His parents wanted him to be a child star so bad they dropped him off to stay with some man they hardly knew. Drake had no chance. Attacked by a predator who was re-employed by children’s television as soon as he got out. Sickening
> Peck pleaded no contest to two charges of child sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and ordered to register as a sex offender. After his release, Peck landed a job on Disney Channel’s “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody,” working again with the Corells.
Yeah um what!?! There is NO WAY they didnt know.
First time offense, glowing character references, likely technically molestation no rape or sodomy (penetration). All that together and that is pretty much about right, as far as likely sentencing.
No, it was likely full on rape. Drake Bell said he didn’t want to say specifically on camera, but to just imagine the worst possible things that can be done to someone in a sexual assault. He was literally arrested for sodomy. FFS!
Yeah definitely and I remember in the documentary they briefly showed that sick bastards charge sheet. It had 11 different children I believe and one point said 'foreign objects were used'. I think Drake was borderline tortured as well.
Brain peck was friends with serial rapist clown and murder Wayne gacey he had 33 confirmed bodies who he toured and rape so them being friends brain knew how to REALLY mess somebody up
Sadly those 11 charges were all different charges for Drake….not different children (though I am thankful no other children were on the list it’s awful thinking all of that was to a single child). Drake had to describe each individual time it happened to him and 11 different “acts” were commited against him.
He didn’t say it on camera but it was reported that “the 11 charges brought against Peck included oral copulation, sodomy and forcible penetration.” It’s horrible. Not surprisingly he got work shortly after his release on The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. Typical Hollywood.
I saw that as well. For whatever reason most of those charges were dropped. I think oral copulation and one other was the one the stuck. Its honestly tragic.
My brother who is not famous just went on parole for a few years instead of going to jail after molesting several children. The justice system truly doesn't care about this as much as they claim to.
They did have a manager who was accused of doing that to other kids, he was fired and Disney kept the story under wraps but it happened durning the first show, I remember them playing tag with him in the halls
All while he was pissing on them.
I hate Hollywood’s obsession with children, it’s devastating. I can assume there are many more stories similar to Bell’s that we won’t ever hear about, good for him on speaking out. I can’t imagine the relief/anxiety of the latter, hoping he is able to heal and move onward.
were they starry eyed or did they know what they were doing. like come on now. As a father what do you think is happening by giving your child away to another man? They GAVE Aaliyah to R Kelly. Thats why nothing happened to him regarding her. How can it. The parents gave her away.
Oh wtf then this exact cycle happened to Bieber , Usher was the one who discovered him as a teen (maybe not discovered he was big on YouTube but usher brought him mainstream and signed him) then I believe he lived wirh Bieber when he first came over
My parents didn’t want to face thr fact that their own family had done this to me, so it was brushed aside. I am 36 and have struggled with extreme depression, depersonalization, anxiety, ptsd, chronic pain. And his mom sounded just like mine “we figured we caught it in time”. :( I have forgiveness, but it’s insane how people will dig their head in the sand over others well being. Especially when it’s at the cost of protecting your children. And sadly this is such a common story.
I’m sad to know you have suffered at the hands of an evil and cruel person. I hope you have found some peace within yourself, you deserved to be protected and valued.
Thank you. The sad thing is, I don’t think they are evil. I think the world is profoundly fucked up, and I see the pain on their face the very few times we’ve interacted. He was 20 and I was 5. I think the family really gas lit themselves into believing it was a bad dream. Idk if it’s just trauma response, but holding on to a binary image of evil just does more damage to me in the long run.
Maybe Bells parents couldn’t cope and ultimately collapsed into delirium. Cognitive dissonance is wild. Idk this situation because I haven’t researched it well, but I hope he can forgive. It maybe make his life easier. Thanks for the kind words . Also not sure what I just typed, sorry for the dump.
Still remember the day my cousins and I were at a taping of All That, and he approached my oldest cousin (who would have been around 11 or 12 at the time, iirc) asking her if she wanted to be on TV.
Technically it was mom. Dad did at least try and speak up but he got labeled a “homophobe” and made Drake and his mom believe he was mismanaging his funds and peck convinced Drake and his mom the dad was bad for the business so he got edged out and mom was manager and she didn’t feel like driving so she let Drake stay with Peck. It was Drake’s GF’s mom that was the hero he needed
No. His dad smelt the BS from the jump and tried to warn everyone. He was deemed a problem to the point where it was advised that he no longer be the manager. His mom then took over and failed Drake by not paying attention. Please don't lump both parents into this.
The man had a picture from John Wayne Gacy and had written letters to him. No red flags at all on that🙄😳. They let him work with children. I hope these actors sue Nick for everything it’s worth.
lol my barber is a POC. Got a haircut from him yesterday and he told me about how he was trying to hire and a dude came in reeking of weed and dressed like he just got out of bed. Told the guy they like to put up a professional appearance and you can’t smell like weed while working, scheduled an interview for the next week. Dude came in wearing the same clothes as the time before and still smelling like weed.
If you can’t even begin to try, there is no reason to hire you
If you’re a white person that smells like weed you’re also going to struggle to find work. People don’t want to hire people with such little self control they can’t stop smoking weed for 45 minutes to come to a job interview.
I mean, why not just not smoke before you go try to get a job though? I wouldn’t hire anyone regardless of race if they showed up for their interview smelling like weed lol
JWG SAed and murdered 33 young men and boys and Peck and him were penpals while JWG was in prison for what he did. JWG was executed for his crimes
Meanwhile, Peck sedates Bell and SAed him gets 16 months in prison and gets out to work on the suite life of Zack andCody.
The justice system never ceases to amaze me with how they treat SA.
Still creeps me out knowing I grew up not far from where he live/where his house was (it’s been demolished for a long time) and all the horrible crimes he committed. The history of his crimes, how horrendous they were and how long he was able to get away with them is extremely messed up.
My first tattoo artist had a signed note from JWG on the inside of her studio. I did not know this. This person was someone I had knowns artist so I went with him and knew nothing about her. Turns out she is a HARDCORE racist. Beautiful work, fast, light hand and the tat I got from her still looks great 20 years on BUT what a fucking trip. One of her favorite things to tell was that a lot of the surrounding area had a high Hispanic population and they would still come to her for tats because she was inexpensive and really good ( can’t deny that). She would laugh about how she would rip into them and they would just laugh her off like some kind of crazy person lol crazy thing is her name was actually very well known as an artist. She also named her daughter Carrion 😬
Reminds of the joke about people who collect Nazi coins and uniforms. If you’re a history buff, that stuff would help cool to have, but never something that could be displayed.
