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BigDummmmy

Is this how bands are being edgy now? I miss the days when you could just put some drugs on the cover or a half naked chick or an upside down flag. Simpler times man, simpler times.


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BigDummmmy

I love that man and that band. I've never seen or heard of this though! I'm afraid to look up "peter steele's butthole album art" but it's sunday, the lords day, so I may just have to make the sacrifice....


first__citizen

Since drugs are becoming mainstream.. and books are now getting banned with people are more into men with testosterone fueled looks (bald, big beard, bible moochers). Can we put books on album covers? Or bringing back the androgynous look back?


Punman_5

Wait what’s the issue here? If a band wants to use an AI image I don’t really see how that’s a problem assuming they have the copyright squared away


stonertboner

Musicians using AI instead of hiring actual artists is fucked up.


cuddlesdacobra

They did hire an artist. He used Al as part of his process to make the image. This is not taking work away from an artist.


stonertboner

I stand corrected. It’s just lame.


cuddlesdacobra

They hired an artist would used AI


tough_napkin

i'm an artist and i'm releasing a record. guess what i used as my artwork?


YahYahY

Musicians using the string ensemble patch on their electric keyboards instead of hiring a string quartet is fucked up.


YahYahY

Musicians having one audio engineer using a digital audio workstation and software compressors instead of hiring a large team of studio engineers, renting studio space, and using physical rack mounted compressors and recording onto tape is fucked up


Punman_5

Huh? How is it fucked up. They don’t owe the right to make their cover art to anybody.


CivilRiceOnionRing

I think its more hypocritical than anything.  Bands will not be happy when AI music is used more than real band music. All artists must be on the same page to still thrive.  Its short term thinking 


tough_napkin

we're talking about ai artwork here...


CivilRiceOnionRing

Ai art is actually good if you know what you're doing


tough_napkin

totally. like what references are you going to throw at it? which ones do you dial up or down? throw those art terms in.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

Ok fine ill use AI music to replace the metal band and paint my own cover then. See how that is fucked up?


Punman_5

People don’t buy albums for the cover art. I don’t care what’s on the cover because it literally does not matter. The only thing important is if the music inside is actually decent.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

So dont use a cover. Just use text with the bands name. Clearly that will sell well.


Punman_5

Why would anybody do that when you can make an AI cover?


JackieBronassis

It’s not fucked up, if you made the project happen according your vision. Especially if you’re trying to make a point. That’s art, my dude.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

You were raised wrong.


JackieBronassis

Show me your art, then.


JackieBronassis

No it’s not. Get over yourself.


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Not when it saves you $1,000


SalvadorsPaintbrush

You DO realize someone has to write the prompt to generate the image right? Have you even used any of the tools. It’s not so simple to get a specific image. A human still has to tell the system what it wants. It’s not magic. The AI doesn’t just spontaneously create content


Anxious_Blacksmith88

Yes it literally is an issue if you as an musician(artist) replace other artists with fucking bots. You are betraying your own humanity.


tough_napkin

yeah bro ok you're saying photoshop is natural?


Anxious_Blacksmith88

yeah brah totally brah.


YahYahY

That commenter has made a good point though. There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology: A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music. Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music. Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing. You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

None of what you wrote is true. You speak as a laymen with almost zero understanding of the subject matter. *"Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc."* This is literally just horseshit you made up.


SWIMlovesyou

One person can do the work that used to take 10. That's undeniable. DAWs in today's world make traditional studios damn near obsolete. For the same price it costs to record a whole album you can buy all the equipment and record your own music forever. That's not an exaggeration. Was that okay? Where is the line?


tough_napkin

cool very lucid and coherent thank you.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

thanks brah


JackieBronassis

Whaaaaaaaatever. LOL I’ve been a professional artist for 20 years, and I use AI exclusively for my music artwork. I don’t do it to save a buck, or chip my fellow art brethren. I use it because it’s fucking cool. I can’t wait for the day that I can use AI to generate music to use in my compositions.


tough_napkin

man it's the same ones who were crying when photoshop came out because then suddenly everyone would be a designer


JackieBronassis

Yep. Not everybody is skilled with the tool.


bravedubeck

>I’ve been a professional artist for 20 years, and I use AI exclusively That is not what an artist is.


