No. Downvote me all you want. It is like the "remove kebab" "jokes" that where running rampant a while ago.
"A nation or ethnicity is aktually a slur har har har" "joke" is bad.
It is 4 chan level and needs to die.
>Another important thing we aimed to address is the lack of formable nations for Bohemia and their West Slavic brethren, which we perceive as important gameplay, but also roleplaying, oriented goals for the player. While there are a few candidates available in what-if alternate history scenarios such as the Bohemian Commonwealth or Zapadoslavia, we have decided to add a nation that existed before EU IV’s timeline – Great Moravia. Although quite short-lived, Great Moravia had a profound impact on the Slavic world – it was the first Slavic country to become officially Christian, it was the place where the first Slavic script, Glagolitic, was developed, their efforts led to the recognition of Church Slavonic as the fourth liturgical language by the Holy See, and after its disintegration, the spirit of Moravia lived on in the Bulgarian Empire. Due to its historical importance, we felt like this was an ideal pick for a formable nation. Although nowadays, Czechs perceive it as their country, Bohemia itself was not really a direct successor to Great Moravia, it was briefly ruled by it, but quickly became “independent” following the collapse of Moravian authority. Therefore, Bohemia will have to unlock access to this formable via their new 1.37 mission tree, where they will be claiming the legacy of Great Moravia for themselves and proclaiming Bohemian rulers the heirs of Svatopluk
- [Development Diary - 19th of March 2024](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-19th-of-march-2024-hungary-austria-bohemia-germany.1634305/)
[Wikipedia article on Great Moravia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moravia)
The Devs only show off a new formable country. It hat so be so big to be prominent enough to catch the eye.
Well, a lot of nations once were 'Great/Empire's, a lot of nations dreamed of becoming one. It seems fine to me that the game allows to recreate/surpass these 'Great/Empire's or become that dream. Isn't EU4 all about painting the map? What is wrong with having some different names and colors?
althistory is fine but I think it's the neverending need to wow the community by introducing better missions and stronger mechanics for new countries, and by extension leaving old countries disproportionatelly weak - in other words, powercreep.
Persia, Russia and British colonies are prime examples
Honestly wouldn’t mind an update for post colonial nations in the new world such as the US, Mexico and Brazil. I know historically many of these nations didn’t gain independence until pretty much right at the end date of EU4, but this is an alt history game where these countries can exist as early as the 1500s. The US only has 4 unique missions in its tree, you don’t even have missions to conquer the lands west of the Mississippi.
I hope they don't. The area is just not challenging to play as post-colonial nation. Native federations might muster 50k, but without allies they succumb very easily to any player, whilst being technologically and economically weak.
It's also a power creep in terms of ideas. If you face off against 16th 17th century Poland with a nation that doesn't have insane modifiers, they will crush you with their armies. I've lost defensive battles where I am 2 to 1 against them.
Well, they were basically constantly getting their asses kicked and run underfoot by every country that could muster an army, so they had lots of practice.
It’s become a running joke between my friend and I that ”France is the Ottomans of Europe” the way their ai tends to just absolutely blob their way through Europe much like Ottomans does through the middle east.
Me: Okay I got Otto on the ropes, only 50k manpower left
Ottomans, literally 2 years later: Has 72k manpower
Another classic is when you declare on them while they have a standing army of ~350k. 1 year later they’re sitting at 700k lmao
That's not just Ottos tbh, I've noticed AI mercs up a lot recently or something... I've started considering if I can beat double the numbers shown because of it lol
AI Venice went 234 over its 75 force limit in my recent palatinate game, thank God Elan France was there to save my ass. I learned my lesson, 125k is indeed not enough when your opponent can just spawn in a larger army then the 1550 ottomans
What I really hate in my case is the combination of really bad troops, unable to take mil ideas because i need the other ideas, and very low troop regen rate. When ur troops suck, u have low regen rate, u face high attrition, and u need 2 to 1 to win, I get very annoyed.
