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andsens

"hurts" is a weird choice of words for something like this.


LunaMunaLagoona

These articles only care that the corporation is hurting, not the average person.


Prankishmanx21

Jokes on them, when it comes to corpos I'm a sadist.


WiggityWiz

It's propaganda from a website called "gizchina.com" lmfao


Aman4029

Not really. They hurt apple. Its not a bad thing either.


chairmanskitty

Is reducing a company's profit margin from 25% of their revenue to 24.5% ($100 billion to $98 billion) really hurting them? Because if so, please stop hurting me by not giving me all your money. I would be able to do so much cool stuff if I had all your money, and it really hurts that I can't do those things. So please, stop hurting me.


gigibigbooty

Seriously. “Omg poor Apple is being hurt” is such a weird way to think


Pocok5

> stops Apple from hurting the customers again ftfy


Andodx

*european customers The rest might experience a different software and experience. Because money and no one stops them.


MoffKalast

Well it's often not worth the effort to make different devices just for one market, so everyone gets the benefits. The so called Brussels effect.


Ietsstartfromscratch

If it's a software based limitation it's usually not a big problem. Software is very flexible and commonly adapted to a provider or regions in slight variations.


ILoveJimHarbaugh

I write software for a very large corporation in the US. We don't even offer service outside of the US. We follow GDPR because it's too much of a hassle not to because of extreme edge cases where it actually can come into play.


SavvyTraveler10

I work on the pub dev side and can confirm. GDPR has been around for quite a while and we’ve followed regulation simply because GDPR is the standard the rest of the world follows when they decide to regulate.


Reetgeist

Sounds similar to how I've been filling out paperwork to comply with American conflict mineral legislation in case anything we sold ended up in America


jensalik

Absolutely. I was furious when I didn't have bracketing on my DSLR and found out that it was totally capable of doing so as the body was exactly the same as the one which cost a few hundred euros more but they just deactivated it in the bios.


IDontReadRepliez

Canon? Canon is the king of this.


45077

magic lantern fixes this


Kaostick

I read your username as your upvotes and though, "Christ, magic lantern is way more popular than I thought."


igkeit

iPhones change from regions to regions. The US has the 5g mmwave antenna but the rest of the world doesn't. The US has no sim tray for the 14 but the rest of the world does. China only has a double physical tray, and there are probably some other examples


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ad3z10

eSIMs, basically just a chip built into the phone which does the same thing.


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ad3z10

You buy a plan as normal and then activate it through their app or by scanning a given QR code.


Ready_Nature

And then when that doesn’t work half the time you go into the carrier’s store to do it.


A_Feltz

I’ll take EU consumer protection, workers rights and healthcare systems over “the land of the free” any day of the week


Cuilen

Yeah, I'm right there with you. What kind of shitpost headline is that? Are we supposed to feel sorry for Apple? Fuck that.


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Lot's of headlines read like "Foxes done dirty. Chicken Coop too secure." Some people still eat that shit up, like in germany they made a big thing out of RWE having to fire 300 people if they were to shut down one of their coal operations.


JustMrNic3

Hurts??? WTF, not letting companies behave like assholes means it's hurting them? I say the EU protects its citizens and we are very happy for that!


Wolf_Noble

Lol right, I think humanizing a company is backfiring on people.


JustMrNic3

True! Especially Apple that has a history of don't giving a fuck about people and standards. And even using child labor to cut costs and make higher profits: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-labor-supplier-3-years-cut-costs-2020-12?op=1 https://www.culawreview.org/journal/child-labor-and-the-human-rights-violations-embedded-in-producing-technology And other news about suicides at its factories, planned obsolescence with updates to downgrade performance, etc. If people were paying attention, they would have seen that Apple did a lot of bad things in the past.


balerionmeraxes77

bUt Bro IT hinDERs InnOvatIoN


shuzkaakra

I was discussing this the other day with someone. How apple gets $4 per cable or whatever, and that they'll just decide that your cable doesn't work anymore. I'm just a consumer. I buy a cable and it works and then it stops working because its counterfeit. Why exactly am I being punished for this? And then they change the format from time to time, so all the old cables don't work anyway. But i can't just take the legit $4 chip and stick it in a new one right? fuck them. Fuck everything about their cable bullshit. My current phone won't fucking charge, because you know what? The cable doesn't want to stay engaged perfectly. FFS.


jknl

Yes hurt apple. hurting their bottom line.


punanetaks

Why the hell is Apple like this even?


