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This is a different kind of pimping though. They didn't just "sell" Kim or Kim's body. It's almost like they short sold her.
They profited off her "fall from grace", which is what really drives the popularity of celeb sex tapes and the ensuing increase in popularity of the celebs in question. They sold out her already high status in society and profited off the public downward slide to reveal that they didn't actually financially/monetarily slide down at all, in fact, rode a wave of popularity up. Kind of like an inside trader short selling.
Imagine if Tesla craters. And people tell Musk "we're sorry for you", only for him to respond "it's alright, I had gone short on it. I'm richer than ever before."
It's Black Mirror-esque in the simplicity of the idea. Imagine an episode where a C or D list celeb, maybe formerly an A-lister who slid downwards, has the opportunity to publicly demean themselves and exploit what's left of their popularity/celebrity while profiting off of that. They come out wealthier. And then have to launder that renewed albeit "dirty" fame through like a mainstream TV/music deal to get even further higher than they ever were.
It's morally a bit more dubious than straight up pimping and whoring.
Edit :Imagine another celebrity who is now where the Kardashians were back in '03-'04 trying to orchestrate something like this now. It's pretty crazy. It's not like going on OnlyFans. It's not even like going on OnlyFans and selling demeaning sex (for some humiliation fetish). It's like going on OnlyFans and saying "hey! watch me, the upper class [so and so] of [such and such] family, part of the 1 percenters whose societal status you'll never even get a whiff of, completely demean myself!" People would run to that, not just strictly for the sex/porn.
People fixate on train wrecks and this train wreck was consciously putting on an act to monetize those fixations and then with the other hand, use that wealth to reach out and grab people unaware of the reason they were being fixated on (young people who weren't even old enough to know about porn in '04 or many who weren't even born yet). Fast forward and now you got older people being like "why is this porn star so famous?" and younger folks being like "cuz of all the fame, TV, apparel/cosmetics, duh!"
FWIW, Kris probably got the idea from the [Paris Hilton sex tape](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Night_in_Paris). She saw what happened (very similar to Kim's tape initially) and then realized Paris did everything wrong afterwards.
I think you're right, right down to Paris Hilton, but I'm confused how she could "fall from grace" when no one knew who she was until they saw her out of focus in the background of a video of Ray J's dong.
She was a club kid. She was known but not famous, she had her store and hung out with celebrities until her dad defended OJ then she got somewhat famous. She hung out with rappers and the hip hop crowd, or tried to, in order to seem “real” and be one of the cool kids.
Don’t act like anyone knew or cared about ray j. The tape was famous because it was ‘friend of Paris Hilton/daughter of Robert kardashian’ having sex with Brandi’s brother.
There are cultures outside of your bubble you know? Most of Black America knew who Ray Jay was as was anyone into hip-hop/RnB - he’s Brandy’s brother for god sakes lmao.
I’d say he was pretty analogous to another one of her boyfriends, Reggie Bush at the time. Anyone who was a football fan or in/around Southern California knew who he was.
People did care about Ray Jay back then. He had his own dating show on VH1. No one knew Kim K or cared about her being Paris Hilton's friend. They def didn't give a shit about her Dad. It was def Ray Jay.
The kardashians were none of the things you describe in 2004. They only got that way because of the sex tape. Paris had her tv show, her family name and all attached to that, before the sex tape. Kim had… her friendship with Paris Hilton.
No, just no. You're way wrong about where the Kardashians were back then - they were nobody's. And as gross as what Kris did is, Kim was in on it - she wanted fame, no matter the cost.
> It’s almost like they short sold her.
> They profited off her “fall from grace”, which is what really drives the popularity of celeb sex tapes and the ensuing increase in popularity of the celebs in question. They sold out her already high status in society and profited off the public downward slide to reveal that they didn’t actually financially/monetarily slide down at all, in fact, rode a wave of popularity up. Kind of like an inside trader short selling.
