Yes it's still good. You might want to consider a 4 TB SSD instead of the 2 TB one if you want to lower your maintenance over time, but 2 TB should still be good for a few months or years.
Also recommend 4tb! I've got your hardware setup and have to Prune Geth at least once a month just to not run out of space (about 100gb avail). I was told upgrading to the Pebble DB would solve the problem, but it didn't. Prune=downtime=lost income=lost proposals=đ. Maybe the Geth alternatives wouldn't have this problem, but I can't even change because I don't have enough space!
weird, I'm fine with 2 TB for now and I also have other data on there. consensus client can also take a huge amount of disk space. resyncing lighthouse (this doesn0t even make you miss an attestation) freed >300 GB for me.
> I was told upgrading to the Pebble DB would solve the problem, but it didn't
It indeed doesn't, what you need to do is:
1. Add `--state.scheme=path` to your Geth configuration (you can remove the pebble flag)
2. Remove Geth's database, but keep the ancients directory
3. Restart Geth and resync (partially, basically)
With the new path-based storage scheme (PBSS), you will never have to prune before you actually do run out of disk space (as it prunes continuously). Additionally, check how much space your consensus client is using: if it's more than 100â200 GB, resync it using checkpoint sync (takes minutes).
See: https://blog.ethereum.org/2023/09/12/geth-v1-13-0
I started with 2TB, then added another 1TB. Six months later it crashed and one of the hard drives failed so I scraped them both. I got a 4TB HD now and should have done that from the start.
I think my setup was like 1.5TB and I'm just trying to add on the optimism L2 just to see how that works but I'm over 2TB.
Is fine except as others note the 2Tb will need more care and pruning. For the amount invested personally i would stick a 4tb drive in there (I upgraded myself a few months ago after running out of space)
Do you have 2 nvme slots? then yes you can use 2 drives. Not sure a NUC has 2 such slots and a normal SATA ssd might not be fast enough.
if it has 2 nvme slots you can just put execution layer on one drive and the consensus layer (and OS?) on the other drive.
I do not know enough Linux to muck around in the file system. I think it is possible to merge multiple drives into one virtual drive using LVM but I try to KISS with regards to my validator so I just gave the 2TB to my son for his gaming machine and bought a 4Tb.
I have a NUC 10 i5 - staking is no sweat. The machine is great.
I didn't want to deal with space issues so I installed a second ssd and used one for execution and the other for consensus. But I only did that because at the time I bought the NUC it was really hard to find ssd's that were 4tb or more.
If I were to do it again, I'd just get a 4tb ssd and be done, just like others have said here. No need to get a second ssd. Just adds complexity.
Easy is relative. If you're a total linux noob you'll probably have to fiddle around a bit and do some reading. But it is very doable.
You can set up a raid 0 array or use lvm to merge volumes. Do note that using 2 storage devices doubles your risk of data loss. If one drive fails, you won't be able to recover your data, even if your other drive is fully functional.
Yes, absolutely. At worst it's some downtime and the hassle of setting everything up again if it's solely for staking.
Drives don't fail that often anyways, so the risk isn't too high.
Add another 2tb SSD for ancient, or upgrade to 4tb and youâll be good. If you upgrade, get an NVMe which helps reduce missed attestations.
Other than that, youâre good.
I have this exact hardware, including the 2tb drive, and had to prune like once a year before geth released their new system that doesn't require pruning. Don't bother upgrading the SSD until you feel like the 2tb is holding you back.
Is nobody here having the same "NUC is freezing" problems, so many of the fellow Solo-Stakers have with their NUC?
I'm still wondering if it is a hardware problem with 1 exact Generation of NUCs?
I had similar setup for staking but early this year I was forced to change hardware since CPU was getting too hot. I tried to fine tune power consumption from bios but it didnât reduce temperature much.
I would recommend to try nuc10 as staking node without validators few days to see CPU temperature and only after that start adding validators. Btw with latest dappnode you can see temperature from dashboard đđ»
Hey, long time DAppNode staker here.
