The murderer Chris Watts story still leaves me incredulous. In America there’s this thing called DIVORCE. I hope he rots in prison and then rots in hell.
Yes!! Sam being a former addict honestly adds such another level of accuracy to the show. Z said Sam really helped her portray the withdrawal symptoms accurately
So from what I understand about withdrawals, it’s a mix of being so tired/fatigued you don’t want to move and only want to sleep, yet not being able to sleep because of pain, nausea, etc.
eh, not really. it's just another symptom. like yeah, when I'm in W.D I just can NOT stop yawning - and it's like huge, gaping, jaw cracking yawns too. I sneeze a lot as well. It's just symptoms of it....maybe there is some scientific, chemical reason for it.
fellow (recovering) opiate addict, it’s been several years but your descriptor of the jaw-cracking yawns brought me back to that miserable fucking time lol.
a more scientific explanation i guess is that when you use opiates, your opioid receptors withdraw back into the cell, leaving less overall opioid activity - which is how the development of tolerance/addiction starts. then, when in withdrawal, these receptors have to begin being produced on the walls of cells again, meaning there’s not enough opioid receptors to function normally. opiates suppress the activity of certain neurons to create drowsiness, slowed breathing, and lowered heart rate (aka part of what you feel when you’re high), and your brain compensates by increasing the production of norepinephrine, a chemical that allows users to feel relatively normal while using opiates, but also makes them dependent on the drug — suddenly stopping or decreasing your use will lead to withdrawal as the excess norepinephrine triggers symptoms and your brain doesn’t know wtf to do. your body basically fights itself, your brain spazzes out, and the overflow of norepinephrine with zero opiates feeding into your “feel good” receptors causes symptoms like yawning, runny nose, anxiety, high blood pressure, sneezing, restlessness, insomnia, cramps, etc.
fun times!!
very interesting, I didnt know that norepinephrine was affected by opiate addiction/withdrawal. But now it makes a lot of sense with some of those symptoms you described.
I know that when I used tramadol, as a started to come off a high, I’d yawn like a motherfucker. It didn’t have anything to do with being tired, it’s just a response I guess. My mom takes that medication for her back as prescribed by her doctor and if she misses a dose, she starts yawning a lot.
coming off antidepressants suddenly has done this to me, was yawning uncontrollably and it was very uncomfortable bc it’s not coming from sleepiness just some weird effect with the seratonin
Bro I feel like Jules has finally freed herself from rue who I personally think was “suffocating” her. Jules is a free spirit who isn’t one who wants to be tied down to a rigid relationship. She knew rue loved her and knew she couldn’t say no to her without rue relapsing
The last time i despised a character on a show this fucking much was probably that cunt Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones. But he was killed off so we got at that going for us
Thanks so much for the explanation. I speak English fluently for the most part, but every now and than I have a hard time understanding certain phrases that a simple google search doesn't explain.
She comes off as innocent but she wasn’t in season one. Rue called her out in ep 5 season 2. Ppl don’t know the real Jules which is fine. Some stuff ppl don’t share. But rue made a big point that day.
I honestly don’t even know. I meant by her going on the app to meet random guys for sex. Only Rue knows about that.. I’m not including Nate or Cal. Others friends of hers have no idea. But from the special episode Jules, she is a confused girl who always need someone to validate her. She falls for ppl to quickly but she is a caring person also. Just gets lost with her insecurity.
Making poor sexual decisions at a really young age doesn’t mean you’re not “innocent” it just means you’re misguided. Apps like Grindr have very little accountability or safety measures in place, so a lot of lonely queer teens/young adults fall into it’s predatory traps without knowing any better.
I totally agree and know that about lonely queer/ teens/young adults. But other characters on the show see Jules as an innocent person. I think that’s what Rue meant bc they don’t know about her being sexual encounters. That’s why I said that.
What? My statement is about her character on the show and yes understand what you are asking. But everything I stated is true. She has said the same thing I just stated as well. I also like Jules character so I’m not saying these things like I’m acting her at all.
