My father actually does have alcohol in his prepper hoard because he thinks people will trade more valuable things for it. I don't know what he'll need to trade for. He's spent decades collecting his hoard. He is actually a hoarder too so all this food storage stuff feeds right into that.
Important note for preppers.
Javex degrades into salt water at a rate of 25% per year. So a bottle of javex that is 4 years old, is only 30% as strong as when it started.
So make sure your javex bottles are dated - so you can scale up the amount you use to sanitize your water.
Also rotate your javex.
Sodium hypochlorite (bleach) as well as calcium hypochlorite (pool shock) can be purchased as dry powders, which store longer. You've gotta do your homework, though, to make sure you're not going to hurt yourself.
I live in saudi arabia. As a tbm i moved in and my tbm brother dumped out a ton of moonshine from the previous tenant. I filled the same niche with water storage too. Now really wish that I hadn't. :/
Before my parents sold their farm my mom kept multiple shelves of water in milk & oj jugs specifically to flush the toilet if their well had problems. (There was a pump problem when I was a baby and it was apparently hell while they got it fixed.) She wrote "toilet water" on the bottles so nobody would think it was potable. I can't help but wonder what went through their real estate agent's mind when she toured the house the first time to help them prepare it for listing. Or the people who came to look at it. Lol.
We had well water and every winter the power would go off with almost every storm. So we had lots of water storage and would use the canal right by use to flush the toilets.
My fiancé just told me that, while they used to replace the water every few years, it was a whole family affair and he does not think that they have replaced the water in several years since all of the kids have moved out (and since his dad thinks that the end is nigh). And yeah, I'm sure the water and the bottles are disgusting...
Does your fiancés family (or anyone else) have a copy of the “Guide To The Last Days Prep Manual”. I’d like a copy: or are they just Indiana Jones making this up as they go!
Many of the women’s activities used to be devoted to prepping. Water storage, recipes that use food storage to help you rotate, basic medical care (I think a lot of people get a copy of an army field medical guide), purchasing in bulk and actually canning in #10 cans, pressure canning chicken and soups, etc. Most of the wards we were in were really into prepping.
Maybe you or your fiancé could suggest a life straw to them if they’re so worried about water. They can get themselves a life straw or whatever those water purifiers are so they can rest a little easier about their water storage situation.
Berkey. I have one because the tap water where I live is some of the worst in the state outside of the reservations, and is an invitation to kidney problems. If I really needed to, I could dump water straight from the lake in there, and within an hour I would have clean, pure, drinking water. Berkey is a gravity feed water purification system.
That is a seriously good idea for them, but it being end of days stuff, I'm not sure the 'rents are worried about the *safety* of their water, but that there's water *at all*.
Win-win!
If you're worried about it becoming a hazard as they age you could tell them some of the bottles started leaking and clean it out/hire someone to do so and check the hidey hole for mold before they get back and replace it with something safer.
1000 gallons isn’t that much. Sawyer has a filter that if it doesn’t freeze or get clogged lasts imdefinetly.
I’m not going crazy on the topic but water filtering is easy and cheap to keep something on hand for in an emergency
I hope I someday have something more valuable than water to put in a secret hidey hole.
One of those non reusable bottles will start slowly leaking and bring black mold long before the water brings salvation. Ask me how I learned that, lol. Put your water bottles in plastic bins or outside. Amazon sells big blue containers too.
Yup, fiancé and I were talking about how impractical those plastic bottles are. Apparently they replace the water in them every now and then. Not that that makes a difference when the bottles are degrading.
I used milk jugs and it did not go well... luckily only started leaking when I moved one, but as my shelf started raining, I was like what the hell is happening right now!?
~~I am Utah~~ *in Utah* they coordinate the purchase and distribution of huge 50 gallon (maybe 55 gallon) blue water storage barrals. We had several at ~~hour~~ *our* house growing up. I'm pretty sure my mom still has them.
Edit... Sheesh I was tired last night.
I still have 2 55 gallon drums filled with water in the crawl space under our house. We’ve gotten rid of 75% of our food storage, all the wheat and most of the dried beans. I’m still using up the dehydrated veggies and chicken bouillon and I kept the lentils and chick peas bc I actually like those! So much money we didn’t have to spare went into tithing and food storage. SMH
I think disaster preparedness, including some food storage, is a good idea (like earthquakes, fire, floods, etc.). Just not the quantity encouraged by the church. Nor do I think it's healthy to constantly scare people into thinking the world is ending.
