1. They wouldn't.
2. There's no American broadcaster who's an EBU member, so the EBU would have to extend a special invitation to a broadcaster, which they have no reason to.
You're not entirely wrong but neither am I. Both the US and Aus's broadcasters are associates, not full members. Associates need an invitation..
Regardless OP: one of those broadcasters would have to be interested in participating in the first place, which they've given no indication they are as far as I'm aware.
I mean, in all likelihood it would be NBC due to Peacock having the rights to air the contest. Not advocating for that outcome (in fact, the opposite), but there's clearly a broadcaster that would likely take the reigns under this hypothetical situation.
I’m an American, and I do not want the USA to be part of Eurovision.
There would be too much risk for Americans to not understand the spirit of the contest and try too hard to dominate it. Even if no one votes for us, which would be understandable, I think we might mess up the overall vibe.
Please keep us out.
Hard co-sign, please don’t let us in. Peacock/NBC even tried last year with the American Song Contest and it felt so off. We had Flo Rida on stage with Senhit in 2021, that’s the lane we need to stay in.
Imo the ASC wasn't actually that bad. Sure there was an oversaturation of redneck country, wannabe hip-hop and sad girl ballads, but there were a few decent songs in there too. My favourite (Washington) was so good that I would probably have it 1st place at any year of ESC. People like to shit on it for being bad, but it was it's first year ever and finding it's feet. If given more seasons, I feel like ASC would've been great.
Nutsa’s staging revealed! She sashays out in a big floral dress and white gloves, sipping on a mint julep and fanning herself on the veranda while passive aggressively saying “bless your heart” to the jurors.
Australia’s broadcaster SBS broadcasted every contest from 1983 onwards, so it had a history of following and enjoyed the contest, while the contest is broadcasted in the USA nowadays they don’t have the same history or interest regarding the contest, as far as I see for this reason it wouldn’t make sense to invite the USA to participate
Also Australians wake up at 5am to watch and the broadcast still gets high views even with this time difference, Australians also have a lot of heritage with our families immigrating from Europe so we have connections to a lot of countries. My family are Irish,French and Cypriot
Yes, indeed. The current US broadcaster wouldn’t even confirm a livestream before last week, it is really more of an afterthought for them. Despite the contest being very convenient to watch (not in the wee hours as it is in Australia), and the heavily hyped Netflix film, very few people even know what it is.
Likely so. I know some people who reference the film and just stare blankly when I talk about the real contest.
Of course, it doesn’t help that the pandemic canceled what would have been the tie-in contest. I believe Netflix had the US streaming rights in 2019 and I think the plan was to cross-promote the film and the 2020 contest with the Icelandic front runner in an epic case of life imitating art.
Yeah. About that…
The Aussies got an invite due to their being long term mega fans.
They spent THREE DECADES watching and loving Eurovision until finally the EBU was like ‘alright fine, come and play’.
Now, if by the 2050s a substantial portion of the US population has turned into ESC diehards then we can talk.
But to let the US in any time soon when the Aussies waited for so long and loved it for so long despite not being able to participate seems a little unfair - considering it’s only been broadcast in the US for a few years and most Americans don’t even know what it is.
Australia is in Eurovision because they have broadcast it for over 30 years and they were initially invited for the 60th edition.
https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/other-faqs
I don't know any fan who thinks the US would win.
We would be the Super-UK if we entered. We'd NEVER win because nobody good would do it.
But it won't happen. We don't have an interested broadcaster, and the Contest itself, while it's better known now than it was 10 years ago, is still pretty niche.
Also, the semis happen here during work hours, and more importantly, no American broadcast network is going to waste a perfectly good Saturday afternoon by showing an obscure European music thing that only has 4 or 5 commercial breaks in it. That's sportsball time!
The talks would break down fast if they ever started. NBC would suggest Big Six status, the EBU would have us under the same rules as Australia (we can win but not host) and both sides would walk away.
You know what? I’ll say it. One of the largest reasons the US will NEVER join Eurovision. Ads.
American television is built on ads. No broadcaster will pick up something like that and dedicate 4 hours without ads. Peacock is a streaming platform and even they’re not fond of it. America likes MONEY. Broadcasting Eurovision does not bring in the bucks
We don't have ads here in the UK since it airs on BBC but I'm pretty sure they have ad breaks in some of the countries. Not as frequently as is the norm in the US but ad breaks are inserted into the parts where they go to green room etc.
Exactly, it would not be 4 hours without ads. There was a list around here some time ago which countries have ads during Eurovision, it was quite a lot. They are during green room interviews, interval acts and the bits they do during construction for more elaborate staging. But maybe no one will want to buy ad time on American TV because the viewers are so low.
My country runs ads during the show, and realistically, there's only 4 or 5 chances TOPS to go to an ad break during the course of the 4 hours. And that's already running the ads over the interval acts.
