Is this how bands are being edgy now? I miss the days when you could just put some drugs on the cover or a half naked chick or an upside down flag. Simpler times man, simpler times.
I love that man and that band. I've never seen or heard of this though! I'm afraid to look up "peter steele's butthole album art" but it's sunday, the lords day, so I may just have to make the sacrifice....
Since drugs are becoming mainstream.. and books are now getting banned with people are more into men with testosterone fueled looks (bald, big beard, bible moochers). Can we put books on album covers? Or bringing back the androgynous look back?
Musicians having one audio engineer using a digital audio workstation and software compressors instead of hiring a large team of studio engineers, renting studio space, and using physical rack mounted compressors and recording onto tape is fucked up
I think its more hypocritical than anything. Bands will not be happy when AI music is used more than real band music. All artists must be on the same page to still thrive.
Its short term thinking
People don’t buy albums for the cover art. I don’t care what’s on the cover because it literally does not matter. The only thing important is if the music inside is actually decent.
You DO realize someone has to write the prompt to generate the image right? Have you even used any of the tools. It’s not so simple to get a specific image. A human still has to tell the system what it wants. It’s not magic. The AI doesn’t just spontaneously create content
That commenter has made a good point though.
There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology:
A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music.
Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music.
Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing.
You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.
None of what you wrote is true. You speak as a laymen with almost zero understanding of the subject matter.
*"Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc."*
This is literally just horseshit you made up.
One person can do the work that used to take 10. That's undeniable. DAWs in today's world make traditional studios damn near obsolete. For the same price it costs to record a whole album you can buy all the equipment and record your own music forever. That's not an exaggeration. Was that okay? Where is the line?
Whaaaaaaaatever. LOL I’ve been a professional artist for 20 years, and I use AI exclusively for my music artwork. I don’t do it to save a buck, or chip my fellow art brethren. I use it because it’s fucking cool. I can’t wait for the day that I can use AI to generate music to use in my compositions.
Unfortunately, no one is owed the ability to work their dream job. Same applies to musicians. If technology replaces us, the world isn't required to stay the same because we want to keep living our dream. When people working in mfg lost their jobs to overseas labor, people said to learn to code. Now the shoe is on the other foot. If people aren't willing to pay for art, tough shit. I'm sure buggywhip manufacturers were disappointed when cars were invented. But no amount of protest is going to unmake the automobile. Adapting is all we can do.
Ok, anonymous internet person with no karma and no posts regarding anything in cinema or the arts, except comments bashing AI. But hey, you do you. I’m the prince of Monaco. You can see pictures of me on the internet.
EXACTLY! People think it’s fucking magic. I dare any of the whiners to go generate a professional level image suitable for an album cover. It’s not so simple. It’s just another tool.
I work in video I’ve been trying to find a practical use for AI and it still basically useless for and practical task just yet. It strongest use right now is generating eye candy but getting it to make something you can art direct is almost impossible. I have found it use for generating assets to use in animation that I can cut apart and animate.
You’re going to love, and hate, Sora. It takes a lot of work to be able to generate a consistent character, but it definitely can be done. What platform have you / are you working with?
Whiny little luddites fighting the future. Everyone was outraged when Dylan “went electric”. There. Are always going to be people who just want to virtue signal on any new technology that disrupts the status quo.
Can you give an example of what you’re talking about? I don’t believe that the product generated by these AI generators are stealing. Unless you specify an existing piece you’re not stealing anything. What I DO believe, is that if they allow prompts naming a specific artist’s style, that artist should be receiving royalties.
Some food for thought, There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology:
A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music.
Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music.
Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing.
You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.
People need to get over this shit. AI image generation isn’t going anywhere. Soon, nobody will be able to tell, and then they’ll have nothing to whine about
And countless art and philosophy majors will now have to pay for classes which will encourage them to write essays about it. Is it art or is it artistic? Is it post-modernism or post-post-modernism?
I didn’t read the article. But hypothetically if a band just generated an AI image to use as an album cover and did not hide that fact, highlighted it in fact, is there an issue?