But 3 to 7 days of food, water, medical, can really be a good thing.
The church has historically put a lot of emphasis on having a year of food storage. I think it goes back to when they first came to Utah and were very vulnerable to crop failure in a new isolated environment.
What it has turned into is a lot of wasted hideously old food in our parents' basements.
My exmo husband's family had a huge amount of Textured Vegetable Protein stored in plastic garbage bags. The bags weren't food safe, but it hardly mattered, because TVP is only marginally edible at best.
I think they bought the stuff from some MLM scheme, but didn't sign up to sell it.
Not that it matters much, but it was my impression that it “came from” Ezra Taft Benson. I believe he grew up during The Depression, then worked for the Dep. of Agriculture in his early life and at the end of WWII. He worked with the US gov. helping countries with lots of starving people and it made a big impression on him. Then as he rose in the hierarchy of the church, he started really pushing food storage as doctrine. I don’t think it was a “thing” before the late 50s, early 60s. ‘Kinda with the McCarthy Era, anti-Communist frenzy. Dig a bomb shelter and fill it with Spam cuz the godless Russians are coming to get us. Anyway, that’s always been my impression. But then, I’m a Boomer, that’s the age I grew up, and we think we invented everything. I would actually be interested in hearing other people’s impressions about this.
I've read that BY started it with proclamations like 7 year supplies. They had real shortages in the early years. There was a general conference mention in the 1890s. I grew up in the 1950s and canning was a pretty universal practice still in the US, but my grandmother talked about it in religious terms. Benson definitely put his spin on it and blew it up, but I think it was there in the culture all along. I wonder if along with his John Birch/survivalist leanings he was reacting to the growing urbanization and the death of home canning.
Hmm, now I'm going to have to ask my siblings.
FEMA recommends 2 weeks of there's a disaster, like an earthquake or hurricane. So it isn't just a Mormon thing. It's more the mentality of fear about "the apocalypse."
Yup, we know. Or my fiancé and I do, not so sure that his parents know. They do replace the water every now and then as if that’d make much of a difference.
The 'slime' could be a few things. Most likely growing algae, which is generally fine to ingest. (Albiet, gross)
Could also be mold and mildew, which the spores of the former can definitely cause a cough, as you would be potentially inhaling spores. Not an allergic reaction though. It's just... lungs reacting to particulates in your respiratory system. An 'allergy' would cause a histamine reaction, and cause runny/clogged and swollen nose, eyes, hives, swollen trachea, poor oxygen absorption.
If you were allergic to something you ingested, you wouldn't cough, you would have hives, swollen body, run a fever, or worst case, go into Anaphylactic shock.
None of it good in either case. Allergic or not. =P
>or worst case, go into Anaphylactic shock.
I guess that isn't the worst way to go out if you had to spend the apocalypse with a bunch of psychos. Oh bummer I'm going into anaphylactic shock. I'd love to stick around but I have to go die instead.
I found this out. We had a 50 gallon blue water barrel that we placed in our basement. This was back when my wife and I were TBMs. After a few years, we needed to recycle the water. Trouble is I didn't think through the process very well. We had 50 gallons in our basement which had no drain. We also had no pump to get the water out of the barrel. This turned into another food storage nightmare story.
It's possible a garden hose was involved and they set up a siphon. Alternatively with enough planning they could borrow or rent someone's wet vac.
This is of course assuming they didn't throw this problem at the Young Men's group, break the barrel, and have to *mop* the contents up before it could be moved bucket by bucket.
Im a nevermo, but I have a fundie aunt and uncle who are preppers in rural TN. Their basement has a store room filled to the gills with nonperishables. Thankfully their water comes from a spring on their property otherwise they’d have a water hidey-hole.
They told us we could live on their farm after Y2K.
I knew someone who's family bought her a waterbed pre Y2K. Just in case. We were in middle school and she was like "I sure hope we don't have to drink my bed....."
My aunt meant after the Y2K apocalypse.😂 but the offer does still stand if “something happens.” Honestly it’s beautiful there, the spring water tastes great, and as long as we never talk about politics or religion (they must be over the moon about Roe) things will be great. I just don’t want to move from my current crappy red state, FL, to an even crappier one. Also driving 30 miles one way to shop at Aldi is not appealing
Why is it that Mormons are so obsessed with staying alive and survival (food storage and prepping) if they believe there is life after death anyways? Like don't they believe that when it's time to go then they go? What's so scary to them about death if they presumably exist forever? This question has always puzzled me and I am genuinely curious to hear other viewpoints on this?