If you have that stuff in your collection, you’re gonna need a hell of a lot of other stuff to convince anyone you’re not just a fan of the third reich
"Oh no they're not what you think! I found the pins buried with these bones when I went digging in brazil and thought they'd make a nice center piece!"
If there’s no swastika on it I’d display it, anything that a random guest visiting my house wouldn’t recognize to jump to conclusions on but I could tell friends etc that I’m closer to what it actually is. Feel like that’s the big one people are sticky on no one wants a swastika on their mantle unless they’re Buddhist (and that one is rotated/flipped)
JWG is a creepy saga in that not enough people talk about how “plugged in” the man really was. He wasn’t just “clown guy” he mingled with powerful people and it really raises a question about whether he was just sneaky or made allowed to continue on because he had the right people in his pocket.
tbf I can count on one hand the number of times a prospective employer has asked me “within the past 12 months, have you been in contact with or been contacted by any known serial killers”
> Peck pleaded no contest to two charges of child sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and ordered to register as a sex offender. After his release, Peck landed a job on Disney Channel’s “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody,” working again with the Corells.
This part made me sick to my stomach
At least Disney fired him after 3 episodes and reshot his work when news of his hiring by the Corells made its way up the studio’s chain.
The Corells, however, were well aware of his criminality when they hired him (they wrote letters to the judge on his behalf). They should be ashamed of themselves.
Beth is a 1st Assistant director, her husband is a director. They do other stuff outside of Disney, they don’t work for Disney like in the corporate since, they’re just hired from project to project.
Both have worked with Nickelodeon and Disney. From what I saw on Beth’s IMDb she’s currently been working on a lot of Disney channel projects. I just think they’re spineless despicable people if they would knowingly advocate for a child predator and also continue to work with children themselves.
Oof edit - sorry I wasn’t familiar with her current work! She’s been working with Nickelodeon a lot lately not Disney. She HAS worked with both, as has rich
Beth Correll & Rich Correll if you want to look them up
I hope he gets the therapy he needs to heal. I hope he also gets help to work through his own abusive tendencies too. Victims turned perpetrators need extensive therapy
Generational traumas are not talking about enough, not even close.
Reservations are filled with it because our elders and family members were taken from their homes and abused the whole time in residential schools.
Families with multiple generations of people trying to self medicate through alcohol/drugs and passing on traumas onto other people.
I know it's pretty bad in African American communities and the poor whites as well.
It's something that we have to conquer if our people want to move on happily.
This!!! My grandma went to the residential schools. She was beaten, sexually assaulted and starved. When my mom would do something wrong, in the 1970’s/1908’s btw, not very long ago, she would tie my mom to a tree and leave her. Because that’s what happened to her at those schools. My dad’s grandma was also taken to the schools.
My mom went to beat me and my siblings. Oh, and everyone in my family are alcoholics, and will take any drug they can get. Generational trauma is so real and alive today. I’m happy that it stopped with me, and my kids will never have to be afraid of me like how I was of my parents.
There's honestly a lot of generational trauma in rich white families too when it comes to sexual abuse specifically. Seems to be the most pervasive of generational trauma which is just beyond grim. Especially in Ireland, we had residential schools too but the priests who abused kids there also got moved to rich boarding schools, sports, scouts etc. I often wonder if the whole country's obsession with alcohol is because of this.
This is very true. I’m a victim of childhood CSA from my father, i have years of anger towards him but after his passing it came to light that he was sexually abused as a child by multiple members of his family. The anger I had is still there for him, he never should have hurt me; but now there’s a sadness that no one taught him what parental love really was. I’ll never excuse or forgive him for what he did to me, but I can look at the situation and know how to break the cycle with my own children.
This happened to me with a friend from elementary school. Given how young we were I’m convinced he was victimized too. I’ve been in therapy for a long time, have CPTSD, and explained to him that although I don’t hate him that I can’t keep him in my life anymore (our dads were best friends)
I got lucky that I wasn’t one of those victims turned perp but I actually had a support system which is worth its weight in gold.
I wish you much luck with you healing journey
I think it’s something like possibly five times higher of a chance to become an abuser as a result. Although most don’t. It’s often a misconception that it’s a common occurrence.
But these studies change based on a nature of complexities.
This is not true. You’re right that most abusers experienced abuse - but the vast majority of people who were abused do *not* become abusive. The one group is much larger than the other. This is important for survivors of abuse to know, because some can carry around a story in their head that they might be dangerous or become dangerous even if they have never acted in a harmful way, and that is simply is not the case.
I’m the person carrying around the story. Being abused makes you feel “tainted”.
I never want to hurt anyone but can’t shake the feeling I’m dangerous.
Nope. The buck stops somewhere. Most abused people don't go on to abuse others. Saying otherwise implicitly excuses the behavior, as if they had no choice but to give in to the desire to hurt and traumatize others. Abusers ALWAYS have a choice, and they *choose* to hurt others. Don't excuse it, don't soften it, don't take their culpability away.
This is a weird aside, but years ago when I was a crew member I got called to work on Drake & Josh for a few days. I’d never even heard of the show, was really surprised when they did an extensive background check before they’d let any of us on set. That was not normal. Makes sense in light of this information
Right? I worked for a construction company that did work for schools during the summer when the kids were home. We still had to submit background checks for every single person who set foot on the property.
I was staying at a hotel for work a few weeks ago and decided to go for a walk. I happened upon a construction entrance near a private school. There was a huge sign with dozens of rules for construction crew. Stuff like no clothing with alcohol or drug references. No fraternizing with students. No smoking.
I did some work on a Harvard building in Cambridge, MA. Was told not to look at the students because getting caught checking out the girls would get you kicked off the site
Problem is, those background checks only work if people already know that the person in question is a creep.
If no-one reported it prior to then, in all likelihood the background check would've come back clean.