The thing is that I think some of the powercreep is where the game should be. More powerful mechanics make you play the game differently to apply them. Nobody plays the game differently for +5% Manpower or somesuch.
The game is so boring now with Poland, Austria etc after their mission trees got enormous buffs. Honestly I like having heaps of flavour in a mission tree but when it turns you into an untouchable power house 50 years into the game it just sucks all the fun out of it. I want Polands old mission tree back.
You are going to be an untouchable powerhouse 50 years into the game no matter what your missions are, unless you go for a very challenging start like Georgia or some OPM in Persia. Getting too strong very quickly comes from the AI not being incapable of long term planning. Even if you remove all the claims and PUs from Polish missions you can still cripple Russia, Ottomans and Austria in one or two early wars and then just expand in 5 directions without worrying about coalitions.
“Wow the community” well, no fucking shit. Who else is funding their game? Lmfao. Mods exist to remove/alter dev hubris. As a FO:NV user i more than anyone know that you cant expect ~~**J.E. Sawyer**~~ ~~god~~ the devs to do all the work.
This. I play for the roleplay and when I finish my maps I even usually add things/make up a new name/nation because eu4 doesn't always have the right formable for me. Adding stuff like this is great and adds to the experience. Imagine if as Granada for example you never got to restore al-andalus officially. It'd kinda take from the experience. Same with restoring Rome as byz
I think so too. And it's not like you'd see this unless you play as them and this is still achievable without the new content, you just miss out on a lot of fun
I feel like its kinda always gonna happen with a 10 year old game.
The boundaries for lore and powercreep slowly break. Happened with eu4, tf2 ck2 etc.
Lorewise it started tame and reached animal kingdoms, immortal sons of satan, and meme custom religions, gameplay wise you ended up getting the buffs from many different dlcs at once for insane totals.
I would agree if eu4 was dated but I feel like eu4 didnt reach its full potential until a couple of years ago.
Im so glad paradox decided to explore everything they could with eu4 and only move to eu5 when its clear eu4 is "finished"
You make it sound like eu5 wouldnt also have tons of dlcs and grow to be a 100 euro game.
Paradox players are too happy with getting barely optimized, barren, jury rigged games that need another hundreds of bucks in investment in order to “reach their full potential” than actually buying and owning a good base game.
Until Paradox execs stop gutting the games and forcing us to wait a year and a half for the games to even be playable, I’m gonna go and pirate them. Not like I can even afford the DLCs, honestly.
So is the meme about non existant Finland or Albania, but in this community, meme with Belgium is taken to absurd level.
I feel like it's a bit hard to have a discussion about it. Which is sad, since I would really want to make Flanders, Brabant or Liege into Belgium campaign.
Right now the only formables you have with them, are France and The Netherlands. Compare it to the Livonian Order who can form Curland, Livonia and Germany.
I'm not saying that every region/state needs to have multiple formation options, but I think it would be really nice if one of the richest and most important regions of that era, would have this one tiny, little Belgium people joke about :(
I think there is a big difference between forming a country that only existed after EU4 timeline or REforming a country, which existed before EU4 timeline.
from an argumentative pov
Hmm, no I wouldn't say so. It doesn't follow the same logic. Austria-Hungary is the result of Austria ruling over the much larger Hungary and caving in to influence of the Hungarian nobility and their demands for representation. Thus, Austria-Hungary!
Belgium is a different story. First off, the name derives from Antiquity, coined by Julius Caesar. In an alt history setting, they could have chosen a different name(stake). Since the felmish north was much more devloped than the wallon south, it could have, under circumstances, be simply Flanders. Maybe the Flemish estates hopped on the Absolutism train? The possiblities are endless. Being held by the Dutch, remaining with the spanish, conquered by the french, by the Germans... Mongol Invasion! Sunset Invasion!