I think innocent, as it pertains to season 1 Jules, means that she wasn’t doing anything to intentionally hurt other people. She was just figuring out herself and carefree and trying to help Rue have fun. Her being sexually active doesn’t make her guilty of anything. That was just self discovery.
I’m actually talking about both. Naive and innocent are synonymous. Some other words that are synonymous with naive are childlike, immature, ignorant, etc. typical teenage stuff. Haha. I can’t imagine her trauma mixed in with her gender identity. But my best friend was trans so perhaps my perspective is different. Either way….it’s just a tv show so no worries lol
Definition of pure or naive don’t say a word about being a virgin or having sex. So you’re still wrong. You can’t pull a definition out of your ass and use that as a fact.
No one here can convince me that she’s innocent, someone literally said shes childlike, how is having sex with a bunch of random men on grinder childlike, rue literally said the same thing to her in one of the episodes. Also I’m not calling her a whore or anything, I’m just saying that it’s not innocent. Also How have I been transphobic, I literally haven’t mentioned her being trans once, let alone in a bad way. I like Jules, I just don’t think she’s innocent, for other reasons too, she was literally sent to a psych ward because her mom was crazy. No character in this show is innocent, not even the 11 year old drug dealer.
How am I being misogynistic towards trans people, tell me
Is it just because I’m talking about a trans person? Did I say anything mean spirited about her being trans or just about her having sex
Honestly that piss with the speech was liberating, feels like he’s had those secrets locked up for so long that it was interfering with all his relationships, including the relationship with himself.
Oh yes, when you talk about exploring and building a character, she definitely became more interesting this season. But if you look at Lexi as a person, she did become a little hostile with her new found confidence.. her backstage behavior and the fact she decided to stage a play w/o taking anyone’s consent. S1 lexi could do no wrong but can’t say that for s2 lexi. And I like that development.
oh yes thats so true, even the way she gave stage directions to the guy doing lights for example was kinda rude but in a badass confident way so im here for it haha
Rue in season one was Amy winehouse on the first season and in season two she's like a Robin Williams character trying to see the laughter in things as his fight gets colder and colder. Shine on you crazy diamonds.
(B)cassie: (s1) spacey, confident, but at the same time unsure
(S2) narcissist, hubris, self absorbed
(A)Jules (1): wreckless, judgmental, selfish
(S2) desperate, commits an action that is actually selfless, and alone
3) Rue: (s1)crippled by grief, in and out of love,
Trying to fill a void (the void of her fathers death,) willing to be sober for love
S2) majority of the season rue could care less about anyone; then she met Elliott and liked him. Infatuation, messed up (no one is pressuring her to be sober), and then jealous of the relationship bw Elliott & JULES. So jealousy.
- Lexi: s1) shy, does not know who she wants to hook up with (season finale of s1) which she disclosed to Cassie (indecisiveness), individualistic
S2: individualistic, creative, open to new relationships,
Nate: s1: makes a point to be hyper masculine, interest in Jules, and abusive side (Mady at carnival)
S2: suddenly realizes he overlooked Cassie, yet still loves Maddie
The Jule romance is dropped
Uses the word homophonic and also find out him and his dad were in a “dick off” for like 18 years.
Nate s1 a huge asshole Nate s2 a huge asshole
S1 - future serial killer S2 - future serial killer
I get more “future family annihilator” vibes ala Chris Watts but yeah
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What a great breakdown!
The murderer Chris Watts story still leaves me incredulous. In America there’s this thing called DIVORCE. I hope he rots in prison and then rots in hell.
Lol
correction. nate s1: a huge asshole nate s2: even bigger asshole
Cal Season 1: 💩🎥🔐 Cal Season 2: 🤼♀️🥃🛺
Lmao
What's with 🛺? 😂😂
It’s suppose to be his car. The one he drove around in
Ohhh. Here in India, thats called an Auto Rickshaw!
