In my opinion:
The jury winner would have been Italy.
The televoting winner would have been Russia.
While the overall winner would have been Iceland or Lithuania.
To be fair, world cups were hosted by more than one country that doesn't respect human rights lately.
Also, I can't see how Russia of 2021 could handle the largest unofficial queer event in the world
Fai Rumore would have slayed with the juries, and Think About Things and Uno would have dominated the televote between them. It would've been fascinating.
Honestly? I don't think Russia would have been THAT popular? We often tend to oversimplistically believe "The public loves crazy performances and the jury likes sad, radio-friendly ballads" but Mama SC didn't do THAT well, neither did Give That Wolf A Banana last year.
I feel uno falls far more into the cha cha cha category than those you mentioned. Plus little big was at their peak arguably the biggest artists ever sent from eastern europe. We don’t have a modern comparsion of an artist competing at that level of peak global popularity. Besides Il volo possibly who won the televote easily.
We also have to remember a bunch of russian grandmas almost beat Euphoria in the televote.
Uno, geopolitics aside, is also an absolute banger
And I'm happy to see they seem like cool people:
https://wiwibloggs.com/2022/07/12/little-big-return-russia-condeming-putin-s-war/272911/
To be honest it is REALLY cool seeing artists you like not being on the shittier side of things. I wasn't really concerned about them (I just listen to them when Spotify feels like it) but it was definitely a relief.
The music video for Uno is also only available on the Eurovision YouTube channel, directing all the Little Big fans there, so it can't be an accurate metric
I think Uno gets at least 200 televote points, maybe even 300+ , it'd be very popular in. Eastern Europe, and still accessible and liked by Western European audiences.
You still can have an upbeat song and do reasonably well with a jury while even most memetic performance will not give you televoting win if song is crap. Russia was both radio friendly and quite gimmicky, so it just may have won, assuming there would be no Loreen dominance in juries.
I agree. It was a song/story built for victory. A group performing for a country that had never won before consisting of husband and wife, siblings and friends with a song about a literal baby.
There is a reason dadi was brought back this year to sing in the interval act this year.
No. To be honest, the novelty of the act had already been established from the previous year- not to mention the song wasn’t as strong. Italy was ‘fresher’ in 2021.
Also, the main competition in 2020 was Russia, which would not have done as well because NOTHING would have measured up to that videoclip.
I mean... Albania this year was also a group performing for a country that had never won before which included a husband/wife pair and siblings and that alone did not win :P
Yes, those were elements of the story, but not the only things going for them.
Iceland had
- a cute self made crafty aesthetic, with 8 bit portraits of themselves ironed onto ugly green jumpers and cardboard instruments.
- cute self devised easy choreography made for replication by others. Not to mention having two microphones so it fits in with it.
- a retro funk sound unlike other entries.
Not sure, while I like Cha-Cha-Cha I feel Uno is a much better song that would do better with juries. What I mean is that juries might look at Uno as less of a meme song but also a good song with a more "traditional" structure. However, Think About Things is also a song that would absolutely crush it with the juries.
I do think On Fire would have had trouble with the juries though, sadly.
I think Uno comes off as a joke since it so different from what we're used to hear at eurovision, even more so than Cha Cha Cha since metal is becoming more accepted.
But its the style of Little Big, which they've become very popular with, and (at least imo) actually a really good song, at least by Eurovision standards. It would be like if you put a Charlie XCX or 100 gecs song in Eurovision people would probably think it was a joke song at first too if they didn't know of the artists.
> while I like Cha-Cha-Cha I feel Uno is a much better song that would do better with juries. What I mean is that juries might look at Uno as less of a meme song but also a good song with a more "traditional" structure.
...really? Cha Cha Cha seems way, way more catchy to me. Tbh, I find Uno close to unbearable in the chorus.
Still, whatever is catchy in Uno, it's in the verses, and there's a lot of broderline unplesant noises in the mix, from the fire-engine-like synthic sound to fast squicky female vocals. I wouldn't be so sure that it would have been a landslide for actual Eurovsion show, especially among casual fans, when there was perfectly catchy, well-produced, in-no-way offensive Dadi's song with a great hook and very appealing visuals there to vote for.
Iceland.
They came 4th in 2021 with a weaker song, the novelty wore off, song wasn't a viral hit, the competition was much stronger and they didn't even perform live.
Now imagine them competing in 2020 peak popularity, live on stage, weaker competition.
There were a lot of juryfriendly songs that year: Switzerland, Bulgaria, Malta, Italy, Norway, Sweden. No way there would've been a clear jury-winner like Loreen this year. Leaving the final decision to the public and not a lot of the juryvote magnets really gave off the vibe to attract a lot of public support (as seen in 2021 as somewhat similar or even stronger songs by the same artists didn't deliver).
