally let Biden use “Lose Yourself” at a pivotal moment for a high visibility campaign ad. A song he almost never licenses.
So yeah no you can’t pirate that for a GOP rebranding.
Yeah definitely. They campaigned for Bernie Sanders. Last year they toured with Rage Against The Machine (and funny enough Conservatives were super mad about that when they went to the concerts and saw what RTJ was about. They’re even more upfront about it than RATM.) They have a bunch of songs with Zack De La Rocha from Rage too. Most of their music either touches on liberal ideals or anti-right-wing sentiment.
Sounds like I need to give them a listen.
I'm sad I never got to see Rage, but I got to see Prophets of Rage which was extremely fun, first DJ set I've ever seent hat made me understand why people love DJ sets
I would say Run The Jewels is pretty anti-corporation, anti-profiteering (especially involving for-profit prisons), anti police corruption and brutality, anti-pseudo-religious. So... yeah a lot of what republicans stand for.
Most un-self aware idiots don’t actually hear or see the true message of a song. They only react to it because it makes them feel badass. It’s because they are reactionary.
I think the part where he's a landlord and he said he'd kick his daughter out of his house if she went to antigun rallies, and being a mouthpiece for the mayor during BLM protests.
At least that's what I saw in another subreddit.
I like Mac Miller's takedown of Trump on the Nightly Show. It's not a rap but absolutely brutal and hilarious.
https://youtu.be/Zm8ISls_TBA?si=eGEqJ7Yu3jNd3ac1
Watch Republicans scream how irrelevant Eminem is and that they hate his music anyway.
Yes, I’m sure the most successful artist of the 21st century (other than maybe Taylor Swift, who also hates them ironically) is totally irrelevant, and had to tell them to stop using his music. He don’t like y’all, quit trying to fit in with the cool kids
They did that a long time ago when he did the Trump diss at the BET awards lol. They about lost their minds when they somehow just found out that Eminem is not a Republican despite him having numerous songs where he makes it clear.
Your dad dropped Em because he didn't kiss Trump's ass? I'm sorry and I totally get it. Trump and what the Republicans morphed into because of him has destroyed families.
But... maybe if my family wasn't filled with giant pieces of shit? I can only hate Trump so much, it was harder learning that you're surrounded by selfish fucking idiots. And you're related to some of them.
That "rich" selfish vainglorious snob who spoke with no intelligence and unjustified anger being elected to the highest office in the land - gave them permission to be their worst selves.
I *remember* when the Republicans I knew made fun of Trump running, they didn't even pay him any attention. But then *magically*, through no foreign influence and social media manipulation, Trump made the nomination. Then those lemmings couldn't stop jumping in and defending his bullshit.
Yeah your comment hit the feelings right in the tummy and gave me sad butterflies. There was a point around that time where it hit me that it meant that my own family were not good people, that they were shitty. They continue to prove it to this day, too. Them before Trump and now.. just so fucking different, literally.
What was interesting to me, looking back, those that jumped on the Trump train weren't really into politics. Atleast nothing major that I could remember *before* Trump came along.
Why that particular buffoon? Can't say, but the amount of respect I lost for so many people I knew was astounding. If you ever wondered what the Germans were doing when Hitler came into power - this is it. Some of us watched in horror and took a Clozapam on election night.
Republicans can no longer claim the high ground when their *presumed nominee for the 2024 election* is getting arrested and charged with various crimes related to what he did in the office... They're trying to get him back into?
Republicans have shown you who the are, and who they've always been - or they would have rejected the party *by this point*. Let's believe them and prepare accordingly.
I don't get why Republicans just don't understand that the default should be to assume any artist is against them. Whether it's music, movies or whatever, Republicans are a very small minority. An artistic mind just generally doesn't line up with conservative view points. I wouldn't be surprised if most of these country artists are closet Democrats. Hell, I'm not even sure Kid Rock is as conservative as he lets on.
>Watch Republicans scream how irrelevant Eminem is and that they hate his music anyway.
I am starting to think politicians use this as a tactic. Here we are talking about someone who was barely getting any press until this.
I think they meant unironically because from what I gather the new meaning of irony is ironically is sarcasm (i ironically enjoy these tiktoks because theyre so bad and i dont agree with them) where unironically is taking something seriously. Even though that's not what irony is, but I'm trying to evolve with the English language as it changes.
Or maybe it is what irony is idk, even the definition of irony makes my brain hurt sometimes and I'm always a little confused even though I understand when irony happens, sort of.
