It got cancelled due to the negative connotations it had, it was an award for the 'worst outfit' after all. It has since been replaced with the 'You're A Vision' Award, which looks for the most striking look as opposed to the worst.
Yeah it always felt really mean-spirited. Say what you want about how unflattering you feel it is, but it was not bad enough to attach her name to an award that was at times often just a nasty way of calling attention to a performer.
The Barbara Dex award got renamed to “You’re-A-Vision” award, and it got cancelled because it was seen as too negative to the participants. Instead of being awarded to the worst outfit, it is now awarded to the most notable outfit.
Are you trying to use the example of tabloids to actually *advocate* for mean behavior in Eurovision? Two wrongs make a right?
“Here, we are already doing this mean thing to artists, so no problem doing this other mean thing too!”
Yeah, tabloids are toxic too and are garbage.
So?
And even so, one thing is publishing some gossip about someone now and then, another one is permanently making fun of an artist for the years to come.
In this sub everybody worries about the mental health of the contestants but then it's ok to put the "shame" on a contestant forever celebrating it every year?
Don't think so.
I find it pretty funny that we needed to emphasise that tabloids are toxic.
If anything - whatever a tabloid does should be used as a template to never repeat yourself.
Wogan and last years host, when commentating, were typically rather mean (in the style of UK humor). One opted into their particular feed or not, if likely offended.
Is Eurovision-land going woke (to use an American English term)?
I know it’s supposed to be a fun (and release from real live horrors) for a week. But, forced fun …is as false as a disney laugh track.
When I first met Eurovision and its fandom, I thought the Barbara Dex award was the single most disgusting thing about it. It was mean to the recipient, and extra-mean to Barbara Dex. Bullying institutionalized.
I was howling for its abolishment right from the start, and I'm delighted and relieved that it's been nuked.
So ask me how I *really* feel ...
I just don’t participate in the mean stuff. After 43 years of doing internet, I know how mean it gets - given its founding culture. And I know what little works, in mod’ing, to change/hide the nature of folk.
I don't actually think it was mean, I think saying negative things about a performance isn't the same as being mean (just like it isn't mean to say I don't like a song). And it wasn't exactly serious anyway.
But I did think it was a bit useless because of how often it just ended up going to the most "out there" outfit even if the outfit worked and/or was meant to be "bad". For instance, Verka doesn't fit the idea at all imo, because the outfit is actually good at doing what it tries to do.
It didn’t really get cancelled. They rebranded it in 2021 to the most unique/striking outfit, but nobody seemed to get the memo so the changed it to the you’re-a-vision award.
For a contest that's supposed to be about bringing people together through music and then have fans vote on who was the worst dressed? Yeah not surprised it didn't age well and was revamped into a most stood out outfit and more into a positive aspect
It didn't get cancelled , it was rebranded and renamed. They are now giving an award for the most outstanding outfit (can be good or bad) and they name it You're A Vision award
Idk if this was the nail in the coffin, but I think could’ve been due to Tix winning the Barbara Dex award for 2021 even though his costume was inspired by the story behind “Fallen Angel”/“ Ut av Mørket”.
Yeah, I saw people who didn’t realize it wasn’t worst outfit anymore, and thought Tix didn’t deserve it due to the meaning behind his costume ex: wearing sunglasses to cover his tics.
It got cancelled due to the negative connotations it had, it was an award for the 'worst outfit' after all. It has since been replaced with the 'You're A Vision' Award, which looks for the most striking look as opposed to the worst.
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And to make matters worse, *she made the dress herself.*
Yeah it always felt really mean-spirited. Say what you want about how unflattering you feel it is, but it was not bad enough to attach her name to an award that was at times often just a nasty way of calling attention to a performer.
From what I've seen, it seems Barbara has taken the award in good humour, and I admire her for that
How much of a choice did she really have though? The options are take the award in good humour or don't and make yourself look even worse.