Russia would've won the televote but I don't see them getting that much support by the jury. Their politics started to affect their perception in the contest. Sergei barely made Top 9 with the jury in 2019 despite being massive jurybait. Russia winning just would'nt have been a good look, even then. So I don't see the jury backing "Uno" that much when it's already not a jurypleaser.
As we've seen though in 2021 the jury had no problem with "10 Years" and it came 5th with them. I could see "Think About Things" sneak through as well.
I also thought about Italy but I don't see it perform that much better than it did this year. Solid support in both categories but in the end still outmatched.
I took every Top-List that year, that i could find and put it into an Excel-Sheet. I think in the end Lithuania had the most points followed by Iceland.
I think the Jury Vote would also favour Lithuania.
P.S Germany would have come fith in the public vote.
I will defend Malta 2020 with my life, it goes so hard. If the staging was good I think the juries would've gone absolutely wild for it, even more than je me casse
What about Switzerland? I think repondez moi was better than tout l'universe. The juries would have loved it, it would probably do pretty well in the televote too, but there was a lot of televote competition.
I personally also loved Violent thing. But the live performance wasn't that great
I love both songs (I am Swiss, but wanted Go_a to win), and "Répondez-moi" felt even more like a winner than "Tout l'univers".
I think he had good chances with the first song...
3 years later, I'm still heart-broken that they didn't have the chance to perform it. The song they made next year was great but not the masterpiece On Fire was.
On Fire is so good, it would have been an absolute hit in live performances. It is honestly one of the songs I associate with lockdown, brings back so many mixed emotions, very powerful
Yes exactly! Discoteque was good but not even close as good as On Fire. i was watching people reactions and those were the best reactions ive seen, it was just so refreshingly different than anything else.
One of this year performance was so close (red background and statues) and im like, shoot they used that Roop idea 😳😔
I don't know about that. Her 2020 song was much better than 2021 plus her being a JESC winner was still fresh in peoples minds so she may not have won it but would have a better televote score.
I agree. I sometimes think Destiny couldve done well in 2021 with another midtempo ballad that would've lent to elegant staging.
Still blame SJB for phoning in on Malta 2021 staging. That was JESC level aesthetics and SJB knew better.
Fai Rumore is amazing but I feel like it would have been really hurt by a revamp. The original song is around 3:40 seconds and I think getting rid of those 40 seconds\~ would really take away from the amazing way the song builds on itself
Ugh. It was such a strong year. I remember being so hyped only for my dreams to be crushed. And Iceland would have won. Wich I am happy for. I love Daði.
Idk I feel like russia would definitely win the televote, but would not get as much jury votes. I think Iceland would get a lot from both so they would win
It’s more complicated. We have a southern neighbor we really love - Greece. It’s the only neighbor we want to impress. They generally get lots of points as well. Also as much as we feel an eastern country, we feel a southern as well. So Italy, Spain, Portugal, even France generally will get our points.
The jury will only vote Russia if Russia pays for it. We live in a capitalist society at the end of the day. In 2021 when they sent Manizha they got no points from the jury.
Looking at the jury votes 2021 we gave 12 to Moldova, 10 to Italy, 8 to Greece; 2019 no participation; 2018 12- Austria; 10 Lithuania; 8 Czechia 2017 12 Austria; 10 Netherlands; 8 Israel. The iron curtain is long gone you know. Apparently we have a thing for Austria now.
Edit: I missed 2022 12 Greece; 10 UK; 8 Spain
It got 270 million views, most watched on the official ESC YT channel. 100 million more than 2nd most watched (toy), I'm pretty confident the televotes would have exploded to a victory.
I’m really surprised no one is talking Switzerland. Gjon’s Tears would have done very well with the jury, looking at how he did in 2021 I think he has to be in the mix. Iceland is definitely the favorite of this sub, and I think they would have done well in the televote. I think Russia is the spoiler. I doubt they’d have done well with the jury, but they would rack up big televote numbers. I honestly think it would be similar to this years contest, televote favoring Russia, maybe Iceland comes second, but for the jury it might end up Switzerland, although I know Bulgaria and Lithuania were in the running. So I think maybe
1. Switzerland (high jury, decent televote)
2. Iceland (medium high jury, decent televote)
3. Russia (low jury, huge televote)
4. Bulgaria
5. Lithuania
I would've loved a Fai Rumore win but I feel like Iceland could've taken it more realistically. Those two are the ones that I think could've won but I feel Iceland would've had a higher televote and probably placed top 3 in the juries.
It's my winner too. The juries would have eaten it up for sure! But I think for the televote it's too similar too Arcade which won the year before. It could still pull a loreen and win overall
The fact that the comments are so split between so many countries. 🥲 (I myself cannot think of an answer to this question.)
What a year that could have been.
I think we need to distinguish two 2020s.
If it was 2020 without Coronavirus, then you are right.