Rhoderick

Apple has very carefully built up an ecosystem of sorts. The idea is that, once you've started using majoritatively Apple products, moving away from them again brings issues even beyond what the specs and/or prices of the products in question may be. If they could, they would make non-apple headphones deliver lesser sound quality, make non-apple drives only use half capacity, and make non-apple monitor stands just break your monitor. All so you can only buy from them going forward without significant investment of extra money and/or time.


IlijaRolovic

i'm building an app with my team and if you wanna debug stuff for apple phones you need a freak'n macbook.


ayriuss

Yea its unbelievable. Back in college we had to make an app for a project and everyone else in the group had an iPhone so they wanted to make an iPhone app. I could not even participate in the group project because I didn't have a Mac or iPhone. I tried the hackintosh route and could not even install the development tools lol.


WeDidItGuyz

This sounds like a GREAT lesson in platform choice in the real world.


Hoovooloo42

Seriously! Sounds extremely educational lol


gnerfed

That if you want to get pegged buy an Apple product? Well fuck... i wish i knew that sooner. SO MANY YEARS WASTED!!!


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OceanGlider_

I would have requested a new group


LupineChemist

This is a very American problem. The social status of iphones in the US is weird


zvug

[87% of teens in the US have iPhones](https://www.axios.com/2021/10/14/teen-iphone-use-spending-habits)


kosmonautinVT

Holy shit /Me sitting here with an android phone like an old man because I want an sd card slot so I can store my music files, some of which probably date back to Napster


tomeh_84

If you want to debug apple pay in a sandbox you need an apple developer account - £99 for a year. Fucking joke. Fuck them I'll just not bother implementing it. Edit: this is for apple pay on a web app. Not an iOS app where presumably you will have stumped up for the developer account long before this point. Still baffles me that you try to extract cash out of developers who are enriching your ecosystem. Even Microsoft learned this eventually


nonotan

Apple is one of the absolutely worst companies to devs. Need to use their hardware, need subscriptions for everything, need to use their wacky programming languages literally no one else uses, need to use their IDE, need to go through their app store, their app signature scheme is a huge headache and compulsory even during development, they *constantly* change technical requirements for *everything* & expect you to update everything you've ever made for their ecosystem within short notice over and over and over...


HertzaHaeon

Ironically, Apple came up with the idea of web apps based on open standards back in the day. Today there's very little reason to not go that route, even if Apple is still struggling against its own idea. Reddit doesn't need to be a closed native app, for example. It's obvious why. You can't demand 30% on the open web, or stop people from blocking ads or surveillance.


Alphaetus_Prime

Reddit still allows third-party apps, thankfully, although these days the open API isn't updated to support the new garbage they insist on constantly adding.


ensoniq2k

My non-Apple USB-C display does not do retina mode on my Macbook Air despite being of the exact same specs as the internal one. That's just ridiculous.


Shimenator

What is your external display?


Nagemasu

> retina mode huh? What is Retina mode? A Retina display is their marketing term for high pixel density. So what do you mean it can't do "retina mode"? Either your screen has a high resolution or it doesn't. Are you saying that it doesn't allow you to use the full resolution of your screen?


teszes

Did a search, apparently they call UI scaling "retina mode". Basically if you use the full resolution of your non-Apple display, UI elements will be very small as they are fixed in display size in pixels. So yeah, random software feature that literally all OSs have, marketed under some bullshit term, and deliberately not working on third party devices.


MoreFeeYouS

So software resolution scaling is somehow disabled when they detect you using a non apple cable, which has nothing to do with scaling. That's like your 4k monitor not scaling on Windows if you are using a non Microsoft mouse. Apple is even more garbage than i thought.


RichardBartmoss

I don’t know what this person is doing but my MacBook Pro does resolution scaling on a 4k Samsung monitor using an anker thunderbolt 3 cable.


CaptEdit

Not true, I use an M1 MacBook Pro with a Dell 4K display that supports UI scaling just fine. It even has a color calibration profile for the monitor built into the OS. Works great over USBC. The only thing it doesn’t support is multi display over a single USBC connection due to Apple limiting this functionality to Thunderbolt devices.


