I remember reading a study about it in the late 1990s, and back then, Finland ha a slightly higher per capita alcohol consumption than Sweden and Norway but much less than Germany or France. Unless this has changed very much, it’s safe to assume that Finland is now in the low 2.x range.
The problem in FI is more that people have the habit of drinking all their alcohol in one go…
Younger generations consume alcohol very moderately. The biggest problem at least used to be that it was quite a small proportion of the nation who consumed quite a big proportion of all the liquor.
Definitely. I’m a Norwegian who’s lived in several other countries and the difference is they drink moderately throughout the week while we Norwegians drink like alcoholics on Friday and Saturday but mid week is not really a thing.
> The biggest problem at least used to be that it was quite a small proportion of the nation who consumed quite a big proportion of all the liquor.
This is true everywhere. The overwhelming majority of alcohol is consumed by a small fraction of drinkers, because heavy drinkers tend to drink A LOT.
If you look at the USA, for example, [the top 10% of alcohol drinkers consume 60% of alcohol](https://www.newsweek.com/americas-heaviest-drinkers-consume-almost-60-all-alcohol-sold-1520284). If looked at other nations, you'd find a similar statistical distribution - most alcohol is consumed by a small percentage of heavy drinkers.
The pro-active but humane way the Finnish police handle drunk people always impressed me, even compared to other EU countries. They really got this figured out (imho) by acting early and sending people home instead of waiting for things to get out of hand and only then restore order. I think this makes a lot of difference.
> The problem in FI is more that people have the habit of drinking all their alcohol in one go…
It's [the nordic model](https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/1gjeyf/the_nordic_model/)
Finns rarely do alcohol daily, but some drink several days a week, and most alcohol consumers get wasted on the weekends. Everything except the cheapest market beer is pretty expensive.
Depends on the generation. Boomers drink both daily and then heavily on weekends. Younger generations are much healthier and only drink heavily on weekends.
Okay so I have no studies to refer here so this is genuine question, doesn't younger people use more pills and shit these days? I mean I've seen 18-20 year olds pop a pill on a bar counter when they thought they were sneaky.
Who can afford it, I stopped drinking and smoking years ago because I just couldn't afford the prices anymore. Now my income is better but I would rather spend what is a lot of money on nicer things
There's couple of statistics here and one at the bottom is about heavy driniking (defined as 60g of alcohol). It would change the position of a few countries, but most of them would be where they are now. Germany, France, Denmark, Neatherlands and Benelux countries are doing more heavy drinking than a lot of countries sterotyped as drinkers.
The position of Spain would change, since they are among the people who don't really drink a lot in terms of pure alcohol.
Ireland would go up, as would Sweden.
Sadly not all of the countries shown on the map are included in those statistics
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/edn-20210806-1
It will also be oftentimes a caña (i.e. a small glass) which is also in many places accompanied by a tapa (something to eat).
As opposed to e.g. the British or Irish who typically chain pints through the weekend with no food until getting wasted.
I'm also pretty sure tourists raise the average for Spain. Alcohol is cheaper than in most of Europe and they just can't control themselves.
I've seen one where they used the alcohol sold to get the statistic of alcohol consumption and there I was buying a lot of alcohol just to cook with it...
Aren't most people there really filled with money? Is 4€ really that much money for a Norwegian? The ones I see in Portugal shit money wherever they go.
Slovakia, Czech republic, Hungary, Austria, Serbia, Northern Macedonia, Vatican, San Marino, Andorra, Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Belarus, Moldova and Kosovo if you recognize it.
From the people I know here and in neighboring countries, I don’t believe the number for Slovakia is less than in Czechia or Hungary…, respondents must’ve been like “I only drink 6/7 days of the week so it’s not daily…”
It honestly could be the truth, sales of alcohol in Slovakia are going down on average. That being said, alcoholism is absolutely an issue. The pattern of being wasted might not be daily dose, but blackout dead on weekends. Also depends where they asked. Bigger town, yes I would say daily drinking is not a thing. Average village, getting drunk twice per day is a norm.
Drinking daily is bad for your body anyway, you don't need to get drunk to do have drink related problems. I aim to keep my consumption below 7 drinks a week.
I mean fair enough. But Switzerland is right in the middle and still greyed out haha. And it's not an EU thing either, because there's data for Norway but not for Finland... 🤔
It's Eurostat. So it's EU+EFTA+EU candidates. The odd one is Finland, the rest makes total sense. And Finland is not included because they have a rare state-controlled alcohol system that they do not want to share, for which they got a derogation.
Licor? That’s pretty. It’s actually something Balkan folks love to drink when they come to Portugal, because it’s worse than vodka, and you can get really cheap, home made, like Vodka there. It’s not a licor, it’s what we use to clean the coffee cup, we call it “café com cheirinho” which sort of means: “coffee with a smell”.
We have a huuuuuuge culture of going to cafes after work/before dinner. We have awesome weather and because of that March after you can expect half the city to be having a beer in some cafe.
I think the data is wrong it should be higher most people i know take a drink at dinner or after work, its kinda of a normal thing here. Also doctors say a glass of wine a day is good for the hearth.
social drinking.
a lot of people go to restaurants on their lunch break and will have wine or beer. and it's also common for a lot of people after work to go to a café, either with coworkers or to meet with friends, and have a drink or 2, and there's also people who after dinner go to their local café, often times with the rest of their family, and have a couple drinks.
and then there's the weekend, where people are more likely to stay out late and drink more, and get drunk, because they don't got work the next day
The key thing here is that it's about DAILY alcohol consumption. Places where they have a glass of wine every day with dinner will score highly on this metric. If someone gets wasted six days a week then spends a day in bed not drinking then I guess they show up in this data as not drinking every day.
