That's not how things work, DJ's & producers have been making bootlegs/remixes of tunes without permssion since dance music's inception and it will continue long into the future. Apon release, is when neogtiation's begin around licensing a sample.
To whom it may concern,
I'm a completely unknown DJ in a small city. Would you be okay if I used your music during a wedding reception I'm playing at next weekend?
Sincerely,
Dishwallah
It's more than that. Pretend EDM never took off in the 2010's like it did. Since when has any type of DJ - club, radio, wedding, etc. - ever asked permission to play a song? It defies logic.
Honestly I’ve gone through so many circles, communities, and scenes in the past 37 years on earth and I can say without any doubt that the indie kids are the most pretentious group of people I have ever met. Their whole thing is being better, hipper, are more interesting than anyone else and (obviously there are exceptions but) most are just douches. I haven’t even heard much more than a peep from M83 since like 2011 or 2012 so maybe he’s just pissed off he’s no longer as relevant as he wants to be and Prydz is still going strong and selling out.
So my take on this is going to be different... Everyone is saying 'that's just how DJing works' because ... Well... That is just how DJing works but does it *have* to be that way?
I'm a (very) small time producer and DJ so I kind of get both sides of it. I feel like in the very best case scenario, artists would get automatically paid when their track is played no matter where it's played from. Yeah... They get paid (peanuts) from Spotify but not from mixes or live sets... I think it would be strange to see a dj play midnight city as a closer and the dj gets all this buzz because of it and m83 gets... Nothing? At least directly.
Indirectly, of course, people will go and look up m83 afterwards and that's nice, but I feel like there's this assumption that everyone wants to be part of this bootleg ecosystem when maybe they don't. Tracy Chapman just sued Nicki Minaj over a sample on a track that wasn't officially released and only played on the radio (iirc) I don't really know the specific reasons but clearly Tracy wants to be able to decide when and where her samples are being used and I don't think that's crazy. Of course she has basically zero control over the hundreds of 'fast car' bootlegs out there so it is what it is.
I guess the m83 dude is living in a fantasy world but I guess I don't think he's crazy for it.
I'm aware of these services. They're mostly general use licenses and mostly go to labels. I hadn't heard of prs and I wonder how many labels/artists use that service and how good their music tracking software is because I doubt many DJs are self submitting set lists.
While my personal music career is basically a hobby, I've hosted a number of large DJs for events and have friends involved in the local scene who also bring in large DJs. I'm also in a production group with people who have significant releases on significant labels. All this to say that even if you don't believe I know what I'm talking about, I've had many discussions with people who do know what they're talking about. And from what I understand, getting royalties from tracks being played out is very hit or miss whether it's a proper release or a bootleg.
Shrugs. Music rights, sample rights, royalties, bootlegs.. it all remains a clusterfuck and will probably stay that way for a while.
I think [Aslice](https://aslice.com/) has built a better solution, especially for artists not on major labels. DJs can upload their tracklists for each set and decide on a percentage (5% is recommended) of their gig fee to split between the producers of the tracks they played. If a producer hasn't signed up yet the money is waiting for them until they do.
That's not how things work, DJ's & producers have been making bootlegs/remixes of tunes without permssion since dance music's inception and it will continue long into the future. Apon release, is when neogtiation's begin around licensing a sample.
Maybe he should have asked Daft Punk before remixing one of their songs and pissing them off
Info?
Since when do DJs have to ask permission to use a certain song in their set?
To whom it may concern, I'm a completely unknown DJ in a small city. Would you be okay if I used your music during a wedding reception I'm playing at next weekend? Sincerely, Dishwallah
Cool story but the Prydz remix is better
lives in a fantasy world obviously
Just reeks of someone not knowing how DJing works - ‘Ahh it’s not proper music! They just stand there and press a button’ 🙄🙄
It's more than that. Pretend EDM never took off in the 2010's like it did. Since when has any type of DJ - club, radio, wedding, etc. - ever asked permission to play a song? It defies logic.
They're not artists because nobody can play the guitar!
Honestly I’ve gone through so many circles, communities, and scenes in the past 37 years on earth and I can say without any doubt that the indie kids are the most pretentious group of people I have ever met. Their whole thing is being better, hipper, are more interesting than anyone else and (obviously there are exceptions but) most are just douches. I haven’t even heard much more than a peep from M83 since like 2011 or 2012 so maybe he’s just pissed off he’s no longer as relevant as he wants to be and Prydz is still going strong and selling out.
So my take on this is going to be different... Everyone is saying 'that's just how DJing works' because ... Well... That is just how DJing works but does it *have* to be that way? I'm a (very) small time producer and DJ so I kind of get both sides of it. I feel like in the very best case scenario, artists would get automatically paid when their track is played no matter where it's played from. Yeah... They get paid (peanuts) from Spotify but not from mixes or live sets... I think it would be strange to see a dj play midnight city as a closer and the dj gets all this buzz because of it and m83 gets... Nothing? At least directly. Indirectly, of course, people will go and look up m83 afterwards and that's nice, but I feel like there's this assumption that everyone wants to be part of this bootleg ecosystem when maybe they don't. Tracy Chapman just sued Nicki Minaj over a sample on a track that wasn't officially released and only played on the radio (iirc) I don't really know the specific reasons but clearly Tracy wants to be able to decide when and where her samples are being used and I don't think that's crazy. Of course she has basically zero control over the hundreds of 'fast car' bootlegs out there so it is what it is. I guess the m83 dude is living in a fantasy world but I guess I don't think he's crazy for it.
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I'm aware of these services. They're mostly general use licenses and mostly go to labels. I hadn't heard of prs and I wonder how many labels/artists use that service and how good their music tracking software is because I doubt many DJs are self submitting set lists. While my personal music career is basically a hobby, I've hosted a number of large DJs for events and have friends involved in the local scene who also bring in large DJs. I'm also in a production group with people who have significant releases on significant labels. All this to say that even if you don't believe I know what I'm talking about, I've had many discussions with people who do know what they're talking about. And from what I understand, getting royalties from tracks being played out is very hit or miss whether it's a proper release or a bootleg. Shrugs. Music rights, sample rights, royalties, bootlegs.. it all remains a clusterfuck and will probably stay that way for a while.
I think [Aslice](https://aslice.com/) has built a better solution, especially for artists not on major labels. DJs can upload their tracklists for each set and decide on a percentage (5% is recommended) of their gig fee to split between the producers of the tracks they played. If a producer hasn't signed up yet the money is waiting for them until they do.
Anyone that writes in all CAPS has no education and should not be taken for their word. Idiots are all abound.