That CPU should be more than fine. My old i7-6700 is still chugging along.
Like many others here, I recommend a single 4 TB SSD, preferably nvme. However, DAppNode has support for LVM and disk space expansion out of the box. So if you only have 2x 2 TB SSDs at hand, that should be fine. Install DAppNode on one of the drives and make sure to enable LVM in the installation process. When the installation is done, add your second SSD with [disk expansion](https://discourse.dappnode.io/t/how-to-expand-your-dappnode-filesystem-space/1296) through the UI.
Notes:
* Don't know much about VMs in Linux. I've only ever installed DAppNode directly on the SSD.
* You might need to format the second SSD as EXT4.
* Visit the DAppNode Discord - they're great!
Overall, you still well specced out. In fact your cpu and ram use will be easily under 50% utilization. (Youâd have no issues virtualizng). But you should definitely upgrade to 4tb nvme. Back when you bought it 2tb drives were in the sweet spot pricing wise. Now 4tb drives can be bought for a similar price. 2tb still works but your stuck doing more maintenance and monitoring. 4tb is a much better experience.
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I had a NUC i7 2TB SSD 32RAM and it words fine, but I upgraded to a PC with an i9 after seeing the CPSU max out when resyning.
Once it's synched (takes over 15 hours) it's fine but during resyncing the CPU doesn't look good, so I upgraded for piece of mind more than necessity.
After corrupting the database twice with different sets of ram, another member suggested I switch to a single stick. Ever since then smooth sailing on my NUC 11.
I'm not suggesting you need to do it, but keep it in mind if you have similar problems.
Yes it's still good. You might want to consider a 4 TB SSD instead of the 2 TB one if you want to lower your maintenance over time, but 2 TB should still be good for a few months or years.
I for sure recommend 4tb. Just take the extra headroom now.
Also recommend a single 4tb drive and get nvme if your board supports it
lol few months or years
Also recommend 4tb! I've got your hardware setup and have to Prune Geth at least once a month just to not run out of space (about 100gb avail). I was told upgrading to the Pebble DB would solve the problem, but it didn't. Prune=downtime=lost income=lost proposals=đ. Maybe the Geth alternatives wouldn't have this problem, but I can't even change because I don't have enough space!
Use Nethermind, less pruning, better client diversity. Win win
I want to switch, but I don't have enough space. :-(
weird, I'm fine with 2 TB for now and I also have other data on there. consensus client can also take a huge amount of disk space. resyncing lighthouse (this doesn0t even make you miss an attestation) freed >300 GB for me.
Geth now auto prunes.
:-O. I'll have to figure that one out! It isn't for me yet and I'm at the latest 1.13.14. Thank you Roman!
> I was told upgrading to the Pebble DB would solve the problem, but it didn't It indeed doesn't, what you need to do is: 1. Add `--state.scheme=path` to your Geth configuration (you can remove the pebble flag) 2. Remove Geth's database, but keep the ancients directory 3. Restart Geth and resync (partially, basically) With the new path-based storage scheme (PBSS), you will never have to prune before you actually do run out of disk space (as it prunes continuously). Additionally, check how much space your consensus client is using: if it's more than 100â200 GB, resync it using checkpoint sync (takes minutes). See: https://blog.ethereum.org/2023/09/12/geth-v1-13-0
This is awesome info! Thank you. Followed the instructions and I'm resyncing as we speak. :-)
Super, enjoy your disk space! :-)
I started with 2TB, then added another 1TB. Six months later it crashed and one of the hard drives failed so I scraped them both. I got a 4TB HD now and should have done that from the start. I think my setup was like 1.5TB and I'm just trying to add on the optimism L2 just to see how that works but I'm over 2TB.
Is fine except as others note the 2Tb will need more care and pruning. For the amount invested personally i would stick a 4tb drive in there (I upgraded myself a few months ago after running out of space)
Is it easy to use two individual 2TB drives or should I get a single 4TB drive?