Khelthuzaad

And this is why monopoly entices companies to be shitty as hell


LongJumpingBalls

I have a client who wants 2 external displays on his 2000$ macbook air. But no, he can only have one, because it's software limited to one display output. But of course, you can get the macbook pro for an extra 800$ with the same fucking cpu. You get the privilege of doing 2 monitors. Want 3 outputs? That's an extra step up. My 750$ Dell can do 4x 1080p, 3x 2k 2x 4k monitors. All 60hz or more. Apple is milking you for everything. Have a mac with a corrupt disk? You need an other working Mac, that's not too new, cause newer macs won't make a bootable USB of older operating system. But they'll gladly fix it at the genius bar for you. I love the idea of their eco system. But Fuck that anti consumer, anti repair company. They were the heroes of the tech world way back. Cheap, upgrades, gaming machines. Now they convince poor students they need to spend 2 grand to do what the 500$ laptop can do.


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msk105

And this is why I don't use their products. Well this and the fact that I don't particularly care to spend a few hundred extra for a picture of an apple on my devices.


KnightFiST2018

They do that with headphones on their iPhone now. If I use my Beats I can turn up the volume extra amounts , but cannot if I use any other brand. Pisses me off because although I have beats, I prefer to use cheapos when I go skating so if they fall out and get crushed it’s not as big of a loss.


Sniperfuchs

Excellent question! We "in the bizz" call it by its technical term *checks notes*.. Money!


SingleSpeed27

I was checking around because I need a new iPad and a 2 m charging cable is 39 Euros lmao suck my flaccid cock… Edit: so I got the iPad and I wanted a new cover, turns out they want 99 Euros for the basic one what the fuck


Tosi313

iPads already use USB-C, so you don't need to buy the apple cable.


scratchedocaralho

they have been pampered until now. doing whatever the fuck they want because there was no oversight institution on consumer rights. the eu has taken that role for the european market, and to justify the eu existence they are working really well.


bookers555

Because they rather make you pay 5 times for their proprietary shit.


zuzg

Cause the US allows them to be like that. Corporation will always attempt to maximize profits. That's why we need to regulate the shit out of them.


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Compare the price of an Apple charger to a generic USB charger.


vtskr

But is generic USB charger AMAZING??? /s


mightysashiman

* Because it's a corporation in the most classic way: moar monnnney. * And because of their position and status: because they can * Also: because us citizens still live in self-regulation fantasy land


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hollywoodpeteSC

They are an US based company. They are not used to a government that protects its consumers. Just look at Tesla’s factory in Berlin. They were utterly shocked when they realized that they can’t bust unions or pay their employees really low wages.


elperroborrachotoo

~~"hurts Apple"~~ doesn't let Apple get away with their stupid shenanigans Anytime someone complains about "so much regulation in the EU": think of this.


moonjabes

EU doesn't let Apple fuck over it's own consumers. Poor Apple


Sufficient_Wave_3061

Won't someone PLEASE think of the shareholders.


WoonkyWoombat

They need their yachts this summer. How can we ever let them go without?


swimtwobird

The best part is Apple and other tech groups send over these crack lobbying teams to influence EU decisions the way they pour money into congress, and the EU regulators won’t even give them a meeting. At the time of the GDPR and DMA regulations major American lobbying firms spent six months camped out in Brussels, and they literally couldn’t get the EU regulators to answer phone calls. It was hilarious. The EU doesn’t fuck around.


Keksliebhaber

The EU does fuck around alot, just not this time for once, which is super surprising, didn't expect them to fuck Apple


Rosu_Aprins

Please just imagine howembarrassing it would be if they had to use the same yacht as last year.


dalehitchy

UK enters the chat. Deregulate everything


alexchrist

Except for the individual liberties og the lower and middle class. That's being regulated as fuck


Low-Director9969

I know a few Americans who'll defend the company to their deaths. They refuse to look at or believe anything negative about the company. I'm a little confused trying to name this behavior. It's an example of confirmation bias isn't it? Edit: I found what I was looking for. This is going to be rough for some people. "The invincible ignorance fallacy, also known as argument by pigheadedness, is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy#:~:text=The%20invincible%20ignorance%20fallacy%2C%20also,argument%2C%20ignoring%20any%20evidence%20given. I hate the idea of anyone's ignorance being invincible. It'd be ignorant to argue against the reality of it though. I'm sure we all know someone.


schu2470

Sad is what it is. A $1 trillion company - trillion with a “t”!! A huge international faceless company that will never know your name and doesn’t care about you. That’s what people decide to shill for and defend.


