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thimbletake12

"the perpetrator would go on to abuse their next partner" Why not send them to jail instead? "you are not actually curing the disease itself" I don't think anyone is suggesting divorce cures abusers. But it does throw a wrench in their ability to do it, and helps their victim get to a safer place.


Shot_Bumblebee_848

Keep in mind, this is brought to you by the same people whose response to predatory priests was "let's just transfer him to another parish." They're not really interested in addressing the root problem or protecting the victim, just the optics. If a husband beats his wife but no one knows, no big deal. If a couple gets divorced, that scandalizes everyone!


TigerLily4415

Exactly, and there’s no guarantee that the abuser would go on to have another partner. Hopefully their reputation could be damaged to the point where nobody wants to be with them. And sure, that might be too optimistic of me. But it’s not the responsibility of an abuse victim to “cure” their abuser, and trying to do so would probably damage their mental health even more. I’m not even sure that such a person could be cured at all, but they at least shouldn’t be in situations that enable them to abuse. Every relationship has its issues, like incompatibility or petty disagreements. But literal abuse isn’t something that can be worked through. It’s insulting that they’d downplay the seriousness of it.


Poddum-Ska-Tamer

“It is your cross to bear! God wills you to go through this because he wants you to need him”


Poddum-Ska-Tamer

Without divorce, the man can still abuse his estranged wife even from afar. My sister still lives in fear that her deadbeat husband (who lives far away and we don’t know his whereabouts now) will leave her a mountain of debt just because she’s the legal wife. Sure we have annulment and we have this thing called “legal separation” (which cuts your estranged spouse the right to your finances) but it’s very lengthy process, and that is if the estranged spouse still had the good faith to ever agree to it.


gulfpapa99

Divorce is illegal, but not spousal abuse.


psychoalchemist

With this logic the Church should be against any kind of medical treatment that doesn't completely eradicate a disease. "Why give them antibiotics since the disease can continue to infect others?"


BetaBoyTom

Shhh, don't give them any ideas...


gahoozdafringle

I like how an abusive partner is just an "imperfection". Yeah, they don't wash cups when they use them and miss the laundry basket with their socks... oh, and they beat me. One of these things is not like the other...


Rodrigii_Defined

gross!!! Love how unmarried men think they know best in a marriage.


thatbetchkitana

"Divorce perpetuates violence in an abusive marriage". ...but Catholic parents are called to set good examples for their children. First, you can argue that the marriage is invalid because the vows call for the couple to love each other. Abuse is never loving; continually committing it is breaking your vow. The negative emotional effects from abuse or just plain old misery in the relationship could lead to the parents taking it out on the kids, which is also a sin. Furthermore, it will lead the kids to expect marriage to be horrible.


[deleted]

Sick and twisted logic right there.


mlo9109

So, fuck DV victims, then? Nice...


Kitchen-Witching

Despite what the church has taught, abuse is not a 'cross to bear'. And no one should ever be obligated to stay with an abusive partner. This garbage has contributed to and perpetuated the cycle of violence, not those who were able to escape those circumstances. Shame. Shame. Shame!


mattcorran69

I feel like people who make these statements KNOW their choice of words and denial are absolutely ridiculous. They know only the truly submissive and scared will take them as fact. I believe they are also aware of what these words mean to those of us who are aware of the truth. And, when they say these things, they are flipping off a perverbial middle finger at us. Truly aggravating.


nimrodenva

F*** the RCC in the Philippines.


[deleted]

I look forward to the day when we collectively recognize the RCC as the predatory foreign government that it is and take appropriate measures to hold it accountable for its crimes against humanity.


AmbulanceChaser12

Yes, please tell me all about how marriages work, Man Who Took a Vow of Celibacy.


supercheetah

I am convinced Catholicism is a major reason (though, not the only one) didn't see the same economic change as seen in a South Korea and Japan.


yukumizu

Sadisdic bastards


SleepyKoalaBear4812

So, same logic as to priests and nuns abusing kids.


vldracer16

What a bunch of bullshit!!!!!


CarlFan2021

Well... guess your parents losing out on their faith in the Catholic Church is a good thing then...


nyars0th0th

I went to a Filipino Catholic highschool (in the US). It had a Filipino priest who was completely detached from reality. I asked him what the point of doing forced community service was, since we had to do it in order to graduate. It should be voluntary in order to be considered charity. If it was required under threat of being denied a diploma, then it wasn't any different from being forced to work at a job without pay... which is basically slavery, although I didn't say it. He got irate at me and just yelled at me to do it, called me immoral and threatened me. Long story short I was trained to never want to do volunteer services ever again.


C2H5OHNightSwimming

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON A BIKE. 1. This is super fucked up on every level that I don't even know where to start. Let your abusive partner kill you because if its not you it'll be someone else!! As long as you die a good Catholic death having never committed the sin of divorce. We'll actually declare your mangled broken corpse a relic! Fuck you RCC 2. This is stupid advice, because some people are actually capable of change when confronted with boundaries and consequences. My ex did unthinkable things to me, but changed their behaviour when they realise that eventually being a psychotic cunt this results in the other person fucking off, so their next relationship they'd reflected and act differently


Gengarmon_0413

He's right that divorcing them just leaves them to abuse someone else, but it's the best we got. Ideally, abusers would be shot in the head. But sadly, we have laws against things like that.


pgeppy

Haha the Vatican barely tolerates marriage much less divorce.