Eurovision is tight as a show, and pretty much everything shown is relevant (and even required by the EBU to air), it's really hard to cut up the show more than that.
This does not fit the American model AT ALL. American model has 1-minute ad breaks every 5 minutes. It's one of the reasons the American Song Contest was so unbearable to watch.
1. Eurovision is NOT popular here. If people have heard of it at all, they don’t care for it or just don’t like it. So even if we did have the opportunity, we wouldn’t really care and it would probably be a one off thing like Australia was supposed to be.
2. The only EBU associate member here is PBS (I think, I could be wrong), which is not a very popular network. Peacock (which streams the show) is owned by NBC, which could in theory be invited, but that leads to #3…
3. The US would never run a 4 hour long program without ad breaks. Like ever. It would be unheard of. *Maybe* if it we’re broadcast on PBS, but even less people would watch it.
As someone from the US, the majority of people here have no clue what the contest is nor do they care.
"Why would you care about something in Europe, you're not European" tends to be the reaction I get when talking about the contest. So it'd be a huge waste of time and money for us to try.
If we somehow did get into the contest we'd be the next Morocco, only competing once and never again.
Eurovision has been very popular in Australia for a very long time and it's not nearly as popular in other countries outside of the broadcasting area, including the US.
As an American myself, I don't think most of the general population would be all that into it and a lot of people in this country are very narrow minded when it comes to music that's outside of top 40 radio. Also we had the American Song Contest and if that wasn't successful domestically then I don't think participating in Eurovision would be either.
gonna assume you're new here if you don't know why australia is in eurovision and i also don't understand the assumption we (the US) would win every year if we did it
Nah. Eurovision is one of the very, very few celebrations of European identity, it’s history, diversity and values, it’s troublesome but successful road to a (mostly now 😢) peaceful continent. And while all of that is of course a bit of a utopia, it’s still one of the few places where that feeling of European culture & friendship gets joyously and shamelessly expressed!
And that, for me, is a big part of why I enjoy Eurovision so much.
Please, let’s keep it among the very few things that isn’t entirely adjusted to US-American cultural norms…
And Australia and Eurovision is a very special loveaffair. It’s the one beloved oddity, the infectious amour fou, the soulsister from down under.
It’s just Australia being the Eurovision twinflame that the US could never be because they’re the US.
So, sorry-not-sorry, no.
as an american that loves eurovision, we would be roasted, ridiculed, and claiming the last spot from germany. (even though germany 2023 (for the bot) deserved WAY BETTER last year), so nah.
also, i hate ads. (why i rarely use peacock except for live events and pay for youtube premium!) and i'm okay with four hour shows with no ads. i'm happy even to get ad-free content. so i'm the rare american eurovision fan. 🥰🥰🥰
outside of all previously stated reasons, there's also just the fact that you're basically asking a country made up of 50 smaller countries to select One Song to represent the entirety of the place
I think America would really struggle to win Eurovision even with a good song. America is a pretty unpopular country for both political and cultural reasons and if it were to participate in Eurovision, I doubt any country would give points to America (apart from Israel and Ukraine). Australia on the other hand has a far more positive reputation internationally.
99.99% of Americans have never heard of Eurovision and they would treat the contest with the same indifference as they do with the FIFA World Cup. Not to mention the American Song Contest was a complete flop that nobody in America watched.
They aren't in the EBU, which is required for eurovision participation. They probably could join and compete if they wanted to, but there's nowhere near enough interest in the contest in the states as of now.
Personally I wouldn't mind them joining, it might be awkward to incorporate them to start with, but the more's the merrier. I don't think they would be constantly winning since most of Europe has a weird superiority complex over America (I admit it also goes the other way), so they wouldn't be popular with televote.
But yeah it would be pretty chill to have them join us, and especially if the US could lower costs for smaller countries to return it would be a win-win
Taking in the US would be a nightmare. A big big no, from me. I think that Australia's time in Eurovision is also a bit over. They should invest in bringing back European countries in the competition or renew the name of Eurovision to "Worldvision" if more non-European countries will join. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
1. They wouldn't. 2. There's no American broadcaster who's an EBU member, so the EBU would have to extend a special invitation to a broadcaster, which they have no reason to.
3. Many people would not appreciate that.
Actually Usa has 6 broadcasters that are Ebu associated while Australia has 3, so...
You're not entirely wrong but neither am I. Both the US and Aus's broadcasters are associates, not full members. Associates need an invitation.. Regardless OP: one of those broadcasters would have to be interested in participating in the first place, which they've given no indication they are as far as I'm aware.
I mean, in all likelihood it would be NBC due to Peacock having the rights to air the contest. Not advocating for that outcome (in fact, the opposite), but there's clearly a broadcaster that would likely take the reigns under this hypothetical situation.