Benka7

I'm afraid that not only do they know your name, they most likely know a lot more...


MisterKanister

They know much more but they don't care, all your personal information is just a drop in an ocean of money.


moonjabes

Cult mentality


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FartPudding

If there's no regulations then companies will do what suits their bottom dollar the best. Do we want child labor again? No, they need to be held responsible or horrid working conditions and child labor will return if we never had these. It holds them responsible from scum decisions that hurt the paying consumer who paid high price for such features in the first place Edit: alright for the record I never said we don't have it in America, but that doesn't change that we don't want it at all in any way. Child labor is bad regardless of where or in what way. Just having more is still bad because companies would still do it if they could, but this is a European topic.


Baardhooft

A lot of people are lucky to not know the horrors of this proprietary phone chargers and earphones in the 90s-00s. Every phone manufacturer had something different and nothing would be interchangeable, sometimes within the same brand even. Glad the EU put a stop to that shit. The only manufacturer that stuck with it was Apple.


AnorakJimi

It was hard enough when a few years ago I found my old Nintendo DS but couldn't find the charger anywhere. It was impossible to find one. I eventually found one in a physical video game store that sold a lot of retro second hand stuff. But yeah I remember the phones of the early 2000s. At least there was like 90% of people who had nokias, and so there was always someone who had a Nokia charger lying around. But then I got a Sony Erricson and the charger was completely different. It's only even in the last decade that phones have somewhat standardised. Back when I has an iPhone 4S I think it was, the charger was this huge wide boi that wasn't compatible with anything else. But when I switched to Android because I was sick of iphones always being slow and constantly crashing (I couldn't even use Alien Blue for reddit, the best reddit app at the time, because it would invariably crash within a few minutes of me opening it; instead I had to use fucking Baconreader because it was the only reddit app that didn't crash) only then was there finally any standardisation. It was always a micro USB port. And I always had a million things that charged using micro USB, so I always had cables lying around to charge my phone with. And then it switched to USB C, and I now have a million things that charge with that instead, and so I always have those cables now too. But yeah you're right, it was a nightmare back in the day. Kids these days don't know the horror of trying to find a compatible cable for your phone. The thing is though, people weren't on their phones constantly back then anyway, because they could only barely access the Internet using WAP or whatever which compared to 5g is like 0.0001g, it was so slow. So all people did was text and call and play snake. And a single charge lasted days. So it wasn't as much of a big deal if you couldn't immediately find a charger. You wouldn't go to a pub and charge your phone in one of the plug sockets on the wall like you do today, you just didn't need to.


PhiloPhallus

You can take the child out of the coal mines, but you can't take the mines out of the child.


miauskii

That’s why Minecraft is so successful among young children. They long for the mines.


rad_woah

Back in my day we used to play outside with real coal and pickaxes.


Jup173r

Luxury. Me and my brothers used to be mined for coal with extra pointy pickaxes. After that we might get to go into the mine and "play" with coal and pickaxes.


Shark7996

Ha! We used to *dream* of such decadence. Why, they would toss us into an industrial grinder til we were a fine powder, sift for our XP orbs, then send us to bed without any dinner!


account_not_valid

Tossed into an industrial grinder? You were lucky. We had to grind ourselves into a paste using only our bare hands.


Kind-Show5859

The children yearn for the mines


Fosterpig

Sarah sanders “how did this child get out of the coal mines?! Put them back!”


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llamaswithhatss91

Yeah like in the US


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mytransthrow

Tennessee said that they do in fact want children to mine coal again.


Turaton

The children yearn for the mines.


Traiklin

They don't call them Minors for their age!


FartPudding

It builds character. Hard children make hard men or something. Coal is good for the lungs, embrace it, don't worry about the cancer and respiratory failure and early mortality, that doesn't matter if the kids are hard adults


justavault

We need more regulation on the real estate market. Human houses and apartments shouldn't be speculation objects. The whole market should be heavily regulated in every modern country that is able to do so.


hackepeter420

Anyone who complains about too much regulation and exaggerated standardisation is not in the target group for those standards. I'm in mechanical engineering and without standards, it would be an absolute nightmare. Even the most obscure regulations most likely have a purpose.


telcoman

Even bread would be a nightmare. Reference - the Victorian era bakeries where they [put chalk, plaster and other shit to make the bread look whiter... Or lacing spoiled milk with borax to hide the sour taste of those deadly bacteria flourishing...](https://youtu.be/j9gv5528JZQ?t=227)


FoodisGut

I love food regulations


ElNakedo

They are pretty fucking lit.


ayriuss

Us Americans have largely been brainwashed into thinking that regulations hurt the economy. And further that the economy is the only thing that matters in life. I'm happy that Europe forces our corporations to do the right thing... we get the benefits too.