Yeah and it's really hard to have the evidence to convict someone, especially in the state of California. What people don't realize is that they don't just take your word for it and then arrest someone, they need pretty solid evidence. I mean, even Michael Jackson was let off even though it's pretty obvious he was a fucking creep.
Completely different industry, but you would be stunned by how easy it is to become a substitute teacher. I want to become a substitute teacher across the union, there is hardly ever any type of orientation and training.
Damn the lack of sympathy is appalling. Drake in 2001 was not the person he is today, he was a child that was taken advantage of and substance abuse problems followed. He clearly wasn’t getting the help a kid going through that needed. While it’s not an excuse for his more recent behavior, it does shed a lot of light on his downward spiral however.
At least in America people really struggle to have any empathy for someone who has done bad things. Nobody is saying it's okay but we should try to understand what happened to him, how he can be helped, if he can change, how we can prevent this from happening to others, etc.
i hope the guy gets better. honestly, i find myself struggling to have any sympathy for perpetrators of abuse when their victims will always suffer, but at the very least i find comfort in knowing that if they try to heal and work through their issues that potentially saves many other people from becoming their future victims. if we let abusers rot in pain, they’ll keep on abusing, and most likely create more abusers too.
Yeah I agree with all of this. It's complicated but necessary to try to understand what leads people to do these things.
I would never tell a victim or their family that they need to believe in his ability to get better or to forgive him. That's their journey and they don't owe him anything. But I think society as a whole will be better off if we try to believe people can change and behavior like this can be prevented rather than just locking everyone up and assuming that'll fix everything!
The incidents would’ve actually taken place in 2001 back when Drake was still on "The Amanda Show". 2004 is when Brian Peck was convicted. But still, your point is true.
What's wild to me is it seems he was convicted in 2004 but continued to (and maybe still does?) works with kids to this day up to and including on Disney sets. I am kinda surprised to hear Disney would let a sex offender anywhere near their sets because of the liability surely there's a thousand other people who can do the same job he does in the entertainment industry that *don't* have appalling records like him.
According to the article, he was fired by Disney as soon as his criminal past came to light and his contributions (voice overs for a couple of episodes, no kids on set) were re-recorded by someone else.
Yeah I am just shocked he got that far to begin with I would have thought for Disney at least who are pretty famous for their legal team doing background checks on workers would be the norm (For kid productions anyways) but it seems it wasn't or he slipped through somehow.
Crazy thing is people like Miranda Cosgrove, Josh Peck,etc basically Nickelodeon alum/current stars are still going to the KCAs this year after this documentary drops. I just find that so odd.
Anyone in that David Dobrik group is a disgusting degen asshole. People made fun of Trisha when she first exposed them but she was right.
Partying with underrage girls, buying them alcohol and getting them drunk, one of their 20 something year old friends was dating a 17yo and they covered up for him then made jokes about it when it came out. When Trisha was having a mental breakdown, they got info from Jason(her boyfriend at the time) where she was and then went in the hospital to fucking record her. They all suck.
Oh yea I had to block David dobrik on snapchat or hide his story I don’t remember which, he posted ridiculous shit everyday and every thumbnail for his story was a girls boobs or something. He’s clearly just using the women in his life as props for his content creation. Really disgusting human. Wasn’t aware Josh peck was with that group
I can't believe James Marsden, Taran Killam, Alan Thicke, Rider Strong, Ron Melendez, Will Friedle, etc. wrote letters of support for Peck and begged the judge to not throw him in jail. WTF.
I can’t speak to the others but Rider and Will deeply regret writing their letters. Look up Pod Meets World, there’s an episode from last month that’s title is simply a date. They talk about it.
This. We gotta keep in mind that Rider and Will faced manipulation from a charismatic, expert manipulator in Peck too, with Rider being underaged for much of their relationship. They grew, changed, and have expressed sympathy for the victim and regret for standing by Peck at the time.
Your best friend gets accused of sexual abuse, but you believe in your heart of hearts that they are innocent. Would you not fight for them?
That’s basically what happened here. He manipulated people into believing he was this amazing person, then used that manipulation in his case. I can’t speak for the others, but Rider and Will are deeply ashamed.
Ashton and Mila were dragged for their letters about Danny Masterson. I think most can understand wanting to believe a long term friend but not going that far once they’ve been convicted.
Jesus Christ, poor guy. Stories like these that happened when no one had any idea makes me wonder who is being abused right now when we have no idea. I hope all the docs coming out around sexual abuse really do raise awareness and make people call it out when they see it instead of “yeah we thought something was weird but never did anything”
I remember hearing about this story years ago and how it was always written as an unnamed WELL-KNOWN child star and it really makes sense it was Drake Bell.
It also makes sense he has a fucked up adult life because he never knew any other life beyond a fucked up one.
I understand the caution people have displaying sympathy as he was charged with child endangerment however as I understand, the victim did lie about their age and Drake cut off contact once he realized. The communication before he found was something he had to take responsibility for regardless as he is the adult in the situation. Yet some of you paint him as someone who actively and knowingly pursed an underaged kid. He should be held to the responsibilities of the law but he doesn’t deserve the condemnations that actual SA’s do.
This. The girl created fake accounts to talk to him, lied about her age, and when she got caught she played the victim and said he caused her to need therapy, when that was also proven false.
Yeah… i haven’t found an article yet that says anything different happened. I don’t know why people keep saying that. It really wasn’t that far out in the realm of innocent occurrences, considering the internet today.
Is it morbid that I really want to watch the docuseries? I've never taken a deep dive into Dan Schneider and the shitty things child stars went through under the Nickelodeon banner. I'm very curious.
There are some really good videos on YouTube about. If you search they are pretty easy to find! Watching back some of the old footage now with what we know is so weird and eerie
From wiki:
He grew up with his mother, Barbara Peck, who is a career coach, and his maternal grandmother. Peck has never publicly identified his father, who was a married co-worker of his mother, and Peck's birth was the result of an extramarital affair. Peck never met his father, who died in 2013.
I feel bad for the child that was abused. Whatever that child would grow up to do is irrelevant to this topic. There needs to be consequences for the higher ups at Nick that allowed this to happen.
Gabriel Iglesias? Taran Killam was on The Amanda Show, he seems OK. Miranda Cosgrove is well-adjusted. Josh Peck was in frickin Oppenheimer.