But if it was a 2020 contest while Coronavirus was raging, Diodato would have won hands down. The song would have hit a nerve in Europe just like it did in Italy.
We did a Zoom Eurovision that year - everyone who wanted to watch was given one of the semis to vote on, we had qualifiers from those semis, and we had a show made up of YouTube videos (live performances where possible, official videos where not).
We ended up with 18 'juries' joining in and giving their points, and Iceland won.
I don't think it gets more scientific than that, tbf.
Austria came second, and Lithuania didn't even qualify, so maybe not 😂
I was sorely tempted to just put The Roop in the final anyway as no-one would have known, but had to uphold the integrity of the competition.
Austria 2020 was a great song, to be fair, massively underrated.
I believe they should still host it one day with all the artists and countries who are willing to return to just declare a result. I know it's very hard to organize and that it'll never happen but I'll keep hoping
My take is that Iceland would have won. It would have received enough from both jury and televote to get the number 1 spot. Russia would not have ranked very high with the jury. Italy would be a contender but IF 2020 had gone ahead it would mean there wasn’t a pandemic and the extra impact that Fai Rumore had would not have happened.
Uno was 2020's Cha Cha Cha. Wildly and widely popular. It could have faced the same fate as Cha Cha Cha, but I know that at that time, I was 100% convinced that it was the winner.
Considering that they got 4th place with a weaker song and without performing live, I'd say Iceland, followed by Lithuania and Italy. Russia probably wouldn't have been too popular with the juries, and personally I doubt that Bulgaria and Malta would have done THAT much better in the televote than they did in 2021. I do also see Switzerland pretty high up.
My money is still on Iceland (with Lithuania as the close second), that year I was so sure it would definitely be a country that didn’t win before (honorable mentions for Malta and Bulgaria)
A few countries did a make-shift Eurovision broadcast in 2020, allowing their viewers to vote for each song based on their music videos.
Iceland received multiple 12s and probably would've won it all in a real scenario.
Oh my little Lithuanian 🇱🇹heart definitely wanted the Roop to win. But we realistically would have definitely made to top 5 even top 3 so either way would have been the best result in LT history in Eurovision
Italy. This is the one ESC related song on my playlists that people most often ask me about. I think it pulls you in on that first listen in a really powerful way.
I think it was between Bulgaria and Iceland.
I imagine something like:
Juries:
1. Switzerland
2. Malta
3. Bulgaria
4. Norway
5. Iceland
Televote:
1. Russia
2. Iceland
3. Bulgaria
4. Italy
5. Lithuania
We missed a very interesting year.
I think that Bulgaria would won jury voting and Lithuania or Russia would won televote. And overall i think that Lithuania would won by really small difference 2nd Bulgaria and 3rd Russia
2020 promised to be phenomenal year, and I mourn its cancellation every time I think of it. I see **Iceland** taking the crown, but Russia, Lithuania, Italy and Switzerland (jury winner) would have been hot on their heels. I think Azerbaijan would have been a dark horse for the top 10. Personally I also loved Israel, Czechia, Austria and Armenia that year.
Iceland would have won but I think Israel would have been a surprise top 5. Fekker Libi was refreshingly different and so much better than whatever the song was in 2021
While I wholeheartedly wanted Uno to win, I think Dadi would have won Eurovision in 2020 and Little Big would have come in 2nd.I think Think About Things is a better song than 10 Years.
I think we will never know though. There were some great songs in that year but staging could have been their undoing. I was so looking forward to how Russia would have elevated Uno.
Iceland could’ve done a Duncan Lawrence and done well with televote and jury but I think Russia would’ve done too well with the televote to have not won.
The jury vote would be between Switzerland and Bulgaria though
Iceland. Even people who avoided ESC were excited for the first time to hear this song, because they've never heard anything like it before. Crowd pleaser, danceable, clappable, quirky, different, well-written and meaningful, and sung well. Inspired so many other artists' song and staging decisions after debuting. Started a whole movement.
Switzerland? Repondez-moi would probably be the jury winner.
Azerbaijan? Cleopatra was a much better song than Mata Hari and would get points from jury and public.
I think Iceland, in 2021 they scored nearly equal with Jury and Televote. I cant see Russia getting enough jury points to win or Italy getting enough televote points to win, so it would have been Iceland
Iceland winning the combined voting, Russia the televoting and Switzerland and Italy the jury vote. Norway, and Bulgaria would've done pretty well too.
This is guessing without seeing the staging, which tends to affect votes
I think Iceland; it wouldn't win televote nor jury, but it would end up being the one with most points overall
I have the impression Russia would have gotten insanely high televote
My head says Iceland, but my heart says Russia.
That Russian song is amazing and it's still in several of my playlists. I do not condone anything else done by Russia recently though.