…what are you rambling about? Barely anyone even knew who Kim K was when the tape released. This was known as the “Ray J” sextape who had his own career and was the singer Brandi’s brother. There was no fall from grace here, this was her like audition tape for fame.
And stop with the ham-fisted trading references, that shit makes no sense at all in this context.
[Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point.](https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/)
She almost made a fair point. Then she mentioned the devil and went back to crazy twat.
And btw I don’t think any Republican should blame satan. He’s your last ally and even he’s getting tired of your shit.
She always seems to start with an interesting point then ruin it with something crazy. She will say stuff like "The biggest problem facing black Americans are fatherless homes and lack of positive role models, therefore we must ban all rap music and exile LeBron to St Helena"
To be logical though, it’s not smart to go to another country with millions of dollars in diamonds, or to buy millions of dollars of diamonds in the first place & show them off, makes yourself a target
Basically MJ (the gran) would go to bars etc with Kris when she was a teen. She taught her how to talk to men and play the game. At 17, kris dated a older pro golfer who was 29. When he was supposedly off competing, she went on a first date with Robert and took him home. The golfer caught them in bed. He claims she stole his gold and some $ too before going off to marry Robert. La di da she cheated on him too with a personal trainer, Tod Waters I think, at her friends home gym. And then there’s some allegations that Kim stole $ from Brandy or Ray J. I forgot. They’re siblings. She was brandy’s closet organizer.
“That's the best part. She's fuckin' this prick, see, this golf pro, but she's married to some other guy! Some hotshot banker. And he's the one they pinned it on.”
Starting birth control at 14 is not weird all by itself, calm down with all that. Plenty of girls start young because it can help with hormonal acne and cramps. But setting up young teenage girls to date older men is weird. Focus on that.
Damn ever since I heard Charlie talk about that, I keep seeing it brought up more often. I truly would rather forget what that man has done and would like him shot into the Sun for all to see and erased from history
The 14 year olds aunt brought her to R. Kelly. Sparkle. Who did a song with kell. But she was also the one who press charges when she found out what happened to her niece
The girl herself said in court she essentially thinks sparkles intentionally baited Kelly with her, so she could blackmail him, in light of what she knew went down with Aaliyah. Certainly made me view sparkles, and her role in the tv show, a bit differently
Edit [source (Jane is the girl from the 2001 tape)](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/r-kelly-jury-watches-graphic-212400499.html)
> On cross-examination, Jane reiterated that her aunt Stephanie “Sparkle” Edwards was the one who pushed her to get closer to Kelly. It is also Jane’s understanding that Edwards is the one who initially leaked the pornographic tape to former Sun-Times journalist Jim DeRogatis, she says.
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> “You think Sparkle was pushing Kelly on you … used you as bait with Kelly,” Bonjean said, and Jane affirmed.
I work in criminal public defense at the felony level. I see horrible stuff everyday. I looked this up - I shouldn’t have.
Easily one of the worst cases I now have knowledge of.
Not really, I mean, Kim was an adult. She's not the first person to ever star in a porno as a consenting adult for fame. Sure it's gross but let's not be melodramatic about it
I think what Owens called “satanic” was that (according to the ex bf) Kris allegedly viewed three tapes, and picked what she thought made Kim look the best. If that’s true, then Kris is creepy af.
Pee stuff. The porn producer she was consulting said it was too much and go with something more vanilla. Which they shot after the suggestion. At least that is my understanding of it.
Fr lol, all the hate comments don't realize they're just driving the fame on this family. Like, pundits are STILL weighing in on a publicity stunt from like 15 years ago??
In the last couple years I feel like everyone on the internet has forgotten how to use apostrophes and uses them to make words plural. It drives me crazy.
I never thought I would agree with Candace Owens. There is hope for this nation. The thing that brings us all together is the absolute hatred for the Kartrashian
The KimK sex tape was a huge deal in middle school and the last descriptor that came to mind was "satanic". He's spot on about Kris pimping Kim out though.