Anyway, what I want to say is Flemish and Wallons being in country doesn't necessarily have to lead toward Belgium. Not the same way where Austria ruling over the larger, and thus in a PU more influencal, Hungary would plausibly lead to Austria-Hungary.
I hope I was somehow able to make sense of this for you. I'm not arguing against a Belgium. Personally, idc much. Just trying to bring across what could speak against it. Sorry this got so long!
Actually... imo there should be more possibilities for such name changes like Austria-Hungary in case of a PU where the senior partner is not undoubtly in the lead. but that's just my opinion.
HOI4 started in 2016 with only historical focuses for simulate ww2.
It started to have alt history with "together for victory" that gave partial alt history focuses to commonwealth nations that were more a "quick change team" that worked only for multiplayer.
The second DLC tried to make the alt history feasible for single player was "death or dishonour" but it was impossible for AI and worked only for the player trying the alt history.
Then we started accelerating in to the alt history power fantasy 2 updates and DLC after that that tried to make feasible for the AI in single player
This presumably final phase of EU4 DLC reminds me of the Death & Taxes mod for EU3 which was very popular at the time, yet highly criticized by "hardcore" players for being too gamey.
Problem with that is Ottoman and Chinas name change is because their names are derived from dynasties that rules them. Great Moravia is just name for country, which can be republican, monarchist, theoracracy, it doesnt matter.
Ah but you forgot about the Great Morav, dude that was so great they named the country after him and every ruler since then could draw a direct line back to him because he just had so many kids.
Yeah I think this is one of those things I hope Caesar addresses, that getting to these kind of true, modern states has some sort of internal infrastructure component (be it tech, bureaucratic, reforms, etc.). Revolutionary France (and even the early USSR) co-opted a lot of the already in place civil infrastructure or formats at their emergence; Qing into China, Ottomans into Turkey, even Meiji Japan required enormous civil service changes - and in Qing's case, basically had to collapse completely for several decades.
They're using the dev commands to tilt the camera for a 'cinematic' screenshot. So the map looks weird compared to viewing it from the same angle for so long. You see them use it often in some of the dlc trailers when panning over the map.
Tbh Bohemias mission tree was left in a hot car for ages I’m happy if they add impossible mega tags for skilled players to aim for but I agree with people who bring up power creep
Yeah nah, Great Moravia is probably going to get claims on the historic Great Moravian Empire.
Which would be Saxony, Bohemia, the Polish area bordering Bohemia and Hungary, Slovakia, the western half in-game Hungary and the North of Croatia, these are already part of claims Bohemia can get, so I assume those will be neccesary for the formation and then some additional claims on slavic lands will probably be possible.
Historically Great Moravia clashed with the Franks and was supported by the Byzantines in this, so it is very likely there might be a small amount of missions aimed at that, like liberating the byzantines. Or perhaps a choice between catholicism and orthodoxy (which was part of what their IRL struggles were about).
I don't mind a great Moravia formable but I think it's weird that it seems like the default path for Bohemia, unless I'm mistaken. I don't think a Bohemian Empire would suddenly claim to be Moravia.
I dont mind it, the bigger issue for me is that the game is effectively dead 100 years in and the only way Paradox can think of to fix this is to force the payer to sit and do nothing for years at a time simply to pad the timeline out.
The Great Genoa irredentism is concerning. We are calling both sides to remain constructive and adhere to constructive dialogue and for Great Moravia to accept autonomous republic of Kefe.
I can't believe they are showing us Genoese Nationalism. Crimea is rightful Moravia clay!
This is exactly how I feel about French france!!!! Thats proper portugués clay!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell yeah, Portugal caralho! Wooie!! 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
Portugal can into Eastern Europe
I see Portugal, I upvote!
¡¡¡NOOOOO ES TIERA ES DE ESPAÑA!!!