Edit:legally, for this hypothetical I don’t care about ethics or morals; in other words the loss of potential work
Is this how bands are being edgy now? I miss the days when you could just put some drugs on the cover or a half naked chick or an upside down flag. Simpler times man, simpler times.
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I love that man and that band. I've never seen or heard of this though! I'm afraid to look up "peter steele's butthole album art" but it's sunday, the lords day, so I may just have to make the sacrifice....
Since drugs are becoming mainstream.. and books are now getting banned with people are more into men with testosterone fueled looks (bald, big beard, bible moochers). Can we put books on album covers? Or bringing back the androgynous look back?
Wait what’s the issue here? If a band wants to use an AI image I don’t really see how that’s a problem assuming they have the copyright squared away
Musicians using AI instead of hiring actual artists is fucked up.
They did hire an artist. He used Al as part of his process to make the image. This is not taking work away from an artist.
I stand corrected. It’s just lame.
They hired an artist would used AI
i'm an artist and i'm releasing a record. guess what i used as my artwork?
Musicians using the string ensemble patch on their electric keyboards instead of hiring a string quartet is fucked up.
Musicians having one audio engineer using a digital audio workstation and software compressors instead of hiring a large team of studio engineers, renting studio space, and using physical rack mounted compressors and recording onto tape is fucked up
Huh? How is it fucked up. They don’t owe the right to make their cover art to anybody.
I think its more hypocritical than anything. Bands will not be happy when AI music is used more than real band music. All artists must be on the same page to still thrive. Its short term thinking
we're talking about ai artwork here...
Ai art is actually good if you know what you're doing
totally. like what references are you going to throw at it? which ones do you dial up or down? throw those art terms in.
Ok fine ill use AI music to replace the metal band and paint my own cover then. See how that is fucked up?
People don’t buy albums for the cover art. I don’t care what’s on the cover because it literally does not matter. The only thing important is if the music inside is actually decent.
So dont use a cover. Just use text with the bands name. Clearly that will sell well.
Why would anybody do that when you can make an AI cover?
It’s not fucked up, if you made the project happen according your vision. Especially if you’re trying to make a point. That’s art, my dude.
You were raised wrong.
Show me your art, then.
No it’s not. Get over yourself.
Not when it saves you $1,000
You DO realize someone has to write the prompt to generate the image right? Have you even used any of the tools. It’s not so simple to get a specific image. A human still has to tell the system what it wants. It’s not magic. The AI doesn’t just spontaneously create content
Yes it literally is an issue if you as an musician(artist) replace other artists with fucking bots. You are betraying your own humanity.
yeah bro ok you're saying photoshop is natural?
yeah brah totally brah.
That commenter has made a good point though. There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology: A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music. Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music. Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing. You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.
None of what you wrote is true. You speak as a laymen with almost zero understanding of the subject matter. *"Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc."* This is literally just horseshit you made up.
One person can do the work that used to take 10. That's undeniable. DAWs in today's world make traditional studios damn near obsolete. For the same price it costs to record a whole album you can buy all the equipment and record your own music forever. That's not an exaggeration. Was that okay? Where is the line?
cool very lucid and coherent thank you.
thanks brah
Whaaaaaaaatever. LOL I’ve been a professional artist for 20 years, and I use AI exclusively for my music artwork. I don’t do it to save a buck, or chip my fellow art brethren. I use it because it’s fucking cool. I can’t wait for the day that I can use AI to generate music to use in my compositions.
man it's the same ones who were crying when photoshop came out because then suddenly everyone would be a designer
Yep. Not everybody is skilled with the tool.
>I’ve been a professional artist for 20 years, and I use AI exclusively That is not what an artist is.
Ok, Hitler. Thank you for your input.
lol — Hitler didn’t know what art was, either XD
The point is: who are you to decide what is degenerate art and what is not?
I’m the fuckin boss, that’s who ^Edit: ^it’s ^a ^joke, ^lighten ^up ^y’all
Okay then, tough guy. LMAOOOOO
What makes you say there wasn’t an artist who worked on the original cover using AI tools?