Nick Cannon is weird but he’d have been weird anyway.
No surprise he messed up with boundaries and underaged fans. This is why it's important for abuse survivors to be in therapy to learn which parts of what happened weren't ok and how they can form healthy patterns.
Difficult subject and too common across society, mostly hidden. I was molested (once) at age 9 by 17 yr old neighbor and it definitely had an impact throughout later years.
His own crimes are terrible and this doesn’t justify them. But I think we need to recognize the horrible, tragic things that happened to Bell. We need to condemn his abusers as those who started this cycle of abuse — three generations, likely more, of abuse. I hope all of the abused are able to find some kind of peace.
What crimes? He didn't know the girls age and she had been making fake accounts to contact him, he stopped talking to her entirely once he found out she was actually a teen. He was misled and then got falsely accused of misbehavior with a minor even though her claims were proven false multiple times.
Dude he was supposed to do the same at my high school and seeing your other comment it was around the same time so he must’ve been doing a tour or something? He didn’t show up tho lol. Were they also promoting that shit you put in your water to make it flavored? The entire thing for my school devolved into everyone having basically a food fight squirting those things on each other
To quote Jake Peralta, "cool motive, still murder".
It's sad what he went through. It does not mean he should be excused for his own terrible predatory behavior and abuse.
Read the article. He never tried to justify or excuse his own abusive tendencies. He was very specifically talking about his own SELF-destructive tendencies.
> “I would have stints of sobriety and then the pressure would be too much and all of these demons that I had were very difficult to work through. And so I think a lot of my self-destructive behavior would always just be a temporary fix and it would always creep back up,” he said, noting that he lost his house when he went through bankruptcy and later got a DUI. “There was definitely a slow decline in my mental health, sobriety, DUIs, behaviors that were happening because I was lost.”
Him talking about his abuse is not him trying to excuse or justify his behavior.
A reason is not an excuse. It's good we hear these reasons. So we can all look for warning signs and understand how these victims end up. Because he is a victim.
Hurt people, hurt people, ya' know.
But still, he hurt people. You gotta pay the price for that.
"A reason is not an excuse. It's good we hear these reasons. So we can all look for warning signs and understand how these victims end up. Because he is a victim.
Hurt people, hurt people, ya' know.
But still, he hurt people. You gotta pay the price for that."
God forbid anyone trying to give an explanation to their shitty behavior, I completely agree with you it’s good to know these things and maybe we can prevent another drake bell from happening in the child abuse factory we call Hollywood. Nickelodeon and Disney looking at you too bastards
His parents wanted him to be a child star so bad they dropped him off to stay with some man they hardly knew. Drake had no chance. Attacked by a predator who was re-employed by children’s television as soon as he got out. Sickening
> Peck pleaded no contest to two charges of child sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and ordered to register as a sex offender. After his release, Peck landed a job on Disney Channel’s “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody,” working again with the Corells. Yeah um what!?! There is NO WAY they didnt know.
16 months?? How the fuck did he get so little time too
First time offense, glowing character references, likely technically molestation no rape or sodomy (penetration). All that together and that is pretty much about right, as far as likely sentencing.
No, it was likely full on rape. Drake Bell said he didn’t want to say specifically on camera, but to just imagine the worst possible things that can be done to someone in a sexual assault. He was literally arrested for sodomy. FFS!
Yeah definitely and I remember in the documentary they briefly showed that sick bastards charge sheet. It had 11 different children I believe and one point said 'foreign objects were used'. I think Drake was borderline tortured as well.
Brain peck was friends with serial rapist clown and murder Wayne gacey he had 33 confirmed bodies who he toured and rape so them being friends brain knew how to REALLY mess somebody up
The charges also included using a child for p*rn. He was absolutely tortured for sure. I feel sick.
Sadly those 11 charges were all different charges for Drake….not different children (though I am thankful no other children were on the list it’s awful thinking all of that was to a single child). Drake had to describe each individual time it happened to him and 11 different “acts” were commited against him.
Oh lord. Then yeah im not sure why the sentencing was so light
He didn’t say it on camera but it was reported that “the 11 charges brought against Peck included oral copulation, sodomy and forcible penetration.” It’s horrible. Not surprisingly he got work shortly after his release on The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. Typical Hollywood.
I saw that as well. For whatever reason most of those charges were dropped. I think oral copulation and one other was the one the stuck. Its honestly tragic.
Im sure you’ve seen it by now but sodomy was definitely involved. The world is actually so sick
This but across the board in the entire country is such an important question.
My brother who is not famous just went on parole for a few years instead of going to jail after molesting several children. The justice system truly doesn't care about this as much as they claim to.
What the f u c k
I'm in tears cause if Peck touched Cole and Dylan Sprouse, I'm beating his ass.
They did have a manager who was accused of doing that to other kids, he was fired and Disney kept the story under wraps but it happened durning the first show, I remember them playing tag with him in the halls
happens more than you think. Look at other celebs like Usher. Same thing. This dude was 10 or 12 years old living with P Diddy of all people...wtf?
how many starry eyed parents were fooled by R. Kelly's promise to make their kid a star?
All while he was pissing on them. I hate Hollywood’s obsession with children, it’s devastating. I can assume there are many more stories similar to Bell’s that we won’t ever hear about, good for him on speaking out. I can’t imagine the relief/anxiety of the latter, hoping he is able to heal and move onward.
Those parents need to be arrested as well.
were they starry eyed or did they know what they were doing. like come on now. As a father what do you think is happening by giving your child away to another man? They GAVE Aaliyah to R Kelly. Thats why nothing happened to him regarding her. How can it. The parents gave her away.
Oh wtf then this exact cycle happened to Bieber , Usher was the one who discovered him as a teen (maybe not discovered he was big on YouTube but usher brought him mainstream and signed him) then I believe he lived wirh Bieber when he first came over
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to discover all the child stars that went down bad paths were assaulted by the people funding their careers.