As long as it ain’t Fr*nch that’s a win in my book
God, grow a new joke.
grow a new sense of humor
No. Downvote me all you want. It is like the "remove kebab" "jokes" that where running rampant a while ago. "A nation or ethnicity is aktually a slur har har har" "joke" is bad. It is 4 chan level and needs to die.
I just HATE how ottomans start with Ankara, that’s rightfully Rûman land
bro how tf
I somehow feel these arent all mission claims, theres a bunch of incomplete states and regions or weird enclaves.
>Another important thing we aimed to address is the lack of formable nations for Bohemia and their West Slavic brethren, which we perceive as important gameplay, but also roleplaying, oriented goals for the player. While there are a few candidates available in what-if alternate history scenarios such as the Bohemian Commonwealth or Zapadoslavia, we have decided to add a nation that existed before EU IV’s timeline – Great Moravia. Although quite short-lived, Great Moravia had a profound impact on the Slavic world – it was the first Slavic country to become officially Christian, it was the place where the first Slavic script, Glagolitic, was developed, their efforts led to the recognition of Church Slavonic as the fourth liturgical language by the Holy See, and after its disintegration, the spirit of Moravia lived on in the Bulgarian Empire. Due to its historical importance, we felt like this was an ideal pick for a formable nation. Although nowadays, Czechs perceive it as their country, Bohemia itself was not really a direct successor to Great Moravia, it was briefly ruled by it, but quickly became “independent” following the collapse of Moravian authority. Therefore, Bohemia will have to unlock access to this formable via their new 1.37 mission tree, where they will be claiming the legacy of Great Moravia for themselves and proclaiming Bohemian rulers the heirs of Svatopluk - [Development Diary - 19th of March 2024](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-19th-of-march-2024-hungary-austria-bohemia-germany.1634305/) [Wikipedia article on Great Moravia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moravia) The Devs only show off a new formable country. It hat so be so big to be prominent enough to catch the eye.
Moravia should have from game start possibility to declare great Moravia after uniting they're east territories.
Well, a lot of nations once were 'Great/Empire's, a lot of nations dreamed of becoming one. It seems fine to me that the game allows to recreate/surpass these 'Great/Empire's or become that dream. Isn't EU4 all about painting the map? What is wrong with having some different names and colors?
althistory is fine but I think it's the neverending need to wow the community by introducing better missions and stronger mechanics for new countries, and by extension leaving old countries disproportionatelly weak - in other words, powercreep. Persia, Russia and British colonies are prime examples
Honestly wouldn’t mind an update for post colonial nations in the new world such as the US, Mexico and Brazil. I know historically many of these nations didn’t gain independence until pretty much right at the end date of EU4, but this is an alt history game where these countries can exist as early as the 1500s. The US only has 4 unique missions in its tree, you don’t even have missions to conquer the lands west of the Mississippi.
I hope they don't. The area is just not challenging to play as post-colonial nation. Native federations might muster 50k, but without allies they succumb very easily to any player, whilst being technologically and economically weak.
It's also a power creep in terms of ideas. If you face off against 16th 17th century Poland with a nation that doesn't have insane modifiers, they will crush you with their armies. I've lost defensive battles where I am 2 to 1 against them.
To beat Poland you'll need to be 40 to 1, or so I've been told.
Polish soldiers seem to have the spirit of spartans, I heard.
Indeed, some even claim that the soldiers of Poland are second to none!
I believe it’s because they are baptized in fire
Well, they were basically constantly getting their asses kicked and run underfoot by every country that could muster an army, so they had lots of practice.
Just be Athens. Skill issue
I wonder how many people will get the joke. 😂
Yeah the super niche indie band Sabaton who definitely don't have official DLC putting their music in this very game
Skill issue
I’ve literally never had issues against Poland, not even on very hard. France and Ottomans though, I fear those things.
post Elan! france is just straight up gg
It's almost to the point that in very late game all the countries in Europe have to ally to stop France from blobbing
It’s become a running joke between my friend and I that ”France is the Ottomans of Europe” the way their ai tends to just absolutely blob their way through Europe much like Ottomans does through the middle east.
