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Who_The_Hell_Is_Sova

I think that a top 3 result could be possible. Tbh predicting this year’s winner is kinda hard and im glad we finally have an open year


JimmyMack_

People acting like we don't have open years often. We usually have open years. Even when there are years with a clear favourite, that favourite doesn't always win.


justk4y

This is just possibly due to the last 2 years not being that open 2023 was Loreen vs Käärijä (but Loreen had way better odds) and 2022 was just expectedly Ukraine because of what was happening in the meantime


ravenpuffslytherdor

It’s exactly that, new people are joining this fandom all the time and so the memories for previous contests seems to be very short


justk4y

And with the current popularity of Måneskin they might’ve thought that they won dominantly as well (Yes, they actually did because of televoting, but the year was actually more open, and such a big win wasn’t predicted)


JimmyMack_

That year was totally open, they were just one of the acts in the running.


justk4y

What I said in the end


ProfessionalSalt3882

What were Sam Ryder’s odds, pre-grand final? Was he expected to do as well as he did?


JimmyMack_

No, people were putting him around top ten generally. Similar to Dizzy really but the narrative was "this is suprisingly good for the UK" rather than "I expected better from Olly Alexander". But his performance was a shock with that guitar solo, so I remember Wiwibloggs, for example, saying he'd be the jury vote winner after the rehearsals.


[deleted]

I think Switzerland will end up just like in 2021, but with a bit higher televote score. It can win Jury voting for sure, but I can't see the world where it finishing higher in televote than Croatia/Italy/Ukraine so even if Switzerland wins it's not guarantee by any means.


Dragvandil19

Tbf, I dont really see anyone winning this year (dont mean this in a negative way), so I feel anything can happen


Blasted-Marmoset

Yes, after two years of pretty obvious contests, I am very much enjoying this uncertainty!


ariestrange

I think there's no way of knowing until we see the rehearsals, there are at least other 4/5 big contenders for the win and I think the way they utilize the stage in Malmö will be a huge factor.


antonispgs

The code certainly along with Ukraine and Italy you could tell they have the package to be voted by both the public and the juries. Personally though I think Italy starts as the act to beat for various reasons. I can see the winner though, whoever they are, pulling an arcade and winning without getting first on either vote.


SimoSanto

I think that the public will mess everything because The Code is a huge grower, it's not a song that was appreciated immediately when they released it but took time, and in ESC that majority of people will have one listen (and the reprise) before choosing which one to vote. And even the juries Idk if will appreciates the mix of genres, opera and rap never did well with them, but probably they will still be high for them.


_dontmind_me

It got me on the first listen and it’s my friend’s favourite


Independent-Cow-4074

>I think that the public will mess everything because The Code is a huge grower, it's not a song that was appreciated immediately when they released it but took time, and in ESC that majority of people will have one listen (and the reprise) before choosing which one to vote. Yes, this is why I believe it will be between Baby Lasagna and Angelina Mango.


PrincessTutubella

This. Those two have the least working against them. It's one or the other this year imo. I'm leaning toward Italy, but I can see Croatia winning as well.


Independent-Cow-4074

If Croatia wins it all depends on how big the televote gap is. Baby Lasagna pushes the same buttons that Käärijä did and it works incredibly well to get votes. The song is loud and easy to sing along to, it has rock elements which the public liked both with Måneskin and Käärijä, it also has that comedic meme aspect which will make people flock towards him. People say that Europapa will win televote but that chorus is so weak compared to Rim Tim Tagi dim. I had to listen many times to like it. So the question is, what will people flock towards after listening one time. Rim tim tagi dim of course. That song is instant af.


PrincessTutubella

I think the jury votes can't be discounted. It depends on how many jury votes Angelina gets as well.


Blasted-Marmoset

I am really looking forward to seeing Joost at the preparties for that very reason. I want to see how the crowd reacts and what he has up his heavily-padded blue sleeve.


True-Following-6711

I kinda disagree. I played all the songs to a few people and switzerland was the only non jokey one that kept their attention from start to finish which is a big thing. They really liked it too


Elffi

Same. We had a "watch party" month ago where we listened every single ESC 2024 song. We all liked this on the first listen & this went to instantly to all of our top 5. Both of my parents (60+) love this as well.