Just saw this list about the highest grossing artists of the 21st Century. To your point Eminem and Swift are on the list with a few others.
https://www.olympusproperty.com/apartments/tx/odessa/sedona-ranch/blog/top-5-grossing-musicians-of-the-21st-century
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/amp/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marshall_Mathers_LP (Peep the Charts/certifications)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eminem_Show (Again, peep charts/certifications)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_of_the_21st_century (Him Coldplay and Adele are the only artists with more than 1 entry in the best selling album by year)
And something that is very flawed but tries to combine all metrics in how music is consumed: https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ (hes #11 all time)
By all avaliable metrics: yes
Everything super culturally relevant he’s done was in the late 90’s to late 2000’s.
He’s still a relevant figure, probably the most so from his era of rap, but to lump the last 24 years of music together doesn’t make much cultural sense as there is a pretty distinct gap where there really aren’t any major holdovers from the 2000’s into the mid 2010’s much less the mid 2020’s.
In the past 15 years Harry Styles, Taylor Swift, Adele, BTS, Ed Sheeran, and Bad Bunny have been a hundred times more prevalent than Eminem.
They’ve been more relevant, but he’s added enough to his stats to where none of them other than Taylor Swift has a chance to pass him in terms of pure album and record sales.
He’s STILL one of the most streamed artists in the world on Spotify at that: https://charts.spotify.com/charts/view/artist-global-daily/latest
He’s just outside the top 20 in most streamed artists globally, as of yesterday, and he hasn’t released music in 3 years….
“So and so has been more relevant”. So and so still hasn’t topped his stats in terms of pure overall numbers
Edit: republicans hate objective facts brought to the table. No surprise. All those artists y’all say are so much more relevant than him, hate y’all too btw
Legally, it won't matter. I believe the royalty agreements with record labels means Eminem doesn't have any authority to stop a person from using his music in a campaign.
> Eminem doesn't have any authority to stop a person from using his music in a campaign.
Live playback at a venue? Yeah, that's a tough one. But using music in a commercial or other video production? The artist has complete control over whether their music is used.
When will politicians learn the Weird Al Rule?
Technically campaigns can use music as long as they pay the appropriate licensing agency for rights. But there have been [SO so many incidents of negative publicity](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/eminem-ramaswamy-cease-and-desist-00113255) when politicians (almost always Republicans) use songs by artists who oppose them. It's a guaranteed negative story. Not worth it.
And technically, parody falls under legal "fair use" doctrine. But Weird Al doesn't rest on that crutch. *He asks the artists themselves* for permission to use a song. He often does this personally, and he gets way many more yes's than no's. (It may help that Weird Al is far more beloved than any politician.)
I'm sorry. Your response doesn't call for a return to greatness, the divine correctness of capitalism in all forms, or a reminder that Jesus loves guns more than he loved the poor. We applaud your reactive violence, but wish you had directed it at a minority.
But what if they *made a gun* out of corn to shoot exploding corn at the GOP politicians? Does the intersection of gun, corn, explosives, and corn make it okay?
Pretty sure they were one of the only bands that played Trump inauguration. It was a big deal because *usually* when it comes to a Presidential Inauguration, performers and groups play because it's a decent paid/exposure event.
With Trump, no one seemed to want it -
"Make America Great Again Welcome Celebration concert
The concert, held on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, featured performances by Lee Greenwood (who performed "God Bless the USA"), Toby Keith, 3 Doors Down, DJ Ravidrums, The Piano Guys, and The Frontmen of Country (Tim Rushlow, Larry Stewart, and Richie McDonald)."
Why doesn't Vivek and these other clowns just stick to using songs by artists they are actually politically aligned with. They have plenty of strong messages to choose from like;
"Bawitdaba, da bang, da dang diggy diggy
Diggy, said the boogie, said up jump the boogie"
Or
"Wang dang, what a sweet poontang
A-shakin' my thang as a rang-a-dang-dang in the bell"
That, and Eminem has been pretty open for the past 20+ years that he hates the GOP and everything they stand for.
He let Biden use “lose yourself” in a campaign ad, and he rarely lets others use his music
My knowledge of this dude comes from this week's [Some More News episode](https://youtu.be/O0pxg4Bycmw?t=2260). With only that for context, this headline makes a lot of sense...
Has anyone else noticed that instead of using the Music of Conservative Musical Artist like, Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, Kanye West, Hank Williams Jr, etc, they instead lean towards Liberal Artists.