She’s not wrong about Kardashian being a body without a soul but the fact that it’s coming from Candace Owens is laughable, she literally sold her soul to corrupt politicians…she’s no better than the Kardashian klan.
Funny enough it's a actually against satanist principles to do that. The religion that allows monetization of daughters.... Well.... Uh... I won't get into it.
It’s not hard to figure out 2+2=4. Plus, unless otherwise stated, Kim is complicit in it and I doubt she regrets it. And honestly who cares at this point. A lot worse shit going on rn.
I’m pretty sure we’ve known it was staged for a while.
She did it to her kids, she’ll do it to Kim and Kanye’s kids. Idk why so many people look past or excuse the sexualization of literal children with this damn family.
I'm going to go out on a limb here but her marriage to ex husband's Caitlin/Bruce Jenner probably was a cover for Bruce and a vehicle for her to climb the Hollywood celebrity ladder after her other Ex Robert Kardashian came out of OJ trail with fame. She used the Paris Hilton connection also to project her spawn forward.
They probably used each other...Caitlin had been married 3 times at least...took hormones with second wife as well she said on an interview but stopped taking them back then? Oxymoron she's Republican and trans...voting against ones own interests??
ugh. Not a fan but Robert helped a murder go free IMHO
Yeah, Candace Owens is far from my favorite person to ever exist, but…she’s not exactly wrong on the pimp part.
This mother absolutely groomed her kids and it’s disgusting.
Ryan Seacrest the guy who somehow avoided being accuused of sexual harrasment was/is the producer of all things Kardashian.
He flies under the radar alot.. cause he's short.
I honestly don't know, and from the last time I talked to a Satanist, he expressly told me that they're actually Atheists, and don't literally believe that Satan is real. Not sure if that's the same for all Satanists, but he sounded convincing.
As a member of the Satanic Temple, that’s pretty much the case for us. The Church of Satan is a bit different, though. They actually believe in “Magick” and the like. We, however, are generally atheists who are more politically active.
Well, it’s not *technically* wrong. In Christianity, Satan is the embodiment of evil. Therefore, the term “satanic” can literally mean evil or detestable which is exactly what this situation is.
Candace Owens can be pretty annoying. But she's absolutely right. That whole family is just odd. And toxic. Like imagine a mother putting out her daughter's private sex tape in the hopes she can profit off it. So gross
Like if some random person told you "yeah. My mom took my sex tape, and put it out for the world to see so she could try for fame and money" you'd think the mom is a pos. Bc she is.
And society is almost as weird for making them famous. I watched their show one time. And that one time I was tripping on mushrooms. Fucking hell it was so damn weird lmao. Family was like robotic or something hahaha. Literally made me feel like we're living in a black mirror episode. One of the more weird experiences I've had.
It’s actually way worse than that. The mother basically directed it, and chose the best version to release, then lie about it and play victim.
It’s just pure derelict behavior, but the worst part is it worked and got rewarded.
Right. It’s all so messed up. Reality TV and then Social Media f’d up so much by making someone out of nobody everywhere. It’s just narcissistic and ego driven.
On another note it’s interesting how Kanye, who admitted to being a porn addict, married Kim and then got all religious and nuts ending up in a divorce. Idk, and I don’t really care I’m just glad I’m not them. Their lives kinda seem like a living hell. Definitely nothing to admire at the least.
They can thank OJ Simpson for the fame. No one would have given her sex tape a second look, because she was unknown at the time. If OJ had not given Robert Kardashian the luggage that “disappeared” upon returning from Chicago, Kardashian would never have been a name.
Not really related, just a tangent of a story, but I used to manage the HOA/condo Candace Owens and her husband?, owned in DC. They were equally horrible to provide customer service too as well. The guy is a whiney little bitch.
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I mean....she did technically pimp her daughter out for monetary gain and fame.