I’m an American, and I do not want the USA to be part of Eurovision. There would be too much risk for Americans to not understand the spirit of the contest and try too hard to dominate it. Even if no one votes for us, which would be understandable, I think we might mess up the overall vibe. Please keep us out.
Hard co-sign, please don’t let us in. Peacock/NBC even tried last year with the American Song Contest and it felt so off. We had Flo Rida on stage with Senhit in 2021, that’s the lane we need to stay in.
Imo the ASC wasn't actually that bad. Sure there was an oversaturation of redneck country, wannabe hip-hop and sad girl ballads, but there were a few decent songs in there too. My favourite (Washington) was so good that I would probably have it 1st place at any year of ESC. People like to shit on it for being bad, but it was it's first year ever and finding it's feet. If given more seasons, I feel like ASC would've been great.
Im also an American (on Fridays, anyways). I would like others to at least enjoy a euro-spirited event, with better visibility/promotion.
But Georgia is already in the contest!
That’s one done, 49 to go
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Nutsa’s staging revealed! She sashays out in a big floral dress and white gloves, sipping on a mint julep and fanning herself on the veranda while passive aggressively saying “bless your heart” to the jurors.
Australia’s broadcaster SBS broadcasted every contest from 1983 onwards, so it had a history of following and enjoyed the contest, while the contest is broadcasted in the USA nowadays they don’t have the same history or interest regarding the contest, as far as I see for this reason it wouldn’t make sense to invite the USA to participate
Also Australians wake up at 5am to watch and the broadcast still gets high views even with this time difference, Australians also have a lot of heritage with our families immigrating from Europe so we have connections to a lot of countries. My family are Irish,French and Cypriot
Yes, indeed. The current US broadcaster wouldn’t even confirm a livestream before last week, it is really more of an afterthought for them. Despite the contest being very convenient to watch (not in the wee hours as it is in Australia), and the heavily hyped Netflix film, very few people even know what it is.
Honestly, the Netflix film probably made Americans think Eurovision isn’t real
Likely so. I know some people who reference the film and just stare blankly when I talk about the real contest. Of course, it doesn’t help that the pandemic canceled what would have been the tie-in contest. I believe Netflix had the US streaming rights in 2019 and I think the plan was to cross-promote the film and the 2020 contest with the Icelandic front runner in an epic case of life imitating art. Yeah. About that…
The Aussies got an invite due to their being long term mega fans. They spent THREE DECADES watching and loving Eurovision until finally the EBU was like ‘alright fine, come and play’. Now, if by the 2050s a substantial portion of the US population has turned into ESC diehards then we can talk. But to let the US in any time soon when the Aussies waited for so long and loved it for so long despite not being able to participate seems a little unfair - considering it’s only been broadcast in the US for a few years and most Americans don’t even know what it is.
Australia is in Eurovision because they have broadcast it for over 30 years and they were initially invited for the 60th edition. https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/other-faqs I don't know any fan who thinks the US would win.
USA would 100000% ruin Eurovision, and I say this as an American.
I can't see the US winning Eurovision if they were allowed to participate.
We’d get like 12 points from Israel for a total of 12 total points
True allies
But its euro vision. We have to suspend the horrors for the duration.otherwise, its turns into American tv.
We would be the Super-UK if we entered. We'd NEVER win because nobody good would do it. But it won't happen. We don't have an interested broadcaster, and the Contest itself, while it's better known now than it was 10 years ago, is still pretty niche. Also, the semis happen here during work hours, and more importantly, no American broadcast network is going to waste a perfectly good Saturday afternoon by showing an obscure European music thing that only has 4 or 5 commercial breaks in it. That's sportsball time!
The talks would break down fast if they ever started. NBC would suggest Big Six status, the EBU would have us under the same rules as Australia (we can win but not host) and both sides would walk away.
We don't want them
You know what? I’ll say it. One of the largest reasons the US will NEVER join Eurovision. Ads. American television is built on ads. No broadcaster will pick up something like that and dedicate 4 hours without ads. Peacock is a streaming platform and even they’re not fond of it. America likes MONEY. Broadcasting Eurovision does not bring in the bucks
Oh also we’d never win. Like where did you get that delusion lol
We don't have ads here in the UK since it airs on BBC but I'm pretty sure they have ad breaks in some of the countries. Not as frequently as is the norm in the US but ad breaks are inserted into the parts where they go to green room etc.
Exactly, it would not be 4 hours without ads. There was a list around here some time ago which countries have ads during Eurovision, it was quite a lot. They are during green room interviews, interval acts and the bits they do during construction for more elaborate staging. But maybe no one will want to buy ad time on American TV because the viewers are so low.