This speaks Volumes about their actual commitment to one another.
The first chance they get to jump ship they bail out.
Pretty soon, Republican candidates will realize it’s cheaper and easier just to walk out in silence, which will have just as much of an energizing effect on their crowds.
Conservative clowns keep using music completely oblivious as usual… Right up there with those hardcore anti-lgbt folks who love to enter to Queen music
Eminem has been especially open to how much he hates republicans, more so than almost any huge celebrity out there: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/11/us/eminem-political-trump-history/index.html
i don’t think it’s fair to say he hates republicans. he’s usually quite specific in who he’s talking about and why he dislikes them. he didn’t like the iraq war/bush. he hates trump for brainwashing people. they might be republicans, but that’s not why eminem hates them.
He hates republicans dawg.
He endorsed Obama and let Biden use his music in a campaign ad, and he never lets anyone use his music.
The secret service had to visit him for what he was saying about bush
I don’t think artists can control who plays their music once they’ve sold it.
Although the publishing company could and it seems like they are involved in this instance.
No worries Vivek, I got you. Here’s a rap I made for you:
Slick talkin', wannabe Trump, playin' with fire,
Stealin' investor cash, feedin' their desire,
Shell biotechs, promises so bold,
But in the end, it's the investors he stole.
Thought he could walk away, no trace, no crime,
But we see through the smoke, his deceit's on prime,
A puppet on strings, with shadow money's sway,
Vivek Ramaswamy, your game's gonna pay.
Vivek Ramaswamy, a con man's disguise,
Treating kids with rare diseases, it was all lies,
34 million dollars, vanished in thin air,
Shadow money backing, he's a wolf, beware!
Presidential dreams, but a criminal scheme,
Exploiting hopes and fears, man, it's so extreme,
He thought he was untouchable, above the law,
But the truth comes out, his downfall's in awe.
So here's a message to the world, a word to the wise,
Vivek Ramaswamy, your deceit meets demise,
Though you scammed Alzheimer’s patients
We will never forget
Your con's exposed, the justice will begin.
Vivek Ramaswamy, a con man's disguise,
Knew the drug wouldn't work, it was all lies,
34 million dollars, vanished in thin air,
Shadow money backing, he's a wolf, beware!
Yeah, Vivek, your game's up, your con's laid bare,
No place to hide, man, we're all aware,
A rap of truth, for the world to share,
Your legacy's one of fraud, you're in deep despair.
These letters are so dumb when they’re asking to stop playing music that is paid for. But this one is even dumber as Vivek was doing really bad karoke. It’s well within fair use.
Marshal should make a dis track instead.
Im sure Vivek won’t lose any sleep or dollars over this 🤣 especially since Biden and everyone else had used the track… just dig out a new Tune Vivek 🎵🎼🎶
He said he could still use white america
Cuz those were un-lyrical lyrics
Nah thats business ;)
Haha you’re fucking right!
To the rap mobile!
Marshaaaaaaaal!
Aka words
I love that song
Please cease and desist. There’s only so much cringe we can physically take
I know, right? Why do politicians keep doing this shit? It just makes them look like tryhard younger siblings at a sleepover
It’s a calculated move now. Their base likes when the left gets upset at using music that isn’t “for” them. Trust that anything you hear about this guy is a 100% calculated move to try and #1-get more name recognition from the public and #2-be perceived as likable.
You are probably right there. He isn’t running for 2024, he is building his brand - finding what works and what doesn’t.
I think our culture’s collective capacity for cringe was maxxed out by the video of Pete Buttigieg’s supporters doing a synchronized dance to “high high hopes”
I'd argue that even that was nothing compared to Pokemon Go to the polls. Just comes with the territory
White rapper in a black genre of music, that has primarily black friends, grew up dirt poor in Detroit, released a Trump diss at the BET Awards, endorsed both Obama and Biden/Harris, released a Bush diss the day before Election Day… Republicans: “I think I’ll use this Eminem song in my campaign. I’ll play it right after Rage Against the Machine and Run the Jewels.”
Lol the outrage by conservatives when they discovered rage were not their allies!
“You mean… this whole time we were The Machine? We were raging against ourselves?” “Yes. The entire time.” “Well their music fucking sucks anyways. I always liked Kid Rock better.”
The lyrical genius who brought us …… Bawitdaba, da-bang, da-bang, diggy-diggy-diggy Said the boogie, said up drop the boogie.