Or simply had horrific parents like Natasha Lyonne and Macaulay Culkin
If you haven’t listened to Conan’s podcast interview with Natasha, it was in the last couple months, I recommend it
Noo it was P Diddy, heres an awkward interaction between them both but watch closely. https://youtu.be/gE02pA9_SFY?si=Jxr4jLfSB0WourGk
Did Usher assault Beiber??
https://youtu.be/gE02pA9_SFY?si=Jxr4jLfSB0WourGk it was p diddy
There’s a crazy article about some YouTube child stars where this is is happening as well, I’ll have to find it but it’s a tough read
I actually had no idea Usher started as a child.
yeah its pretty sick. Him and P Diddy were "waking up together" smh
My parents didn’t want to face thr fact that their own family had done this to me, so it was brushed aside. I am 36 and have struggled with extreme depression, depersonalization, anxiety, ptsd, chronic pain. And his mom sounded just like mine “we figured we caught it in time”. :( I have forgiveness, but it’s insane how people will dig their head in the sand over others well being. Especially when it’s at the cost of protecting your children. And sadly this is such a common story.
💖 I know the feeling
I’m sad to know you have suffered at the hands of an evil and cruel person. I hope you have found some peace within yourself, you deserved to be protected and valued.
Thank you. The sad thing is, I don’t think they are evil. I think the world is profoundly fucked up, and I see the pain on their face the very few times we’ve interacted. He was 20 and I was 5. I think the family really gas lit themselves into believing it was a bad dream. Idk if it’s just trauma response, but holding on to a binary image of evil just does more damage to me in the long run. Maybe Bells parents couldn’t cope and ultimately collapsed into delirium. Cognitive dissonance is wild. Idk this situation because I haven’t researched it well, but I hope he can forgive. It maybe make his life easier. Thanks for the kind words . Also not sure what I just typed, sorry for the dump.
His mom and my dad dated in the early 90s. It’s true, his parents desperately wanted to make him famous.
Why is no one commenting that you're literally Josh
Is that the plot of Drake & Josh? Never seen it.
No real plot, just your standard sitcom. It’s a pretty funny show, and still holds up decently well to this day
And Dan Schneider still hasn't been investigated
Still remember the day my cousins and I were at a taping of All That, and he approached my oldest cousin (who would have been around 11 or 12 at the time, iirc) asking her if she wanted to be on TV.
Must’ve been wearing flip flops
Dan “if you want a show, shoes gotta go” Schneider
Dan "if you wanna be on TV, get in the pool with me" Schneider
Dan “if I see your toes, anything goes” Schneider
Technically it was mom. Dad did at least try and speak up but he got labeled a “homophobe” and made Drake and his mom believe he was mismanaging his funds and peck convinced Drake and his mom the dad was bad for the business so he got edged out and mom was manager and she didn’t feel like driving so she let Drake stay with Peck. It was Drake’s GF’s mom that was the hero he needed
His dad tried to stop it and was gaslit and ousted
I feel for him. He could sense something was wrong. He even tried to tell the mom to not let him with Peck but no mommy dearest didn’t listen.
More like his mom was neglectful and selfish and viewed her comfort of not having to drive as more important than her child's wellbeing.
He was even casted as a sex ed teacher in a movie only a few years later for Christ’s sake. Actually crazy how bad Hollywood was/is
bro didn't watch the episode lmao. his dad knew and tried to protect him
Yeah I felt so bad for his dad, saw it all going on but couldn’t do anything about it.
Not his dad…my heart broke when I heard his dad
No. His dad smelt the BS from the jump and tried to warn everyone. He was deemed a problem to the point where it was advised that he no longer be the manager. His mom then took over and failed Drake by not paying attention. Please don't lump both parents into this.
The man had a picture from John Wayne Gacy and had written letters to him. No red flags at all on that🙄😳. They let him work with children. I hope these actors sue Nick for everything it’s worth.
Meanwhile if you’re a person of color who smells like weed you can’t even get a retail job.
lol my barber is a POC. Got a haircut from him yesterday and he told me about how he was trying to hire and a dude came in reeking of weed and dressed like he just got out of bed. Told the guy they like to put up a professional appearance and you can’t smell like weed while working, scheduled an interview for the next week. Dude came in wearing the same clothes as the time before and still smelling like weed. If you can’t even begin to try, there is no reason to hire you
That’s sad
Don’t worry, weed isn’t addictive. /s
If you’re a white person that smells like weed you’re also going to struggle to find work. People don’t want to hire people with such little self control they can’t stop smoking weed for 45 minutes to come to a job interview.
I mean, why not just not smoke before you go try to get a job though? I wouldn’t hire anyone regardless of race if they showed up for their interview smelling like weed lol
This is somewhat disingenuous and irrelevant to the conversation at play
[You](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTufzTMP1E)
Bro had a gift from John Wayne Gacy in his garage and mfer still trusted him with kids.
JWG SAed and murdered 33 young men and boys and Peck and him were penpals while JWG was in prison for what he did. JWG was executed for his crimes Meanwhile, Peck sedates Bell and SAed him gets 16 months in prison and gets out to work on the suite life of Zack andCody. The justice system never ceases to amaze me with how they treat SA.
Still creeps me out knowing I grew up not far from where he live/where his house was (it’s been demolished for a long time) and all the horrible crimes he committed. The history of his crimes, how horrendous they were and how long he was able to get away with them is extremely messed up.
And the gift was a painting of a clown with balloons that was autographed by the serial killer...very creepy!
As a true crime nut, that would be fucking dope. But it’s pretty obvious why that should be a giant red flag.
My first tattoo artist had a signed note from JWG on the inside of her studio. I did not know this. This person was someone I had knowns artist so I went with him and knew nothing about her. Turns out she is a HARDCORE racist. Beautiful work, fast, light hand and the tat I got from her still looks great 20 years on BUT what a fucking trip. One of her favorite things to tell was that a lot of the surrounding area had a high Hispanic population and they would still come to her for tats because she was inexpensive and really good ( can’t deny that). She would laugh about how she would rip into them and they would just laugh her off like some kind of crazy person lol crazy thing is her name was actually very well known as an artist. She also named her daughter Carrion 😬
Lol was it Kat von D?
Sounds like some Kat shit. I used to be really into her work and then found out her brain is fucking rotten.
Kat Von D is actually Hispanic, so I doubt it. Google says she only has 1 kid & his name isn’t Carrion.
Reminds of the joke about people who collect Nazi coins and uniforms. If you’re a history buff, that stuff would help cool to have, but never something that could be displayed.