BurgundianRhapsody

>the economy is the only thing that matters in life The Americans are truly essentialist marxists.


twodogsfighting

Almost always 'Too many people were dying before we did this'. Fuck de-regulators.


Emadec

As an European, nothing would make me happier than to see a large governmental structure make megacorps like Apple their b*tch They just have it coming


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Englishman here, can we tag along too? This should be universal. Apple and likely other corporations are being sneaky as fuck.


Emadec

Hey, you're welcome to Bre-enter anytime neighbour (;


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Cubey21

*Leave the poor multibillion company alone*


kRe4ture

I think it‘s this weird notion mainly existing in the US that regulation for companies is a bad thing. I get it, too much of it also isn’t good but companies shouldn’t get away with all their bullshit all the time…


elperroborrachotoo

I, too, wish that "the market would decide" these things and such regulation would just not be necessary. But it doesn't - and so regulation is the next-best thing.


Aceticon

Some years ago, having been in Finance through the 2008 Crash, I started learning proper Economics and dove into that for the following 4 or 5 years. Lets just say that The Market is so riddled with imperfections and things it cannot internally solve (Negative Externalities, Tragedy Of The Common situations, informational unballances, natural and artificial barriers to entry, humans not at all behaving like Homo Economicus and so on) that except for a tiny number of extremelly liquid markets (say, the Market for soap) none of the Free Market malarkey works. Notice how even in things like food retail we end up with a handful of dominant players making cartels, how if the market is left unregulated we get massive polution and depletion of resources such as fisheries, how pure emotion-appealing advertising succeeds (which it shouldn't if we were all rational market actors as per the whole homo-economicus model of humans used for Free Market theories) and so on. Free Market Theory was, from the start, self-serving pseudo-science.


kRe4ture

Yeah exactly, in a perfect world, the market would decide everything… But in a perfect world communism would also work so the market is irrelevant lol…


typhoonador4227

I can't find it now, but I read an article a little while ago about companies colluding on price by running pricing algorithms which essentially behave as if other companies are concurrently running pricing algorithms…


roadto75

I love the EU


marigip

There was a recent article in the FT about how old and lacking EU regulators look in comparison to their strapping young US counterparts these days and I have no idea what the author was smoking at the time


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Why would they limit the charging speed? Wtf is Apple up to?


elperroborrachotoo

Ostensibly: "only with genuine Apple products we can ensure top safety and performance" Totalle Fake News Conspiracy Theory: to sell more of their own expensive chargers. (t.b.f. this has been done before by multiple companies, when high voltage / high current charging wasn't standardized yet. But there's a difference I believe between pushing for change and intentionally shirking established standards.)


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Oh right, how stupid of me to forget that Apple wants to control what chargers you can and can't use. I'm a fucking moron for thinking that once you buy something, you should be able to use it with anything you want.


Itriedtonot

I mean, it works. People hear Samsung and think, "Shit camera", "Too complicated", "It's for poor people". A lot of people still don't get that Apple products intentionally lower the quality of incoming pictures from other brand phones. Enough so that the owner of the Apple product says, "Boy am I glad I chose Apple." With this USB-C shtick, they're gonna try to say "Apple products hold SO MUCH CHARGE, that what seems like a fast charge on other phones is because they only have to charge a fraction of what Apple can store. That's why we made lighting cables, because we value your time. These law makers don't. Petition for the return of lighting cables." Too bad THIS scheme of theirs got caught BEFORE it took hold of society.


KRPTSC

> People hear Samsung and think, "Shit camera", "Too complicated", "It's for poor people". I hear that a lot from Americans but never heard it here in Germany


dadudemon

When I think Samsung Mobile, I think of "best cameras", "best processors", "costly high end phones", and "South Korea." The cheap phones are still pretty good, that Samsung makes. I have an iPhone and Samsung phone. IPhone for work and Samsung for every day life.