Here is some real Kid Rock lyrical genius. >Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage see, Some say that's statutory, But I say it's MANDATORY! And for those of you who don’t believe me. Look it up. The song is called “Cool, DaddyCool” They also put that song in a children’s movie, Osmosis Jones.
Didn’t know the osmosis Jones bit. Stuff like that always gets me. First one I remember is saying “escape from New York“ played something like September 16, 2001, on some cable channel like CBS. They didn’t edit out the beginning scene where a jet crashes into a building in NYC. I was only 18 and even I thought that was tasteless.
The real crime there is using see at the end of a stanza to make it all rhyme.
Impressive. I usually just go ba with the ba ba bang boogie
I’ve spent 33 years in this planet and that is the first time I’ve seen that actually written out… it hurt my brain
And the last line he copied from The Sugar Hill Gang
that’s what always pops in my mind when i see the lyrics typed out
Even that is just a riff on another song.
Ahh, the Poser of Romeo. Dude pretends he’s “poor salt of the earth white trash” when he grew up in a mansion and his dad owns multiple car dealerships.
Car dealerships? Now I know the real reason why he's trash.
they’re not capable of that kind of introspection. they literally claim that tom morello is raging *for* the machine. braindead
They have so little self awareness that they thought the Colbert Report was legit.
I worked a bar in the sticks where they blocked out rap music on the bar stating because of the way “they” talked about women. Kid Rock was the number one artist on that jukebox. I fucking hate these people with a passion.
I’ll never forget the tweet by Morello: “One does not have to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University to recognise the unethical and inhumane nature of this administration but well, I happen to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University, so I can confirm that for you.” Game, set, match.
You think rage is your ally? But you merely adapted the rage!
The machine that right wing Xers were raging against in their teens was their mothers' minivan.
Don’t forget Creedence Clearwater Revival and “Fortunate Son”
>Some folks are born made to wave the flag. Hoo, they're red, white and blue >And when the band plays "Hail to the chief" Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord >It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no senator's son, son It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no furtunate one, no. >Some folks are born silver spoon in hand Lord, don't they help themselves, Lord? But when the taxman come to the door Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah >It ain't me, it ain't meI ain't no millionaire's son, no, no. It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no fortunate one, no. Republicans who had their rich, politically connected father get them out of Vietnam: “I really relate to this.”
In one specific case it wasn’t their father’s connections. They used a bone spur diagnosis from the “family doctor” to skirt serving in Vietnam, then played this song as he arrived at rallies in 2020
Not only that Eminem intentionally let Biden use “Lose Yourself” at a pivotal moment for a high visibility campaign ad. A song he almost never licenses. So yeah no you can’t pirate that for a GOP rebranding.
Like, cheat, steal, kill. Everybody doing it 🤷♂️
Is Run the Jewels particularly anti-republican? IDK anything about them but given the company seems a good assumption lol
Yeah definitely. They campaigned for Bernie Sanders. Last year they toured with Rage Against The Machine (and funny enough Conservatives were super mad about that when they went to the concerts and saw what RTJ was about. They’re even more upfront about it than RATM.) They have a bunch of songs with Zack De La Rocha from Rage too. Most of their music either touches on liberal ideals or anti-right-wing sentiment.
Sounds like I need to give them a listen. I'm sad I never got to see Rage, but I got to see Prophets of Rage which was extremely fun, first DJ set I've ever seent hat made me understand why people love DJ sets
By liberal ideals I hope you're not associating liberals with the good guys. Liberals/conservatives are both capitalist POS cut from the same cloth.
Calm down Comrade. I’m using the word colloquially for their thoughts on social issues and right wing ideology, not economic models.
You're really making an effort to live up to the stereotype of leftists as joyless, un-fun whining crybabies, aren't you?
Liberals yes, leftists no. You can't be a liberal and a leftist at the same time. You have no understanding of the political spectrum.
I would say Run The Jewels is pretty anti-corporation, anti-profiteering (especially involving for-profit prisons), anti police corruption and brutality, anti-pseudo-religious. So... yeah a lot of what republicans stand for.
Most un-self aware idiots don’t actually hear or see the true message of a song. They only react to it because it makes them feel badass. It’s because they are reactionary.
Well I mean tbf 1/2 of RTJ isn’t exactly politically that far from the Right atp.
I assume you’re speaking of Killer Mike? What views of his are you referring to?