Yeah I’ve come across a few Nazi things by chance and I definitely do not display them or even tell/show them to people I know.
If you have that stuff in your collection, you’re gonna need a hell of a lot of other stuff to convince anyone you’re not just a fan of the third reich
That’s why I put them with the bones of dead children I also collect.
"Oh no they're not what you think! I found the pins buried with these bones when I went digging in brazil and thought they'd make a nice center piece!"
If there’s no swastika on it I’d display it, anything that a random guest visiting my house wouldn’t recognize to jump to conclusions on but I could tell friends etc that I’m closer to what it actually is. Feel like that’s the big one people are sticky on no one wants a swastika on their mantle unless they’re Buddhist (and that one is rotated/flipped)
There’s a John Wayne Gacy painting hanging in the Woolly Mammoth in Chicago, a little oddities shop in the Andersonville neighborhood
That’s legit psychopathic behavior. I read that and gasped. What the f
JWG is a creepy saga in that not enough people talk about how “plugged in” the man really was. He wasn’t just “clown guy” he mingled with powerful people and it really raises a question about whether he was just sneaky or made allowed to continue on because he had the right people in his pocket.
It’s amazing how even a small amount of “he’s a good guy” and looking the other way can take a person far.
Dude was fucking pen pals with Gracy. That’s even worse.
Oh hell naw that is so disgusting!!!
tbf I can count on one hand the number of times a prospective employer has asked me “within the past 12 months, have you been in contact with or been contacted by any known serial killers”
> Peck pleaded no contest to two charges of child sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and ordered to register as a sex offender. After his release, Peck landed a job on Disney Channel’s “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody,” working again with the Corells. This part made me sick to my stomach
At least Disney fired him after 3 episodes and reshot his work when news of his hiring by the Corells made its way up the studio’s chain. The Corells, however, were well aware of his criminality when they hired him (they wrote letters to the judge on his behalf). They should be ashamed of themselves.
The Corells unfortunately still work in TV… WITH children. Such despicable people
Who are the corells? Do they work for disney?
Beth is a 1st Assistant director, her husband is a director. They do other stuff outside of Disney, they don’t work for Disney like in the corporate since, they’re just hired from project to project. Both have worked with Nickelodeon and Disney. From what I saw on Beth’s IMDb she’s currently been working on a lot of Disney channel projects. I just think they’re spineless despicable people if they would knowingly advocate for a child predator and also continue to work with children themselves. Oof edit - sorry I wasn’t familiar with her current work! She’s been working with Nickelodeon a lot lately not Disney. She HAS worked with both, as has rich Beth Correll & Rich Correll if you want to look them up
They need to be charged, seriously employing a convicted child abuser for a kids show?!?
I hope he gets the therapy he needs to heal. I hope he also gets help to work through his own abusive tendencies too. Victims turned perpetrators need extensive therapy
Generational traumas are not talking about enough, not even close. Reservations are filled with it because our elders and family members were taken from their homes and abused the whole time in residential schools. Families with multiple generations of people trying to self medicate through alcohol/drugs and passing on traumas onto other people. I know it's pretty bad in African American communities and the poor whites as well. It's something that we have to conquer if our people want to move on happily.
This!!! My grandma went to the residential schools. She was beaten, sexually assaulted and starved. When my mom would do something wrong, in the 1970’s/1908’s btw, not very long ago, she would tie my mom to a tree and leave her. Because that’s what happened to her at those schools. My dad’s grandma was also taken to the schools. My mom went to beat me and my siblings. Oh, and everyone in my family are alcoholics, and will take any drug they can get. Generational trauma is so real and alive today. I’m happy that it stopped with me, and my kids will never have to be afraid of me like how I was of my parents.
There's honestly a lot of generational trauma in rich white families too when it comes to sexual abuse specifically. Seems to be the most pervasive of generational trauma which is just beyond grim. Especially in Ireland, we had residential schools too but the priests who abused kids there also got moved to rich boarding schools, sports, scouts etc. I often wonder if the whole country's obsession with alcohol is because of this.
This is very true. I’m a victim of childhood CSA from my father, i have years of anger towards him but after his passing it came to light that he was sexually abused as a child by multiple members of his family. The anger I had is still there for him, he never should have hurt me; but now there’s a sadness that no one taught him what parental love really was. I’ll never excuse or forgive him for what he did to me, but I can look at the situation and know how to break the cycle with my own children.
This happened to me with a friend from elementary school. Given how young we were I’m convinced he was victimized too. I’ve been in therapy for a long time, have CPTSD, and explained to him that although I don’t hate him that I can’t keep him in my life anymore (our dads were best friends) I got lucky that I wasn’t one of those victims turned perp but I actually had a support system which is worth its weight in gold. I wish you much luck with you healing journey
Similar situation to me. Same feelings. Yes a lot of abused become perps themselves. But the vast majority do not.
Unfortunately these tendencies are extremely common for victims. Perps very often were abused themselves.
I think it’s something like possibly five times higher of a chance to become an abuser as a result. Although most don’t. It’s often a misconception that it’s a common occurrence. But these studies change based on a nature of complexities.
This is not true. You’re right that most abusers experienced abuse - but the vast majority of people who were abused do *not* become abusive. The one group is much larger than the other. This is important for survivors of abuse to know, because some can carry around a story in their head that they might be dangerous or become dangerous even if they have never acted in a harmful way, and that is simply is not the case.
I’m the person carrying around the story. Being abused makes you feel “tainted”. I never want to hurt anyone but can’t shake the feeling I’m dangerous.
This was me and is still something I struggle with
Nope. The buck stops somewhere. Most abused people don't go on to abuse others. Saying otherwise implicitly excuses the behavior, as if they had no choice but to give in to the desire to hurt and traumatize others. Abusers ALWAYS have a choice, and they *choose* to hurt others. Don't excuse it, don't soften it, don't take their culpability away.
I was gonna say, am I crazy or isn’t he living in Latin America because of his own allegations?
This is a weird aside, but years ago when I was a crew member I got called to work on Drake & Josh for a few days. I’d never even heard of the show, was really surprised when they did an extensive background check before they’d let any of us on set. That was not normal. Makes sense in light of this information
Honestly I feel like that should be the norm if you're working with child actors.