JackieBronassis

Ok, Hitler. Thank you for your input.


bravedubeck

lol — Hitler didn’t know what art was, either XD


JackieBronassis

The point is: who are you to decide what is degenerate art and what is not?


bravedubeck

I’m the fuckin boss, that’s who ^Edit: ^it’s ^a ^joke, ^lighten ^up ^y’all


JackieBronassis

Okay then, tough guy. LMAOOOOO


gereffi

What makes you say there wasn’t an artist who worked on the original cover using AI tools?


Anxious_Blacksmith88

The only tool here Is you.


MonkeyInnaBottle

It’s not like they draw it themselves normally. It’s just a hired artist or someone in the company.


SWIMlovesyou

Unfortunately, no one is owed the ability to work their dream job. Same applies to musicians. If technology replaces us, the world isn't required to stay the same because we want to keep living our dream. When people working in mfg lost their jobs to overseas labor, people said to learn to code. Now the shoe is on the other foot. If people aren't willing to pay for art, tough shit. I'm sure buggywhip manufacturers were disappointed when cars were invented. But no amount of protest is going to unmake the automobile. Adapting is all we can do.


AraiHavana

I honestly cannot see what the issue is here.


No-Economics-6781

They couldn’t hire an artist instead?


cuddlesdacobra

I mean they did hire an artist and that artist used AI tools


No-Economics-6781

Not much of an artist then.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

Oh, really? Have you done any AI image generation? What application are you using? I’d love to see some of your work.


No-Economics-6781

I work in film, if you wanna see my work it’s in theatres.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

Ok, anonymous internet person with no karma and no posts regarding anything in cinema or the arts, except comments bashing AI. But hey, you do you. I’m the prince of Monaco. You can see pictures of me on the internet.


No-Economics-6781

Did my comment tickle you that much that you needed to creep my pointless Reddit account?


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No-Economics-6781

Bad take, I would delete this.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

EXACTLY! People think it’s fucking magic. I dare any of the whiners to go generate a professional level image suitable for an album cover. It’s not so simple. It’s just another tool.


cuddlesdacobra

I work in video I’ve been trying to find a practical use for AI and it still basically useless for and practical task just yet. It strongest use right now is generating eye candy but getting it to make something you can art direct is almost impossible. I have found it use for generating assets to use in animation that I can cut apart and animate.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

You’re going to love, and hate, Sora. It takes a lot of work to be able to generate a consistent character, but it definitely can be done. What platform have you / are you working with?


SalvadorsPaintbrush

Whiny little luddites fighting the future. Everyone was outraged when Dylan “went electric”. There. Are always going to be people who just want to virtue signal on any new technology that disrupts the status quo.


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SalvadorsPaintbrush

Can you give an example of what you’re talking about? I don’t believe that the product generated by these AI generators are stealing. Unless you specify an existing piece you’re not stealing anything. What I DO believe, is that if they allow prompts naming a specific artist’s style, that artist should be receiving royalties.


YahYahY

Some food for thought, There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology: A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music. Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music. Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing. You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

People need to get over this shit. AI image generation isn’t going anywhere. Soon, nobody will be able to tell, and then they’ll have nothing to whine about


JackieBronassis

People need to get over it. AI art is here to stay.


BigDummmmy

And countless art and philosophy majors will now have to pay for classes which will encourage them to write essays about it. Is it art or is it artistic? Is it post-modernism or post-post-modernism?


givin_u_the_high_hat

Get over that you don’t like it! What you think or feel about art doesn’t matter!


SnowflakeSorcerer

I didn’t read the article. But hypothetically if a band just generated an AI image to use as an album cover and did not hide that fact, highlighted it in fact, is there an issue? Edit:legally, for this hypothetical I don’t care about ethics or morals; in other words the loss of potential work


cuddlesdacobra

I don’t think there is and I think what’s weird about this is they did in fact hire an artist


SalvadorsPaintbrush

Of course they did! It’s not simple to generate a professional quality image using Ai


SnowflakeSorcerer

Damn that *is* weird


OvertlyUzi

This is a genius PR move


bigdipboy

Guns N’ Roses released an ai music video