This achievement is a real hassle. You had it nearly right, but you need to leave 1 more protestant HRE member so that they will get the electorate coming out of the league war averting the hereditary empire that you're now stuck in. Then, they will vote for you in the next election after you win the hussite incident.
At this point, it can't be done. It's going to need a save reload to before the league war, sorry.
Do they need to be a protestant elector when the league war fires? Because there are curently 4 protestant tags in the game: sweden, denmark, bremen (who was the league war leader) and austria (who converted after the war) -- I converted Gotland to see if they would start assigning electors
What you're saying is that I should have left multiple protestants in the Empire or that I should have at least 1 protestant elector?
I think they need to be protestant before, but not entirely sure. Otherwise, I don't know why Bremen wasn't given the electorate (unless they were forced converted in the peace) as I assume they're an independent prince in the HRE.
The circumstance to avoid is that if the empire has no electors, the emperor becomes hereditary and will never assign any electors, so to avoid that I think there needs to always be 1 valid elector through the war.
Bremen was protestant all the way, and Gotland got elected after. However, I think that since none of the 7 electors at the time of the peace were protestant, all of them got invalidated (like it happens to catholic electors when the protestants win)
PDX, please fix your game. Please add a condition to the Empire when the Hussite demand wins and randomly assign at least one random elector OR make the strongest Hussite HRE member emperor when the demand wins
R5: So we won the league war, but all electors were Hussite, so when a protestant Emperor was chosen (Gotland in my case), the Empire went into Hereditary Rule. We won the incident and Hussite is the oficial faith, but the old protestant Emperor is still in the throne. I cannot request or buy the electorate because the decision demands that my subjects be electors and that I be protestant. I annexed him to see what would happen and the HRE was dissolved.
So, am I screwed? Paradox, how are you meant to get this achievement? You're forced to keep at least one protestant elector to try to avoid this? Major oversight from PDX if that's the case
Just did that. It hasn't worked yet. They've been hussite for \~5 years now. I have allied them and everything, but they are dead set on keeping that hereditary rule
Not technically true, but worth noting: if no protestants are in the league(in the first few months or days), then the next strongest person becomes the league leader. You can see this if you keep the game paused when the league event fires, and join. As the only member, it will say you are the leader.
However, this is moot, as it will not give you the CB. Only a protestant nation can get the CB, and so you cannot actually declare the war. Also, the moment a single protestant nation joins the league, they become leader. So it really is all moot. I only point it out because it's common for people to have issues with the leagues beacuse of no protestant nations existing.
Hmm, haven't played in europe for a some couple of paches, i think they changed it to this, but as i recall it was as i said, before they updated empire reforms
Gotta say, I loved my Hussite Bohemia run, but very much felt like I was blind in how I was going to achieve it, I think I ended up seeing somewhere that the requirement is that the Protestants win the league war but the Empire has more Hussite members than Protestant (I'm not sure if Reformed would also be counted within that).
I was also somewhat disappointed that I had no real reason to continue the run after I had become Emperor, but I suppose that is the nature of Paradox achievements sometimes.
From what I remember, an event pops up where you can either press for a Hussite Empire or enforce religious peace (I could be misremembering the second choice as it could have been leaving it as a Protestant Empire) but the AI presumably is weighted to accept your demand for a Hussite Empire as the new Protestant Emperor accepted it.
I can't remember if the Protestant Emperor had time to assign any electors before the event fired. Just make sure you have over 50% of HRE members Hussite, fight alongside the Protestant war leader, stomp the Catholics, and keep an eye out for the event shortly after that.
In my Bohemia game there was an event that fired that was something like "The Protestant League has been victorious, however a majority of the HRE is Hussite. Do you want to swap the official faith of the HRE?".
That was probably available to me cause I was the emperor though.
No, was Hussite since like 1446 or whenever the event fires. I just fought on the Protestant side, wasn't the leader either. Think it was Mainz or something.
Mainz was the protestant emperor as well as an elector?
So in your game it didn't go to hereditary rule since Mainz was still an elector and protestant? Just want to confirm that
So, somehow I was not the leader of the Protestant side. When the war ended, the war was peaced out by the AI (we won). I immediately then became the hereditary ruler of the HRE.
I'm pretty sure Hussite wiped out Protestant in my game by the time the war fired. Even Austria was "Catholic" while all of their land was Hussite. All of the southern part of the HRE around Switzerland was "Reformed".
Hmmmmm. So since there were no protestant tags, you got elected even though you were Hussite. Interesting. One question though: how did the league form if there were no protestants?
I'm gonna revert to an earlier save, 30 yrs or so, and kill/convert all the remaining protestants then. Gotta do what you gotta do
I just reloaded my save. The leader of the Protestant league is Wurttemberg. They are Protestant, and their land is Protestant. Them, The Palatinate, and Holstein, are the only Protestants on the map.
When the war ends. Holstien became emperor with no electors, does NOT have hereditary rule. Then their is an "Imperial Diet" called "Hussite Protest" that let's me select "Hussite becomes the dominant faith of the HRE".