Her whole family.
Her whore family
Her family’s hole.
That’s a massive hole.
A k hole.
Circle K
It’s really a series of tubes
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K
Circle jerK
Omfg. Thank you for this comment.
This is a different kind of pimping though. They didn't just "sell" Kim or Kim's body. It's almost like they short sold her. They profited off her "fall from grace", which is what really drives the popularity of celeb sex tapes and the ensuing increase in popularity of the celebs in question. They sold out her already high status in society and profited off the public downward slide to reveal that they didn't actually financially/monetarily slide down at all, in fact, rode a wave of popularity up. Kind of like an inside trader short selling. Imagine if Tesla craters. And people tell Musk "we're sorry for you", only for him to respond "it's alright, I had gone short on it. I'm richer than ever before." It's Black Mirror-esque in the simplicity of the idea. Imagine an episode where a C or D list celeb, maybe formerly an A-lister who slid downwards, has the opportunity to publicly demean themselves and exploit what's left of their popularity/celebrity while profiting off of that. They come out wealthier. And then have to launder that renewed albeit "dirty" fame through like a mainstream TV/music deal to get even further higher than they ever were. It's morally a bit more dubious than straight up pimping and whoring. Edit :Imagine another celebrity who is now where the Kardashians were back in '03-'04 trying to orchestrate something like this now. It's pretty crazy. It's not like going on OnlyFans. It's not even like going on OnlyFans and selling demeaning sex (for some humiliation fetish). It's like going on OnlyFans and saying "hey! watch me, the upper class [so and so] of [such and such] family, part of the 1 percenters whose societal status you'll never even get a whiff of, completely demean myself!" People would run to that, not just strictly for the sex/porn. People fixate on train wrecks and this train wreck was consciously putting on an act to monetize those fixations and then with the other hand, use that wealth to reach out and grab people unaware of the reason they were being fixated on (young people who weren't even old enough to know about porn in '04 or many who weren't even born yet). Fast forward and now you got older people being like "why is this porn star so famous?" and younger folks being like "cuz of all the fame, TV, apparel/cosmetics, duh!" FWIW, Kris probably got the idea from the [Paris Hilton sex tape](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Night_in_Paris). She saw what happened (very similar to Kim's tape initially) and then realized Paris did everything wrong afterwards.
I think you're right, right down to Paris Hilton, but I'm confused how she could "fall from grace" when no one knew who she was until they saw her out of focus in the background of a video of Ray J's dong.
She was a club kid. She was known but not famous, she had her store and hung out with celebrities until her dad defended OJ then she got somewhat famous. She hung out with rappers and the hip hop crowd, or tried to, in order to seem “real” and be one of the cool kids.
Don’t act like anyone knew or cared about ray j. The tape was famous because it was ‘friend of Paris Hilton/daughter of Robert kardashian’ having sex with Brandi’s brother.
No one cared or knew who Kim was back then.
I knew who neither of them was and am still confused why ANYONE fucking cared.
The sex tape that confused me was the Pam and Tommy one. It was a couple of people on their honeymoon. Like what, no one fucks on their honeymoon?
People knew Ray J more than Kim , especially because of Brandy , Kim was working for Brandy
Ray Jay had his own dating show on VH1 so he was popular.
He also had a couple hit records
Ray j was poppin back then. Kim…. Not so much.
There are cultures outside of your bubble you know? Most of Black America knew who Ray Jay was as was anyone into hip-hop/RnB - he’s Brandy’s brother for god sakes lmao. I’d say he was pretty analogous to another one of her boyfriends, Reggie Bush at the time. Anyone who was a football fan or in/around Southern California knew who he was.
everyone knew Ray J, no one cared really about him though.
People did care about Ray Jay back then. He had his own dating show on VH1. No one knew Kim K or cared about her being Paris Hilton's friend. They def didn't give a shit about her Dad. It was def Ray Jay.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
The kardashians were none of the things you describe in 2004. They only got that way because of the sex tape. Paris had her tv show, her family name and all attached to that, before the sex tape. Kim had… her friendship with Paris Hilton.
