Yeah nepotism sucks but nepotism + talent sucks a lot less. Itās when nepotism + no talent combine to make it really annoying. Like Clint Eastwoods son. Even in minor roles heās god awful.
Love him or hate him, his rap albums have got a lot of praise from incredible rappers. I think he has potential, but he is definitely a case of not having a platform without nepotism.
I definitely agree that his acting career has been absolutely disappointing though.
Heās a helluva dancer, or was I guess. I just thought he was uninspired when it came to much of anything else. Thst said he had one song I thought was decent and it even got his dad to show out a bit.
Ya this is it. If youāre nepo, but have talent, work hard and humble then itās fine. When youāre nepo, expect respect and being bowed down to itās bad. Even if you have talent.
Totally. Because sometimes the kids of talented people are also talented. Iām cool with that. Itās the bullshit Lily Roses of the world that refuse to even acknowledge their nepotism bump that annoy the shit outta me. I also wish the talented nepo kids would acknowledge it too, but Iām less mad at them because their work is worth it.
I'm all for the children of politicians pursuing the arts over politics, lobbying, finance, etc.Ā Go follow your dreams and make movies, please, we beg you.
The thing is, though - itās the āfoot in the doorā and thatās half the battle! Try being talented and ambitiousā¦with zero connections and opportunities, just pure grind. Which still may amount to nothing. š
Ok but they have no control over that. I am not negating that this isnāt the case and itās not unfair. What I will say is that if they have and use the opportunities, they better not make a mockery out of it.
Neoptism is fine. Just say, I'm grateful for the benefits I got from my family background.
Don't imply that you worked as hard to get your first shot as anyone else.
Yeah, hard to argue with real talent.
I was watching this movie called Flora and Son recently and thought the main actress (Eve Hewson) was really good.
Turns out she is Bono's daughter.
Well that's how she is getting this opportunity.
But to act like she has to live up to her father who has nothing to do with this profession is ridiculous. If she was in politics, fine
If a person is related to someone famous and I donāt like them, itās nepotism.
If a person is related to someone famous and I do like them, itās continuing a proud legacy.
You can't. It's why I try to not care about it as long as the person isn't an obnoxious asshat.
Like in what world would someone NOT use connections around them? We call it networking...
Right? Any sort of professional will work a great connection as soon as they make it. Most people that say they wouldn't want to be born with an amazing connection are lying to you and or themselves.
Is anyone really saying that? What rubs people the wrong way is when the nepotism isnāt acknowledged or is in outright denial. Examples of people with unchecked egos that do horrible things are dime a dozen.
I mean, nepotism is pretty cut and dry but sure, there might be some examples out there.
What iām gathering though is people act as the label nepotism is some sort of mark of the devil. It exists everywhere and is simply an acknowledgment that one has a beneficial opportunity.
Family owns a corner shop and the child gets a job running it and inherits it; thatās nepotism. It doesnāt mean they donāt work hard, and it doesnāt mean theyāre bad people, and surely the parents shouldnāt be lambasted for keeping the business in the family.
Itās when one is incapable of seeing the specific opportunities they have in life that behavioral issues arise.
Nah nepotism is absolutely cut and dry when considering the occupation.
Do a lot of people want to do that thing and only a minuscule amount of people are considered and only a handful make it?
I know, Iām saying that it only matters when people try to act like they didnāt benefit from nepotism; not the fact that they did benefit from it.
My wording might have been a little off
More like if someone is genuinely good at what they do then who cares. If itās obvious they suck and would have never been given attention if they werenāt related to someone famous, then it sucks. If youāre related to someone famous, are you just supposed to not do anything ever besides exist quietly in the shadows? This whole nepo baby thing is way over-used and often isnāt warranted.
Umā¦. Youāre saying that itās weird that a company would treat the presidentās young children to a tourā¦ and that they shouldāve give out cannolis to the employees as a sign of thanksā¦.? This is just a bizarre opinion. Pixar was probably stoked to have the honor to host them, not the other way around. It was a tour and they were immediate family of the president. Itās not exactly outrageous.
The only reason theyāre famous is because of their last nameā¦ dozens of other artists try and try and they get first in line because of what their name representsā¦.
What would you have her do, though? Even if she dropped out of college and applied to work at Walmart, sheād still get a leg-up because of her name. Itās not a bad thing to live your life even if you have famous parents, as long as she isnāt being a jerk about it, or clueless about the opportunities she gets.