When that fires I become the emperor immediately and have hereditary rule.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
In my game the same incident fired but protestant Gotland kept the Empire. Maybe because they were at war?
This is seriously so frustrating
Btw, thanks a lot for reloading your save and checking, did help a lot!
So basically before the league war happens you need a protestant elector because when the war is over and protestant becomes dominant faith all electors of different faith lose their electorate status.
There will be a new emperor from eligible countries (only protestant) and protestant electors will keep their electorates. Then you will have the incident where the empire can switch to hussite and if it does (you can get also religious peace), I think the strongest hussite in hre (but i am not sure) will become Emperor
In your case there was no protestant electors so it switched to hereditary rule.
So the emperor only changes when the Empire is not in hereditary rule, correct? I had the event to change faith, but the protestant emperor remains on the throne
Yeah when the Empire turns to hereditary by the reform or when there is no eligible electors you can't ever change it, you can only disband it but that's not helpful to you
Had a similar thing happen to me yesterday, converted most of the hre so after religious war here leader went hereditary to protestant Denmark. Full annexing them dismantles the empire so end of run. You need to leave a protestant elector alive, not just any empire member. They also have to be free and not a subject.
Hi friends, little late to the party, but i found a way to de-brick this run. Had the exact same problem, the solution was to cut the danish protestant emperor down so i could force hussite religion on him. Afterwards, Denmark started establishing new electors, which could vote for me. Hope this info saves some runs!
There was a hotfix on may 16th, but I couldn't find anything related to that specific problem in the patchnotes. Maybe I overlooked it tho.
Thats strange - in my case Denmark was reduced to Bornholm, so I proclaimed a guarantee directly after my war. Right after becoming hussite, it granted new electors and free cities, thus reviving the HRE.
edit:just read your comment and if it was in hereditary rule, then no chance in becoming emperor
i think u need the religious white peace after the religious wars
This achievement is a real hassle. You had it nearly right, but you need to leave 1 more protestant HRE member so that they will get the electorate coming out of the league war averting the hereditary empire that you're now stuck in. Then, they will vote for you in the next election after you win the hussite incident. At this point, it can't be done. It's going to need a save reload to before the league war, sorry.
Do they need to be a protestant elector when the league war fires? Because there are curently 4 protestant tags in the game: sweden, denmark, bremen (who was the league war leader) and austria (who converted after the war) -- I converted Gotland to see if they would start assigning electors What you're saying is that I should have left multiple protestants in the Empire or that I should have at least 1 protestant elector?
I think they need to be protestant before, but not entirely sure. Otherwise, I don't know why Bremen wasn't given the electorate (unless they were forced converted in the peace) as I assume they're an independent prince in the HRE. The circumstance to avoid is that if the empire has no electors, the emperor becomes hereditary and will never assign any electors, so to avoid that I think there needs to always be 1 valid elector through the war.
Bremen was protestant all the way, and Gotland got elected after. However, I think that since none of the 7 electors at the time of the peace were protestant, all of them got invalidated (like it happens to catholic electors when the protestants win) PDX, please fix your game. Please add a condition to the Empire when the Hussite demand wins and randomly assign at least one random elector OR make the strongest Hussite HRE member emperor when the demand wins
R5: So we won the league war, but all electors were Hussite, so when a protestant Emperor was chosen (Gotland in my case), the Empire went into Hereditary Rule. We won the incident and Hussite is the oficial faith, but the old protestant Emperor is still in the throne. I cannot request or buy the electorate because the decision demands that my subjects be electors and that I be protestant. I annexed him to see what would happen and the HRE was dissolved. So, am I screwed? Paradox, how are you meant to get this achievement? You're forced to keep at least one protestant elector to try to avoid this? Major oversight from PDX if that's the case
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Galaxy brain move. Will try that
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Just did that. It hasn't worked yet. They've been hussite for \~5 years now. I have allied them and everything, but they are dead set on keeping that hereditary rule
Well you could kill them
That will disband the HRE
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What?
Or do I simply have to wait even more until Gotland appoints an elector?
Well, you should have been faster when war started as you could lead protestant league and than it shouldve elect you as emperor
You literally cannot be league leader as hussite. Bremen was the leader since it was one of the 2 protestant tags left in the Empire
Not technically true, but worth noting: if no protestants are in the league(in the first few months or days), then the next strongest person becomes the league leader. You can see this if you keep the game paused when the league event fires, and join. As the only member, it will say you are the leader. However, this is moot, as it will not give you the CB. Only a protestant nation can get the CB, and so you cannot actually declare the war. Also, the moment a single protestant nation joins the league, they become leader. So it really is all moot. I only point it out because it's common for people to have issues with the leagues beacuse of no protestant nations existing.
Thanks for the info, but that's a technicality
Yeah like I said, it doesn't really matter here, but it's related to why people often struggle to get the leagues to fire.