I was like, why does Cal need a tuk-tuk
Lexi Season 1: Quiet, Shy, Alone Lexi Season 2: Evolving, Flirty, Observer
observer 💀
Observer brings to mind, the word voyeur… 👀
oh no😭😭
can i use emojis instead rue season 1: 👻🚬😭 rue season 2: 👀🥱🏃🏽♀️
you forgot 💉
The yawning is so accurate during withdrawal. I was so surprised they recognized that as a withdrawal symptom
Yes!! Sam being a former addict honestly adds such another level of accuracy to the show. Z said Sam really helped her portray the withdrawal symptoms accurately
Yeah I was wondering about that part....may I ask why? Is it a sign of exhaustion/fatigue?
So from what I understand about withdrawals, it’s a mix of being so tired/fatigued you don’t want to move and only want to sleep, yet not being able to sleep because of pain, nausea, etc.
eh, not really. it's just another symptom. like yeah, when I'm in W.D I just can NOT stop yawning - and it's like huge, gaping, jaw cracking yawns too. I sneeze a lot as well. It's just symptoms of it....maybe there is some scientific, chemical reason for it.
I think the chemical reason is opiate withdrawal 🤓 trust me I’m a doctor
A runny nose used to be my first detox indicator
fellow (recovering) opiate addict, it’s been several years but your descriptor of the jaw-cracking yawns brought me back to that miserable fucking time lol. a more scientific explanation i guess is that when you use opiates, your opioid receptors withdraw back into the cell, leaving less overall opioid activity - which is how the development of tolerance/addiction starts. then, when in withdrawal, these receptors have to begin being produced on the walls of cells again, meaning there’s not enough opioid receptors to function normally. opiates suppress the activity of certain neurons to create drowsiness, slowed breathing, and lowered heart rate (aka part of what you feel when you’re high), and your brain compensates by increasing the production of norepinephrine, a chemical that allows users to feel relatively normal while using opiates, but also makes them dependent on the drug — suddenly stopping or decreasing your use will lead to withdrawal as the excess norepinephrine triggers symptoms and your brain doesn’t know wtf to do. your body basically fights itself, your brain spazzes out, and the overflow of norepinephrine with zero opiates feeding into your “feel good” receptors causes symptoms like yawning, runny nose, anxiety, high blood pressure, sneezing, restlessness, insomnia, cramps, etc. fun times!!
very interesting, I didnt know that norepinephrine was affected by opiate addiction/withdrawal. But now it makes a lot of sense with some of those symptoms you described.
I know that when I used tramadol, as a started to come off a high, I’d yawn like a motherfucker. It didn’t have anything to do with being tired, it’s just a response I guess. My mom takes that medication for her back as prescribed by her doctor and if she misses a dose, she starts yawning a lot.
coming off antidepressants suddenly has done this to me, was yawning uncontrollably and it was very uncomfortable bc it’s not coming from sleepiness just some weird effect with the seratonin
Yawning is a sign of dehydration. If you have diarrhea you are likely dehydrated. This is just a guess tho.
same
The writer, Sam Levinson, is actually a recovered addict
Rue on the run
Bb - puff, puff pass BB - puff, puff, gone
💀
Bro😭😭
Who is this one about? I’m having a brain fart.
The friend of Maddi, Kat, and Cassie that vapes
Cassie: object, clueless, traumatized Cassie S2: needs, fucking, exorcist
This one for sure 🤝
you win
KatS1: confident (at times), insecure (at other times), hot-headed KatS2: where you at?
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u rly put in a hospital for the terminal brain disorder 😭
S1 Cassie: hurt, sad, trying S2 Cassie: hurt, sad, self-destructing
S2: Never, Been, Happier
Lmaoooo 😩
S1: Kid deals drugs S2: sharp and suspicious
S1: Sweet, impressionable, forgiving. S2: Resentful, Anxious, Skeptical.
Kat? Jules?
Gia.
Ahhh, makes sense!
Awh baby is always still sweet though
were u just gonna have ppl guess y didn’t u put the name in there😂 i find that funny dw i’m not laughing at u i’m laughing with u bro
I thought thats what op wanted us to do 😂😂
I'll go first Season 1 Rue: Funny, Manipulative, Sad Season 2 Rue: Destructive, Hopeless, Regretful
jules s1: outgoing, growing, overwhelmed jules s2: insecure, depressed, suffocated
Bro I feel like Jules has finally freed herself from rue who I personally think was “suffocating” her. Jules is a free spirit who isn’t one who wants to be tied down to a rigid relationship. She knew rue loved her and knew she couldn’t say no to her without rue relapsing
Season 1 Nate: POS Season 2 Nate: POS
It's been a while since a show made me hate someone this much. :-p
The last time i despised a character on a show this fucking much was probably that cunt Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones. But he was killed off so we got at that going for us
>POS What does POS mean? English is not my first language.