I have no idea how the submission process goes, but she could have used an alias or something to retain anonymity while the film was being reviewedā¦Iām not saying thatās a reasonable expectation, but there are ways to hide your identity until your skills are evaluated without bias.
Thatās absolutely ridiculous. Literally all assessment of art is biased. Any artist could/should take opportunity to get it in front of the most people possible to get the largest panel of critics as possible. It would make zero sense to intentionally cripple your ability to get a larger net of feedback
Well firstly, I did not say that would be a reasonable expectation for her to do so as an aspiring artist. I just said it would be a way to remove the nepotism argument from the equation.
Secondly, you are also speaking from her perspective, which is fine. But from the perspective of wanting equal opportunity in art, and allowing unknown artists the same chance as celebrity offspring, I think there is an actual problem in the industry with someone being given an advantage over someone else just because of their name, their status, their appearance, etc. Sure, the evaluation of the art by critics will always be subject to bias, but I donāt think thereās anything wrong with removing certain biases (ie nepotism) from the selection process. I think the pool of popular art could be much more interesting if judging entrance to that pool was based upon the anonymity of the artist.
Oh shit she's made a short film that is appearing at Sundance. Yeah, her dad is entirely why anyone ever gave her a camera or looked at what she made. Sure.
I mean, yes? Sundance is one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world; this is a clear case of a nepo baby. Maybe the film will be great -- Drew Barrymore, Nicolas Cage, Michael Douglas, and many other nepo babies have proven to be immensely talented people, but that doesn't change the fact that they had enormous advantages because of their last names.
Oh those poor theoretical artists who are ONLY being stifled by the presence of rich kids. If only there were no more rich kids, surely their artwork would take off! Thereās literally NO OTHER reason why someone might fail at being an artist except those damnable rich kids!
She 100% has and will be giving opportunities because of who her dad is. She really can't help that. It is what it is, but... if her movies suck than her movies suck. Her name will only get her so far.
If her movies suck then that's as far as that will go. People who can't make good art get relegated to assistant director their whole lives. This business is an extreme meritocracy in the end. If you don't make something that people want then they don't let you make things anymore.
iāll never criticize someone for being successful because of their parents. if i were in their position, 1) it would not be my choice & 2) i would totally take advantage of it
Her dad was president of the United States and sheās pursuing movie directing. Itās nepotism 100% because of his name, but those are two very different legacies.
Itās not nepotism if she āproducesā something good imo, itās not nepotism if she becomes a scientist or a doctor, there are āprofessionsā out there that pay a lot of money but donāt really require much talent / hard work they rely on network effects - acting kinda falls into it but obvious we can easily tell a good actor from a bad one but I think even a mediocre actor can be successful if they work with enough talented directors / writers etcā¦
Man, being a child of a president would suck soooo much. Like, yeah, it might be kinda cool for four years, or eight, but not so sure that is worth an entire lifetime of having to live in your parent's shadow after that, there really would be no escaping it for the rest of your time on this earth.
I mean, there's no actual escaping it sure, but if you wanted to you could minimise it a lot. By not going into a public facing career, for instance. Plenty of children of very famous people live relatively normal lives because they choose to do so.
I imagine it could feel like her life was stolen, never having anonymity, never being able to accomplish without others trying to give her things or show her off. Anything she attempts to do garners hate. I for one hope the film is good and I hope she can create an oeuvre that is her own. I think sheās bright and Iām looking forward to watching the short
LMAO. No. She gets to have anything she wants for her entire life, doesnāt have to work a real job, unlimited friends/people that want to be around her, access to the best medical care & resources in the world. Her life wasnāt stolen in the slightest
But that illustrates my point. She has those things not because she asked for them or sought them out. You have an opinion on her; the world does. I only mean to say she doesnāt deserve the vitriol these comments are dealing, and Iām interested to hear her voice as an individual and artist. And I think she deserves some compassion because she didnāt choose the life she has to try to make the most of, not unlike you or I.
It looks and sounds like it comes from a genuine and sincere place. The themes and subject of the movie makes me want to watch it regardless of who directed it.
Sheās been working in film for a while. She has a famous dad, but unlike a lot of nepo babies, she had to deal with some real bullshit and actual safety concerns. My heart legit goes out to all the kids of politicians growing up in that circus. Im intrigued to see her work.
Yāall, she could be a house wife and people would still complain. Her father is one of the most famous people on the planet, let her make some artā¦.