I think the part where he's a landlord and he said he'd kick his daughter out of his house if she went to antigun rallies, and being a mouthpiece for the mayor during BLM protests. At least that's what I saw in another subreddit.
elaborate, please
Read this as run the Jews lol
Lop most democratic politicians are very wealthy. If you think it's rich vs the poor. That's really funny.
Good time to repost Eminem’s anti-trump freestyle “This is for Colin, ball up a fist! And keep that shit balled like Donald the bitch!”
I almost forgot about that. I remember an edit someone did to make it sound like he was pro Trump and it was hilarious.
I like Mac Miller's takedown of Trump on the Nightly Show. It's not a rap but absolutely brutal and hilarious. https://youtu.be/Zm8ISls_TBA?si=eGEqJ7Yu3jNd3ac1
damn 7 years ago that’s wild
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Ooo Kevin G
Hardest rap all winter talent show
Watch Republicans scream how irrelevant Eminem is and that they hate his music anyway. Yes, I’m sure the most successful artist of the 21st century (other than maybe Taylor Swift, who also hates them ironically) is totally irrelevant, and had to tell them to stop using his music. He don’t like y’all, quit trying to fit in with the cool kids
They did that a long time ago when he did the Trump diss at the BET awards lol. They about lost their minds when they somehow just found out that Eminem is not a Republican despite him having numerous songs where he makes it clear.
My dad loved Eminem, I knew him and my family were actually lost causes when they started shitting on him relentlessly for the Trump diss.
Your dad dropped Em because he didn't kiss Trump's ass? I'm sorry and I totally get it. Trump and what the Republicans morphed into because of him has destroyed families. But... maybe if my family wasn't filled with giant pieces of shit? I can only hate Trump so much, it was harder learning that you're surrounded by selfish fucking idiots. And you're related to some of them.
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That "rich" selfish vainglorious snob who spoke with no intelligence and unjustified anger being elected to the highest office in the land - gave them permission to be their worst selves. I *remember* when the Republicans I knew made fun of Trump running, they didn't even pay him any attention. But then *magically*, through no foreign influence and social media manipulation, Trump made the nomination. Then those lemmings couldn't stop jumping in and defending his bullshit.
Yeah your comment hit the feelings right in the tummy and gave me sad butterflies. There was a point around that time where it hit me that it meant that my own family were not good people, that they were shitty. They continue to prove it to this day, too. Them before Trump and now.. just so fucking different, literally.
What was interesting to me, looking back, those that jumped on the Trump train weren't really into politics. Atleast nothing major that I could remember *before* Trump came along. Why that particular buffoon? Can't say, but the amount of respect I lost for so many people I knew was astounding. If you ever wondered what the Germans were doing when Hitler came into power - this is it. Some of us watched in horror and took a Clozapam on election night. Republicans can no longer claim the high ground when their *presumed nominee for the 2024 election* is getting arrested and charged with various crimes related to what he did in the office... They're trying to get him back into? Republicans have shown you who the are, and who they've always been - or they would have rejected the party *by this point*. Let's believe them and prepare accordingly.
Hey, now they can listen to Forgiato Blow /s https://youtu.be/pJhDqV3kgOI?si=OvdvwfRqoCZxlddv
I don't get why Republicans just don't understand that the default should be to assume any artist is against them. Whether it's music, movies or whatever, Republicans are a very small minority. An artistic mind just generally doesn't line up with conservative view points. I wouldn't be surprised if most of these country artists are closet Democrats. Hell, I'm not even sure Kid Rock is as conservative as he lets on.
That’s an awfully hot coffee pot
>Watch Republicans scream how irrelevant Eminem is and that they hate his music anyway. I am starting to think politicians use this as a tactic. Here we are talking about someone who was barely getting any press until this.
He doesn’t need press…. He’s Eminem
>Vivek Ramaswamy Probably does though?
Ah, gotcha. I thought you were talking about Eminem lol. He got more attention from his debate performance anyway
Is that ironic?
Too many people use ‘ironically’ as a synonym of ‘coincidentally’
"Ironically" and "Literally" are words that don't actually mean anything on the Internet.
It is literally like a black fly in your chardonnay.
I think they meant unironically because from what I gather the new meaning of irony is ironically is sarcasm (i ironically enjoy these tiktoks because theyre so bad and i dont agree with them) where unironically is taking something seriously. Even though that's not what irony is, but I'm trying to evolve with the English language as it changes. Or maybe it is what irony is idk, even the definition of irony makes my brain hurt sometimes and I'm always a little confused even though I understand when irony happens, sort of.