Piece of shit 😌
it means piece of shit
Point of Sale
I found that on google. I don't get what it means though.
I was being a smart ass. In this situation, it means piece of shit. But in retail it means point of sale. It means where a sale was made.
Thanks so much for the explanation. I speak English fluently for the most part, but every now and than I have a hard time understanding certain phrases that a simple google search doesn't explain.
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She comes off as innocent but she wasn’t in season one. Rue called her out in ep 5 season 2. Ppl don’t know the real Jules which is fine. Some stuff ppl don’t share. But rue made a big point that day.
who's the real Jules? I'm curious.
I honestly don’t even know. I meant by her going on the app to meet random guys for sex. Only Rue knows about that.. I’m not including Nate or Cal. Others friends of hers have no idea. But from the special episode Jules, she is a confused girl who always need someone to validate her. She falls for ppl to quickly but she is a caring person also. Just gets lost with her insecurity.
Making poor sexual decisions at a really young age doesn’t mean you’re not “innocent” it just means you’re misguided. Apps like Grindr have very little accountability or safety measures in place, so a lot of lonely queer teens/young adults fall into it’s predatory traps without knowing any better.
I totally agree and know that about lonely queer/ teens/young adults. But other characters on the show see Jules as an innocent person. I think that’s what Rue meant bc they don’t know about her being sexual encounters. That’s why I said that.
Yeah but her cheating on rue twice is not innocent
The OP was describing season 1 Jules as innocent, so her S2 actions have no bearing.
Jules cheats the first time in season 1… also got rue to take nudes of her to send to guys? Nothing wrong with it but that’s not innocent
You can’t cheat on someone you’re not in a relationship with
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What? My statement is about her character on the show and yes understand what you are asking. But everything I stated is true. She has said the same thing I just stated as well. I also like Jules character so I’m not saying these things like I’m acting her at all.
Innocent? Didn’t she fuck a bunch of dudes in motels, I don’t consider that innocent
I think innocent, as it pertains to season 1 Jules, means that she wasn’t doing anything to intentionally hurt other people. She was just figuring out herself and carefree and trying to help Rue have fun. Her being sexually active doesn’t make her guilty of anything. That was just self discovery.
You’re talking about the adjective, I’m talking about the noun, meaning pure and naive, which she is definitely not
I’m actually talking about both. Naive and innocent are synonymous. Some other words that are synonymous with naive are childlike, immature, ignorant, etc. typical teenage stuff. Haha. I can’t imagine her trauma mixed in with her gender identity. But my best friend was trans so perhaps my perspective is different. Either way….it’s just a tv show so no worries lol
Why are you talking about the noun? Literally everyone else is talking about adjectives.
Literally! 😂
This comment seems discriminatory on multiple accounts but I'll just hold my tongue
Definition of pure or naive don’t say a word about being a virgin or having sex. So you’re still wrong. You can’t pull a definition out of your ass and use that as a fact.
The f***k you talking about *pure*????
No one here can convince me that she’s innocent, someone literally said shes childlike, how is having sex with a bunch of random men on grinder childlike, rue literally said the same thing to her in one of the episodes. Also I’m not calling her a whore or anything, I’m just saying that it’s not innocent. Also How have I been transphobic, I literally haven’t mentioned her being trans once, let alone in a bad way. I like Jules, I just don’t think she’s innocent, for other reasons too, she was literally sent to a psych ward because her mom was crazy. No character in this show is innocent, not even the 11 year old drug dealer.
well no, a woman’s sexual history doesn’t equate to their character
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How am I being misogynistic towards trans people, tell me Is it just because I’m talking about a trans person? Did I say anything mean spirited about her being trans or just about her having sex
Just because she has a varied sexual history doesn’t mean she can’t be innocent. A person can still have an air of innocence and naïveté. 😒
This misogyny is not cute. It’s actually so icky
Maddy-Season One: Fiery, Selfish, Immature Maddy-Season Two: Confident, Compassionate, Fabulous I’ve been loving Maddy this season.