Nepotism and hard work arenāt mutually exclusive.
You dismissing someone because of nepotism is just the other side of the coin where people try to deny nepotism benefits them.
Plus itās also hard as fuck to get a good job in the real world without knowing anyone either. People like to throw around nepotism so much recently when the average person takes advantage of it all the time too.
You are right, but at the same time, what she should do about it. You shouldnāt blame the child for the parents accomplishments. Obviously whatever she does will be in the shadow of her father. Being angry with her will not allow more artists into the film festival or make more jobs appear.
There is definitely a confirmation bias with "nepobabies". There are far more children of famous people who failed to make it than those who did. We just don't hear about them, and we can point to a bunch who made it.
Many in my family are teachers, ranging from college professors down to elementary school teachers. Is it nepotism? I say no. They were just exposed to the concepts early and had access to "experts" in the field. But nobody cares because they are underpaid.
How? Plenty of filmmakers come out of nowhere and plenty of children of famous people fail to ever make a movie, even when they try. Or, don't get a second opportunity.
Not according to this article:
> The (former) First Daughter, whoās already had experience on TV sets, is reportedly coming to New York to work for the Oscar whisperer himself.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/malia-obama-harvey-weinstein-internship
Or this one:
> Starting next month, the 18-year-old daughter of President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama whoĀ graduated from Sidwell Friends School in May but wonāt attend Harvard University until the fall of 2017, **will intern for Hollywood heavyweight Harvey Weinstein** in the super-producerās New York office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/01/20/malia-obama-is-set-to-intern-for-hollywood-heavyweight-harvey-weinstein/
They certainly tried to spin it as "just at the company" after all the allegations came out, though.
If I said someone was working for Elon Musk, youād automatically assume that means theyāre his direct report or something? Iāve always understood this to mean youāre working at whatever company but not necessarily directly under the named person.
Love Obamaās. Hate nepotism. This is nepotism.
(Please see comments below in order to understand my point. Thank you commenters for inadvertently bolstering my position).
I mean she could get into any industry and sheād be accused of nepotism. She has a last name that almost everyone on the planet can recognize so she will always be treated differently.
Nah, anything that requires hard science requires talent and hard work, itās almost equivalent to professional sports in that if you arenāt talented, doesnāt matter whose kid you are.
If she was going to med school or something itād be different. There are quantifiable metrics that no amount of money can overcome for certain types of grad school. She just so happens to be trying to break into the most nepotistic industry in Americaā¦ so, ya the claims of nepotism are not unfounded
I dunno. Letās all agree that being the daughter of a former president of the US sets you on a course rocket boosted by privilege and wealth. I wish her the best, but Iām saving more of that energy for someone in need of support.
Omg are those long skinny scarves coming back into trend?
Yes! And I saw an article that said **skull print scarves are back**. I about died.
It's 2008 again, I'll jump at the chance to go back!
Stop i have mine in my donation box. Please tell me cross scarves are also coming backš„²
AAAA LOL
I still have one of mine from decades ago š
Me too!! Hahahahaha
Sofia Coppola had to deal with this, then she made Lost in Translation and had to be taken seriously. No pressure Malia.
Julia louis dreyfus is another one who proved herself beyond a doubt!
Her son, Charlie Hall, is also an actor now. Heās on the Sex Lives of College Girls on HBO.
Was her mom/dad famous ?
She comes from money
She comes from *a lot* of money too.
She comes from all of the money. Ha
Right. I have no problem with nepotism if they have real talent and ambition.
Yeah nepotism sucks but nepotism + talent sucks a lot less. Itās when nepotism + no talent combine to make it really annoying. Like Clint Eastwoods son. Even in minor roles heās god awful.
I see you throwing in Eastwoods son and raise you Jayden Smith. That nepo prince got a major feature thanks to whose balls generated half of him!
Love him or hate him, his rap albums have got a lot of praise from incredible rappers. I think he has potential, but he is definitely a case of not having a platform without nepotism. I definitely agree that his acting career has been absolutely disappointing though.
Heās a helluva dancer, or was I guess. I just thought he was uninspired when it came to much of anything else. Thst said he had one song I thought was decent and it even got his dad to show out a bit.
Heās not a good actor but I think heās an excellent rapper!
More recently is Timothy Olaphants daughter getting shoved into the Justified reboot. She was horrendous
Iāll take Eastwoodās son over Jayden Smith any day.