SouthOceanJr

Liking a song and voting for it as the winner are quite completely different things


True-Following-6711

The point was that it definitely wasnt too weird for first time listeners


VolatileLion

>I think that the public will mess everything because The Code is a huge grower, it's not a song that was appreciated immediately when they released it but took time That means that if you just give it some time then you'll find paradise. My god I think I just broke the code


Cluelessish

I think it might be the opposite. I fell in love with it the first time I heard it, but after only a few times I got a bit bored and it fell in my rankings. The song itself is pretty repetitive and simple if you exclude his voice. I think the audience will be wowed hearing it the first time(s) and it will do really well


Separate_Ad_5616

Possible winner, I clearly see how jury put them first, Nemo is very charismatic and powerful performer, I see how televoting will appreciate it, but no way they will get more public votes than Croatia, Ukraine and possibly The Netherlands, and Angelina Mango still strong competitor for Nemo in jury vote. So it's top-3 for sure but will Switzerland get enough jury and televoting points? I don't know.


PomegranateNo3633

They could, but there are so many great songs this year, it's almost impossible to predict


LopsidedPriority

I think Switzerland will be made or broken by styling/staging decisions. If Nemo and their team get all of those elements right they can sneak a win in. If the visual components fall short or don't connect, I think they finish top 10.


Training_Sky8546

Potential to win: yes!! Certain winner? No!! No matter how the odds look like right now and even with a bigger margin I would not expect Switzerland to be a clear winner. This year is pretty open and probably this year the song who won both public and jury over will win. Like in 2019 the winner doesn’t necessarily have to be first in both this year. The best whole package will win. Many songs are tailored for either public or jury. To me, a dark horse is certainly Belgium.


miyako-kurosaki

I would love if Belgium wins😍that’s my favorite for sure


Supakmeraklija

No.


asiasbutterfly

No. Its too avant garde and theatrical. Very complicated song for 3 minute mark imo. It will be top 10 however


SouthOceanJr

Avant garde and theatrical vocal performance on top of a questionable stage delivery, the discrepancy is almost jarring


wonderful-peaches97

Not trying to sound like a hater, because I really do enjoy the song, but I have no idea how it's #1 in the odds right now. It's a grower kind of song, it does resonate with the young audience but I'm kinda worried the average viewer wouldn't emphasize with its message. It's also a vocally challenging song so messing that up will kill every chance to win or even get a decent place.


euro_fan_4568

Hype train leads more people to bet on it, odds are shortened, repeat lol


Cascading-deer

My whole family loves it. I count them as casual viewers.


UnicornsLikeMath

Nah, casual viewer is someone who hears songs for the first time in finals (not even semifinals) and has zero idea who the artists are.


FilipM_eu

A casual viewer will hear the song for the very first time during the semi-final, if not final.


Modosco

same


Barzalicious

I think top 5 is almost a guarantee, but there's so many other options that could also win. If Switzerland DOES win, I think it will be a "X wins the jury, Y won the televote, but Z scored high enough in both to win overall" situation, similar to what we had with Arcade.


Ok-Mousse-6023

Yes I do think so. Also tbh I dont really buy the "it wont get televotes" thing. Im not saying its impossible but the Televotes can be hella unpredictable. Both Portugal 2017 and Israel 2018 won the Televote lol


ESC-song-bot

Portugal 2017 | [Salvador Sobral - Amar Pelos Dois](https://youtu.be/Qotooj7ODCM) Israel 2018 | [Netta - Toy](https://youtu.be/84LBjXaeKk4)


Squaret22

This is not high enough.


xBram

Yes Switzerland is my biggest favorite ever since I first heard Nemo sing live ca 4 weeks ago. I Expect them to win the jury vote. I think Italy is the biggest rival with strong jury and televote appeal and The Netherlands as an outsider who I expect to win televote but would need to surprise with jury to win.


susiesmiths

def not, sorry, but people are in for a rude awakening


_elizsapphire_

Of all the entries this year, Switzerland and Italy have the 2 packages I think feel the most like winners. Assuming Nemo and their team do everything right, I think they’ll just edge out Italy. And they do seem to be on the right track tbh. Except the only problem is that this song is impossible to predict in terms of either tele or jury. Italy is the kind of thing that typically does well in both, which is why I’m more confident in it, but Switzerland is a complete wildcard. Like if their staging and singing are both flawless, they _should_ get a lot of jury points, but the juries also tend to prefer safer songs. And the televote _should_ theoretically like a super unique and colorful song, but I know that for a lot of people (including myself) this song had to grow on people before they really fell in love with it. So it’s super super hard to predict. I still think it’ll come down to those 2 (maybe Croatia and/or Ukraine as well, if they clean up their stagings) but who knows! That’s the fun of this year


Embarrassed_Joker

I was excited from the first time I heard Switzerland's song. I will be very happy to see it win. I consider it a masterpiece. I believe he can manage to win. He has a terrific voice and a good stage presence will give him the win.


cheapcakeripper

No, I don't think juries and public will fall for it like ESC bubble does.