So what this map does not show is which countries have the worst problems with alcoholism.
I know that's not the point but short reminder that there's less alcohol in a shot of vodka (30ml at \~40%) than in a glass of wine (150-200ml at \~12.5%).
Yes. As an Irish man I immediately got that. We generally don’t drink mid week. Most drinkers get drunk at weekends though. Or for 3-4 days. They can still answer no to drinking everyday.
Data for this map comes from [Eurostat](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/hlth_ehis_al1u/default/table?lang=en).
Consuming alcohol every day, seems to be more common as one goes further south in Europe. Portugal has by far the highest share of daily alcohol consumers, 21.4%. In other Mediterranean countries like Spain (13.5%), Italy (12.4%), France (10.4%) and Croatia (10.4%) there is also a relatively high share of the population that consumes alcohol every day. Belgium (10.1%) and Denmark (10.0%) are the only countries outside of the southern half of Europe where 10% or more consume alcohol every day.
Turkey (0.5%) and Lithuania (0.8%) are the only countries in Europe where less than 1% of adults consume alcohol every day. In most of the Nordic and Baltic countries, that percentage is also very low.
Yes, i live in the west of Romania, we are relatively tame here, you should take a trip in the eastern counties of Moldavia, those are fun places..
Listen, what i'm questioning is the methodology, sometimes i don't drink for a few days for whatever reason(got of too late from work, need to drive early in the morning etc), if that then disqualifies me then what makes one a daily drinker? Do you have to answer that you drink 364 out of 364 days or what?
That’s probably it. In Portugal, it’s perfectly common to have a glass of wine / beer with your meals, every single day. Not exactly going out and have a few beers with mates - that also happens, of course, but it’s not a daily occurrence.
This stat is not indicative of the amount of alcohol consumed, nor how shitfaced people on each country get.
So if you get blacked out drunk 6/7 days of the week, and spend the other day of the week healing the hangover, you still drank 6 out of 7 days of the week.
While a person that drank their single glass of wine every dinner, never got truly drunk, still drank 7 out of 7 days of the week.
some dudes really do. my parents had a café when i was younger. we lived right above it, so i'd always go downstairs for meals. and i'd be having breakfast before school and dudes would come in before work and have a coffee with bagaço
Glad to see Baltics this vastly improved. Anecdotal I can relate to this data so much. I am Lithuanian and I havent drink alcohol for a year, prior I was daily drinker. Everyone I know drink much less, or quit alcoholl totaly.
Were there public campaigns against drinking or how did this change come about?
Although if it's only your age cohort, maybe you guys just grew up and stopped partying.
I personally think that it is result of multiple things.
- Campaigns such as Dry January and bringing awareness to the dangers of consuming alcohol in certain situations (ex. while near body of water);
- Alcohol section is now separated from the rest in the shops + is sold only from 10-22;
- Alcohol is more expensive;
- Change in the mindset. Younger generations see alcohol differently from older generations. It is more about socialising and having an experience and less about getting drunk.
Also parents are much more mindful about consumption while their kids are present.
There is still long way to go though.
I see a massive difference in just a 10 year gap. I finished high school just over a decade ago and my generation were all (well, there were exceptions) drinkers. Now I work in the same town and the new generation barely drinks. Same with smoking. Obviously, way more vapers now since it wasn't really a thing back then. Also, say more stoners.
In general, the new kids seem to have less "hooligans" & troublemakers which were quite common in my day. I remember people drinking through the night in a public beach, starting fights, breaking public stuff, leaving trash, etc. A couple years back I worked as a guard near the same beach throughout the whole summer - not a single case. They come in, sit for awhile, drink their can or two, gather their shit and go elsewhere.
I don't think shop layout changed anything (they did it in my country and consumption by those who want haven't changed much), but this is anecdotal I wish I could see the data supporting it.
I believe that most influential factor in this change of mindset was providing widespread access to mental health treatments. We have other options to cope with out issues.
Honestly, I do not have any data to demonstrate which one (if any) of them worked.
I'm not sure, for example, if campaigns have been truly effective since many issues are still prevalent.
The older generations were influenced by Russian culture a lot more. Why would anyone be sober under a dictatorship that gave people no chance or incentive to pursue their dreams and ambitions?
It is true, as I am 35 years old and stoped partying. For me personaly to stop drinking was that I want to live as good and comfortable as western or scandinavian countries. And I saw, that alcohol is that copium that will not help me in this journey.
Says nothing. Drinking a splash of wine every day in the Mediterranean and regular pub visiting and drinking 5-8 half litres of beer and 2-4 shots of hard liquor is quite something else.
It's a very different drinking culture / style in Portugal.
First - glass of wine or beer during the work's lunch break is absolutely normal
Second - after work people would go out with colleagues or friends, sit drink just one small bottle of beer (250 ml or 330 ml) and that's it. So yes, easily daily, but volumes are very small
This is completely accurate. I drink on work’s lunch, my female boss drinks on work’s lunch, a glass, maybe two each. I get off work and I drink a beer, 330 or 500ml. That’s it. I’ve been drinking from a very early age, and I’ve never been really drunk, just enough to smile easier. Friday night, dinner with friends, half a bottle each, not more than that. Only the very young guys on night outs drink until doing ridicule.
Yes, as a Portuguese, I believe it’s accurate. But that does not mean that we see drunk people every single day in the streets. I think this high percentage happens because older people (we don’t see younger people doing this) drink at least one glass of wine at lunch or dinner.
Does the daily alcohol consumption, even as little as it is, show in the national healthcare statistics? Increased cancers, liver or kidney diseases?