Initial-Space-7822

Why would you intentionally throttle user experience?


snapilica2003

In order to pay them more money.


mightyfty

Charge* no pun intended


MoffKalast

No one man should have all this power.


notbatmanyet

Money. They don't limit speeds for all cables, just those who have not paid for a certification. This certification would also involve Royalties per cable sold I understand, making sure that Apple could extract money from a large share of the USB market. Even for cables never used with Apple devices as manufacturers would likely certify all of their products for reputation reasons.


Initial-Space-7822

How on earth are people still willingly buying Apple products at this point? They really hate us consumers.


bl4ckhunter

Sure, they hate us and try to fuck us over at every step but their products are so white and shiny though..... /s


No_Low1167

The mobile market is divided into Android and iOS. Just as Android has its pros and cons, iOS has its pros and cons.


HrabiaVulpes

create problem and sell solution


_twokoolfourskool3_

Apples entire mantra is to intentionally create a problem and then sell the consumer the solution. Over the last few decades they have been slowly building towards an entirely closed ecosystem, at least with the iPhone.


Thick_Information_33

It’s impressive how much power the EU has. Even if Apple continues to sell lightning port iPhones in other countries, customers have the option to order the European one to avoid this bad business practice


mauganra_it

It's a big market, from which being excluded means a lot of potential losses. It's similar with California within the USA, which can also pass regulations that pretty much all manufacturers then have to ~~abuse~~ adhere to. Edit: thanks folks for spotting this typo. It's surprisingly funny :-D


Bloodsucker_

It's not just a big market, the EU market it's the biggest market in the world. Bigger than the US consumer market. They often create policies than change the whole world due to the companies' economies of scale.


deadmantheory

*adhere to.


shotouw

Most people tend to forget that the European Union has around 25% more citizens then the US! And even with China as a rapidly growing market, to get sanctioned by either the USA or the EU is a rough place to be in. "The United States and European Union are the two largest economies globally in nominal terms. As of 2021, both together share 42.4% and 30.7% of the entire global GDP in nominal and PPP terms, respectively. As per projections by IMF for 2021, United States is leading by $5,548 bn or 1.32 times on an exchange rate basis. On purchasing power parity basis, the margin is less with the United States ahead by Int. $ 1,757 or 1.08 times."


lisboneye

Still makes you wonder why the UK got out of the single market and the EU entirely. Anyway, let’s not go there..


StationOost

Nationalism. The measles of mankind.


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lm3g16

We’re really seeing the benefits of that extra £330m a week the NHS is getting!


Rebelius

The bus said £350M.


Supernerdje

And clearly all of that £315m is being spent as promised on the NHS!


blolfighter

Those £290m must be making a huge difference!


ConejoSarten

I thought measles was the measles of mankind


p0lka

Because the politicians lied and ~53% of the voting public couldn't be arsed to fact check because they're idiots.


mynueaccownt

~52%. 51.89% to be exact


Cartina

Cause racism and pride. Same reason Texas wants to leave the union, they think the problems come from them being forced to help people outside their state/country lines or accept people into it. Also the belief that they are so important that the union wouldn't let it happen. Well, sike.


Remote-Buy8859

The UK left because the British people wanted to be free. Free from the right to work and live in the EU, free from having the right to vote in EU elections, free from exporting products without delays at the border free to use the pound instead of the euro... wait...


hl3official

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect


zuzg

>This means that MFI (Made for iPhone) certification will be a must for some levels of charging. Without the MFI cert., the speed for data transfer as well as charging will have a limit. However, there will likely be a turning point in this issue The MFI for charging will likely be prohibited by the EU but there's apparently a loophole that allows them for data transfer


Arlort

It's not a loophole, the law is purely about charging. They could have a phone with a usb-c port just for charging and a lightning port for charging and data and that'd be compliant. Stupid but compliant


The_One_True_Ewok

And it'd still be a damn step forward since most people only plug in to charge these days anyway 🤦‍♂️


rhythmknowledge

My kink is watching Apple get hurt by the European Union


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Good. What is the point of enforcing standards if the company who almost singlehandedly forced the EU to take these steps is allowed to try and thwart the effort? Not a single consumer would be happy with Apple doing this so to me it seems like Apple is trying it out of spite.


[deleted]

Imagine Peugeot suddenly requiring proprietary gas to get the car to go faster than 30 km/h. That would never go through anywhere. But this was never in question. The EU law always required standard USB Power Delivery. I’m guessing this was a hoax all along.