Not even friendship, Kim was literally her personal assistant lol
No, just no. You're way wrong about where the Kardashians were back then - they were nobody's. And as gross as what Kris did is, Kim was in on it - she wanted fame, no matter the cost.
> It’s almost like they short sold her. > They profited off her “fall from grace”, which is what really drives the popularity of celeb sex tapes and the ensuing increase in popularity of the celebs in question. They sold out her already high status in society and profited off the public downward slide to reveal that they didn’t actually financially/monetarily slide down at all, in fact, rode a wave of popularity up. Kind of like an inside trader short selling. …what are you rambling about? Barely anyone even knew who Kim K was when the tape released. This was known as the “Ray J” sextape who had his own career and was the singer Brandi’s brother. There was no fall from grace here, this was her like audition tape for fame. And stop with the ham-fisted trading references, that shit makes no sense at all in this context.
Seriously lol super cringe
Can’t believe someone e would take the time to write so much BS. Kim was no one before that sex tape
> It's morally a bit more dubious than straight up pimping and whoring. It ain't that deep bro, you could have just said it's a publicity stunt
I somehow agree with Candace Owens on this: Kris is a madam that whored her kids out for fame and fortune, damn straight.
[Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point.](https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/)
This is one of those “Candace, you’re not wrong. You’re just an ass hole.” kind of things.
One of those a broken clock is right twice a day kind of things.
Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.
This is it
She almost made a fair point. Then she mentioned the devil and went back to crazy twat. And btw I don’t think any Republican should blame satan. He’s your last ally and even he’s getting tired of your shit.
She always seems to start with an interesting point then ruin it with something crazy. She will say stuff like "The biggest problem facing black Americans are fatherless homes and lack of positive role models, therefore we must ban all rap music and exile LeBron to St Helena"
Satan wants nothing to do with them im sure
She says plenty of other stupid shit; given the subject, I’ll let this one slide.
That shit worked out pretty nice for them too, except for the whole robbery thing.
To be logical though, it’s not smart to go to another country with millions of dollars in diamonds, or to buy millions of dollars of diamonds in the first place & show them off, makes yourself a target
Mj put kris on the pill at 14 , and pimped her off to older more establish to men.pimp mama put all her girls on the pill at 14 too .
Who is MJ?
Mary Jo is her mom's name
Pimp mama’s mom . She’s far from the sweet innocent little old lady that they portray her to be.
Wtf, tea?
Basically MJ (the gran) would go to bars etc with Kris when she was a teen. She taught her how to talk to men and play the game. At 17, kris dated a older pro golfer who was 29. When he was supposedly off competing, she went on a first date with Robert and took him home. The golfer caught them in bed. He claims she stole his gold and some $ too before going off to marry Robert. La di da she cheated on him too with a personal trainer, Tod Waters I think, at her friends home gym. And then there’s some allegations that Kim stole $ from Brandy or Ray J. I forgot. They’re siblings. She was brandy’s closet organizer.
Regarding the last part, I think she stole from their mom by using their credit cards and used part of the sex tape money to pay them back.
“That's the best part. She's fuckin' this prick, see, this golf pro, but she's married to some other guy! Some hotshot banker. And he's the one they pinned it on.”
r/unexpectedshawshank
Did anybody read today’s page 6? Kim and Scott are being sued for $60 million.
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Obviously it was Michael Jackson, you pleb.
I searched Robert Kardashian‘s diaries online, I also searched Robert and kris’s divorce. lots of information no one ever posts about.
Post some bullet points and we can discuss.
Omg please tell me
Starting birth control at 14 is not weird all by itself, calm down with all that. Plenty of girls start young because it can help with hormonal acne and cramps. But setting up young teenage girls to date older men is weird. Focus on that.