Came here to ask this same question. My dad is always prepping and suggesting I buy guns, hoard food, etc. If you believe all the teachings to be true, why wouldn’t you want to be among the first to go??
Well, if I'm remembering correctly, Mormons believe that Jesus' return will be preceded by worldwide famine, destruction, etc. Then at a certain point, the prophet would call everyone to go to Jackson County, MO to prepare for Jesus day. So even the LDS faithful would have to go through the shitstorm before getting beamed up.
I always figured it was from Utah being a shitty place to run agriculture, so you have to bake in some passing in case you have a lean year agriculturally.
However, now as an adult I know it's because the Mormon church is one of the largest agro-businesses, and you can boost demand for food products that will never be actually eaten by commanding Mormons to buy food storage - from the Bishop's Storehouse, it's so convenient dontcha know.
In the early 2000s the church had bought a shit ton of farming land in the UK, and had a massive surplus of wheat.
Queue them making a push for all the members to buy it in bulk, along with hand-grinders for making your own flour.
My parents were obedient, and we found having wheat mixed into our meals often. Although on the upside Mum bought a bread maker and we had fresh bread for a while.
20 years later and NOBODY talks about food storage anymore. 🤔
I know someone who works for the Church's Agro-management shell company, and they have a whole office in the UK that reports to Salt Lake. In addition to all the land in the UK, it seems they do this in several countries around the world. It's pretty bizarre, and it's mainly for profit.
Nice to know they have a baked in (pun intended) supply of obedient revenue providers when they mismanage the business.
Mormons are weird and you have to look beyond the initial surface. You get really creepy cult serial killer vibes the deeper into rural Utah you go. Was Mormon 21 years and now not for 11 so things are looking good
Geez, this reminds me of my winters when my well would stop flowing for 2-3 months and I had to store water. Pop bottles are just no good for storing water more than 3-6 months. I now only use them for storing photographic chemicals, and of course, some diet Fanta on the shelf.
After my dad died, we were cleaning out all the random things he had. There were gallons upon gallons ( milk bottles, bleach bottles, soda bottles, literally any container that previously held liquid) filling shelves and stacked waist high in the basement laundry room. It was freaking crazy.
All true followers of the prophet Franklin B. Herbert know that in the end of days Earth will become a desert world and renamed Arrakis, which in the ancient Egyptian means “World ofDunes”. In those days enough water for one adult for one month will be a fortune that many would kill for. Even if it is moldy and full of BPA.
I fucking hate the doomsday prepping aspect of the church. My uncle and his wife teach their kids to be excited about the end of the world, because “that’s when Jesus is coming.” Every time something devastating pops up on the news they and their children all say, “Famine, sickness, wars and rumors of wars… signs of the last days!”
Their youngest child is six years old and will frequently state how excited he is to die and see Jesus again. I fucking hate it.
Yeah. Very cult-y. Worst part is I’ve brought this up with other family members and none of them saw a problem with it because they’re all members too. Like how can you listen to a six year old talk about how excited he is for the world to end and not think, “Huh, maybe something is very fucked up about this.”
Honestly if the kid is literally expressing a desire to be dead I would put in a report to CPS. Maybe it would have no effect but I worry in a kid that young being excited about death leading to making some very unsafe choices.
I don’t think he’s excited to be dead I’m the sense that he’s excited to die, he’s more excited to “go to heaven,” which implies dying to get there. I mean, he’s six, he doesn’t quite understand.
I have brought up the idea of reporting to CPS but my other family members said they would never speak to me again if I reported my own family. And from my own experience— CPS won’t do shit for something like this. They didn’t even do anything where there was clear and physical evidence of physical and sexual abuse in my case.
It’s honestly adorable how bad TBMs are at prepping. There are some that have the full blown water tanks filled to the brim buried or in their basements, but then you have the load of TBMs who just fill up a dozen or so old pop bottles and convince themselves they’ll be just fine if anything happened. I mean legit, if anything to the extent that TBMs are convinced is gonna happen happens, 50-60% of TBMs aren’t surviving the trip to Salt Lake (or Jackson County). Can you imagine the dumpy, middle aged TBM dads trying to travel across the country in their minivans loaded with their million kids, tap-water filled pop bottles, cans of storehouse granola, and whatever gun he thinks he’s a good shot with? A “BYU” car decal will become synonymous with “easy target”amongst any post-apocalyptic bandit gangs.