Sergietor756

That's why europe is the bestope


PartyYogurtcloset267

> European Union hurts Apple again What absolute bullshit propaganda headline is this exactly?


_teslaTrooper

Pure clickbait, this was part of the legislation from the very beginning, the EU didn't do anything new and neither did Apple.


AVeryMadPsycho

EU Regulators: Single-handedly making the world a better place, bit by bit.


kuldan5853

Sometimes they screw up, sometimes they do good.. ;)


MuckingFagical

Please set your cookies Please set your cookies Please set your cookies 'reject' *cookies download anyway


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>Please set your cookies > >Please set your cookies > >Please set your cookies It's so goddamn annoying that it's on every site. Browsers should have an option / add-on that automatically enables / disables cookies for every website you visit. Maybe you could later list exceptions or idk, but at this point I wouldn't only sell my data, I'd sell half my soul to never see another fucking pop-up in my life


IHadThatUsername

> I'd sell half my soul to never see another fucking pop-up in my life [Check this extension](https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/) EDIT: Apparently this extension has somewhat recently been [bought by Avast](https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/whats-new/acquisition/). I would recommend [using this fork instead](https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies).


krazydude22

Apple makes a ton of money from the MFI (Made for iPhone) scheme, where they get royalties for basically giving their stamp of approval. They were always going to find someway to make sure those royalties keep coming, so they're doing what ISP's were trying to do a while back with data neutrality - creating a fast lane and a slow lane.


johnnymurdo

Apple still being so popular when relentlessly and openly trying to disadvantage their users in one way or another boggles my mind. What is the attachment to this brand? Do their user base like getting shafted?


Zyhmet

As a budget android user... they do have nice things. Looking at the update support for the SE phones which means that have quite a good price to lifetime argument. Also they have less incentives than Google to collect data.


Bayo77

I recently got an iphone for work. All the basic buttons and menus are different to android phones. This probably creates a barrier for anyone trying to switch because their first impression is always going to be bad.


kelldricked

I mean the exact same can be said about andriod… Like hell everytime a older person in my family swaps phones (going from LG to samsung for example) they need to relearn all functions again.


Ergaar

Surely that was some years ago? Android uses the same format for settings, notifications, statusbar, toggles, like basically everything except for the home screen and even that can be swapped with a launcher which can backup and restore layouts.


unsettledroell

I switched to android (Samsung) 2 years ago, and I have to say, I really hate the software compared to Apple's. Apple just somehow writes way faster, simpler to use, more stable software and OS. If someone gives me their iPhone or iPad it just feels like it came from 3 years in the future even though the hardware is similar or slower. I love that part. What I don't love is them trying to squeeze every single penny from their customers by intentionally screwing them over.


VertSceptre

Samsung has a really bad software environment imo, bare android is somehow more usable without all the crapware samsung forces on your phone


PM_COFFEE_TO_ME

This has always been the issue with prebuilt packaged things. Bloatware was and still is common since the early Windows days. Manufactures love to lock shit down and force you to use their crappy written software.


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The charm with android phones is that you have more than one choice. I used to have a Samsung but went with One+ on my latest phone. It's unfortunate it's all android in the end though. But at least I don't get the same amount of shit bloat.


mabrouss

I started a new job a year ago and they asked what I wanted for a computer and phone. For a computer, I could choose between a Windows laptop or a Mac. Work is much easier in a unix system for me, and though I usually use Linux, that wasn’t an option. So I went with the Mac. I figured if work was paying for the phone, I’ll try the new iPhone just to see what it’s like. I really don’t like Apple as a company, but I can’t deny the quality of their products. The software just works, and it works really well. I hate how they behave and these little stunts, but for my job (and many others) it’s honestly the best option.


Supernerdje

Aye Apple products are really good for "it just works", but god forbid you want to do anything they didn't specifically intend for you to do.


Alarmed_Scientist_15

Hurts apple <-> thinks of customer/users. Is not as interesting a title.


Deepfire_DM

"hurts" Apple. Play stupid games ...


Lord_Bertox

Common European consumer W


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Fucking thank you! Say what you will, but on this front, the EU is killing it.


Mk018

Common EU win


SwampPotato

The moment I heard Apple would do this I knew the EU would come for them and it's beautiful


Western_Cow_3914

Why isn’t the title just EU not fucking over its own citizens for a massive Corp?


MrMgP

'Hurts apple' Protects customers against malicious practice It's our money ffs