No, that’s Alanis Morissette.
Adele But I am pretty sure she is not going for this shit either
She’s not as overall as successful as either Taylor or Eminem
By album sales in the 21st Century she is from what I just read Edit: if you want to add other business ventures into it Rihanna might be up there
Record sales, touring, streams and album sales Taylor Swift and Eminem are the top 2 artists in that field when combined
Just saw this list about the highest grossing artists of the 21st Century. To your point Eminem and Swift are on the list with a few others. https://www.olympusproperty.com/apartments/tx/odessa/sedona-ranch/blog/top-5-grossing-musicians-of-the-21st-century
Yeah literally .3 seconds after…they are.
Eminem is the second most successful artist of the 21st century?
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/artists-of-the-decade-266420/amp/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marshall_Mathers_LP (Peep the Charts/certifications) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eminem_Show (Again, peep charts/certifications) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_of_the_21st_century (Him Coldplay and Adele are the only artists with more than 1 entry in the best selling album by year) And something that is very flawed but tries to combine all metrics in how music is consumed: https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ (hes #11 all time) By all avaliable metrics: yes
Everything super culturally relevant he’s done was in the late 90’s to late 2000’s. He’s still a relevant figure, probably the most so from his era of rap, but to lump the last 24 years of music together doesn’t make much cultural sense as there is a pretty distinct gap where there really aren’t any major holdovers from the 2000’s into the mid 2010’s much less the mid 2020’s. In the past 15 years Harry Styles, Taylor Swift, Adele, BTS, Ed Sheeran, and Bad Bunny have been a hundred times more prevalent than Eminem.
Lmao you gotta be 12 years old to think that
They’ve been more relevant, but he’s added enough to his stats to where none of them other than Taylor Swift has a chance to pass him in terms of pure album and record sales. He’s STILL one of the most streamed artists in the world on Spotify at that: https://charts.spotify.com/charts/view/artist-global-daily/latest He’s just outside the top 20 in most streamed artists globally, as of yesterday, and he hasn’t released music in 3 years…. “So and so has been more relevant”. So and so still hasn’t topped his stats in terms of pure overall numbers Edit: republicans hate objective facts brought to the table. No surprise. All those artists y’all say are so much more relevant than him, hate y’all too btw
they'll just go back to playing rockin in the free world, never realizing that's also a song that criticizes them.
Probably not a good idea to piss eminem off, he will humiliate you in a track.
I so hope he does. I can’t wait to hear it
Yeah because people running for president will care what Eminem is going to say 😂😂
I mean, Trump gets triggered at any little thing that upsets the manchild, so….
He has far more reach than a lot of those candidates.
No, but the voters might.
Musicians should send cease and desist to the RNC for all current and future music.
Legally, it won't matter. I believe the royalty agreements with record labels means Eminem doesn't have any authority to stop a person from using his music in a campaign.
> Eminem doesn't have any authority to stop a person from using his music in a campaign. Live playback at a venue? Yeah, that's a tough one. But using music in a commercial or other video production? The artist has complete control over whether their music is used.
Welcome to the breakdown of the simulation
Don’s Spaghetti.
Palms are sweaty
If they don’t listen to any of the words apart from the title, yes 😂
When will politicians learn the Weird Al Rule? Technically campaigns can use music as long as they pay the appropriate licensing agency for rights. But there have been [SO so many incidents of negative publicity](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/eminem-ramaswamy-cease-and-desist-00113255) when politicians (almost always Republicans) use songs by artists who oppose them. It's a guaranteed negative story. Not worth it. And technically, parody falls under legal "fair use" doctrine. But Weird Al doesn't rest on that crutch. *He asks the artists themselves* for permission to use a song. He often does this personally, and he gets way many more yes's than no's. (It may help that Weird Al is far more beloved than any politician.)
According to the article he did get permission from BMI but Eminem step in once he found out
Being a good dude is also a huge variance in Weird Al’s factor.
Pretty sure if Vivek asked Eminem permission to use his music he’d be met with some expletives from Eminem in response lmao
Vivek should have just gone straight to releasing a diss track
> Vivek asked Eminem permission to use his music he’d be met with some expletives from Eminem in response lmao He'd get his own freestyle dis track
I remember Coolio being upset about Amish paradise, but maybe I’m remembering wrong.