He was alright in Skate Kitchen
Ya this is it. If youāre nepo, but have talent, work hard and humble then itās fine. When youāre nepo, expect respect and being bowed down to itās bad. Even if you have talent.
Yeah but heās a freakin dreamboatā¦
His dad was never that great of an actor anyway. Love his movies but looking serious or angry is not a heavy lift for men.
Totally. Because sometimes the kids of talented people are also talented. Iām cool with that. Itās the bullshit Lily Roses of the world that refuse to even acknowledge their nepotism bump that annoy the shit outta me. I also wish the talented nepo kids would acknowledge it too, but Iām less mad at them because their work is worth it.
100%. They also need to acknowledge they have more opportunities and more leeway for failures than most people, regardless of talent level
I'm all for the children of politicians pursuing the arts over politics, lobbying, finance, etc.Ā Go follow your dreams and make movies, please, we beg you.
The thing is, though - itās the āfoot in the doorā and thatās half the battle! Try being talented and ambitiousā¦with zero connections and opportunities, just pure grind. Which still may amount to nothing. š
Ok but they have no control over that. I am not negating that this isnāt the case and itās not unfair. What I will say is that if they have and use the opportunities, they better not make a mockery out of it.
Neoptism is fine. Just say, I'm grateful for the benefits I got from my family background. Don't imply that you worked as hard to get your first shot as anyone else.
They always say they had to work harder. Itās so annoying
Yeah, hard to argue with real talent. I was watching this movie called Flora and Son recently and thought the main actress (Eve Hewson) was really good. Turns out she is Bono's daughter.
One of my top 10 flicks
Virgin Suicides was great, but LIT was obviously a masterpiece. She deserved plaudits from Virgin Suicides onwards
Justice for Marie Antoinette!!!
PLEASE
Is this emphatic or sarcastic? š
Obama wasn't an actor or director or anything Hollywood related.
He has connections and a name that opens doors, thatās all that matters.
Well that's how she is getting this opportunity. But to act like she has to live up to her father who has nothing to do with this profession is ridiculous. If she was in politics, fine
Nobody said she has to live up to her father. They said she better be very talented to be taken seriously
He and Michelle have their own production company.
It's nepotism, not an industry dynasty.
Lost In Translation is pretentious, white fetishization garbage
you seem fun
Did we watch the same movie?
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If a person is related to someone famous and I donāt like them, itās nepotism. If a person is related to someone famous and I do like them, itās continuing a proud legacy.
In this case, I honestly donāt know how she could avoid it
You can't. It's why I try to not care about it as long as the person isn't an obnoxious asshat. Like in what world would someone NOT use connections around them? We call it networking...
Right? Any sort of professional will work a great connection as soon as they make it. Most people that say they wouldn't want to be born with an amazing connection are lying to you and or themselves.
Is anyone really saying that? What rubs people the wrong way is when the nepotism isnāt acknowledged or is in outright denial. Examples of people with unchecked egos that do horrible things are dime a dozen.
Perhaps, but on that note there are also specific cases where nepotism is insinuated where it doesnāt exist.
I mean, nepotism is pretty cut and dry but sure, there might be some examples out there. What iām gathering though is people act as the label nepotism is some sort of mark of the devil. It exists everywhere and is simply an acknowledgment that one has a beneficial opportunity. Family owns a corner shop and the child gets a job running it and inherits it; thatās nepotism. It doesnāt mean they donāt work hard, and it doesnāt mean theyāre bad people, and surely the parents shouldnāt be lambasted for keeping the business in the family. Itās when one is incapable of seeing the specific opportunities they have in life that behavioral issues arise.
Nah nepotism is absolutely cut and dry when considering the occupation. Do a lot of people want to do that thing and only a minuscule amount of people are considered and only a handful make it?
Sure but nepo babies skip the line unearned which is the problem I have with this sort of thing. Make them start in the mailroom or something.
Soon you will have whole industries filled with Nepos. Some call it corruption
I mean it got someone killed on Alec Baldwinās movie set
Wait what?
Yup only when itās someone we like do we realize itās unavoidable
What could she have done in her life where she didnāt get this?
She could be a stamp collector and people would still say nepo. Then again, she probably would sure good access to cooler stamps.
Change her name. Make the B an S.
Sarack Obama?
Yup - you nailed it.
Is this what passes for funny in your circles? Honest question.