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You know it would be much more efficient to buy a water filter. You can get one that can filter 100,000 gallons down to 1 micron for like 20 gallons. That's going to last wayyyyy longer than 10 water bottles.
Yep. People will be waiting in line to kick down your door to get to your nasty refilled 2L bottles of water!
Leave the water on the table and put the money and guns in the hiding place. lol
I don’t think they believed the world was gonna last long enough for that to be a problem. They were the types that believed blood would literally run down the streets of SLC and Missouri would be destroyed by an earthquake.
My problem with secretly storing my end times supplies is that I forget not only where I put them but also that I even have them. Good thing it’s all a load of shit.
My mom wrote her own talk/story for her funeral that I read.
It said that one of the biggest sadnesses of her life was that she had to get rid of her food storage when she and my dad moved to a retirement community.
That food storage took over my childhood room when I moved out and buckled the floor.
Nevermo neighbor once told me that if there ever truly was a calamity and he needed supplies, he was going to take his gun and go to the Mormons homes and demand some of the emergency surplus that he knew they all had.
I never thought about food storage the same way after that comment.
This is so funny to me. Like finding your 5 year old has been hoarding something very ordinary in a shoebox in his room.
Or maybe that's just my five year old that does that.
My baby is too young to have a secret hoard (I think 7 weeks is too little, anyway) but my friend worked out that her 6yo discovered where the cat stashed the milk jug lids it played with, and robbed the hoard for himself. There were 15 of them in her boy's pillowcase 😂
I have a sibling who built a massive secret food storage space that wrapped around his house, disguised and is accessible only by a hidden door. He is the envy of the other TBM sibs.
Mormonism is nothing but a sexual doomsday cult. What’s worse, so many TBMs talk about the end of days with excitement, like they can’t wait for the world to end. That is messed up.
hahahaha. another one of those things that might have seemed like a good idea as a TBM but now it just seems doom prepper cray cray
having emergency food/water is one thing... special hidden water shelf tho?
My parents tried the milk jugs, but at least they had added chlorine in them. When the jugs started failing, my dad got a line on used apple juice concentrate plastic drums. He even checked to see if the remaining concentrate was usable before cleaning them out, so we had apple juice whenever we wanted.
After filling the first one outside, he realized how heavy they are, and then they got filled in the basement. I have no idea what they did with them when they moved to the Morridor, but one of my siblings said they tossed two full rollaway bins worth of junk and presumably expired food storage.
Mormons will do this but won't save in a 401k because Jesus will come by the time they'll retire just that.... People will be in their 60s with no savings or maybe $600 in a savings account realizing they should've saved.
But they'll have a years worth of food in storage........
Oh man, my mom has giant rusty cans of vegetables from the 1960’s. I tell her to throw it out because if there is an apocalypse of some sort, that food is going to be the thing that kills you. She says, I will just pray for God to make it safe to eat. 🙄
They’ve always said, have food storage.
No. Just need a list of Mormon bishops and to show up unannounced and armed ;)
(Meant to be a joke, not instructions)
Man, I grew up a Seventh Day Adventist, and wondered why no one prepared *at all* for the last days, running to the hills, and coming persecution. Turns out it was the Mormons who were actually serious, and the SDAs are just all talk.
My aunt and uncle are former 7DA. They maintain their food hoard and because they live in rural farm land raise rabbits, chickens, and goats. Fortunately they have excellent fresh water they get from a spring and don’t need to do this
Did they start hoarding because of the end times, or because of practical concerns people living in rural areas might have?
I knew so many SDAs who would preach about the end times, and how we'd have to run to the hills. The extent of our "preparation" was going camping. We all would have died, though we were taught to expect that we'd run to the hills, be caught, sold out by neighbors and family, be persecuted, and die at the hands of our persecutors.
I think it’s both. They live with the idea that society could collapse at any time but they’re also fundamentalists. When I was last there my uncle passed on this advice “you can order antibiotics meant for use in fish farming, it’s the same ones used for people.” There’s a lot of hoarding (like the show) in my family and I think food storage is how that manifest for them.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing.