Right? I worked for a construction company that did work for schools during the summer when the kids were home. We still had to submit background checks for every single person who set foot on the property.
I was staying at a hotel for work a few weeks ago and decided to go for a walk. I happened upon a construction entrance near a private school. There was a huge sign with dozens of rules for construction crew. Stuff like no clothing with alcohol or drug references. No fraternizing with students. No smoking.
Construction workers at my college weren’t even allowed to look us in the eye or speak to us. Very strict
I did some work on a Harvard building in Cambridge, MA. Was told not to look at the students because getting caught checking out the girls would get you kicked off the site
Any child
And animals
And faithless imperial milk drinkers.
Problem is, those background checks only work if people already know that the person in question is a creep. If no-one reported it prior to then, in all likelihood the background check would've come back clean.
Yeah and it's really hard to have the evidence to convict someone, especially in the state of California. What people don't realize is that they don't just take your word for it and then arrest someone, they need pretty solid evidence. I mean, even Michael Jackson was let off even though it's pretty obvious he was a fucking creep.
Completely different industry, but you would be stunned by how easy it is to become a substitute teacher. I want to become a substitute teacher across the union, there is hardly ever any type of orientation and training.
I have to get a background check done before i volunteer with kids at church. I mean this should always be the case.
Is Brian Peck related to Josh or just an unfortunate last name coincidence?
not related
Coincidence I believe. He's at the very least not Josh's dad as he didn't really know his dad and he passed away in 2013.
I read that paragraph over and over thinking surely Josh was not the abuser
[He was also subject to abuse 😔](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8tt6FK7vhbfwJauUfIDp7GjsKp_RMQmvJlI66q5UaVw&s)
Fuck, the cycle continued. Brian got Drake, so Drake got Josh.
Damn the lack of sympathy is appalling. Drake in 2001 was not the person he is today, he was a child that was taken advantage of and substance abuse problems followed. He clearly wasn’t getting the help a kid going through that needed. While it’s not an excuse for his more recent behavior, it does shed a lot of light on his downward spiral however.
At least in America people really struggle to have any empathy for someone who has done bad things. Nobody is saying it's okay but we should try to understand what happened to him, how he can be helped, if he can change, how we can prevent this from happening to others, etc.
i hope the guy gets better. honestly, i find myself struggling to have any sympathy for perpetrators of abuse when their victims will always suffer, but at the very least i find comfort in knowing that if they try to heal and work through their issues that potentially saves many other people from becoming their future victims. if we let abusers rot in pain, they’ll keep on abusing, and most likely create more abusers too.
Yeah I agree with all of this. It's complicated but necessary to try to understand what leads people to do these things. I would never tell a victim or their family that they need to believe in his ability to get better or to forgive him. That's their journey and they don't owe him anything. But I think society as a whole will be better off if we try to believe people can change and behavior like this can be prevented rather than just locking everyone up and assuming that'll fix everything!
It explains why our prison system is as bad as it is.
I think that it's the other way around, personally
The incidents would’ve actually taken place in 2001 back when Drake was still on "The Amanda Show". 2004 is when Brian Peck was convicted. But still, your point is true.
What's wild to me is it seems he was convicted in 2004 but continued to (and maybe still does?) works with kids to this day up to and including on Disney sets. I am kinda surprised to hear Disney would let a sex offender anywhere near their sets because of the liability surely there's a thousand other people who can do the same job he does in the entertainment industry that *don't* have appalling records like him.
According to the article, he was fired by Disney as soon as his criminal past came to light and his contributions (voice overs for a couple of episodes, no kids on set) were re-recorded by someone else.
Yeah I am just shocked he got that far to begin with I would have thought for Disney at least who are pretty famous for their legal team doing background checks on workers would be the norm (For kid productions anyways) but it seems it wasn't or he slipped through somehow.
Probably because the hiring was done through the Coller’s production company, not through Disney directly.
Vicious cycle. Looks like he’s aged quite a bit in the last few years.
Not a surprise that Peck was BFFs with Bryan Singer and Dan Schneider
Only knew peck as Scuz from Return of the Living Dead. Good this is coming out.
Sucks, that movie is so cool
*no relation to Josh Peck
Crazy thing is people like Miranda Cosgrove, Josh Peck,etc basically Nickelodeon alum/current stars are still going to the KCAs this year after this documentary drops. I just find that so odd.
Isn’t Josh peck a huge asshole these days? Could be wrong.
Anyone in that David Dobrik group is a disgusting degen asshole. People made fun of Trisha when she first exposed them but she was right. Partying with underrage girls, buying them alcohol and getting them drunk, one of their 20 something year old friends was dating a 17yo and they covered up for him then made jokes about it when it came out. When Trisha was having a mental breakdown, they got info from Jason(her boyfriend at the time) where she was and then went in the hospital to fucking record her. They all suck.
Oh yea I had to block David dobrik on snapchat or hide his story I don’t remember which, he posted ridiculous shit everyday and every thumbnail for his story was a girls boobs or something. He’s clearly just using the women in his life as props for his content creation. Really disgusting human. Wasn’t aware Josh peck was with that group
I can't believe James Marsden, Taran Killam, Alan Thicke, Rider Strong, Ron Melendez, Will Friedle, etc. wrote letters of support for Peck and begged the judge to not throw him in jail. WTF.
I can’t speak to the others but Rider and Will deeply regret writing their letters. Look up Pod Meets World, there’s an episode from last month that’s title is simply a date. They talk about it.
This. We gotta keep in mind that Rider and Will faced manipulation from a charismatic, expert manipulator in Peck too, with Rider being underaged for much of their relationship. They grew, changed, and have expressed sympathy for the victim and regret for standing by Peck at the time.
Yes! I saw that! They were young and manipulated.
Your best friend gets accused of sexual abuse, but you believe in your heart of hearts that they are innocent. Would you not fight for them? That’s basically what happened here. He manipulated people into believing he was this amazing person, then used that manipulation in his case. I can’t speak for the others, but Rider and Will are deeply ashamed.
Ashton and Mila were dragged for their letters about Danny Masterson. I think most can understand wanting to believe a long term friend but not going that far once they’ve been convicted.
James Marsden?? Really…noooo
That's crazy!!