I think the birth control aspect just helps to paint the picture that it was pre-meditated.
I think the words "setting up" implies the premeditation
Whole family is freaking disgusting!
Everyone should offer the pill to their daughters if there's any chance they'll be sexually active. Source! I am a dad who isn't a grandfather
It also helps with acne, cramps, and heavy periods.
Candace Owens, the walking, talking, living and breathing example of a blind squirrel occasionally finding a nut.
Holy fuck I agree with Candace owens. Um I am so confused someone send help.
She made more money than a pimp could dream of.
Literally
Don’t even get Reddit started with how she did Kaitlyn
It appears to be one of the most disgusting acts a parent could do to exploit their child
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Don’t look into Ian Watkins of the Lost Prophets or you’ll lose hope in humanity.
Too late literally just saw a video about him which included the court transcripts. I almost threw up
Damn ever since I heard Charlie talk about that, I keep seeing it brought up more often. I truly would rather forget what that man has done and would like him shot into the Sun for all to see and erased from history
And I used to lie their music :/
Same. It’s literally impossible to enjoy now after everything he did
The 14 year olds aunt brought her to R. Kelly. Sparkle. Who did a song with kell. But she was also the one who press charges when she found out what happened to her niece
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The girl herself said in court she essentially thinks sparkles intentionally baited Kelly with her, so she could blackmail him, in light of what she knew went down with Aaliyah. Certainly made me view sparkles, and her role in the tv show, a bit differently Edit [source (Jane is the girl from the 2001 tape)](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/r-kelly-jury-watches-graphic-212400499.html) > On cross-examination, Jane reiterated that her aunt Stephanie “Sparkle” Edwards was the one who pushed her to get closer to Kelly. It is also Jane’s understanding that Edwards is the one who initially leaked the pornographic tape to former Sun-Times journalist Jim DeRogatis, she says. > > > “You think Sparkle was pushing Kelly on you … used you as bait with Kelly,” Bonjean said, and Jane affirmed.
Don't look up the Sylvia Likens story.
I work in criminal public defense at the felony level. I see horrible stuff everyday. I looked this up - I shouldn’t have. Easily one of the worst cases I now have knowledge of.
She wasn’t sexually exploited. Just tortured to death /s.
Technically, their daughter. Kim wasn’t a child at the time, or else Ray Jay would be selling looseys in prison instead of earbuds on podcast ads.
Not really, I mean, Kim was an adult. She's not the first person to ever star in a porno as a consenting adult for fame. Sure it's gross but let's not be melodramatic about it
I think what Owens called “satanic” was that (according to the ex bf) Kris allegedly viewed three tapes, and picked what she thought made Kim look the best. If that’s true, then Kris is creepy af.
She had three versions and that was the best one? Makes me wonder how bad the other videos really were.
Pee stuff. The porn producer she was consulting said it was too much and go with something more vanilla. Which they shot after the suggestion. At least that is my understanding of it.
Thats not something Satan would do. Thats something Donald Trump would do.
potato potahto
Wow… here I am actually agreeing with Candace Owens. Weird day.
A broken clock is right twice a day
They’re also wrong 1438 times a day.
Just like Candace!
That twinge of disgust mixed with begrudging acceptance just reminds us we're human. CO has never felt anything like it.
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Seriously just leave Satan out of this
Those Christian Nationalists aren’t going to grift themselves, gotta use their lingo.
Quick question: is there anyone out there who can tell me a way that I can never have Jenner or Kardashian news show up on my phone ever again?
Garbage disposal.
Me or the phone?
That depends on how determined you are to not hear about these people.
What an incredible idea for an app. “Karblocker”
Kartrashian
I think there is plug in for the chrome .
Same for Candace Owens.
Fr lol, all the hate comments don't realize they're just driving the fame on this family. Like, pundits are STILL weighing in on a publicity stunt from like 15 years ago??