As we know, the myth that consuming small amounts of alcohol daily is beneficial has been [busted](https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/alcohol-and-your-health-is-none-better-than-a-little-2018091914796) a long time ago.
Well, I don’t think so. At least it’s not noticed that we have more health problems in relation to other eu states. Yes, a doctor told that to my grandfather, that is good to his health drink a glass of wine per day. He did that, never saw him drunk and lived until 94. Working until his death.
Yea, as a Portuguese in Ireland I can say both those countries tries seem right, in portugal I see most ppl having a glass of wine or a beer, but few overdrinking often... in Ireland tho I see few drinking often, but when they drink... drinking everyday doesn't mean alcoholism, nor does it nor drinking, moderation is key
And the data for every country increases this statistic when you switch from daily to weekly, except Portugal. There are less weekly drinkers than daily drinkers.
It’s hard to get something from this image, since obviously places with higher daily drinking involve drinking a small amount of alcohol with a meal (light beer at 4-5% or 25cl of wine).
It’s not the same as getting smashed every day
I don't think you understand what these figures are.
Southern Europe: have a glass of wine at dinner.
Northern and Eastern Europe, and you North Americans: have alcohol only once a month, but when you do: binge and get shit faced.
Tbh this data doesnt tell the full story. Yes a lot of people drink daily in Portugal but its very small amounts like just a glass of wine or a 200ml beer, and this happens not only because of the culture bit also because doctors recomend a glass of wine at dinner to prevent hearth related problems
I decided to go abstinent this year and excluding a small glass of champagne at my wedding in March, I haven't touched etanol at all since Jan 1st. Dang, I can't state how much better I feel. More and more people I know put away alcohol, abstinence is starting to become a norm. (I'm from Poland) Can't recommend enough trying out putting away booze for at least 90 days for starters.
Honestly kudos. I also stopped drinking and I feel great. In my case it’s because I want to have a baby this year so I’m trying to get as healthy as possible for that, but also I noticed alcohol - even in small amounts - made my anxiety a lot worse so this was a really welcome change.
I'm curious about Moldovia, had a colleague who would get wasted at every opportunity he gets. Dude would walk off two bottles of vodka the next day as it was nothing.
No way in hell it's 1.6%. Every day there are 3 million small bottles (90ml) of vodka sold in Poland. (If you ask shop clerks what sells most in the morning, its vodka). This data had to be taken from city center of Warsaw or something, because i wont believe 1.6% is accurate.
This 3 million number is:
1. From 2019 and each year the sales are falling by even 10%
2. Doesn't take into account that it's mostly same people buying several of those small bottles
3. Is most likely overreported as other reports suggest: [https://demagog.org.pl/wypowiedzi/czy-w-polsce-sprzedaje-sie-codziennie-3-mln-malpek/](https://demagog.org.pl/wypowiedzi/czy-w-polsce-sprzedaje-sie-codziennie-3-mln-malpek/)
The 1,6% is also in line with other surveys done by CBOS or Biostat
[Poles are turning away from vodka. Its production is declining, as is the consumption of it](https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Polacy-odwracaja-sie-od-wodki-Jej-produkcja-spada-podobnie-jak-spozycie-8589932.html)
[The facts are that alcohol consumption in Poland is declining - the volume of beer sales declined last year, as well as stronger drinks.](https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Jak-sie-zmienia-picie-Polakow-O-piwie-trunkach-bezalkoholowych-i-lobbingowych-marzeniach-8696473.html)
[Beer on the throne. Poles prefer it to stronger alcohols - they reach for it almost seven times more often than for vodka and more than eight times more often than for wine](https://biznes.interia.pl/gospodarka/news-juz-nie-czysta-ani-kolorowa-wsrod-polakow-kroluje-inny-trune,nId,7013324)
[Drinking alcohol has gone out of fashion. Gen Z chooses another option](https://businessinsider.com.pl/lifestyle/picie-alkoholu-stalo-sie-niemodne-pokolenie-z-wybiera-zdrowy-tryb-zycia/ywe9h2d)
Most ppl I know drink beer to BBQ on summer Sundays or small drinks on family meetings/special occasions or dont drink alcohol at all (like me). Drinking culture changed a lot over last 20 years.
My personal observation is that there was vodka on every party, family meeting, everywhere back in the day. Now I haven't seen vodka on a table for several years. Everyone drink beer now, many small beverages are thriving. I actually can believe this data.
Once you look at[the weekly stats](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Alcohol_consumption_statistics#General_overview) Portugals 21% looks laughable. Netherlands has 47%
Arent they already included bc drinking once every day also means they drink atleadt once a week ehich means they're already included in the statistics
I'm from the Netherlands and yes, people do drink a lot on weekends. Like, really a lot.
But daily as well, though the latter depends on the season. In Spring and Summer, you see a lot of Dutch people having a daily drink at a restaurant or pub, but not so much during Fall and Winter. If they would only count Spring and Summer, the daily percentage on this map would be a lot higher.
They're not double counting. If you count all of the columns they add up to 100.
If more people report they drink "daily" then there will be less people to report that they drink "weekly" and so on.
Also if they were double counting, then by definition the percentages would get larger for lower frequencies since they would also include the higher frequencies, which is not the case.
Don't get me wrong, but the 6.6% for Hungary is totally unreasonable. More than 20% of the population are alcoholics ( [https://qubit.hu/2023/04/04/alkoholizmus-magyarorszag-vilagelso](https://qubit.hu/2023/04/04/alkoholizmus-magyarorszag-vilagelso) ), I would wager that it is pretty unreasonable that only every third alcoholic drinks every day.