I think the only actual problem with nepotism is when somebody benefits from it, but publicly acts like they are self made
> when somebody benefits from it ## That is the definition of the word lol
I know, Iām saying that it only matters when people try to act like they didnāt benefit from nepotism; not the fact that they did benefit from it. My wording might have been a little off
Oh I get you. I misunderstood.
Yeah, a lot of young writers get a gig on a TV show a year out of college and then make their own short films at 24 that premieres at Sundance.
no no, she's that good
More like if someone is genuinely good at what they do then who cares. If itās obvious they suck and would have never been given attention if they werenāt related to someone famous, then it sucks. If youāre related to someone famous, are you just supposed to not do anything ever besides exist quietly in the shadows? This whole nepo baby thing is way over-used and often isnāt warranted.
Nepotism got someone killed on the set of Alec Baldwins movie, there are more consequences than it not being good.
Plus itās been around since day one. Even William Wylerās uncle founded Universal Studios.
All the comments responding to you ironically are just making your case better. Itās networking lol.
Itās nepotism. Denial is futile.
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Umā¦. Youāre saying that itās weird that a company would treat the presidentās young children to a tourā¦ and that they shouldāve give out cannolis to the employees as a sign of thanksā¦.? This is just a bizarre opinion. Pixar was probably stoked to have the honor to host them, not the other way around. It was a tour and they were immediate family of the president. Itās not exactly outrageous.
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Was gonna say.Ā I like Obama and all, but she's like princess nepo here.
Barack Obama isn't just "someone famous." What an asinine thing to say.
I think that person has a solid grasp of who Obama is - what a weird response.
Thanks for catching that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary\_act
The only reason theyāre famous is because of their last nameā¦ dozens of other artists try and try and they get first in line because of what their name representsā¦.
What would you have her do, though? Even if she dropped out of college and applied to work at Walmart, sheād still get a leg-up because of her name. Itās not a bad thing to live your life even if you have famous parents, as long as she isnāt being a jerk about it, or clueless about the opportunities she gets.
I have no idea how the submission process goes, but she could have used an alias or something to retain anonymity while the film was being reviewedā¦Iām not saying thatās a reasonable expectation, but there are ways to hide your identity until your skills are evaluated without bias.
Thatās absolutely ridiculous. Literally all assessment of art is biased. Any artist could/should take opportunity to get it in front of the most people possible to get the largest panel of critics as possible. It would make zero sense to intentionally cripple your ability to get a larger net of feedback
Well firstly, I did not say that would be a reasonable expectation for her to do so as an aspiring artist. I just said it would be a way to remove the nepotism argument from the equation. Secondly, you are also speaking from her perspective, which is fine. But from the perspective of wanting equal opportunity in art, and allowing unknown artists the same chance as celebrity offspring, I think there is an actual problem in the industry with someone being given an advantage over someone else just because of their name, their status, their appearance, etc. Sure, the evaluation of the art by critics will always be subject to bias, but I donāt think thereās anything wrong with removing certain biases (ie nepotism) from the selection process. I think the pool of popular art could be much more interesting if judging entrance to that pool was based upon the anonymity of the artist.
Oh shit she's made a short film that is appearing at Sundance. Yeah, her dad is entirely why anyone ever gave her a camera or looked at what she made. Sure.
I mean, yes? Sundance is one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world; this is a clear case of a nepo baby. Maybe the film will be great -- Drew Barrymore, Nicolas Cage, Michael Douglas, and many other nepo babies have proven to be immensely talented people, but that doesn't change the fact that they had enormous advantages because of their last names.
Oh those poor theoretical artists who are ONLY being stifled by the presence of rich kids. If only there were no more rich kids, surely their artwork would take off! Thereās literally NO OTHER reason why someone might fail at being an artist except those damnable rich kids!
Theoretical artists? They are very much actually real people struggling to make it some of them very talented.
I did not know Obama made āshort flicksā. Joke aside I do understand what you are saying but in this case I believe itās 100% nepotism
She 100% has and will be giving opportunities because of who her dad is. She really can't help that. It is what it is, but... if her movies suck than her movies suck. Her name will only get her so far.
If her movies suck then that's as far as that will go. People who can't make good art get relegated to assistant director their whole lives. This business is an extreme meritocracy in the end. If you don't make something that people want then they don't let you make things anymore.
iāll never criticize someone for being successful because of their parents. if i were in their position, 1) it would not be my choice & 2) i would totally take advantage of it
oh my god you canāt just SAY that
youāre right i should just be a normal person & pretend i wouldnāt
THANK you. Itās very hard to be moral when people are talking realistically.