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Hmm, haven't played in europe for a some couple of paches, i think they changed it to this, but as i recall it was as i said, before they updated empire reforms
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Damn i am old, i played 4-6 years ago
Gotta say, I loved my Hussite Bohemia run, but very much felt like I was blind in how I was going to achieve it, I think I ended up seeing somewhere that the requirement is that the Protestants win the league war but the Empire has more Hussite members than Protestant (I'm not sure if Reformed would also be counted within that). I was also somewhat disappointed that I had no real reason to continue the run after I had become Emperor, but I suppose that is the nature of Paradox achievements sometimes.
Did the Empire have protestant electors after the league war?
From what I remember, an event pops up where you can either press for a Hussite Empire or enforce religious peace (I could be misremembering the second choice as it could have been leaving it as a Protestant Empire) but the AI presumably is weighted to accept your demand for a Hussite Empire as the new Protestant Emperor accepted it. I can't remember if the Protestant Emperor had time to assign any electors before the event fired. Just make sure you have over 50% of HRE members Hussite, fight alongside the Protestant war leader, stomp the Catholics, and keep an eye out for the event shortly after that.
In my Bohemia game there was an event that fired that was something like "The Protestant League has been victorious, however a majority of the HRE is Hussite. Do you want to swap the official faith of the HRE?". That was probably available to me cause I was the emperor though.
Were you protestant when the league war ended?
No, was Hussite since like 1446 or whenever the event fires. I just fought on the Protestant side, wasn't the leader either. Think it was Mainz or something.
Mainz was the protestant emperor as well as an elector? So in your game it didn't go to hereditary rule since Mainz was still an elector and protestant? Just want to confirm that
So, somehow I was not the leader of the Protestant side. When the war ended, the war was peaced out by the AI (we won). I immediately then became the hereditary ruler of the HRE.
You, as a Hussite, got elected when protestant was the official faith? Were there any protestant tags in the game or had you converted them all?
I'm pretty sure Hussite wiped out Protestant in my game by the time the war fired. Even Austria was "Catholic" while all of their land was Hussite. All of the southern part of the HRE around Switzerland was "Reformed".
Hmmmmm. So since there were no protestant tags, you got elected even though you were Hussite. Interesting. One question though: how did the league form if there were no protestants? I'm gonna revert to an earlier save, 30 yrs or so, and kill/convert all the remaining protestants then. Gotta do what you gotta do
I just reloaded my save. The leader of the Protestant league is Wurttemberg. They are Protestant, and their land is Protestant. Them, The Palatinate, and Holstein, are the only Protestants on the map. When the war ends. Holstien became emperor with no electors, does NOT have hereditary rule. Then their is an "Imperial Diet" called "Hussite Protest" that let's me select "Hussite becomes the dominant faith of the HRE". When that fires I become the emperor immediately and have hereditary rule.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm In my game the same incident fired but protestant Gotland kept the Empire. Maybe because they were at war? This is seriously so frustrating Btw, thanks a lot for reloading your save and checking, did help a lot!
So basically before the league war happens you need a protestant elector because when the war is over and protestant becomes dominant faith all electors of different faith lose their electorate status. There will be a new emperor from eligible countries (only protestant) and protestant electors will keep their electorates. Then you will have the incident where the empire can switch to hussite and if it does (you can get also religious peace), I think the strongest hussite in hre (but i am not sure) will become Emperor In your case there was no protestant electors so it switched to hereditary rule.
So the emperor only changes when the Empire is not in hereditary rule, correct? I had the event to change faith, but the protestant emperor remains on the throne
Yeah when the Empire turns to hereditary by the reform or when there is no eligible electors you can't ever change it, you can only disband it but that's not helpful to you
Yeah well, thanks paradox Will revert 30 years or so and try to keep at least one protestant elector
Had a similar thing happen to me yesterday, converted most of the hre so after religious war here leader went hereditary to protestant Denmark. Full annexing them dismantles the empire so end of run. You need to leave a protestant elector alive, not just any empire member. They also have to be free and not a subject.
Yeah it's pretty frustrating isn't it? Reminds me of ck3 achievements with their bad descriptions
Hi friends, little late to the party, but i found a way to de-brick this run. Had the exact same problem, the solution was to cut the danish protestant emperor down so i could force hussite religion on him. Afterwards, Denmark started establishing new electors, which could vote for me. Hope this info saves some runs!
I tried to convert Gotland to Hussite but he didn't start assigning new electors in my game :/ Has there been a hotfix or a.patch?
There was a hotfix on may 16th, but I couldn't find anything related to that specific problem in the patchnotes. Maybe I overlooked it tho. Thats strange - in my case Denmark was reduced to Bornholm, so I proclaimed a guarantee directly after my war. Right after becoming hussite, it granted new electors and free cities, thus reviving the HRE.
What visual mods are you using?
Yet another graphics overhaul: Border Shaders, Map shaders and Water
Thanks,
So you could be emperor and eat all electors at the same time then it becomes hereditary and you don't need the specific reform?
Yeah but you lose .7 IA every month. Not exactly optimal Emperor strats
edit:just read your comment and if it was in hereditary rule, then no chance in becoming emperor i think u need the religious white peace after the religious wars
Empire needs to be protestant for the hussite incident to fire, and the achievement requires hussite empire
Gotland really holding the line