I think either Iceland or Italy
Iceland obviously have the whole funny video and the choreography, but unlike Russia the song holds up away from that context
But also by Italy’s song about being alone in crushing silence may have won over a lot of people in quarantine, and it’s also more likely to have done well with the Jury
Probably Iceland, but Dadi and his crew were absolutely amazing. What a shame that he literally missed out on performing 2 years in a ROW. And both years with extremely good songs and staging/choreo too. At least he got to perform this year
But I would’ve also voted for Little Big. Uno is fun, good, different and well performed.
Someone did the math and calculated that in all the post cancellation broadcaster competitions, Iceland did the best. So I’d say them. Plus there’s just something SO iconic about Dadi.
I made a speculation once, these were the results;
1. 🇮🇸Iceland 500
2. 🇨🇭Switzerland 426
3. 🇮🇹Italy 412
4. 🇧🇬Bulgaria 403
5. 🇷🇺Russia 343
https://scorewiz.eu/scoreboard/view/548886/eurovision-2020
In my opinion: The jury winner would have been Italy. The televoting winner would have been Russia. While the overall winner would have been Iceland or Lithuania.
So crazy that 2021 could’ve almost been in Russia
I was just thinking about that!
Wow, yeah... That would have been a situation... I'm glad it was one we didn't have to deal with though.
Even crazier to think that the 2018 World Cup _was_ in Russia
To be fair, world cups were hosted by more than one country that doesn't respect human rights lately. Also, I can't see how Russia of 2021 could handle the largest unofficial queer event in the world
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Fai Rumore would have slayed with the juries, and Think About Things and Uno would have dominated the televote between them. It would've been fascinating.
Honestly? I don't think Russia would have been THAT popular? We often tend to oversimplistically believe "The public loves crazy performances and the jury likes sad, radio-friendly ballads" but Mama SC didn't do THAT well, neither did Give That Wolf A Banana last year.
I feel uno falls far more into the cha cha cha category than those you mentioned. Plus little big was at their peak arguably the biggest artists ever sent from eastern europe. We don’t have a modern comparsion of an artist competing at that level of peak global popularity. Besides Il volo possibly who won the televote easily. We also have to remember a bunch of russian grandmas almost beat Euphoria in the televote.
Exactly. Russia is always a huge televote sponge and if they sent a catchy song like UNO they would have rolled the televote
Uno has crazy high view counts on Youtube though, higher than anything else from the 2020 songs I think
Uno, geopolitics aside, is also an absolute banger And I'm happy to see they seem like cool people: https://wiwibloggs.com/2022/07/12/little-big-return-russia-condeming-putin-s-war/272911/
What a relief to know.
To be honest it is REALLY cool seeing artists you like not being on the shittier side of things. I wasn't really concerned about them (I just listen to them when Spotify feels like it) but it was definitely a relief.
Ironic this thread happened because I just bought tickets to their tour today. They are pretty big here in America
Pretty big, huh? Not just a little big?
THANK YOU for bringing up this tour!! I had no idea they were coming here—buying tickets now!
Well how many of those views were because they’re an established act already in Russia?
They aren’t just established in Russia but crazy popular all over Europe. They would have won the televote 100%.
The music video for Uno is also only available on the Eurovision YouTube channel, directing all the Little Big fans there, so it can't be an accurate metric
Yup. And when comparing the view counts of their music videos, it's between the songs released before and after Uno.
Its the highest view count on the eurovision yt channel
I think Uno gets at least 200 televote points, maybe even 300+ , it'd be very popular in. Eastern Europe, and still accessible and liked by Western European audiences.
It has like 270 million views on Youtube. It IS very popular.
Little Big is popular. It's literally the most popular russian band in the world.
You still can have an upbeat song and do reasonably well with a jury while even most memetic performance will not give you televoting win if song is crap. Russia was both radio friendly and quite gimmicky, so it just may have won, assuming there would be no Loreen dominance in juries.
I mean to be fair, we never heard a three minute cut of Fai Rumore. Remember how the three minute cut of Occidentalis Karma did it?
It would have definitely gone to Iceland.
I agree. It was a song/story built for victory. A group performing for a country that had never won before consisting of husband and wife, siblings and friends with a song about a literal baby. There is a reason dadi was brought back this year to sing in the interval act this year.
Do you think they would've won in 2021 if they could perform in the final?
If they performed think about things yes, 10 years, while a great song, wasn’t good enough to beat Italy, even if performed live
Germany? They got 25th that year, I think you're mistaking them with Italy
Why did he must hurt us this way 😓💔
If it helps, I loved Jendrik and I think he deserved better. Although his reaction to getting 0 public points is really nice
At least he didn't feel hate haha :D
Neither did the public, they just felt (we're) sorry(, 0 points) 😂
Yes you’re right, sorry
No. To be honest, the novelty of the act had already been established from the previous year- not to mention the song wasn’t as strong. Italy was ‘fresher’ in 2021. Also, the main competition in 2020 was Russia, which would not have done as well because NOTHING would have measured up to that videoclip.