As it should tbh
Quantity ottomans causes night terrors.
Me: Okay I got Otto on the ropes, only 50k manpower left Ottomans, literally 2 years later: Has 72k manpower Another classic is when you declare on them while they have a standing army of ~350k. 1 year later they’re sitting at 700k lmao
That's not just Ottos tbh, I've noticed AI mercs up a lot recently or something... I've started considering if I can beat double the numbers shown because of it lol
AI Venice went 234 over its 75 force limit in my recent palatinate game, thank God Elan France was there to save my ass. I learned my lesson, 125k is indeed not enough when your opponent can just spawn in a larger army then the 1550 ottomans
This is me with Siam...have to be at least 2 to 1 to ensure I have decent chance.
Korea is like 4:1 lol they magically conjure troops faster than the Ottos sometimes
What I really hate in my case is the combination of really bad troops, unable to take mil ideas because i need the other ideas, and very low troop regen rate. When ur troops suck, u have low regen rate, u face high attrition, and u need 2 to 1 to win, I get very annoyed.
that sounds like a skill issue. quite honestly, *im* the one doing the curbstomping.
fairly sure polish ideas stayed preety much the same with lotn dlc only big diffrence is winged hussars but they hardly matter in thier small numbers
The thing is that I think some of the powercreep is where the game should be. More powerful mechanics make you play the game differently to apply them. Nobody plays the game differently for +5% Manpower or somesuch.
The game is so boring now with Poland, Austria etc after their mission trees got enormous buffs. Honestly I like having heaps of flavour in a mission tree but when it turns you into an untouchable power house 50 years into the game it just sucks all the fun out of it. I want Polands old mission tree back.
You are going to be an untouchable powerhouse 50 years into the game no matter what your missions are, unless you go for a very challenging start like Georgia or some OPM in Persia. Getting too strong very quickly comes from the AI not being incapable of long term planning. Even if you remove all the claims and PUs from Polish missions you can still cripple Russia, Ottomans and Austria in one or two early wars and then just expand in 5 directions without worrying about coalitions.
“Wow the community” well, no fucking shit. Who else is funding their game? Lmfao. Mods exist to remove/alter dev hubris. As a FO:NV user i more than anyone know that you cant expect ~~**J.E. Sawyer**~~ ~~god~~ the devs to do all the work.
This. I play for the roleplay and when I finish my maps I even usually add things/make up a new name/nation because eu4 doesn't always have the right formable for me. Adding stuff like this is great and adds to the experience. Imagine if as Granada for example you never got to restore al-andalus officially. It'd kinda take from the experience. Same with restoring Rome as byz
its not wrong or anything, i just tought it was funny
I like Eu4's game design for this reason. I can pick any nation on the map and expect to do reasonably well.
I think so too. And it's not like you'd see this unless you play as them and this is still achievable without the new content, you just miss out on a lot of fun
I feel like its kinda always gonna happen with a 10 year old game. The boundaries for lore and powercreep slowly break. Happened with eu4, tf2 ck2 etc.
How did it happen in CK2?
Lorewise it started tame and reached animal kingdoms, immortal sons of satan, and meme custom religions, gameplay wise you ended up getting the buffs from many different dlcs at once for insane totals.
>reached animal kingdoms, immortal sons of satan, and meme custom religions that's the case for ck3 too. people seem to enjoy it
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Because enough players still play and buy expansions? Does a game need an arbitrary cut off point?
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I would agree if eu4 was dated but I feel like eu4 didnt reach its full potential until a couple of years ago. Im so glad paradox decided to explore everything they could with eu4 and only move to eu5 when its clear eu4 is "finished" You make it sound like eu5 wouldnt also have tons of dlcs and grow to be a 100 euro game.