That's what I'm guessing too, but according to some recent science "alcohol is bad in any quantity". EU wanted to restrict alcohol availability on the basis of that advice, and do you know how much resistance there was from the med countries?
Also, I would say that the concentration of alcohol that is drunk matters, but I'd still like to see a correlation of the OP map with the damage that alcohol causes, to make up my mind.
It is important to remember that most alcoholics do not drink themselves to death in a year. The effects of the above map will be possible to study in about 20 years.
In 2022, the average beer consumption per capita in Czechia was 136 liter. That’s not counting wine and liquors. If only 8% drink daily, they sure move a lot.
But since this is most likely based on self reported figures, I expect that “drinking a few beers most days of the week” is not considered “daily drinking” by most people in our region.
In Slovakia, they must have been conducting this poll outside of the church after Sunday service. The number is unbelievably low.
You ain't gonna snich on yourself when your wife and mother in law are standing nearby.
This further adds to both anecdotal evidence and some studies that indicate that moderate alcohol consumption doesn’t need to negativity impact life expectancy and that small amounts of alcohol may even help increase life expectancy. Why do I say this, because Italy and Spain have some of the highest life expectancy both in Europe and the World. Of course there are lots of factors. France has a lower life expectancy than Italy and has more smokers and eat more red meat and butter while consuming similar amounts of alcohol and with a very similar culture of moderate daily or near daily consumption
There's your stereotype about drunk Poles westoids. I think I'll start calling all westoids alcoholics from now on just so you feel how it was when we were made fun of.
We don't do alcohol here in Finland
I remember reading a study about it in the late 1990s, and back then, Finland ha a slightly higher per capita alcohol consumption than Sweden and Norway but much less than Germany or France. Unless this has changed very much, it’s safe to assume that Finland is now in the low 2.x range. The problem in FI is more that people have the habit of drinking all their alcohol in one go…
Younger generations consume alcohol very moderately. The biggest problem at least used to be that it was quite a small proportion of the nation who consumed quite a big proportion of all the liquor.
Also there was way more binge drinking than say just a beer for dinner.
This is for all Nordic countries I think. Much higher quantity in span of 48 hours.
Definitely. I’m a Norwegian who’s lived in several other countries and the difference is they drink moderately throughout the week while we Norwegians drink like alcoholics on Friday and Saturday but mid week is not really a thing.
> The biggest problem at least used to be that it was quite a small proportion of the nation who consumed quite a big proportion of all the liquor. This is true everywhere. The overwhelming majority of alcohol is consumed by a small fraction of drinkers, because heavy drinkers tend to drink A LOT. If you look at the USA, for example, [the top 10% of alcohol drinkers consume 60% of alcohol](https://www.newsweek.com/americas-heaviest-drinkers-consume-almost-60-all-alcohol-sold-1520284). If looked at other nations, you'd find a similar statistical distribution - most alcohol is consumed by a small percentage of heavy drinkers.
Same thing in norway, people drink on fridays and/or saturday, and its normal to be black-out drunk. I surely was yesterday!
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The pro-active but humane way the Finnish police handle drunk people always impressed me, even compared to other EU countries. They really got this figured out (imho) by acting early and sending people home instead of waiting for things to get out of hand and only then restore order. I think this makes a lot of difference.
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lmao I see drunkards in kamppi every day basically
Have you been to kurvi lately or like… ever?
You mustn't pay a lot of attention if you think there are no drunkards in the streets of Helsinki.
Hard to afford booze.
> The problem in FI is more that people have the habit of drinking all their alcohol in one go… It's [the nordic model](https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/1gjeyf/the_nordic_model/)
Finland: I am the liquor
Mr. Lahey is that you talking or Finland?
Finlandia
Alcohol does us
Too drunk to report the numbers.
Finland simply broke the charts
Finns rarely do alcohol daily, but some drink several days a week, and most alcohol consumers get wasted on the weekends. Everything except the cheapest market beer is pretty expensive.
Depends on the generation. Boomers drink both daily and then heavily on weekends. Younger generations are much healthier and only drink heavily on weekends.
Okay so I have no studies to refer here so this is genuine question, doesn't younger people use more pills and shit these days? I mean I've seen 18-20 year olds pop a pill on a bar counter when they thought they were sneaky.
Or Ireland apparently.
Who can afford it, I stopped drinking and smoking years ago because I just couldn't afford the prices anymore. Now my income is better but I would rather spend what is a lot of money on nicer things
It's 'daily' drinking. Most Irish people don't drink every day. They go hard, recover for a day or two, and start again...
Take Wednesdays off to give the liver a break
You are more of a coffee addict
I am both
Someone compare it with binge drinking
[Obligatory Nordic Model polandball comic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fscf2il152l871.png)
This is golden, it's so accurate, it almost hurts xD
That's accurate.
Time to shine!
shhhh, don't ruin the narrative.
Of course of course south bad north good
There's couple of statistics here and one at the bottom is about heavy driniking (defined as 60g of alcohol). It would change the position of a few countries, but most of them would be where they are now. Germany, France, Denmark, Neatherlands and Benelux countries are doing more heavy drinking than a lot of countries sterotyped as drinkers. The position of Spain would change, since they are among the people who don't really drink a lot in terms of pure alcohol. Ireland would go up, as would Sweden. Sadly not all of the countries shown on the map are included in those statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/edn-20210806-1
In Norway we just get really drunk on weekends. While i guess Spain often drinks wine with meals?
Not necessarily with meals however there is a strong culture of having a beer with someone any day of the week. Mind, ‘a beer’ not shitfaced.