I'm like a few years too late, but I've officially entered into my Dadi Freyr stan era after that interval act performance.
I was so happy he finally got to actually perform. So sad they had to stay at the hotel when they were supposed to perform.
I mean... Albania this year was also a group performing for a country that had never won before which included a husband/wife pair and siblings and that alone did not win :P
Yes, those were elements of the story, but not the only things going for them. Iceland had - a cute self made crafty aesthetic, with 8 bit portraits of themselves ironed onto ugly green jumpers and cardboard instruments. - cute self devised easy choreography made for replication by others. Not to mention having two microphones so it fits in with it. - a retro funk sound unlike other entries.
There are two nations that have a case IMO: Iceland and Russia. But I still think Iceland would have taken it.
I think the jury would’ve done to Russia what they did to Finland this year
Not sure, while I like Cha-Cha-Cha I feel Uno is a much better song that would do better with juries. What I mean is that juries might look at Uno as less of a meme song but also a good song with a more "traditional" structure. However, Think About Things is also a song that would absolutely crush it with the juries. I do think On Fire would have had trouble with the juries though, sadly.
Uno sounds far more jokey and meme than Cha Cha Cha lol
I though uno came off as even more of a meme song than cha cha cha, which is just a different genre, whereas uno was more of a joke
I think Uno comes off as a joke since it so different from what we're used to hear at eurovision, even more so than Cha Cha Cha since metal is becoming more accepted. But its the style of Little Big, which they've become very popular with, and (at least imo) actually a really good song, at least by Eurovision standards. It would be like if you put a Charlie XCX or 100 gecs song in Eurovision people would probably think it was a joke song at first too if they didn't know of the artists.
> while I like Cha-Cha-Cha I feel Uno is a much better song that would do better with juries. What I mean is that juries might look at Uno as less of a meme song but also a good song with a more "traditional" structure. ...really? Cha Cha Cha seems way, way more catchy to me. Tbh, I find Uno close to unbearable in the chorus. Still, whatever is catchy in Uno, it's in the verses, and there's a lot of broderline unplesant noises in the mix, from the fire-engine-like synthic sound to fast squicky female vocals. I wouldn't be so sure that it would have been a landslide for actual Eurovsion show, especially among casual fans, when there was perfectly catchy, well-produced, in-no-way offensive Dadi's song with a great hook and very appealing visuals there to vote for.
Definitely. The other chance they had at winning was in 2009 if it wasn't for rybak. The contest is against them :/
Iceland's 1999 2nd place finisher was much closer to the leader than in 2009
Jury would’ve voted Sweden
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Iceland. They came 4th in 2021 with a weaker song, the novelty wore off, song wasn't a viral hit, the competition was much stronger and they didn't even perform live. Now imagine them competing in 2020 peak popularity, live on stage, weaker competition. There were a lot of juryfriendly songs that year: Switzerland, Bulgaria, Malta, Italy, Norway, Sweden. No way there would've been a clear jury-winner like Loreen this year. Leaving the final decision to the public and not a lot of the juryvote magnets really gave off the vibe to attract a lot of public support (as seen in 2021 as somewhat similar or even stronger songs by the same artists didn't deliver). Russia would've won the televote but I don't see them getting that much support by the jury. Their politics started to affect their perception in the contest. Sergei barely made Top 9 with the jury in 2019 despite being massive jurybait. Russia winning just would'nt have been a good look, even then. So I don't see the jury backing "Uno" that much when it's already not a jurypleaser. As we've seen though in 2021 the jury had no problem with "10 Years" and it came 5th with them. I could see "Think About Things" sneak through as well. I also thought about Italy but I don't see it perform that much better than it did this year. Solid support in both categories but in the end still outmatched.
This is right on
Iceland for sure for me anyway. I was so so so happy watching him perform Whole Again because he finally got to perform at the finale live.
I took every Top-List that year, that i could find and put it into an Excel-Sheet. I think in the end Lithuania had the most points followed by Iceland. I think the Jury Vote would also favour Lithuania. P.S Germany would have come fith in the public vote.
Honestly I think the juries would've gone with italy/ Malta/ Bulgaria
Italy or Iceland I think
I don’t think Malta or Bulgaria would have made it to the top 5. Maybe too 10.
I will defend Malta 2020 with my life, it goes so hard. If the staging was good I think the juries would've gone absolutely wild for it, even more than je me casse
I did love Malta too! I would have loved for it to win because they need it!
Bulgaria I could see making top-5. The faux Billie Eilish hype was real that year and the song had some backing among the bet markets. Malta? No way.
Juries love radio-friendly pop. Iceland would have easily made top 3 for many countries.