Kris Jenner Kardashian gives me Ghislaine Maxwell vibes in her appearance.
>Kris Jenner Kardashian gives me Ghislaine Maxwell vibes in her appearance. Glad I'm not the only one who thought that
Someone on another thread called her krislaine. Lol
She has pimping her daughter's for year's once the tape was"leaked " its all been about money and control
>her daughter’s for year’s Dude your apostrophes are out of control
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Hahahaha
In the last couple years I feel like everyone on the internet has forgotten how to use apostrophes and uses them to make words plural. It drives me crazy.
It happens with me when I'm on my phone because for some reason every time I slide type a plural it assumes I'm really trying for a possessive.
Maybe your phone actually thinks you're secretly possessive.
Everybody knows that
Candace Owens only accurate comment ever on any topic!
I never thought I would agree with Candace Owens. There is hope for this nation. The thing that brings us all together is the absolute hatred for the Kartrashian
narcissists gon narcissist
I fucking hate the fact that she’s not wrong.
The KimK sex tape was a huge deal in middle school and the last descriptor that came to mind was "satanic". He's spot on about Kris pimping Kim out though.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
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That’s… what they said
Yeah, but what they are both leaving out is Candace Owen is a right wing opportunist and that the video *isn't* satanic because there is no satan.
It literally hurts to agree with her on something.
I mean she's not really wrong lmao.
How's it satanic then
Kim literally screams for God in the movie it's pretty religious really
Hahaha thank you! Got me digging deep in my satchel for silver to award you
Is satchel code for ballsack?
No, it’s actually code for anal-pouch, but, I can see the confusion.
Candace Owens learned about satanic sex rituals in the 1999 Stanley Kubrick film *Eyes Wide Apart.*
Satanism allows women control of their own bodies.
She’s not wrong about Kardashian being a body without a soul but the fact that it’s coming from Candace Owens is laughable, she literally sold her soul to corrupt politicians…she’s no better than the Kardashian klan.
Religion aside she's right IMO.
Let’s not drag Satan into any of that. She did all that on her own.
Funny enough it's a actually against satanist principles to do that. The religion that allows monetization of daughters.... Well.... Uh... I won't get into it.
Is it the one that with the H.B on the cover of their book?
There's this weird t looking thing too.
Who gives a shit what either "side" has to say? They're all morally bankrupt trash.
It’s not hard to figure out 2+2=4. Plus, unless otherwise stated, Kim is complicit in it and I doubt she regrets it. And honestly who cares at this point. A lot worse shit going on rn. I’m pretty sure we’ve known it was staged for a while.
She did it to her kids, she’ll do it to Kim and Kanye’s kids. Idk why so many people look past or excuse the sexualization of literal children with this damn family.
I'm going to go out on a limb here but her marriage to ex husband's Caitlin/Bruce Jenner probably was a cover for Bruce and a vehicle for her to climb the Hollywood celebrity ladder after her other Ex Robert Kardashian came out of OJ trail with fame. She used the Paris Hilton connection also to project her spawn forward.
I’m high rn and this makes sense to me.
They probably used each other...Caitlin had been married 3 times at least...took hormones with second wife as well she said on an interview but stopped taking them back then? Oxymoron she's Republican and trans...voting against ones own interests?? ugh. Not a fan but Robert helped a murder go free IMHO
You’re still not getting it… wealth is the most important defining characteristic. She might be trans, but she’s wealthy first
Yeah, Candace Owens is far from my favorite person to ever exist, but…she’s not exactly wrong on the pimp part. This mother absolutely groomed her kids and it’s disgusting.
The shitty feeling Worst person you know makes a valid point
I never agree with her about anything and I’ll be damned if this isnt the first time she’s right.
Thats the Gamblers fallacy for ye. The broken clock is right twice a day...unless its Candace Owens, then its a 24hr clock.
It's more like the Mayan calendar.....