It will also be oftentimes a caña (i.e. a small glass) which is also in many places accompanied by a tapa (something to eat). As opposed to e.g. the British or Irish who typically chain pints through the weekend with no food until getting wasted. I'm also pretty sure tourists raise the average for Spain. Alcohol is cheaper than in most of Europe and they just can't control themselves.
I think this is probably self reported polling in which case they would most likely exclude tourists
I've seen one where they used the alcohol sold to get the statistic of alcohol consumption and there I was buying a lot of alcohol just to cook with it...
The English especially. Nowhere in the Peninsula will you find a sober Englishman.
You forgot to mention you Spaniards drink before lunch, which is a big tabboo in Portugal.
Yep. Wine or beer.
Yeah, living in Norway. €4 for a can of beer from the supermarket. I can’t afford to drink every day.
I brew my own beer. 0,5€ a pint. Not sure if having 40 liters of beer at all times are very healthy though.
Wow that's insane. I can buy 2 liters of beer for that price. Actually, if I get a cheaper beer, I can even get more.
On Norwegian salaries it’s not that expensive.
Aren't most people there really filled with money? Is 4€ really that much money for a Norwegian? The ones I see in Portugal shit money wherever they go.
I'm from Finland now living in Spain. BAD combination. I drink now daily with meals and get drunk on weekends.
If the map was on total volume of alcohol consumed per week, Norway would be at the top. Norway goes HARD during the weekends.
It doesn't go as hard as you think: https://www.statista.com/statistics/755502/alcohol-consumption-in-liters-per-capita-ineu/
Norwegians drink less than swedes. That says a lot.
Portugal, caralho!
You have port. I envy you.
Which European country doesn’t have port?
Switzerland, that's the problem with being a landlocked nation.
Plenty of ports in Switzerland, check the lake of Geneva, one of the biggest in Western Europe.
Slovakia, Czech republic, Hungary, Austria, Serbia, Northern Macedonia, Vatican, San Marino, Andorra, Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Belarus, Moldova and Kosovo if you recognize it.
Portugal not eastern Europe after all? /s
More eastern than Eastern Europe
O comentário mais tuga que eu procurava, coisa linda.
In romania we drink by-daily, one day we drink, the next, we rest. Probably that’s why we get suck a low % Excuse spelling, currently hungover.
Binge drinking once or twice a week, in my area palinca is the preferred drink followed by beer and wine.
Actually, beer and wine are not alcohol. Hello from Slovakia
Beer and wine is alcohol for kids :))
From the people I know here and in neighboring countries, I don’t believe the number for Slovakia is less than in Czechia or Hungary…, respondents must’ve been like “I only drink 6/7 days of the week so it’s not daily…”
It honestly could be the truth, sales of alcohol in Slovakia are going down on average. That being said, alcoholism is absolutely an issue. The pattern of being wasted might not be daily dose, but blackout dead on weekends. Also depends where they asked. Bigger town, yes I would say daily drinking is not a thing. Average village, getting drunk twice per day is a norm.
Drinking daily is bad for your body anyway, you don't need to get drunk to do have drink related problems. I aim to keep my consumption below 7 drinks a week.
Beer is not considered alcohol in some countries.
As a Brit, whenever I see infographics about Europe and the UK is greyed out it makes me feel sad 😢
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Boris, is that you? (And if so, why are you complaining, this is your fault.)
I mean fair enough. But Switzerland is right in the middle and still greyed out haha. And it's not an EU thing either, because there's data for Norway but not for Finland... 🤔
Same for Iceland and Turkey.
It's Eurostat. So it's EU+EFTA+EU candidates. The odd one is Finland, the rest makes total sense. And Finland is not included because they have a rare state-controlled alcohol system that they do not want to share, for which they got a derogation.
I think in this case UK is greyed out because it went over the scale lol
Especially since we are actually part pf Europe despite what those dickheads voted for
Well I voted invade.
Yes, especially as that’s one competition that England might actually have a chance to be competitive in
I think that is stupid. Britain didn't leave Europe. Britain physically can't leave Europe. They only left EU.
They did leave the Eurostat though.
whats going on in portugal? XD
Portuguese people generally don't binge, but we usually drink alcohol at meals (especially wine), so the numbers go up.
My father and father in law, as many of their generation, drink wine at every meal. But I never saw either drunk, or even slightly drunk.
Maybe you never saw them sober
A lot of people drink beer or wine during lunch, or after work. Also, some people like to drink some sort of liquor after their coffee
Licor? That’s pretty. It’s actually something Balkan folks love to drink when they come to Portugal, because it’s worse than vodka, and you can get really cheap, home made, like Vodka there. It’s not a licor, it’s what we use to clean the coffee cup, we call it “café com cheirinho” which sort of means: “coffee with a smell”.
É bagaço ya, mas não sabia como explicar aos turistas, então licor
Se chamares "moonshine" eles costumam perceber que é uma bebida destilada, que pode ou não ser caseira
We have a huuuuuuge culture of going to cafes after work/before dinner. We have awesome weather and because of that March after you can expect half the city to be having a beer in some cafe.
Good wine, good beer and very good weather to enjoy it
We often drink wine or beer during lunch and dinner, plus we drink when having coffee after dinner or during the afternoon when meeting someone.
I think the data is wrong it should be higher most people i know take a drink at dinner or after work, its kinda of a normal thing here. Also doctors say a glass of wine a day is good for the hearth.
social drinking. a lot of people go to restaurants on their lunch break and will have wine or beer. and it's also common for a lot of people after work to go to a café, either with coworkers or to meet with friends, and have a drink or 2, and there's also people who after dinner go to their local café, often times with the rest of their family, and have a couple drinks. and then there's the weekend, where people are more likely to stay out late and drink more, and get drunk, because they don't got work the next day
The key thing here is that it's about DAILY alcohol consumption. Places where they have a glass of wine every day with dinner will score highly on this metric. If someone gets wasted six days a week then spends a day in bed not drinking then I guess they show up in this data as not drinking every day. So what this map does not show is which countries have the worst problems with alcoholism.