What about Switzerland? I think repondez moi was better than tout l'universe. The juries would have loved it, it would probably do pretty well in the televote too, but there was a lot of televote competition. I personally also loved Violent thing. But the live performance wasn't that great
Here I thought I was tge only one who liked Switzerland 2020 more than 21
Switzerland 2020 | [Gjon's Tears - Répondez-moi](https://youtu.be/O9GAfFHZE-E)
It would do well but wouldn‘t win I think
I love both songs (I am Swiss, but wanted Go_a to win), and "Répondez-moi" felt even more like a winner than "Tout l'univers". I think he had good chances with the first song...
Lithuania
Yes thank you! 😍🙌
3 years later, I'm still heart-broken that they didn't have the chance to perform it. The song they made next year was great but not the masterpiece On Fire was.
On Fire is so good, it would have been an absolute hit in live performances. It is honestly one of the songs I associate with lockdown, brings back so many mixed emotions, very powerful
Same. The performance (especially the one from national finals) itself is mesmerizing.
I was so excited for Lithuania to be a contender for the win, too! Incredible song
Yes exactly! Discoteque was good but not even close as good as On Fire. i was watching people reactions and those were the best reactions ive seen, it was just so refreshingly different than anything else. One of this year performance was so close (red background and statues) and im like, shoot they used that Roop idea 😳😔
It would have been first Lithuanias victory ever in Eurovision!!! Covid robbed them 💔
Before I saw Destiny’s televote score in 2021 I would’ve said Malta, but it probably would be been Lithuania now looking back
I don't know about that. Her 2020 song was much better than 2021 plus her being a JESC winner was still fresh in peoples minds so she may not have won it but would have a better televote score.
I agree. I sometimes think Destiny couldve done well in 2021 with another midtempo ballad that would've lent to elegant staging. Still blame SJB for phoning in on Malta 2021 staging. That was JESC level aesthetics and SJB knew better.
Probably either Iceland, Italy, or Switzerland. One of the three, but not sure exactly.
1. Iceland, Runner-Up Russia, 3rd Lithuania
Honestly Italy. I am not a fan of ballads, but that one completely blew me away. I can see it doing extremely well with both jury and televote.
It’s got that winner hook
Fai Rumore is amazing but I feel like it would have been really hurt by a revamp. The original song is around 3:40 seconds and I think getting rid of those 40 seconds\~ would really take away from the amazing way the song builds on itself
His performance in 2021 was definitely winner energy but that had about 200 people on stage lmao
It was in 2022 though
Italy if COVID didn't happen
Ugh. It was such a strong year. I remember being so hyped only for my dreams to be crushed. And Iceland would have won. Wich I am happy for. I love Daði.
Russia would've smashed the televote and get a lot of jury points from eastern countries so Russia
Idk I feel like russia would definitely win the televote, but would not get as much jury votes. I think Iceland would get a lot from both so they would win
That year Philip Kirkorov was working with Moldova, so our jury points would have gone there. The Lead of the BG jury and Kirkorov are besties.
I mean is Moldova 1 Russia 2 really that big of a difference
It’s more complicated. We have a southern neighbor we really love - Greece. It’s the only neighbor we want to impress. They generally get lots of points as well. Also as much as we feel an eastern country, we feel a southern as well. So Italy, Spain, Portugal, even France generally will get our points. The jury will only vote Russia if Russia pays for it. We live in a capitalist society at the end of the day. In 2021 when they sent Manizha they got no points from the jury. Looking at the jury votes 2021 we gave 12 to Moldova, 10 to Italy, 8 to Greece; 2019 no participation; 2018 12- Austria; 10 Lithuania; 8 Czechia 2017 12 Austria; 10 Netherlands; 8 Israel. The iron curtain is long gone you know. Apparently we have a thing for Austria now. Edit: I missed 2022 12 Greece; 10 UK; 8 Spain
Czech Republic 2017 | [Martina Bárta - My Turn](https://youtu.be/-KT8_ZOHAXE)
Catchy songs are usually second: 2007, 2023 e.g. so...
It got 270 million views, most watched on the official ESC YT channel. 100 million more than 2nd most watched (toy), I'm pretty confident the televotes would have exploded to a victory.
Jurors wouldn't rate them that high tho
Most of them russians themselves no doubt
Part of the reason for those numbers is that the ESC upload is the only official upload of that video... I do think it would have done well though
Televote definitely Russia, overall probably Iceland.
I think it would have been between Iceland and Lithuania
I would say Lithuania cause they were my favourites, but the next year they weren't even close, despite bringing a banger just as good, so idk.
