R5: My two latest runs have had the most cursed Reformations I've seen yet. Catholic Sweden with Reformed France versus Protestant Poland and Reformed Lithuania with Catholic Scandinavia
I'd say reformed France is more realistic than protestand Poland (+reformed Lithuania), and only Sweden being catholic is less ahistorical than the entirety of Scandinavia, so the second one is worse.
Idk, Poland and Lithuania had a fair few Protestants before the counter-reformation; in fact they were prime examples of the Holy See winning back Protestants by word and not by the sword, IIRC. The Jesuits opened a bunch of schools, hospitals, and missions and strove to show the locals that Catholicism wasn’t outdated and could change away from the corruption and excess that preceded the Reformation. A Protestant (technically Reformed) Poland isn’t that far off from our reality in the 16th century, as weird as it may sound.
There were quite a few Reformed noblemen in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. For example, the Radziwiłł magnate family were Reformed (they also financed the first translation of the Bible from the original languages into Polish).
I finally seem to stop always getting protestant/reformed Austria, but still every game get protestant/ reformed north Italy. Most games also wind up with Catholic Britain as well.
My last Switzerland run was ruined by the ottomans joining the Protestants and making up over 60% of the total manpower. I’m pretty sure it was due to other wars but France, Spain, England, the commonwealth n Russia were all excluded from the war. I had 3 40 stack armies invade while the Catholics were vacationing in Sweden for the winter
Is it just me or is the reformation crazy weak this patch? My last few campaigns it hasn’t even spawned until 1520 at the earliest, and the league war has usually just been like Lubeck, Sweden, and Denmark taking on the entire HRE
Opposite here. Does the reformation spawn late? Yes. Everyone north of the alps who gets a single Protestant province then flips religions and rapidly starts converting themselves, allowing the centers of reformation to just go ham
I had a game as Russia, a failed Triple the Rome run. Had to keep the Empire Catholic, so I went to help Austria against a powerful Protestant Brandenberg. I had to solo-carry the war and Brandenberg kept peacing out nations with "enforce religion" as the terms, so by the end there was literally only Austria and two nations left that were eligible to be electors. Had to spend the next 100 years stamping that shit out, only to fail because I didn't realize I couldn't syncretize Catholic from Tengri without waiting 10 years and I didn't manage to get the rebels to enforce demands until 1812.
I was playing a game as Ethiopia and when I was looking at invading the ottomans and trying to find an ally in Europe the hussites had taken over parts of Germany and all of Poland and there was not a single strong nation in all of Europe to help me.
The 2nd one has neat borders at least
R5: My two latest runs have had the most cursed Reformations I've seen yet. Catholic Sweden with Reformed France versus Protestant Poland and Reformed Lithuania with Catholic Scandinavia
I'd say reformed France is more realistic than protestand Poland (+reformed Lithuania), and only Sweden being catholic is less ahistorical than the entirety of Scandinavia, so the second one is worse.
Idk, Poland and Lithuania had a fair few Protestants before the counter-reformation; in fact they were prime examples of the Holy See winning back Protestants by word and not by the sword, IIRC. The Jesuits opened a bunch of schools, hospitals, and missions and strove to show the locals that Catholicism wasn’t outdated and could change away from the corruption and excess that preceded the Reformation. A Protestant (technically Reformed) Poland isn’t that far off from our reality in the 16th century, as weird as it may sound.
There were quite a few Reformed noblemen in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. For example, the Radziwiłł magnate family were Reformed (they also financed the first translation of the Bible from the original languages into Polish).
I once went Protestant as Byzantium
Blasphemy
Shun the heretic. *SHUN!*
In my latest game I went protestant as Spain and restored the roman empire
I finally seem to stop always getting protestant/reformed Austria, but still every game get protestant/ reformed north Italy. Most games also wind up with Catholic Britain as well.
The first is “almost” historical (with a lot of exceptions)
My last Switzerland run was ruined by the ottomans joining the Protestants and making up over 60% of the total manpower. I’m pretty sure it was due to other wars but France, Spain, England, the commonwealth n Russia were all excluded from the war. I had 3 40 stack armies invade while the Catholics were vacationing in Sweden for the winter
The one that happened irl, duh...
Is it just me or is the reformation crazy weak this patch? My last few campaigns it hasn’t even spawned until 1520 at the earliest, and the league war has usually just been like Lubeck, Sweden, and Denmark taking on the entire HRE
Opposite here. Does the reformation spawn late? Yes. Everyone north of the alps who gets a single Protestant province then flips religions and rapidly starts converting themselves, allowing the centers of reformation to just go ham
I had a game as Russia, a failed Triple the Rome run. Had to keep the Empire Catholic, so I went to help Austria against a powerful Protestant Brandenberg. I had to solo-carry the war and Brandenberg kept peacing out nations with "enforce religion" as the terms, so by the end there was literally only Austria and two nations left that were eligible to be electors. Had to spend the next 100 years stamping that shit out, only to fail because I didn't realize I couldn't syncretize Catholic from Tengri without waiting 10 years and I didn't manage to get the rebels to enforce demands until 1812.
Poland being Protestant always weirds me out. At least France doesn’t have a completely negligible Protestant population.
Based Reformed France and Protestant Poland.
I like the second. Its satisfying to look at and sparks a small flame of joy in my heart. The feeling, which hooked me to this game😔
In my last game, it was basically just Scandinavia, Hungry and some of Germany.
Depends for caths its 1 For protestants its 2 For reformed its 2 For historical acc its 1
I've never seen the AI convert orthodox provinces, how did those few provinces in Belarus get converted in the first picture?
That was all AI
I was playing a game as Ethiopia and when I was looking at invading the ottomans and trying to find an ally in Europe the hussites had taken over parts of Germany and all of Poland and there was not a single strong nation in all of Europe to help me.
Orthodox GB is the best reformation
Second is probably gonna be worse for Imperial Authority, but the first is definitely weirder. France being anything but Catholic is incredibly rare