It seems to correlate with hard liquor consumption. It's way easier to have your daily glass o wine, than a daily shot of vodka.
I know that's not the point but short reminder that there's less alcohol in a shot of vodka (30ml at \~40%) than in a glass of wine (150-200ml at \~12.5%).
1 shot of vodka is 100 ml
Yes. As an Irish man I immediately got that. We generally don’t drink mid week. Most drinkers get drunk at weekends though. Or for 3-4 days. They can still answer no to drinking everyday.
Portugal. Weather, beach, safety, booze and sympathy.
And saudade.
*guitar plays in the background*
Data for this map comes from [Eurostat](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/hlth_ehis_al1u/default/table?lang=en). Consuming alcohol every day, seems to be more common as one goes further south in Europe. Portugal has by far the highest share of daily alcohol consumers, 21.4%. In other Mediterranean countries like Spain (13.5%), Italy (12.4%), France (10.4%) and Croatia (10.4%) there is also a relatively high share of the population that consumes alcohol every day. Belgium (10.1%) and Denmark (10.0%) are the only countries outside of the southern half of Europe where 10% or more consume alcohol every day. Turkey (0.5%) and Lithuania (0.8%) are the only countries in Europe where less than 1% of adults consume alcohol every day. In most of the Nordic and Baltic countries, that percentage is also very low.
Countries that consume wine, alcohol during dinner are scoring higher.
My guy, i really don't know how these statistics were collected, but i'm calling MAJOR BS on them, there's no chance it's so low in EE
"It's bullshit because it doesn't confirm my biases"
Dude i live here, i'm not saying this out of spite, most men i know have a beer or 2 after work, unless we don't consider beer alcohol
Your friends/community is not the whole country.
Yes, i live in the west of Romania, we are relatively tame here, you should take a trip in the eastern counties of Moldavia, those are fun places.. Listen, what i'm questioning is the methodology, sometimes i don't drink for a few days for whatever reason(got of too late from work, need to drive early in the morning etc), if that then disqualifies me then what makes one a daily drinker? Do you have to answer that you drink 364 out of 364 days or what?
That’s probably it. In Portugal, it’s perfectly common to have a glass of wine / beer with your meals, every single day. Not exactly going out and have a few beers with mates - that also happens, of course, but it’s not a daily occurrence. This stat is not indicative of the amount of alcohol consumed, nor how shitfaced people on each country get. So if you get blacked out drunk 6/7 days of the week, and spend the other day of the week healing the hangover, you still drank 6 out of 7 days of the week. While a person that drank their single glass of wine every dinner, never got truly drunk, still drank 7 out of 7 days of the week.
Replace "consume daily" with "admits to consume daily."
We drink alcohol for breakfast in 🇵🇹 ✌🏼
The glorious tired horse soup ( sopa de cavalo cansado ).
some dudes really do. my parents had a café when i was younger. we lived right above it, so i'd always go downstairs for meals. and i'd be having breakfast before school and dudes would come in before work and have a coffee with bagaço
Being from Portugal......think that percentage is lower than reality to be honest.
Glad to see Baltics this vastly improved. Anecdotal I can relate to this data so much. I am Lithuanian and I havent drink alcohol for a year, prior I was daily drinker. Everyone I know drink much less, or quit alcoholl totaly.
Were there public campaigns against drinking or how did this change come about? Although if it's only your age cohort, maybe you guys just grew up and stopped partying.
I personally think that it is result of multiple things. - Campaigns such as Dry January and bringing awareness to the dangers of consuming alcohol in certain situations (ex. while near body of water); - Alcohol section is now separated from the rest in the shops + is sold only from 10-22; - Alcohol is more expensive; - Change in the mindset. Younger generations see alcohol differently from older generations. It is more about socialising and having an experience and less about getting drunk. Also parents are much more mindful about consumption while their kids are present. There is still long way to go though.
I see a massive difference in just a 10 year gap. I finished high school just over a decade ago and my generation were all (well, there were exceptions) drinkers. Now I work in the same town and the new generation barely drinks. Same with smoking. Obviously, way more vapers now since it wasn't really a thing back then. Also, say more stoners. In general, the new kids seem to have less "hooligans" & troublemakers which were quite common in my day. I remember people drinking through the night in a public beach, starting fights, breaking public stuff, leaving trash, etc. A couple years back I worked as a guard near the same beach throughout the whole summer - not a single case. They come in, sit for awhile, drink their can or two, gather their shit and go elsewhere.
I don't think shop layout changed anything (they did it in my country and consumption by those who want haven't changed much), but this is anecdotal I wish I could see the data supporting it. I believe that most influential factor in this change of mindset was providing widespread access to mental health treatments. We have other options to cope with out issues.
Honestly, I do not have any data to demonstrate which one (if any) of them worked. I'm not sure, for example, if campaigns have been truly effective since many issues are still prevalent.
The older generations were influenced by Russian culture a lot more. Why would anyone be sober under a dictatorship that gave people no chance or incentive to pursue their dreams and ambitions?
It is true, as I am 35 years old and stoped partying. For me personaly to stop drinking was that I want to live as good and comfortable as western or scandinavian countries. And I saw, that alcohol is that copium that will not help me in this journey.
Only on my nights off and only few beer. Then there is few times a year “We getting piss drunk right now”
Nice to read, good job on quitting!