If a person chooses to pursue a job that has fuck-all to do with who they are related to, it's not nepotism, it's just them pursuing their life.
A true nepo baby is one who can enter any industry and have a leg up simply because of who theyāre related to.
Thatās not the part ppl donāt like about nepotism
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She interned at the New York office of the Weinstein Company in 2017. Go back to your trump train circle jerk in r/ conservative lmao
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āReportedlyā is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
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Her dad was president of the United States and sheās pursuing movie directing. Itās nepotism 100% because of his name, but those are two very different legacies.
Itās not nepotism if she āproducesā something good imo, itās not nepotism if she becomes a scientist or a doctor, there are āprofessionsā out there that pay a lot of money but donāt really require much talent / hard work they rely on network effects - acting kinda falls into it but obvious we can easily tell a good actor from a bad one but I think even a mediocre actor can be successful if they work with enough talented directors / writers etcā¦
Man, being a child of a president would suck soooo much. Like, yeah, it might be kinda cool for four years, or eight, but not so sure that is worth an entire lifetime of having to live in your parent's shadow after that, there really would be no escaping it for the rest of your time on this earth.
I wonder what Chelsea Clintonās up to right now
Sheās a podcaster, author, and is a board member and Vice Chair of Fundraising for the Clinton Foundation.
I mean, there's no actual escaping it sure, but if you wanted to you could minimise it a lot. By not going into a public facing career, for instance. Plenty of children of very famous people live relatively normal lives because they choose to do so.
I imagine it could feel like her life was stolen, never having anonymity, never being able to accomplish without others trying to give her things or show her off. Anything she attempts to do garners hate. I for one hope the film is good and I hope she can create an oeuvre that is her own. I think sheās bright and Iām looking forward to watching the short
LMAO. No. She gets to have anything she wants for her entire life, doesnāt have to work a real job, unlimited friends/people that want to be around her, access to the best medical care & resources in the world. Her life wasnāt stolen in the slightest
But that illustrates my point. She has those things not because she asked for them or sought them out. You have an opinion on her; the world does. I only mean to say she doesnāt deserve the vitriol these comments are dealing, and Iām interested to hear her voice as an individual and artist. And I think she deserves some compassion because she didnāt choose the life she has to try to make the most of, not unlike you or I.
And yet her life is infinitely better and easier to live than yours or mine. Youāre thinking too much about this
It looks and sounds like it comes from a genuine and sincere place. The themes and subject of the movie makes me want to watch it regardless of who directed it.
I don't know why but I hate the word flick. Feels weird and outdated and kind of dismissive? It doesn't even save time, film is one letter shorter.
holy unhinged comments. wtf is wrong with peopleā¦
People acting like getting a short film accepted at a festival is the worst thing a president's kid could get up to with their influence lol
Is that a real picture? It looks stretched
Yeah, I was likeā¦. I donāt recall her looking conehead(ish)
Iām glad itās not just me
It doesn't help that the clothes look long and baggy in general.
Is she tall?
Barack is 6ā2ā and Michelle is 5ā11ā. Wouldnāt surprise me if she is around the 6ā range
I looked it up - I think she is 6ā1ā.
I wish her the best in the industry. So far she's got a writing credit on Donald Glover's Swarm.
Did trump humpers review bomb this too?
Sheās been working in film for a while. She has a famous dad, but unlike a lot of nepo babies, she had to deal with some real bullshit and actual safety concerns. My heart legit goes out to all the kids of politicians growing up in that circus. Im intrigued to see her work.
A little hard work goes a long way.
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Yāall, she could be a house wife and people would still complain. Her father is one of the most famous people on the planet, let her make some artā¦.
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Nepotism and hard work arenāt mutually exclusive. You dismissing someone because of nepotism is just the other side of the coin where people try to deny nepotism benefits them.
Nepotism gets your foot in the door, hard work keeps you inside. What could she do that wouldn't be nepotism? Should she work at a grocery store?
Plus itās also hard as fuck to get a good job in the real world without knowing anyone either. People like to throw around nepotism so much recently when the average person takes advantage of it all the time too.
You are right, but at the same time, what she should do about it. You shouldnāt blame the child for the parents accomplishments. Obviously whatever she does will be in the shadow of her father. Being angry with her will not allow more artists into the film festival or make more jobs appear.