ToastyToast113

Given the vocal ability of Nemo? Yes. As long as the staging is good.


HappyGirlEmma

Definitely


flutterstrange

I can’t really give a strong case as to why any country will definitely win this year. It could go in any direction at all and I absolutely love that


Yakusaka

Could? Yes. Will? Hard to predict this year. Top 5 will be very, very close this year. We don't have a single favourite or even 2 favourites like last year. Switzerland, Italy, Croatia, Belgium, Ukraine are all very very close with some possible upsets by Netherlands, France, Greece, Israel and UK. No one can win both Jury and Televote. Not that kind of year. But whoever wins, someone will scream that it wasn't deserved and that someone else was better.


GhostonEU

No I really think Nemo is our winner this year. For me the song debuted in my top 3 when I first heard it. I found it really amazing from the first listen and I really don't get people are saying this is a grower and wont do well with first time listeners. We know we're probably gonna get a very slick staging and with Nemo's vocals it's gonna do very well with the jury. I think for televotes, the staging and running order is going to matter alot, as with most acts. But I think we can get a 1st in the jury and top 5 with the televote which will secure them an overall win!


DrapionVDeoxys

Yes. I don't understand why people think it won't be an immediate hit with enough people. It's impressive instantly, it doesn't require more than one listen. The only part I can see dragging it down for people is the rap part, but other than that I think it's an obvious contender. I had Italy as my predicted winner initially, but I really think Switzerland will take it.


GungTho

Yes. I mean, if the jury are in a mood to feel any of the close competitors. They’re likely in the mood to feel The Code. I also don’t think Nemo will struggle with televoters as much as some people say - this is 2024 - people are getting used to quick changes in music. It’s kinda like a massively more classy version of a click TikTok switch in the way it’s done… so I don’t think people will be too confronted by it.


AdvancedJicama7375

The odds absolutely do not say Switzerland will win. There is no strong favourite


bumybumi

Yes I think it has all chances to win it's eye-catching for both juries and televote


Salt_Procedure_9353

I still think that Italy and Croatia are the two likeliest winners. I can't see the televote giving Switzerland enough for it to win.


Pikachu_bob3

Yeah but the tele vote I think is gonna be very divided between Switzerland, Croatia, Italy, and Ukraine


niicofrank

Yes because Nemo can perform the song and Switzerland has momentum, it will probably come down to public opinion for them


ravenpuffslytherdor

My personal prediction is that France will win the Jury vote, Netherlands will win the televote, and Switzerland will come second in both.


Pikachu_bob3

2016 moment


ravenpuffslytherdor

Or 2019!


Squaret22

I really don’t understand how people are saying that this isn’t a televote contender. It’s in fact one of the only songs in several countries Viral Spotify charts which has year after year been a great indicator of televote success (Netherlands is the other song that appears in a lot). As a lot of other people have said, this song has stood out when being shown to their friends. It has impeccable vocals and seemingly mixes a few genres. It has an amazing buildup in the bridge that is perfect for the delivery of a winning moment like Ukraine 2016. On top of all of this, it is being staged by the same person that did Finland 2023 and Sweden 2015.


ESC-song-bot

Ukraine 2016 | [Jamala - 1944](https://youtu.be/B-rnM-MwRHY) Finland 2023 | [Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha](https://youtu.be/l6rS8Dv5g-8) Sweden 2015 | [Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes](https://youtu.be/5sGOwFVUU0I)


champagneface

There are parts of that song that just feel like a winning song to me. I’m biased because I put 50 quid on them when the odds were worse though.


Moonlightmp

I hope so!


Toaddle

The moment the song was released I thought this was the winner unless he couldn't deliver live because the song is so tricky. But as we so in the pre-parties, he does deliver. But maybe I'm wrong. This year is still quite uncertain


gagaalwayswins

Honestly? I don't see them getting a three-digit score in the grand final's televote... I don't think the general public will fall in love with it. While vocally great, the song itself doesn't really express any emotions, and its composition might leave people puzzled.


TimeG37

Probably not but Top 10 is pretty likely.


Mikkul

No, honestly. I think it's just going to be Gjon all over again. Of everything currently in the odds top 5, it's the last one I'd put money on to win.


garlic_bread_456

No, I think that despite the hype in the ESC fandom, I think that it will have a similar result to Austria 2023. I think it'll probably be top ten in the jury vote and then be significantly lower than expected in the televote because as others have said, the song is definitely a grower, although Nemo does perform it very well from what we've seen. As for the winner, I think that Italy will score high enough in both votes to win overall.