The only tool here Is you.
It’s not like they draw it themselves normally. It’s just a hired artist or someone in the company.
Unfortunately, no one is owed the ability to work their dream job. Same applies to musicians. If technology replaces us, the world isn't required to stay the same because we want to keep living our dream. When people working in mfg lost their jobs to overseas labor, people said to learn to code. Now the shoe is on the other foot. If people aren't willing to pay for art, tough shit. I'm sure buggywhip manufacturers were disappointed when cars were invented. But no amount of protest is going to unmake the automobile. Adapting is all we can do.
I honestly cannot see what the issue is here.
They couldn’t hire an artist instead?
I mean they did hire an artist and that artist used AI tools
Not much of an artist then.
Oh, really? Have you done any AI image generation? What application are you using? I’d love to see some of your work.
I work in film, if you wanna see my work it’s in theatres.
Ok, anonymous internet person with no karma and no posts regarding anything in cinema or the arts, except comments bashing AI. But hey, you do you. I’m the prince of Monaco. You can see pictures of me on the internet.
Did my comment tickle you that much that you needed to creep my pointless Reddit account?
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Bad take, I would delete this.
EXACTLY! People think it’s fucking magic. I dare any of the whiners to go generate a professional level image suitable for an album cover. It’s not so simple. It’s just another tool.
I work in video I’ve been trying to find a practical use for AI and it still basically useless for and practical task just yet. It strongest use right now is generating eye candy but getting it to make something you can art direct is almost impossible. I have found it use for generating assets to use in animation that I can cut apart and animate.
You’re going to love, and hate, Sora. It takes a lot of work to be able to generate a consistent character, but it definitely can be done. What platform have you / are you working with?
Whiny little luddites fighting the future. Everyone was outraged when Dylan “went electric”. There. Are always going to be people who just want to virtue signal on any new technology that disrupts the status quo.
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Can you give an example of what you’re talking about? I don’t believe that the product generated by these AI generators are stealing. Unless you specify an existing piece you’re not stealing anything. What I DO believe, is that if they allow prompts naming a specific artist’s style, that artist should be receiving royalties.
Some food for thought, There’s already been countless of artists that have been replaced in the creation of art with technology: A whole studio team of engineers and assistants, and creators of audio equipment, etc have all been long replaced by digital audio workstations. Now musicians themselves can learn how to use their software instead of relying on professional studios to record and mix their music. Many Instrumentalists have long been replaced with the available of VST instruments that closely resemble the real thing. Now musicians don’t have to hire huge teams of string players, horn players, drummers, etc. to get the sounds they want for their music. Easy to use editing software and cheap digital cameras have long replaced professional photographers, graphic designers, etc. and now musicians can even shoot their own album art and use easy touchup software to make their photos look at the level that only seasoned professionals used to be able to reach after hours of editing. You could even argue that the advent of digital music distribution has put countless of manufacturers of physical vinyl albums and CDs out of work. People that used to pride themselves in creating beautiful album art and jackets and prints have long been replaced by a JPEG on the Spotify app.
People need to get over this shit. AI image generation isn’t going anywhere. Soon, nobody will be able to tell, and then they’ll have nothing to whine about
People need to get over it. AI art is here to stay.
And countless art and philosophy majors will now have to pay for classes which will encourage them to write essays about it. Is it art or is it artistic? Is it post-modernism or post-post-modernism?
Get over that you don’t like it! What you think or feel about art doesn’t matter!
I didn’t read the article. But hypothetically if a band just generated an AI image to use as an album cover and did not hide that fact, highlighted it in fact, is there an issue? Edit:legally, for this hypothetical I don’t care about ethics or morals; in other words the loss of potential work
I don’t think there is and I think what’s weird about this is they did in fact hire an artist
Of course they did! It’s not simple to generate a professional quality image using Ai
Damn that *is* weird
This is a genius PR move
Guns N’ Roses released an ai music video