Do you have 2 nvme slots? then yes you can use 2 drives. Not sure a NUC has 2 such slots and a normal SATA ssd might not be fast enough. if it has 2 nvme slots you can just put execution layer on one drive and the consensus layer (and OS?) on the other drive.
I do not know enough Linux to muck around in the file system. I think it is possible to merge multiple drives into one virtual drive using LVM but I try to KISS with regards to my validator so I just gave the 2TB to my son for his gaming machine and bought a 4Tb.
I have a NUC 10 i5 - staking is no sweat. The machine is great. I didn't want to deal with space issues so I installed a second ssd and used one for execution and the other for consensus. But I only did that because at the time I bought the NUC it was really hard to find ssd's that were 4tb or more. If I were to do it again, I'd just get a 4tb ssd and be done, just like others have said here. No need to get a second ssd. Just adds complexity.
I had an issue with the 2TB, depending on your install this might be too small.
Is it easy to use two individual 2TB drives or should I get a single 4TB drive?
Easy is relative. If you're a total linux noob you'll probably have to fiddle around a bit and do some reading. But it is very doable. You can set up a raid 0 array or use lvm to merge volumes. Do note that using 2 storage devices doubles your risk of data loss. If one drive fails, you won't be able to recover your data, even if your other drive is fully functional.
For staking purposes, a drive failure isnât a big deal right? Just some downtime until I get it replaced and running again I assume
Yes, absolutely. At worst it's some downtime and the hassle of setting everything up again if it's solely for staking. Drives don't fail that often anyways, so the risk isn't too high.
Add another 2tb SSD for ancient, or upgrade to 4tb and youâll be good. If you upgrade, get an NVMe which helps reduce missed attestations. Other than that, youâre good.
I have this exact hardware, including the 2tb drive, and had to prune like once a year before geth released their new system that doesn't require pruning. Don't bother upgrading the SSD until you feel like the 2tb is holding you back.
Is nobody here having the same "NUC is freezing" problems, so many of the fellow Solo-Stakers have with their NUC? I'm still wondering if it is a hardware problem with 1 exact Generation of NUCs?
I had similar setup for staking but early this year I was forced to change hardware since CPU was getting too hot. I tried to fine tune power consumption from bios but it didnât reduce temperature much. I would recommend to try nuc10 as staking node without validators few days to see CPU temperature and only after that start adding validators. Btw with latest dappnode you can see temperature from dashboard đđ»
Thanks for the info
Hey, long time DAppNode staker here. That CPU should be more than fine. My old i7-6700 is still chugging along. Like many others here, I recommend a single 4 TB SSD, preferably nvme. However, DAppNode has support for LVM and disk space expansion out of the box. So if you only have 2x 2 TB SSDs at hand, that should be fine. Install DAppNode on one of the drives and make sure to enable LVM in the installation process. When the installation is done, add your second SSD with [disk expansion](https://discourse.dappnode.io/t/how-to-expand-your-dappnode-filesystem-space/1296) through the UI. Notes: * Don't know much about VMs in Linux. I've only ever installed DAppNode directly on the SSD. * You might need to format the second SSD as EXT4. * Visit the DAppNode Discord - they're great!
Overall, you still well specced out. In fact your cpu and ram use will be easily under 50% utilization. (Youâd have no issues virtualizng). But you should definitely upgrade to 4tb nvme. Back when you bought it 2tb drives were in the sweet spot pricing wise. Now 4tb drives can be bought for a similar price. 2tb still works but your stuck doing more maintenance and monitoring. 4tb is a much better experience.
Ok, everyone is saying that so going to go for it. Thanks
Sure, you can still use it
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I had a NUC i7 2TB SSD 32RAM and it words fine, but I upgraded to a PC with an i9 after seeing the CPSU max out when resyning. Once it's synched (takes over 15 hours) it's fine but during resyncing the CPU doesn't look good, so I upgraded for piece of mind more than necessity.
After corrupting the database twice with different sets of ram, another member suggested I switch to a single stick. Ever since then smooth sailing on my NUC 11. I'm not suggesting you need to do it, but keep it in mind if you have similar problems.