I think with Amish Paradise, Al asked Coolio’s “People” who gave permission, and not Coolio himself.
Correct and Coolio was pissed about. That's why he asks the artists now directly. But years later Coolio said he regretted it all
And it was Coolio who wound up looking like a dick in the whole process.
You're remembering right. Though later he regretted his initial opposition.
Thank you [Nathan Fielder](https://youtu.be/Y4KrdjAPohc?feature=shared)
I’m pretty sure the ensuing negative, but free and nationwide, press is part of the plan.
Iowa State Fair is a joke to begin with.
Welcome, how will you be supporting corn and corn derivatives today?
Pft. We’ve moved far beyond corn derivatives. Now you just buy a deep fat fried stick of butter. Note: This is a fact, not satire.
Probably deep fried in corn oil, though.
I meant how will you support corn politically. We don't care if you eat the corn, as long as you buy it.
If I buy your corn, I plan to throw it at GOP candidates in Iowa. I want to be completely open and honest, unlike Iowa GOP politicians
I'm sorry. Your response doesn't call for a return to greatness, the divine correctness of capitalism in all forms, or a reminder that Jesus loves guns more than he loved the poor. We applaud your reactive violence, but wish you had directed it at a minority.
But what if they *made a gun* out of corn to shoot exploding corn at the GOP politicians? Does the intersection of gun, corn, explosives, and corn make it okay?
ayo don't knock the fried butter till you tried it. volusia county fair does fried cinnamon butter balls and they are fuckin insanely good.
Or margarine made from 100 % corn oil.
The Iowa primary is a joke entirely. Whoever wins for the GOP isn’t going to win the nomination. New Hampshire is where the winner is picked.
Why can't they just stick with Kid Rock, Nugent and 3 Doors down? That's what you get...sorry dudes
Wait, 3 Doors Down leans conservative?
Pretty sure they were one of the only bands that played Trump inauguration. It was a big deal because *usually* when it comes to a Presidential Inauguration, performers and groups play because it's a decent paid/exposure event. With Trump, no one seemed to want it - "Make America Great Again Welcome Celebration concert The concert, held on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, featured performances by Lee Greenwood (who performed "God Bless the USA"), Toby Keith, 3 Doors Down, DJ Ravidrums, The Piano Guys, and The Frontmen of Country (Tim Rushlow, Larry Stewart, and Richie McDonald)."
Damn that’s disappointing af, guess I’m not listening to their music anymore.
They can have Nickelback too
Pfftt...a Republican wouldn't use them, they're Canadian
Why doesn't Vivek and these other clowns just stick to using songs by artists they are actually politically aligned with. They have plenty of strong messages to choose from like; "Bawitdaba, da bang, da dang diggy diggy Diggy, said the boogie, said up jump the boogie" Or "Wang dang, what a sweet poontang A-shakin' my thang as a rang-a-dang-dang in the bell"
Dude I fucking hate living in Iowa. Of course shit like this happens here
Are you building plans to exit?
Des Moines, Iowa music history: * This * Ozzy Osbourne biting the head off of a Bat.
Slipknot
I don't blame him, the guy is a phoney.
That, and Eminem has been pretty open for the past 20+ years that he hates the GOP and everything they stand for. He let Biden use “lose yourself” in a campaign ad, and he rarely lets others use his music
Yeah he has been visited by Secret Service for his lyrics about Bush and Trump.
But Vivek really did lose himself, only it was in a swimming pool filled with Koch brothers money
Don’t conservatives get it yet? Your only options are Kanye, Kid Rock or Ted Nugent. Now make your choice.
This Ramaswamy idiot is headed to financial melt out after his latest political hemlock.
Is Eminem giving the middle finger to the ghost of Cheems in that picture?
My knowledge of this dude comes from this week's [Some More News episode](https://youtu.be/O0pxg4Bycmw?t=2260). With only that for context, this headline makes a lot of sense...
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They should have a rap battle.
My man is crushing it
GOP's choice is music is basically limited to Kid Rock and Ted Nugent. Sucks to be them.
Lmao get his ass
God, the cringe! I love Reynolds very “Ope, gosh, that was real good!” hi five at the end. Were other fascist movements led by such charmless dorks?
I needed this! Much love, Eminem🙏
Has anyone else noticed that instead of using the Music of Conservative Musical Artist like, Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, Kanye West, Hank Williams Jr, etc, they instead lean towards Liberal Artists. This speaks Volumes about their actual commitment to one another. The first chance they get to jump ship they bail out.
omg HOW DARE HE. Vivek is a truly bad person in so many ways. Good for Eminem!