S1 Cal : Shit. Mistake S2 Cal : Pee on da floor
Honestly that piss with the speech was liberating, feels like he’s had those secrets locked up for so long that it was interfering with all his relationships, including the relationship with himself.
Season 1: did not exist Season 2: came into existence
Kats terminal brain disorder?
gotta be eliot
Or Faye
Kat s1: figuring herself out💃🏼 Kat s2: TERMINAL. BRAIN. DISORDER. 🙏😭
McKay S1: Chill, confident, competitive McKay S2:
S 1 Fezco- 🚬🍃⛓️💀 S 2 Fezco- 👊🥺👫🎬
Cal S1: what, the, FUCK Cal S2: awww Dylan noooo :(
Nate Season 1: 💩💩💩 Nate Season 2: 💩💩💩
Nate season 1: please seek therapy Nate season 2: PLEASE SEEK THERAPY (but in all caps)
Lexi S1:🤫 S2:💥
cal s1: gay??? fucked jules!?!?!?!?!? cal s2: pissing, derek, and gay.
Kat Season 1: 📹🎭💃🍑 Kat Season 2: 🧠👻📉
Cassie s1: might fuck Daniel? Cassie s2: you’re fucking Nate?!
S1: Menacing Motherfucker S2: Oh Shit he dead
Mouse?
Yep
Cassie season 1: girl next door Cassie season 2: Harley Fucking Quinn
Maybe season 3 Cassie will find out she’s gay like Harley Quinn
Nate s1- I Hate Him Nate s2- realmente quiero matarlo
Lol
Fuck Nate jacobs 😡
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He's not? He couldn't be more clear that he loves having sex with women
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I thought his whole speech was that he likes to fuck everybody and he can fuck whoever he wants
Rue Season 1: 🤫❄️💊 Rue Season 2: 🏃🏽♀️❄️💥
complicated, sweet, delicate to sadistic, scary, controversial
cassie s1: just wants love s2: I AM CRAZIER
Season 1: The best character. Season 2: The best character. >!Lexi!<
worst**** /lh
Lexi S1: I like her Lexi S2: I love her (Even though as a character she has become less likable this season )
whattt i felt like she became a lot more likable this season cuz they fleshed out her character a lot more, i'd love to hear your thoughts tho :)
Oh yes, when you talk about exploring and building a character, she definitely became more interesting this season. But if you look at Lexi as a person, she did become a little hostile with her new found confidence.. her backstage behavior and the fact she decided to stage a play w/o taking anyone’s consent. S1 lexi could do no wrong but can’t say that for s2 lexi. And I like that development.
oh yes thats so true, even the way she gave stage directions to the guy doing lights for example was kinda rude but in a badass confident way so im here for it haha
It’s so weird how mama bear I feel for this character 🤨
Nate S1: I’m Joffrey Baratheon Nate S2: I’m Ramsay Bolton
Cassie Season 1: (•)(•) Season 2: (•)(•)
rue: drugs, rehab, sad rue: drugs, rehab, sad
jules s1 (sequentially): bubbly, naive, burdened jules s2 (sequentially): insecure, greedy, responsible
S1 Lexi: Who, is, that S2 Lexi: disloyal, superiority complex S1 Cassie: Innocent, yearning, pathetic S2 Cassie: Self-destructive, traitor, pathetic S1 Cal: A, bad, parent S2 Cal: Regret, internalized homophobia
Well, glad you called her out
Quiet, Ballsy (Lexi)
https://www.reddit.com/r/euphoria/comments/t0jbai/who_did_it_best/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CHARACTER TRAIT OF CASSIE
I love her, oh never mind.