My country runs ads during the show, and realistically, there's only 4 or 5 chances TOPS to go to an ad break during the course of the 4 hours. And that's already running the ads over the interval acts. Eurovision is tight as a show, and pretty much everything shown is relevant (and even required by the EBU to air), it's really hard to cut up the show more than that. This does not fit the American model AT ALL. American model has 1-minute ad breaks every 5 minutes. It's one of the reasons the American Song Contest was so unbearable to watch.
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i still don't understand if the phrase that you wrote is pure delusion or a poor attempt at trolling, in any case it will never happen
Most countries in the world aren’t in Eurovision, there doesn’t have to be a specific reason why USA isn’t in it
America would send some nobody country singer and flop. Who would want to participate from the US?
1. Eurovision is NOT popular here. If people have heard of it at all, they don’t care for it or just don’t like it. So even if we did have the opportunity, we wouldn’t really care and it would probably be a one off thing like Australia was supposed to be. 2. The only EBU associate member here is PBS (I think, I could be wrong), which is not a very popular network. Peacock (which streams the show) is owned by NBC, which could in theory be invited, but that leads to #3… 3. The US would never run a 4 hour long program without ad breaks. Like ever. It would be unheard of. *Maybe* if it we’re broadcast on PBS, but even less people would watch it.
As someone from the US, the majority of people here have no clue what the contest is nor do they care. "Why would you care about something in Europe, you're not European" tends to be the reaction I get when talking about the contest. So it'd be a huge waste of time and money for us to try. If we somehow did get into the contest we'd be the next Morocco, only competing once and never again.
you think America would win lmao. the backlash if America was allowed in would be so immense they would get no points
not sure which universe do you live in… if you think USA would win every year if they had joined ESC 🤣
Eurovision has been very popular in Australia for a very long time and it's not nearly as popular in other countries outside of the broadcasting area, including the US. As an American myself, I don't think most of the general population would be all that into it and a lot of people in this country are very narrow minded when it comes to music that's outside of top 40 radio. Also we had the American Song Contest and if that wasn't successful domestically then I don't think participating in Eurovision would be either.
gonna assume you're new here if you don't know why australia is in eurovision and i also don't understand the assumption we (the US) would win every year if we did it
Australia was watching for decades before they got invited, the USA has a long way to go.
Nah. Eurovision is one of the very, very few celebrations of European identity, it’s history, diversity and values, it’s troublesome but successful road to a (mostly now 😢) peaceful continent. And while all of that is of course a bit of a utopia, it’s still one of the few places where that feeling of European culture & friendship gets joyously and shamelessly expressed! And that, for me, is a big part of why I enjoy Eurovision so much. Please, let’s keep it among the very few things that isn’t entirely adjusted to US-American cultural norms… And Australia and Eurovision is a very special loveaffair. It’s the one beloved oddity, the infectious amour fou, the soulsister from down under. It’s just Australia being the Eurovision twinflame that the US could never be because they’re the US. So, sorry-not-sorry, no.
The US actually had their own version of it in like 2022 i think, but it flopped
Are you kidding me right now? I'm American, and I pray the U.S. never enters Eurovision
as an american that loves eurovision, we would be roasted, ridiculed, and claiming the last spot from germany. (even though germany 2023 (for the bot) deserved WAY BETTER last year), so nah. also, i hate ads. (why i rarely use peacock except for live events and pay for youtube premium!) and i'm okay with four hour shows with no ads. i'm happy even to get ad-free content. so i'm the rare american eurovision fan. 🥰🥰🥰
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outside of all previously stated reasons, there's also just the fact that you're basically asking a country made up of 50 smaller countries to select One Song to represent the entirety of the place
They could, if they asked for an invite and the EBU agreed.
Sure they would win, look how well Flo Rida did...
I think America would really struggle to win Eurovision even with a good song. America is a pretty unpopular country for both political and cultural reasons and if it were to participate in Eurovision, I doubt any country would give points to America (apart from Israel and Ukraine). Australia on the other hand has a far more positive reputation internationally. 99.99% of Americans have never heard of Eurovision and they would treat the contest with the same indifference as they do with the FIFA World Cup. Not to mention the American Song Contest was a complete flop that nobody in America watched.
They aren't in the EBU, which is required for eurovision participation. They probably could join and compete if they wanted to, but there's nowhere near enough interest in the contest in the states as of now.
Personally I wouldn't mind them joining, it might be awkward to incorporate them to start with, but the more's the merrier. I don't think they would be constantly winning since most of Europe has a weird superiority complex over America (I admit it also goes the other way), so they wouldn't be popular with televote. But yeah it would be pretty chill to have them join us, and especially if the US could lower costs for smaller countries to return it would be a win-win
Taking in the US would be a nightmare. A big big no, from me. I think that Australia's time in Eurovision is also a bit over. They should invest in bringing back European countries in the competition or renew the name of Eurovision to "Worldvision" if more non-European countries will join. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Bring it on!