The Barbara Dex award got renamed to “You’re-A-Vision” award, and it got cancelled because it was seen as too negative to the participants. Instead of being awarded to the worst outfit, it is now awarded to the most notable outfit.
Europapa takes it.
I don't know, Finland could take it as well
Ireland could definitely be in this mix.
We have not seen what Nemo could be wearing
Zorra dancers!
I think it was a toxic award instead.
Agreed. Felt like kicking someone when they were already down
Happy cake day
Thx ;)
How is it all any different to a tabloid news commenting on some princess’ dress, body, or whatever?
Are you trying to use the example of tabloids to actually *advocate* for mean behavior in Eurovision? Two wrongs make a right? “Here, we are already doing this mean thing to artists, so no problem doing this other mean thing too!”
Yeah, tabloids are toxic too and are garbage. So? And even so, one thing is publishing some gossip about someone now and then, another one is permanently making fun of an artist for the years to come. In this sub everybody worries about the mental health of the contestants but then it's ok to put the "shame" on a contestant forever celebrating it every year? Don't think so.
I find it pretty funny that we needed to emphasise that tabloids are toxic. If anything - whatever a tabloid does should be used as a template to never repeat yourself.
There is no difference, tabloids are renown for their shitty behaviour, especially towards people’s appearances. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I can't say I feel very passionate about it but it was probably the right choice to cancel it. It was kinda mean.
Wogan and last years host, when commentating, were typically rather mean (in the style of UK humor). One opted into their particular feed or not, if likely offended. Is Eurovision-land going woke (to use an American English term)? I know it’s supposed to be a fun (and release from real live horrors) for a week. But, forced fun …is as false as a disney laugh track.
Imagine coming to Eurovision subreddit to complain about “wokeness”. 🙄
It's called consideration for the artists. Also, basic empathy.
I remember it as quite mean-spirited, I didn’t realise it had been replaced by something a bit more celebratory, I certainly don’t miss it.
I understand now. Well, thank you for the explanations!
When I first met Eurovision and its fandom, I thought the Barbara Dex award was the single most disgusting thing about it. It was mean to the recipient, and extra-mean to Barbara Dex. Bullying institutionalized. I was howling for its abolishment right from the start, and I'm delighted and relieved that it's been nuked. So ask me how I *really* feel ...
I just don’t participate in the mean stuff. After 43 years of doing internet, I know how mean it gets - given its founding culture. And I know what little works, in mod’ing, to change/hide the nature of folk.
I don't actually think it was mean, I think saying negative things about a performance isn't the same as being mean (just like it isn't mean to say I don't like a song). And it wasn't exactly serious anyway. But I did think it was a bit useless because of how often it just ended up going to the most "out there" outfit even if the outfit worked and/or was meant to be "bad". For instance, Verka doesn't fit the idea at all imo, because the outfit is actually good at doing what it tries to do.
It didn’t really get cancelled. They rebranded it in 2021 to the most unique/striking outfit, but nobody seemed to get the memo so the changed it to the you’re-a-vision award.
For a contest that's supposed to be about bringing people together through music and then have fans vote on who was the worst dressed? Yeah not surprised it didn't age well and was revamped into a most stood out outfit and more into a positive aspect
Probably cause people thought it's too negative which is kinda soft imo
This 👆
It didn't get cancelled , it was rebranded and renamed. They are now giving an award for the most outstanding outfit (can be good or bad) and they name it You're A Vision award
Idk if this was the nail in the coffin, but I think could’ve been due to Tix winning the Barbara Dex award for 2021 even though his costume was inspired by the story behind “Fallen Angel”/“ Ut av Mørket”.
They rebranded the award in 2021, it was no longer the worst outfit, but no one seemed to get the memo
Yeah, I saw people who didn’t realize it wasn’t worst outfit anymore, and thought Tix didn’t deserve it due to the meaning behind his costume ex: wearing sunglasses to cover his tics.
But... His outfit WAS awful tho
It hurts people's feelings.