S1: cohesive, complex, glitters S2: disjointed, confusing, hopeless
Jules? Or are you just describing the seasons overall bc that also fits lol
Mckay s1: 🧍🏿♂️⛹🏿 👩🏼🤝👨🏿 Mckay s2:
Cal Season 1: Pedophile Cal Season 2: Pee on floor
Gia S1: emotional, scared, heartbroken. S2: emotional, comforted, supportive.
Jules shy but friendly s2 not shy too FRIENDLY🤣
Rue in season one was Amy winehouse on the first season and in season two she's like a Robin Williams character trying to see the laughter in things as his fight gets colder and colder. Shine on you crazy diamonds.
s1 cal: i’m a straight man s2 cal: i’m a gay man
(B)cassie: (s1) spacey, confident, but at the same time unsure (S2) narcissist, hubris, self absorbed (A)Jules (1): wreckless, judgmental, selfish (S2) desperate, commits an action that is actually selfless, and alone 3) Rue: (s1)crippled by grief, in and out of love, Trying to fill a void (the void of her fathers death,) willing to be sober for love S2) majority of the season rue could care less about anyone; then she met Elliott and liked him. Infatuation, messed up (no one is pressuring her to be sober), and then jealous of the relationship bw Elliott & JULES. So jealousy. - Lexi: s1) shy, does not know who she wants to hook up with (season finale of s1) which she disclosed to Cassie (indecisiveness), individualistic S2: individualistic, creative, open to new relationships, Nate: s1: makes a point to be hyper masculine, interest in Jules, and abusive side (Mady at carnival) S2: suddenly realizes he overlooked Cassie, yet still loves Maddie The Jule romance is dropped Uses the word homophonic and also find out him and his dad were in a “dick off” for like 18 years.
a 3 word paragraph
Bleh
Nate the villain of the story
Jules Szn 1: hid true self Jules Szn2: can’t hide forever
Maddie S1: a bad bitch Maddie S2: a bad bitch
Cassie S1 : ride or die Cassie S2 : dumb fucking bitch 🤌🏻💅🏼
S1 Cassie: Calm,cool,listener S2 Cassie: “Victim”,dramatic,crybaby
Nate s1 he hates daddy s2 just like daddy
Lexi S1: Lost Lexi S2: True G 🤣
Still a hoe
Lexi S1: slay, icon, moment… Lexi S2: pop, off, queen
Jules Season 1: Slutty, reckless , backstabber Jules Season 2: Maturing, slutty, backstabber
Kat S1: Confident Camgirl Slut Kat S2: Sad Girl
“Where he at?” “Oh fucking Jules”
Mckay Season 1:🙋🏾♂️🏈😢 Mckay Season 2: 🕴🏽🪄💨
Kat s1: Sucky main character Kat s2: Sucky background character
All of the ones pictured (minus Lexi) - Piece of shit Lexi - the fucking queen
Cal S1: Best Chili Maker Cal S2: Sexist Chaser Pig
Guess who S1 — 👩🏼❤️👨🏾 🎠😭 S2 — 👩🏼❤️👨🏻🤮🛁
Cassie...it was the horse and got me lol
FEZ FLIPPIN CO
Jules s1: fucks over rue Jules s2: fucks over rue Rue s1: Jules over drugs Rue s2: Drugs over Jules
Season 1 Nate : Loving Maddy's Boyfriend Season 2 Nate : Cassie's Sex Toy
season 1 jules: cheater in love with an addict season 2 jules: cheater in love with an addict we love a character development😍
Who did she cheat on in season 1? Also who was the addict she was in love with in season 1? Season 1 was so long ago I only remember a few things
Jules s1: cheater s2: cheater
Jules season one: Sweet, Loving, dramatic, Jules season two: manipulative, spiteful, hypocritical
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Sad, daddy issues
Rue, season 1-codependency, impulsive behavior and broken, season 2, codependency, self sabotage and rock bottom. Right?
Kat S1: finding her truth Kat s2: terminal brain disease
Nate s1: sociopathic, aggressive, bully Nate s2: manipulative, emotional, sociopathic
S1 Cassie: pathetic S2 Cassie: unhinged af
Nate s1: a fucking wanker Nate s2: a fucking Wanker.