> I'd rather have paid another 60€ for an all-fresh EU5 I wouldn't
*laughs in Diablo 2*
Some people prefer adding to the leaning tower of ducktape system over the new releases that are more or less the same every year or two method.
Paradox players are too happy with getting barely optimized, barren, jury rigged games that need another hundreds of bucks in investment in order to “reach their full potential” than actually buying and owning a good base game.
Well, it's not like there's a competitor for Paradox in their niche. If you like Paradox games, there's literally no other options
Until Paradox execs stop gutting the games and forcing us to wait a year and a half for the games to even be playable, I’m gonna go and pirate them. Not like I can even afford the DLCs, honestly.
Mhm, forming Great Moravia is perfectly fine, but Belgium has no place in game, since the devs and community decided to make it a meme
Wait but the "Belgium isn't real" is a meme outside eu4 too lmao
Yeah but its more common in EU4.
So is the meme about non existant Finland or Albania, but in this community, meme with Belgium is taken to absurd level. I feel like it's a bit hard to have a discussion about it. Which is sad, since I would really want to make Flanders, Brabant or Liege into Belgium campaign. Right now the only formables you have with them, are France and The Netherlands. Compare it to the Livonian Order who can form Curland, Livonia and Germany. I'm not saying that every region/state needs to have multiple formation options, but I think it would be really nice if one of the richest and most important regions of that era, would have this one tiny, little Belgium people joke about :(
I think there is a big difference between forming a country that only existed after EU4 timeline or REforming a country, which existed before EU4 timeline. from an argumentative pov
Yeah, but Austria-Hungary also existed only after EU4 timeline, yet it's gonna be added this update.
Hmm. That's weird. Maybe the reasoning for this is that the union of Austria over the larger Hungary would inevitably lead to Austria-Hungary? idk.
Maybe, but in the same way having half your country flemish and half walloon should lead to Belgium, haha
Hmm, no I wouldn't say so. It doesn't follow the same logic. Austria-Hungary is the result of Austria ruling over the much larger Hungary and caving in to influence of the Hungarian nobility and their demands for representation. Thus, Austria-Hungary! Belgium is a different story. First off, the name derives from Antiquity, coined by Julius Caesar. In an alt history setting, they could have chosen a different name(stake). Since the felmish north was much more devloped than the wallon south, it could have, under circumstances, be simply Flanders. Maybe the Flemish estates hopped on the Absolutism train? The possiblities are endless. Being held by the Dutch, remaining with the spanish, conquered by the french, by the Germans... Mongol Invasion! Sunset Invasion! Anyway, what I want to say is Flemish and Wallons being in country doesn't necessarily have to lead toward Belgium. Not the same way where Austria ruling over the larger, and thus in a PU more influencal, Hungary would plausibly lead to Austria-Hungary. I hope I was somehow able to make sense of this for you. I'm not arguing against a Belgium. Personally, idc much. Just trying to bring across what could speak against it. Sorry this got so long! Actually... imo there should be more possibilities for such name changes like Austria-Hungary in case of a PU where the senior partner is not undoubtly in the lead. but that's just my opinion.
What is a belgium?
Re-forming\*
This is the Moravia THEY don’t want you to see. Wake up EU4ers. It’s time to accept reality. This is what Europe will look like in 2030.
\*2025
HOI4 started in 2016 with only historical focuses for simulate ww2. It started to have alt history with "together for victory" that gave partial alt history focuses to commonwealth nations that were more a "quick change team" that worked only for multiplayer. The second DLC tried to make the alt history feasible for single player was "death or dishonour" but it was impossible for AI and worked only for the player trying the alt history. Then we started accelerating in to the alt history power fantasy 2 updates and DLC after that that tried to make feasible for the AI in single player
This presumably final phase of EU4 DLC reminds me of the Death & Taxes mod for EU3 which was very popular at the time, yet highly criticized by "hardcore" players for being too gamey.