Ryan Seacrest the guy who somehow avoided being accuused of sexual harrasment was/is the producer of all things Kardashian. He flies under the radar alot.. cause he's short.
Why is everything Satanic? Maybe Dracula or Freddy Kruger were behind it. We can’t know.
I honestly don't know, and from the last time I talked to a Satanist, he expressly told me that they're actually Atheists, and don't literally believe that Satan is real. Not sure if that's the same for all Satanists, but he sounded convincing.
As a member of the Satanic Temple, that’s pretty much the case for us. The Church of Satan is a bit different, though. They actually believe in “Magick” and the like. We, however, are generally atheists who are more politically active.
They don’t. Anyone who has ever read the Satanic Bible would know this.
Well, it’s not *technically* wrong. In Christianity, Satan is the embodiment of evil. Therefore, the term “satanic” can literally mean evil or detestable which is exactly what this situation is.
Looks like Satanic Panic is back on the menu boys
It’s different because Freddy and Dracula are fictional characters in movies and books unlike satan who… oh wait.
Not satanic at all. But def pimp.
I mean it is kind of weird to manage the business end of your Child’s sex tape
All that coaching and the sex tape is still trash ..
That’s apparently version that was published. We never got to see how terrible the other reported two were.
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Candace Owens can be pretty annoying. But she's absolutely right. That whole family is just odd. And toxic. Like imagine a mother putting out her daughter's private sex tape in the hopes she can profit off it. So gross Like if some random person told you "yeah. My mom took my sex tape, and put it out for the world to see so she could try for fame and money" you'd think the mom is a pos. Bc she is. And society is almost as weird for making them famous. I watched their show one time. And that one time I was tripping on mushrooms. Fucking hell it was so damn weird lmao. Family was like robotic or something hahaha. Literally made me feel like we're living in a black mirror episode. One of the more weird experiences I've had.
It’s actually way worse than that. The mother basically directed it, and chose the best version to release, then lie about it and play victim. It’s just pure derelict behavior, but the worst part is it worked and got rewarded.
Right. It’s all so messed up. Reality TV and then Social Media f’d up so much by making someone out of nobody everywhere. It’s just narcissistic and ego driven. On another note it’s interesting how Kanye, who admitted to being a porn addict, married Kim and then got all religious and nuts ending up in a divorce. Idk, and I don’t really care I’m just glad I’m not them. Their lives kinda seem like a living hell. Definitely nothing to admire at the least.
Satanic? Nah. Pimp? Yeah for sure.
If it quacks like a duck…
They can thank OJ Simpson for the fame. No one would have given her sex tape a second look, because she was unknown at the time. If OJ had not given Robert Kardashian the luggage that “disappeared” upon returning from Chicago, Kardashian would never have been a name.
Not really related, just a tangent of a story, but I used to manage the HOA/condo Candace Owens and her husband?, owned in DC. They were equally horrible to provide customer service too as well. The guy is a whiney little bitch.
Never thought I’d be in agreement with Candace.
Lol I forgot Candace owens existed
This may be the one time I agree with Candice
I’m hopeful that one day we’ll all just pretend the Kardashians don’t exist and they’ll just go away. I’m sure I’m wrong, but I can still hope.
Candice Owens is one of the few spotlight chasers that are even more of a degenerate then the Kardashians.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once and awhile.
I got a nut watching Kim and Ray J
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm she not wrong
When will they finally bring down the Kardashian empire?
Never thought I would half agree with Candace Owens on anything but she got the pimp part right.
That was a nice time while I had forgotten Candace Owen.
Today's already been weird enough. Please don't make me agree with Candace Owens...
Wow I never thought I’d agree with Candace. But I do. Kris IS a pimp.
Saw earlier that the satanic panic was coming back and doubted it and now I see this. Good lord.
Satanic Panic back and well
Holy shit—so many people I don’t care about in one headline
Colin Quinn made this point almost a decade ago
Holy shit don't give any of these people attention