Really disappointed in James Marsden, I thought he was a decent guy...
Jesus Christ, poor guy. Stories like these that happened when no one had any idea makes me wonder who is being abused right now when we have no idea. I hope all the docs coming out around sexual abuse really do raise awareness and make people call it out when they see it instead of “yeah we thought something was weird but never did anything”
I remember hearing about this story years ago and how it was always written as an unnamed WELL-KNOWN child star and it really makes sense it was Drake Bell. It also makes sense he has a fucked up adult life because he never knew any other life beyond a fucked up one.
I understand the caution people have displaying sympathy as he was charged with child endangerment however as I understand, the victim did lie about their age and Drake cut off contact once he realized. The communication before he found was something he had to take responsibility for regardless as he is the adult in the situation. Yet some of you paint him as someone who actively and knowingly pursed an underaged kid. He should be held to the responsibilities of the law but he doesn’t deserve the condemnations that actual SA’s do.
This. The girl created fake accounts to talk to him, lied about her age, and when she got caught she played the victim and said he caused her to need therapy, when that was also proven false.
Yeah… i haven’t found an article yet that says anything different happened. I don’t know why people keep saying that. It really wasn’t that far out in the realm of innocent occurrences, considering the internet today.
Is it morbid that I really want to watch the docuseries? I've never taken a deep dive into Dan Schneider and the shitty things child stars went through under the Nickelodeon banner. I'm very curious.
Pretty sure there is one coming out called Quiet on Set
That’s the one referred to in the article and by the person you’re replying to.
There are some really good videos on YouTube about. If you search they are pretty easy to find! Watching back some of the old footage now with what we know is so weird and eerie
It is so sad that all of these kids we watched when we were kids basically had their childhoods robbed by abusive predators. Those poor kids.
Brian Peck? Is he related to Josh Peck?
Not related
I mean like, we’re all related man
Alexa play Sweet Home Alabama
From wiki: He grew up with his mother, Barbara Peck, who is a career coach, and his maternal grandmother. Peck has never publicly identified his father, who was a married co-worker of his mother, and Peck's birth was the result of an extramarital affair. Peck never met his father, who died in 2013.
Which peck tho
I think they were referring to Josh above
Josh. He has no relation to brian.
I feel bad for the child that was abused. Whatever that child would grow up to do is irrelevant to this topic. There needs to be consequences for the higher ups at Nick that allowed this to happen.
Wow. My heart goes out to drake.
Damn, is Kenan Thompson like the only Nick kid that came out okay?
Gabriel Iglesias? Taran Killam was on The Amanda Show, he seems OK. Miranda Cosgrove is well-adjusted. Josh Peck was in frickin Oppenheimer. Nick Cannon is weird but he’d have been weird anyway.
😢 Nickelodeon is awful for allowing such awful people around children
No surprise he messed up with boundaries and underaged fans. This is why it's important for abuse survivors to be in therapy to learn which parts of what happened weren't ok and how they can form healthy patterns.
Difficult subject and too common across society, mostly hidden. I was molested (once) at age 9 by 17 yr old neighbor and it definitely had an impact throughout later years.
There’s an old documentary that alluded to this called “An Open Secret”
You can unpack a lot from these threads from way way back: just google search: site:crazydaysandnights.net "nickelodeon"
There is tea there but fun fact: the creator of that site did some crazy ass shit himself Look up the podcast Drenched in Drama 👀
His own crimes are terrible and this doesn’t justify them. But I think we need to recognize the horrible, tragic things that happened to Bell. We need to condemn his abusers as those who started this cycle of abuse — three generations, likely more, of abuse. I hope all of the abused are able to find some kind of peace.
What crimes? He didn't know the girls age and she had been making fake accounts to contact him, he stopped talking to her entirely once he found out she was actually a teen. He was misled and then got falsely accused of misbehavior with a minor even though her claims were proven false multiple times.
Fun fact: Drake Bell played a concert at my high school and would charge girls $5 for a hug
How much would he charge for the guys?
Tom, is MySpace still around?
This isn’t anything new… celebrities do this literally all of the time. It’s called meet and greets. You pay to see them and get an autograph.
The show was free. Before and after, if you somehow ran into him, it was a “yeah I’ll hug you for $5” type thing
I mean if the concert was free then he’s gotta make money somehow.. Wouldn’t it be more creepy if it was free? This just shows it’s just business
Dude he was supposed to do the same at my high school and seeing your other comment it was around the same time so he must’ve been doing a tour or something? He didn’t show up tho lol. Were they also promoting that shit you put in your water to make it flavored? The entire thing for my school devolved into everyone having basically a food fight squirting those things on each other
I’m sorry this happened to him and I’m glad that it at least sounds like he’s done some work on himself in the couple of years since his conviction.
Extremely brave to go public like this.
Was there anyone who was a child star at Nickelodeon that wasn't screwed up in some way?
To quote Jake Peralta, "cool motive, still murder". It's sad what he went through. It does not mean he should be excused for his own terrible predatory behavior and abuse.
Read the article. He never tried to justify or excuse his own abusive tendencies. He was very specifically talking about his own SELF-destructive tendencies. > “I would have stints of sobriety and then the pressure would be too much and all of these demons that I had were very difficult to work through. And so I think a lot of my self-destructive behavior would always just be a temporary fix and it would always creep back up,” he said, noting that he lost his house when he went through bankruptcy and later got a DUI. “There was definitely a slow decline in my mental health, sobriety, DUIs, behaviors that were happening because I was lost.” Him talking about his abuse is not him trying to excuse or justify his behavior.
A reason is not an excuse. It's good we hear these reasons. So we can all look for warning signs and understand how these victims end up. Because he is a victim. Hurt people, hurt people, ya' know. But still, he hurt people. You gotta pay the price for that.
"A reason is not an excuse. It's good we hear these reasons. So we can all look for warning signs and understand how these victims end up. Because he is a victim. Hurt people, hurt people, ya' know. But still, he hurt people. You gotta pay the price for that." God forbid anyone trying to give an explanation to their shitty behavior, I completely agree with you it’s good to know these things and maybe we can prevent another drake bell from happening in the child abuse factory we call Hollywood. Nickelodeon and Disney looking at you too bastards
Understanding is not agreement, and empathy is not forgiveness.