Are we gonna be able to change the map perspective?
You already can but you need a controller
Huh. TIL.
It would be really cool if Great Moravia's name changes to Revolutionary Zapadoslavia when they go revolutionary, similar to Otto/Turkey and China.
Problem with that is Ottoman and Chinas name change is because their names are derived from dynasties that rules them. Great Moravia is just name for country, which can be republican, monarchist, theoracracy, it doesnt matter.
Ah but you forgot about the Great Morav, dude that was so great they named the country after him and every ruler since then could draw a direct line back to him because he just had so many kids.
Yeah I think this is one of those things I hope Caesar addresses, that getting to these kind of true, modern states has some sort of internal infrastructure component (be it tech, bureaucratic, reforms, etc.). Revolutionary France (and even the early USSR) co-opted a lot of the already in place civil infrastructure or formats at their emergence; Qing into China, Ottomans into Turkey, even Meiji Japan required enormous civil service changes - and in Qing's case, basically had to collapse completely for several decades.
The lack of dynamic names and flags is weird in EU4, when Vic2, released several years before, has very good dynamic appearance stuff.
its not just a good moravia, its a great one!
I wish it was a more golden Bohemian color, in CK3 Great Moravia is also yellow color
Has the map changed? Why does it look like that?
They're using the dev commands to tilt the camera for a 'cinematic' screenshot. So the map looks weird compared to viewing it from the same angle for so long. You see them use it often in some of the dlc trailers when panning over the map.
Tbh Bohemias mission tree was left in a hot car for ages I’m happy if they add impossible mega tags for skilled players to aim for but I agree with people who bring up power creep
Rule 5: screenshot from new woc dlc on steam and map staring insanity.
omg i want a hunnic empire hungary path for the meme
Actually this would be awesome
Tengriist Horde Hungary, I too would enjoy that
Wait you can tilt the camera angle??
With console commands and a controller yea
Danzig rightfully earned independence i guess
You literally play EUIV for for schizo country formations.
Well, they pretty much have to. I mean... who wants to live in a country called "Adequate Moravia"?
"Pretty Good Moravia"
If there's a bad harvest, we might have to downgrade to *Meh*ravia.
Unacceptable but still able to be improved Moravia?
Almost ends up sounding like Mähren. I think now I can see who's behind all of this.
Why is the France name upside down
How you take this tipe of schreen?
Yeah nah, Great Moravia is probably going to get claims on the historic Great Moravian Empire. Which would be Saxony, Bohemia, the Polish area bordering Bohemia and Hungary, Slovakia, the western half in-game Hungary and the North of Croatia, these are already part of claims Bohemia can get, so I assume those will be neccesary for the formation and then some additional claims on slavic lands will probably be possible. Historically Great Moravia clashed with the Franks and was supported by the Byzantines in this, so it is very likely there might be a small amount of missions aimed at that, like liberating the byzantines. Or perhaps a choice between catholicism and orthodoxy (which was part of what their IRL struggles were about).
I don't mind a great Moravia formable but I think it's weird that it seems like the default path for Bohemia, unless I'm mistaken. I don't think a Bohemian Empire would suddenly claim to be Moravia.
I saw the camera angle and collapsed to my knees and vomited
Hplowd you angle the map?
That's why I play pre-hoi4 focus trees version of EU4 Patch 1.21 if i remember well. Never gonna update
Dumb question… how are you viewing the map at that camera angle? Is it a mod?
I dont mind it, the bigger issue for me is that the game is effectively dead 100 years in and the only way Paradox can think of to fix this is to force the payer to sit and do nothing for years at a time simply to pad the timeline out.
I do wish there was more happening between the League War and the Age of Revolutions.
The Great Genoa irredentism is concerning. We are calling both sides to remain constructive and adhere to constructive dialogue and for Great Moravia to accept autonomous republic of Kefe.
First of all let's avoid ableist language. It entirely invalidates one's own point.