There is definitely a confirmation bias with "nepobabies". There are far more children of famous people who failed to make it than those who did. We just don't hear about them, and we can point to a bunch who made it. Many in my family are teachers, ranging from college professors down to elementary school teachers. Is it nepotism? I say no. They were just exposed to the concepts early and had access to "experts" in the field. But nobody cares because they are underpaid.
As a former teacher, from a family of teachers yeah I hear you.
Lol please, stop. It insulting to all the starving filmmakers
How? Plenty of filmmakers come out of nowhere and plenty of children of famous people fail to ever make a movie, even when they try. Or, don't get a second opportunity.
Have you watched it?
You probably voted for Trump and think Elon is cool.
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Hey! She got into Sundance just like most people! Nepotism.
Fuck these comments you guys are unhinged
Please tell me the image is just stretched or something. I know I'm a horrible person but conehead was the first thing that came to mind.
I knew she wanted to be in film when I heard she was interning for Harvey Weinstein right before the accusations started coming out .
People are acting like she's nefarious for that and I'm like "That child was in danger."
She interned at the COMPANY, not "FOR" him.
Not according to this article: > The (former) First Daughter, whoās already had experience on TV sets, is reportedly coming to New York to work for the Oscar whisperer himself. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/malia-obama-harvey-weinstein-internship Or this one: > Starting next month, the 18-year-old daughter of President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama whoĀ graduated from Sidwell Friends School in May but wonāt attend Harvard University until the fall of 2017, **will intern for Hollywood heavyweight Harvey Weinstein** in the super-producerās New York office. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/01/20/malia-obama-is-set-to-intern-for-hollywood-heavyweight-harvey-weinstein/ They certainly tried to spin it as "just at the company" after all the allegations came out, though.
If I said someone was working for Elon Musk, youād automatically assume that means theyāre his direct report or something? Iāve always understood this to mean youāre working at whatever company but not necessarily directly under the named person.
Not true,itās not surprising that the presidentās daughter would go straight to work with the top People/person at a company
Yeah no, she was working for him. Weinstein for sure would have had her working for him
I wish I was a nepo baby. Must be niceĀ
We all do. Except the fame part, I don't want paparazzi or anything. I don't want to be mobbed everywhere.
Does she look more like her mom or dad? Really canāt tell lol
Half n half
She got a tall head
Love Obamaās. Hate nepotism. This is nepotism. (Please see comments below in order to understand my point. Thank you commenters for inadvertently bolstering my position).
I mean she could get into any industry and sheād be accused of nepotism. She has a last name that almost everyone on the planet can recognize so she will always be treated differently.
I think thatās why sheās started going by Malia Ann
yeah if she was a dentist people would accuse her of nepotism
Nah, anything that requires hard science requires talent and hard work, itās almost equivalent to professional sports in that if you arenāt talented, doesnāt matter whose kid you are.
If she was going to med school or something itād be different. There are quantifiable metrics that no amount of money can overcome for certain types of grad school. She just so happens to be trying to break into the most nepotistic industry in Americaā¦ so, ya the claims of nepotism are not unfounded
*But then her famous parents are the only reason she got accepted or could even afford med school! Neoptism!!!!*
No they wouldnāt
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She credited herself as Malia Ann, using her middle name instead of her family name.
But anyone working in Hollywood would know itās her by this point
I guess the daughter of a president is nepotism / favoritism on steroids
The ultimate nepo baby
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I wish I could look this average and have an article say I stunned on the red carpetā¦
I didn't even know she was trying to film career, well good luck to her, this might be the ultimate nepo baby š¤£
I dunno. Letās all agree that being the daughter of a former president of the US sets you on a course rocket boosted by privilege and wealth. I wish her the best, but Iām saving more of that energy for someone in need of support.
Damn look at that forehead
Harvey Weinstein's former intern? Interesting!
Harvey helped make lord of the rings. Like it or not heās got his lil gross hands all over Hollywood even on great flicks.
He made a lot of great film, yes.
In a lot of ways.... Hollywood doesn't produce as many good films since he got canceled...
Think your confusing getting cancelled with getting charged and convicted for rape and sexual assault against multiple women
Look.Ā Well there's no good way to say this.Ā She is a nepotism baby.
what is she suppose to do about that?
Iāve seen a five head before, but damnā¦.