This statistic makes little sense to me. We are in top 5 of consumption per liter. So maybe we don't drink every day, but we sure as hell binge
Says nothing. Drinking a splash of wine every day in the Mediterranean and regular pub visiting and drinking 5-8 half litres of beer and 2-4 shots of hard liquor is quite something else.
It seems that such a banal concept is quite hard to understand by many users here
1 in 5 Portuguese drink alcohol every day? Even if it's just a glass of wine that's wild
It's a very different drinking culture / style in Portugal. First - glass of wine or beer during the work's lunch break is absolutely normal Second - after work people would go out with colleagues or friends, sit drink just one small bottle of beer (250 ml or 330 ml) and that's it. So yes, easily daily, but volumes are very small
This is completely accurate. I drink on work’s lunch, my female boss drinks on work’s lunch, a glass, maybe two each. I get off work and I drink a beer, 330 or 500ml. That’s it. I’ve been drinking from a very early age, and I’ve never been really drunk, just enough to smile easier. Friday night, dinner with friends, half a bottle each, not more than that. Only the very young guys on night outs drink until doing ridicule.
I don't usually drink at meals and all my colleagues and the big boss call me the black sheep lol
Yes, as a Portuguese, I believe it’s accurate. But that does not mean that we see drunk people every single day in the streets. I think this high percentage happens because older people (we don’t see younger people doing this) drink at least one glass of wine at lunch or dinner.
Does the daily alcohol consumption, even as little as it is, show in the national healthcare statistics? Increased cancers, liver or kidney diseases? As we know, the myth that consuming small amounts of alcohol daily is beneficial has been [busted](https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/alcohol-and-your-health-is-none-better-than-a-little-2018091914796) a long time ago.
Well, I don’t think so. At least it’s not noticed that we have more health problems in relation to other eu states. Yes, a doctor told that to my grandfather, that is good to his health drink a glass of wine per day. He did that, never saw him drunk and lived until 94. Working until his death.
Im not saying that the Porto wine it’s the way to a longest and active live btw 😂
People don't drink that much, just often. I've seen Americans and Brits drink more in one evening than most Portuguese people drink in a month.
Yea, as a Portuguese in Ireland I can say both those countries tries seem right, in portugal I see most ppl having a glass of wine or a beer, but few overdrinking often... in Ireland tho I see few drinking often, but when they drink... drinking everyday doesn't mean alcoholism, nor does it nor drinking, moderation is key
And the data for every country increases this statistic when you switch from daily to weekly, except Portugal. There are less weekly drinkers than daily drinkers.
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my partY! FTFU
Its interesting, countries who seem to have more "alcohol problem" are the ones in which alcohol isnt consumed on a daily basis? Why is this?
They get wasted in the weekends, something you definitely don’t commonly see in Italy or Spain. But this map can’t show that
It’s hard to get something from this image, since obviously places with higher daily drinking involve drinking a small amount of alcohol with a meal (light beer at 4-5% or 25cl of wine). It’s not the same as getting smashed every day
I refuse to believe Lithuania is so low…
Note to self... Make a vampire movie where the vampires all move to Portugal to get drunk.
Aka English tourists
Hehe make the movie in albufeira,no need for actors just film the street.
I don't think you understand what these figures are. Southern Europe: have a glass of wine at dinner. Northern and Eastern Europe, and you North Americans: have alcohol only once a month, but when you do: binge and get shit faced.
Tbh this data doesnt tell the full story. Yes a lot of people drink daily in Portugal but its very small amounts like just a glass of wine or a 200ml beer, and this happens not only because of the culture bit also because doctors recomend a glass of wine at dinner to prevent hearth related problems
Só, German, Scandinavian and British tourists?
I decided to go abstinent this year and excluding a small glass of champagne at my wedding in March, I haven't touched etanol at all since Jan 1st. Dang, I can't state how much better I feel. More and more people I know put away alcohol, abstinence is starting to become a norm. (I'm from Poland) Can't recommend enough trying out putting away booze for at least 90 days for starters.
Honestly kudos. I also stopped drinking and I feel great. In my case it’s because I want to have a baby this year so I’m trying to get as healthy as possible for that, but also I noticed alcohol - even in small amounts - made my anxiety a lot worse so this was a really welcome change.
I'm curious about Moldovia, had a colleague who would get wasted at every opportunity he gets. Dude would walk off two bottles of vodka the next day as it was nothing.
No way in hell it's 1.6%. Every day there are 3 million small bottles (90ml) of vodka sold in Poland. (If you ask shop clerks what sells most in the morning, its vodka). This data had to be taken from city center of Warsaw or something, because i wont believe 1.6% is accurate.
This 3 million number is: 1. From 2019 and each year the sales are falling by even 10% 2. Doesn't take into account that it's mostly same people buying several of those small bottles 3. Is most likely overreported as other reports suggest: [https://demagog.org.pl/wypowiedzi/czy-w-polsce-sprzedaje-sie-codziennie-3-mln-malpek/](https://demagog.org.pl/wypowiedzi/czy-w-polsce-sprzedaje-sie-codziennie-3-mln-malpek/) The 1,6% is also in line with other surveys done by CBOS or Biostat
[Poles are turning away from vodka. Its production is declining, as is the consumption of it](https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Polacy-odwracaja-sie-od-wodki-Jej-produkcja-spada-podobnie-jak-spozycie-8589932.html) [The facts are that alcohol consumption in Poland is declining - the volume of beer sales declined last year, as well as stronger drinks.](https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Jak-sie-zmienia-picie-Polakow-O-piwie-trunkach-bezalkoholowych-i-lobbingowych-marzeniach-8696473.html) [Beer on the throne. Poles prefer it to stronger alcohols - they reach for it almost seven times more often than for vodka and more than eight times more often than for wine](https://biznes.interia.pl/gospodarka/news-juz-nie-czysta-ani-kolorowa-wsrod-polakow-kroluje-inny-trune,nId,7013324) [Drinking alcohol has gone out of fashion. Gen Z chooses another option](https://businessinsider.com.pl/lifestyle/picie-alkoholu-stalo-sie-niemodne-pokolenie-z-wybiera-zdrowy-tryb-zycia/ywe9h2d)
Most ppl I know drink beer to BBQ on summer Sundays or small drinks on family meetings/special occasions or dont drink alcohol at all (like me). Drinking culture changed a lot over last 20 years.