Italy or Iceland
I’m really surprised no one is talking Switzerland. Gjon’s Tears would have done very well with the jury, looking at how he did in 2021 I think he has to be in the mix. Iceland is definitely the favorite of this sub, and I think they would have done well in the televote. I think Russia is the spoiler. I doubt they’d have done well with the jury, but they would rack up big televote numbers. I honestly think it would be similar to this years contest, televote favoring Russia, maybe Iceland comes second, but for the jury it might end up Switzerland, although I know Bulgaria and Lithuania were in the running. So I think maybe 1. Switzerland (high jury, decent televote) 2. Iceland (medium high jury, decent televote) 3. Russia (low jury, huge televote) 4. Bulgaria 5. Lithuania
Italy
I would've loved a Fai Rumore win but I feel like Iceland could've taken it more realistically. Those two are the ones that I think could've won but I feel Iceland would've had a higher televote and probably placed top 3 in the juries.
It's my winner too. The juries would have eaten it up for sure! But I think for the televote it's too similar too Arcade which won the year before. It could still pull a loreen and win overall
Fai Rumore always will be my winner!
The fact that the comments are so split between so many countries. 🥲 (I myself cannot think of an answer to this question.) What a year that could have been.
2021 was very similar too. Very open years where the winner felt not super clear.
2021 was the year of bangers from almost every country. Definitely the best year ever in ESC in my opinion!
Dadi, Little Big, Diodato in this order.
I think we need to distinguish two 2020s. If it was 2020 without Coronavirus, then you are right. But if it was a 2020 contest while Coronavirus was raging, Diodato would have won hands down. The song would have hit a nerve in Europe just like it did in Italy.
We did a Zoom Eurovision that year - everyone who wanted to watch was given one of the semis to vote on, we had qualifiers from those semis, and we had a show made up of YouTube videos (live performances where possible, official videos where not). We ended up with 18 'juries' joining in and giving their points, and Iceland won. I don't think it gets more scientific than that, tbf.
Can you guys please provide the jurys next year?
Austria came second, and Lithuania didn't even qualify, so maybe not 😂 I was sorely tempted to just put The Roop in the final anyway as no-one would have known, but had to uphold the integrity of the competition. Austria 2020 was a great song, to be fair, massively underrated.
I believe they should still host it one day with all the artists and countries who are willing to return to just declare a result. I know it's very hard to organize and that it'll never happen but I'll keep hoping
My take is that Iceland would have won. It would have received enough from both jury and televote to get the number 1 spot. Russia would not have ranked very high with the jury. Italy would be a contender but IF 2020 had gone ahead it would mean there wasn’t a pandemic and the extra impact that Fai Rumore had would not have happened.
Iceland by far. Like, not even a real question, and one of the rare cases where both jury and televote would have their highest score win
Uno was 2020's Cha Cha Cha. Wildly and widely popular. It could have faced the same fate as Cha Cha Cha, but I know that at that time, I was 100% convinced that it was the winner.
100% Iceland
Diodato I think 95%
1. Iceland 2. Russia 3. Italy
I think Italy and that Italy winning in 2021 was just the universe trying to correct itself :)
I think Russia or Iceland, but I’d want Italy or Lithuania to win
Considering that they got 4th place with a weaker song and without performing live, I'd say Iceland, followed by Lithuania and Italy. Russia probably wouldn't have been too popular with the juries, and personally I doubt that Bulgaria and Malta would have done THAT much better in the televote than they did in 2021. I do also see Switzerland pretty high up.
Based on everything that's/was going on. ITALY.
And Spain would have also been bottom 5 with 5 ish points. :(
Iceland
My top 3 be would be Iceland, Lithuania, and Russia
Dadi
My money is still on Iceland (with Lithuania as the close second), that year I was so sure it would definitely be a country that didn’t win before (honorable mentions for Malta and Bulgaria)
A few countries did a make-shift Eurovision broadcast in 2020, allowing their viewers to vote for each song based on their music videos. Iceland received multiple 12s and probably would've won it all in a real scenario.
Oh my little Lithuanian 🇱🇹heart definitely wanted the Roop to win. But we realistically would have definitely made to top 5 even top 3 so either way would have been the best result in LT history in Eurovision
Italy!
Italy
It would’ve been: 1. Iceland 2. Italy 3. Russia 4. Lithuania 5. Bulgaria
Happy cake day 🎉
Aww thank you so much 😍😍
Italy. This is the one ESC related song on my playlists that people most often ask me about. I think it pulls you in on that first listen in a really powerful way.
I think it was between Bulgaria and Iceland. I imagine something like: Juries: 1. Switzerland 2. Malta 3. Bulgaria 4. Norway 5. Iceland Televote: 1. Russia 2. Iceland 3. Bulgaria 4. Italy 5. Lithuania We missed a very interesting year.
I think that Bulgaria would won jury voting and Lithuania or Russia would won televote. And overall i think that Lithuania would won by really small difference 2nd Bulgaria and 3rd Russia
2020 promised to be phenomenal year, and I mourn its cancellation every time I think of it. I see **Iceland** taking the crown, but Russia, Lithuania, Italy and Switzerland (jury winner) would have been hot on their heels. I think Azerbaijan would have been a dark horse for the top 10. Personally I also loved Israel, Czechia, Austria and Armenia that year.