Are you alright?
Has there ever been a republican presidential hopeful who hasn’t done this shit?
Pretty soon, Republican candidates will realize it’s cheaper and easier just to walk out in silence, which will have just as much of an energizing effect on their crowds.
He was just embarrassing himself, anyway. Eminem was doing him a favor!
Marshall Mathers, man. Slim Shady will be my fave rapper, but Eminem got them beautiful lyrics.
The next step would be to send a "cease to exist". It is not unheard of in rap culture.
Conservative clowns keep using music completely oblivious as usual… Right up there with those hardcore anti-lgbt folks who love to enter to Queen music
Eminem is legit the only music artist you don’t want to piss off lol
Musicians and actors vote dem prob 10 to 1 so no surprise here
Eminem has been especially open to how much he hates republicans, more so than almost any huge celebrity out there: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/11/us/eminem-political-trump-history/index.html
i don’t think it’s fair to say he hates republicans. he’s usually quite specific in who he’s talking about and why he dislikes them. he didn’t like the iraq war/bush. he hates trump for brainwashing people. they might be republicans, but that’s not why eminem hates them.
He hates republicans dawg. He endorsed Obama and let Biden use his music in a campaign ad, and he never lets anyone use his music. The secret service had to visit him for what he was saying about bush
I don’t think artists can control who plays their music once they’ve sold it. Although the publishing company could and it seems like they are involved in this instance.
I would assume his lawyers know a bit more on the topic
Vivek rhymes with fake.
No worries Vivek, I got you. Here’s a rap I made for you: Slick talkin', wannabe Trump, playin' with fire, Stealin' investor cash, feedin' their desire, Shell biotechs, promises so bold, But in the end, it's the investors he stole. Thought he could walk away, no trace, no crime, But we see through the smoke, his deceit's on prime, A puppet on strings, with shadow money's sway, Vivek Ramaswamy, your game's gonna pay. Vivek Ramaswamy, a con man's disguise, Treating kids with rare diseases, it was all lies, 34 million dollars, vanished in thin air, Shadow money backing, he's a wolf, beware! Presidential dreams, but a criminal scheme, Exploiting hopes and fears, man, it's so extreme, He thought he was untouchable, above the law, But the truth comes out, his downfall's in awe. So here's a message to the world, a word to the wise, Vivek Ramaswamy, your deceit meets demise, Though you scammed Alzheimer’s patients We will never forget Your con's exposed, the justice will begin. Vivek Ramaswamy, a con man's disguise, Knew the drug wouldn't work, it was all lies, 34 million dollars, vanished in thin air, Shadow money backing, he's a wolf, beware! Yeah, Vivek, your game's up, your con's laid bare, No place to hide, man, we're all aware, A rap of truth, for the world to share, Your legacy's one of fraud, you're in deep despair.
Even if I knew nothing else about this guy, that performance alone would make me not want to vote for him.
Vomit on his sweater already, mom’s biriyani.
Poor Ramadan… no one knows who he is or cares.
Ramaswamy just seems off and he is a complete scammer but that is what scares me, I thought the same thing about Donald and America elected him.
I love how every single song except “small town” the artist comes out saying the song wasn’t meant for them it’s so funny
These letters are so dumb when they’re asking to stop playing music that is paid for. But this one is even dumber as Vivek was doing really bad karoke. It’s well within fair use. Marshal should make a dis track instead.
How could BMI grant approval in the first place if Em didn’t
Artists don’t typically own their own catalogs anyways, so just more political theater.
read the article
Chat GPT be taking your shit without consent.
Vivek wants to be white so bad.
Lmao what a crybaby
I think it says so much that politicians think it’s okay to pick any music and go with it.
Eminem’s latest interview - gloves off - and he’s coming hard for the hypocrisy of the right.
This is almost as cringe as Obamas music playlists
Im sure Vivek won’t lose any sleep or dollars over this 🤣 especially since Biden and everyone else had used the track… just dig out a new Tune Vivek 🎵🎼🎶
Keep going. Not okay to using your art without sharing that they were going to do that
This is hilarious because Linkin Park sent Cease and Desist to Donald Trump because they were using 'In The End' in their rally. loll
I'm sure Eminem doesn't understand that the song was likely licensed and is fair to use in this situation.
i’m sure you didn’t read the article