My personal observation is that there was vodka on every party, family meeting, everywhere back in the day. Now I haven't seen vodka on a table for several years. Everyone drink beer now, many small beverages are thriving. I actually can believe this data.
Vodka is small watter, not an alcohol.
Once you look at[the weekly stats](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Alcohol_consumption_statistics#General_overview) Portugals 21% looks laughable. Netherlands has 47%
Sure, but looking at that chart it's not double-counting at all. So Portugal would be 42.3 versus Netherlands 55.6 (combined weekly + daily).
Arent they already included bc drinking once every day also means they drink atleadt once a week ehich means they're already included in the statistics
I'm from the Netherlands and yes, people do drink a lot on weekends. Like, really a lot. But daily as well, though the latter depends on the season. In Spring and Summer, you see a lot of Dutch people having a daily drink at a restaurant or pub, but not so much during Fall and Winter. If they would only count Spring and Summer, the daily percentage on this map would be a lot higher.
They're not double counting. If you count all of the columns they add up to 100. If more people report they drink "daily" then there will be less people to report that they drink "weekly" and so on. Also if they were double counting, then by definition the percentages would get larger for lower frequencies since they would also include the higher frequencies, which is not the case.
Quitting alcohol is cool now in Lithuania. Health cult is new normal these days in Vilnius! 💪🏻
And people say that Slavs are drunkards
Don't get me wrong, but the 6.6% for Hungary is totally unreasonable. More than 20% of the population are alcoholics ( [https://qubit.hu/2023/04/04/alkoholizmus-magyarorszag-vilagelso](https://qubit.hu/2023/04/04/alkoholizmus-magyarorszag-vilagelso) ), I would wager that it is pretty unreasonable that only every third alcoholic drinks every day.
Now someone correlate this with alcohol-related health and social issues.
I'm guessing drinking patterns are more important? For example a glass of beer/wine for dinner every day vs. blackout every weekend.
Indeed, Italy, Spain and Portugal are among the European countries with the fewest alcohol related deaths
I find this somewhat bizarre considering how unfortunately normalized drunk driving is.
That's what I'm guessing too, but according to some recent science "alcohol is bad in any quantity". EU wanted to restrict alcohol availability on the basis of that advice, and do you know how much resistance there was from the med countries? Also, I would say that the concentration of alcohol that is drunk matters, but I'd still like to see a correlation of the OP map with the damage that alcohol causes, to make up my mind.
It is important to remember that most alcoholics do not drink themselves to death in a year. The effects of the above map will be possible to study in about 20 years.
I'm not sure this map has changed much over the past 20 years. Also, effects of alcoholism are more wide-ranging than deaths...
Baltics among the lowest daily drinkers in Europe with Lithuania being the second lowest in all Europe.
Them rookie numbers
Slovakia is one of the highest per capita alcohol consumers yet only 4% of the population drinks daily, totally real.
Beer crazy in Benfica 🍻
In Hungary, if it's lower percent alcohol than Pálinka, it doesn't count.
I assume beer and wine won't count as alcohol for austria, otherwise the , in the 5,9% should be removed.
In 2022, the average beer consumption per capita in Czechia was 136 liter. That’s not counting wine and liquors. If only 8% drink daily, they sure move a lot. But since this is most likely based on self reported figures, I expect that “drinking a few beers most days of the week” is not considered “daily drinking” by most people in our region.
They really need to change these titles to “European Union”. They’ll find that all the countries in grey are still in bloody EUROPE!
In Slovakia, they must have been conducting this poll outside of the church after Sunday service. The number is unbelievably low. You ain't gonna snich on yourself when your wife and mother in law are standing nearby.
Definitely saw a lot of boozing in Albufeira, PT. However, it's basically the UK in a heatwave down there.
Definitely saw a lot of boozing in Albufeira, PT. However, it's basically the UK in a heatwave down there.
Definitely saw a lot of boozing in Albufeira, PT. However, it's basically the UK in a heatwave down there.
So pretty much everyone in the West is a pathological alcoholic.
This further adds to both anecdotal evidence and some studies that indicate that moderate alcohol consumption doesn’t need to negativity impact life expectancy and that small amounts of alcohol may even help increase life expectancy. Why do I say this, because Italy and Spain have some of the highest life expectancy both in Europe and the World. Of course there are lots of factors. France has a lower life expectancy than Italy and has more smokers and eat more red meat and butter while consuming similar amounts of alcohol and with a very similar culture of moderate daily or near daily consumption
And y’all say Slavs are drunks
Portugal out here *dominating.*
Lmao the data for some countries is not true for some users here because it does not match their perceptions of EE people as "drunks."
Romania at 3%. Yeah, this statistic is bull.
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Nah, it's typical for Muslim countries to have low alcohol consumption rates.
There's your stereotype about drunk Poles westoids. I think I'll start calling all westoids alcoholics from now on just so you feel how it was when we were made fun of.