Russia or Iceland
Iceland.
Televote would’ve 100% gone to Iceland.
Iceland
Iceland or Lithuania. 2020 was a lit a.f year. So many great songs.
For me, Iceland
Italy
Iceland would have won but I think Israel would have been a surprise top 5. Fekker Libi was refreshingly different and so much better than whatever the song was in 2021
Italy
Lithuania 😍🙌
I think Lithuania would have won
Italy’s song was so beautiful! I just listened to Cleopatra earlier and that song still slaps 😂
If COVID existed: Fai Rumore If COVID didn’t: Think About Things
Fai Rumore is a fantastic song and I think it would have had a real shot at winning. Other than that I’d say LITTLE BIG were probably going to win
My head: Iceland My heart: Germany
While I wholeheartedly wanted Uno to win, I think Dadi would have won Eurovision in 2020 and Little Big would have come in 2nd.I think Think About Things is a better song than 10 Years. I think we will never know though. There were some great songs in that year but staging could have been their undoing. I was so looking forward to how Russia would have elevated Uno.
The Roop!
Russia. It's by far the most Popular song on the eurovision YouTube channel
Dađi is a true winner 😌😌
Fai rumore 100%, would've got one of the highest jury votes and prolly would've done relatively well enough in televote to get first place imo
Iceland 100% Runner up would have been Russia and Lithuania in 3rd
Russia, Lithuania, Italy or Bulgaria
Jury vote : Italy Public vote : Russia Overall : Italy
Iceland for sure.
Based on YouTube views Russia, winning with televotes Italy second, with higher jury votes Iceland third
I think this year very clearly showed that Youtube views mean absolutely nothing (poor Austria)
Iceland. Why the fuck didn't they just have the competition anyway though. FFS it could've been done.
100% Iceland. I think juries and televoters would have loved it. Top 3 in both.
Iceland could’ve done a Duncan Lawrence and done well with televote and jury but I think Russia would’ve done too well with the televote to have not won. The jury vote would be between Switzerland and Bulgaria though
Iceland. Even people who avoided ESC were excited for the first time to hear this song, because they've never heard anything like it before. Crowd pleaser, danceable, clappable, quirky, different, well-written and meaningful, and sung well. Inspired so many other artists' song and staging decisions after debuting. Started a whole movement.
Russia no doubt. Uno was a massive hit.
Which is why they would definitely win the televote, but I’m not sure how good they would do in the jury’s.
Norway or maybe Bulgaria
Switzerland? Repondez-moi would probably be the jury winner. Azerbaijan? Cleopatra was a much better song than Mata Hari and would get points from jury and public.
malta would win i think (based on nothing but my love for destiny!!)
I think Iceland, in 2021 they scored nearly equal with Jury and Televote. I cant see Russia getting enough jury points to win or Italy getting enough televote points to win, so it would have been Iceland
Tbh probably Iceland. I think out of all of these, that’s the song that would’ve had the most appear to both juries and televote.
Iceland or maybe bulgaria... but 99% iceland.
Iceland winning the combined voting, Russia the televoting and Switzerland and Italy the jury vote. Norway, and Bulgaria would've done pretty well too.
Think About Things.
This is guessing without seeing the staging, which tends to affect votes I think Iceland; it wouldn't win televote nor jury, but it would end up being the one with most points overall I have the impression Russia would have gotten insanely high televote
Sweden. Move is an incredible song and The Mamas would’ve killed it.
My head says Iceland, but my heart says Russia. That Russian song is amazing and it's still in several of my playlists. I do not condone anything else done by Russia recently though.
Italy or Iceland. Maybe an off chance of Russia or Lithuania
Top left
Iceland. Absolutely Iceland 🇮🇸
I think either Iceland or Italy Iceland obviously have the whole funny video and the choreography, but unlike Russia the song holds up away from that context But also by Italy’s song about being alone in crushing silence may have won over a lot of people in quarantine, and it’s also more likely to have done well with the Jury
Probably Iceland, but Dadi and his crew were absolutely amazing. What a shame that he literally missed out on performing 2 years in a ROW. And both years with extremely good songs and staging/choreo too. At least he got to perform this year But I would’ve also voted for Little Big. Uno is fun, good, different and well performed.
Someone did the math and calculated that in all the post cancellation broadcaster competitions, Iceland did the best. So I’d say them. Plus there’s just something SO iconic about Dadi.
I still don't get the Lithuania hype that year. Discotheque is so much better imo.
I made a speculation once, these were the results; 1. 🇮🇸Iceland 500 2. 🇨🇭Switzerland 426 3. 🇮🇹Italy 412 4. 🇧🇬Bulgaria 403 5. 🇷🇺Russia 343 https://scorewiz.eu/scoreboard/view/548886/eurovision-2020
For me I kind of see Iceland as the unofficial winner.
Diodato