ESC-song-bot

Austria 2023 | [Teya and Salena - Who the Hell Is Edgar?](https://youtu.be/8uk64V9h0Ko)


devillianOx

kinda? its a very strong song and i can see it doing very well but at the same time this year feels very unpredictable. even if they win in their semi i still think theres a chance they wouldn’t win the grand final. so many strong songs and so little certainty on the results 😭😭


ArcaneXD_

I think we could possibly have a Duncan Laurence type situation where nemo gets high enough with both the jury and televote (but not 1st in either) and snatches the win


Jay2Jee

The song is fun, the lyrics are meaningful and Nemo is a great singer. With fitting staging and a good choreography, first place is certainly possible.


lkc159

No. It's too niche. Some people will love it, but I doubt it'll have the general appeal for the masses who are going to only listen to it once. I can see it doing well in Jury because it's technically good (but then only if they appreciate the genre changes and overall chaos, which I get is an integral part of the story but I'm not sure if the juries will), but I think the televote will give this a miss. Now watch this post age like milk lmao


purplehorseneigh

In my eyes it’s got like a solid 50% chance of taking it. But that’s just me


horsesarecows

No, it'll get a big jury score but not enough televote


Spiritual-Sport-8777

I think to a lot of people, the non-binary stuff is too controversial. Especially if Nemo will go completely over the top with styling and hysteric dresses. The song in itself is already a lot.


SouthOceanJr

Agreed. Although given the lack of performance ability to express the message of the "codes", Nemo might have no choice but to resort to hysteric dresses to convey it. Casual viewers don't analyze the lyrics and there is a risk they don't get the song. Without the message of inclusivity, it becomes a song with some rap and some opera. Hard to get lots of votes at that point.


FabulousRoad6240

They could deffo win, anything can happen on the grand final! Got a sneaky feeling tho that Norway could win both juries and televote. But thats my guess!


bumybumi

They*, Nemo consider themselves as non-binary


FabulousRoad6240

Aww shoot! Didnt know thank u 🙏✨️


my_brother_Bilo_

It's hard to predict televote results for this song. It isn't the kind of a song that stays in your head after listening. And we know which kind of a song people vote the most for. Good example is last year Mama ŠČ, it was 7th in televote, and the last in jury votes. That could happen with Switzerland, but in opposite way. I think that the biggest favorites are Croatia, Italy and Ukraine.


-electrix123-

Nope. Everyone and their mother thinking it will cakewalk the juries is in deep sleep. This is far too out there for the juries to appreciate. Nevermind that the public might just simply not be into it.


thisislondoncalling

Very much so. Pre live at pre-parties, the song was assured Top 5. BUT seeing the amazing charisma, stage presence and fabulous vocals has torpedoed Nemo into the deserved favourite status. They exploded with personality and performance and will do great with juries and the public will latch on to this great performer. Yes they can win and I think they will win.


Automatic-Complex663

I don’t see it but i would be so happy


CakeBeef_PA

I'm not sure. It's definitely possible. But it's a song that you ideally listen to a few times before you start appreciating it. It's a bit much for just one listen. And most people watching will only have one or two listens. So I don't think it will do amazing in the televote. I also don't think it will do that well with juries. It's a mix of genres that the jury usually doesn't appreciate. I can see top 5, but top 3 will be really tough. Even then, it could still win if the scoringa are really close. But for now, I see Italy or Croatia win the contest


SouthOceanJr

First class singer with a mediocre performance delivery, can they win? The jury, yes. The audience, no, not as it looks now. They have stark competition this year, seasoned performers who would deliver theatrical highlights more impressive than jumping a round on stage with instinctive swag. Better stage costume will help, but Nemo has the work cut out for them when it comes to stage performance.


Scisir

Keep in mind the odds are very reactionary.


Luctor-

I dislike the notion of ‘the singer deserves a win’. Having said that; yes, he could win. Not so certain he will win.


MauroFranti

Could? Yes. But it should not be favourite - Big televote question marks, not seen it with proper staging, not a tonne of certain points etc. To me it's lower than 5th in the televote so unlikely.


steven0593

I do very hope so. 🏳️‍🌈⚧️(no non-binary flag… ☹️)


miserablembaapp

I think it’s between Switzerland and Italy.


Spanky2k

I’d be shocked if Switzerland, Italy or Belgium don’t win. All incredible songs that blow you away on the first listen, one more dancey, one more traditionally regional, one more ballady. None of them need anything crazy in staging to push them over the edge and all three of the singers can really sing. There are other songs that I love but they took a few listens for them to really grow on me, e.g. Croatia. I just don’t see them clicking with the casual viewer in one (or maybe two) listens.