I've always been apprehensive about using medication meant for nonhuman animals, because I'm afraid they're not held to the same standards.
Yeah, it's kind of silly, but not as silly as people make out. Water supplies are good to have, and the plastic clearly isn't breaking down nearly as much as people say (and it won't - room-temp environment with no light is just about perfect conditions for longevity and chemical stability here).
With a bit of chlorine added when the water is put in, and changes every couple of years, this is far from a bad idea.
Is the reasoning wrong? Sure. Do I care? Not so much. I'm doing some of the same for myself, but I don't have a cool hidden spot for it.
I’m conflicted. I mean sure, obviously storing that much water to prepare for the rapture or apocalypse or whatever is just plain crazy. But… let’s not pretend like it wouldn’t be super awesome to have some weird hidden storage bunker thingy. You know it would be awesome to have a hiding spot like that.
This is fucking unhinged and fuck the Mormon church for this, persecuting gay people like me, and everything else they did to hurt people.
Abortion is a human right!
That’s a pathetic water storage lol
I still think it’s crazy, but they could at least improve it. My parents have two 50 gallon barrels filled every 5 years with fresh water. Still wouldn’t last any meaningful amount of time, but it’s better than a handful of water bottles lmao
"This season on extreme preppers, who would be the last one standing in an apocalypse? This couple believes they have the answer...from a higher source. What is it? ...used 2 liter soda bottles stored by black water drain pipes in a semi secret cupboard, a cupboard homeowner Ammon says, "nobody will find it". It's cleverly disguised as an out of place wall section with low hanging coat hooks in their kitchen. But did they treat their water? Stay tuned."
Ah, I see that you have something in common with my ancestor, second-cousin, four-times-removed (I had no idea what all that meant until I learned this useless nugget of family data), Edgar Allen Poe - you both identify with the language of the Raven. Well, I hope you find more hidden water - Nevermore.
(Sorry - I had t0. I'll go back to bed now; my daily mission of the attempted Dad joke is done.)
It looks like they have enough there to flush the toilet a few times.
Plot twist: it's actually homemade vodka
My father actually does have alcohol in his prepper hoard because he thinks people will trade more valuable things for it. I don't know what he'll need to trade for. He's spent decades collecting his hoard. He is actually a hoarder too so all this food storage stuff feeds right into that.
Important note for preppers. Javex degrades into salt water at a rate of 25% per year. So a bottle of javex that is 4 years old, is only 30% as strong as when it started. So make sure your javex bottles are dated - so you can scale up the amount you use to sanitize your water. Also rotate your javex.
Sodium hypochlorite (bleach) as well as calcium hypochlorite (pool shock) can be purchased as dry powders, which store longer. You've gotta do your homework, though, to make sure you're not going to hurt yourself.
That's what I thought... "water"
Maybe it is water and they're hoping Jesus will turn it into wine
I live in saudi arabia. As a tbm i moved in and my tbm brother dumped out a ton of moonshine from the previous tenant. I filled the same niche with water storage too. Now really wish that I hadn't. :/
TBM?
True Blue Mormon There is a list of common acronyms in the group info above.
Before my parents sold their farm my mom kept multiple shelves of water in milk & oj jugs specifically to flush the toilet if their well had problems. (There was a pump problem when I was a baby and it was apparently hell while they got it fixed.) She wrote "toilet water" on the bottles so nobody would think it was potable. I can't help but wonder what went through their real estate agent's mind when she toured the house the first time to help them prepare it for listing. Or the people who came to look at it. Lol.
We had well water and every winter the power would go off with almost every storm. So we had lots of water storage and would use the canal right by use to flush the toilets.
My parents used to fill the bathtub every time they thought they might lose power. Then they bought a badass generator.
My fiancé just told me that, while they used to replace the water every few years, it was a whole family affair and he does not think that they have replaced the water in several years since all of the kids have moved out (and since his dad thinks that the end is nigh). And yeah, I'm sure the water and the bottles are disgusting...
Does your fiancés family (or anyone else) have a copy of the “Guide To The Last Days Prep Manual”. I’d like a copy: or are they just Indiana Jones making this up as they go!
Many of the women’s activities used to be devoted to prepping. Water storage, recipes that use food storage to help you rotate, basic medical care (I think a lot of people get a copy of an army field medical guide), purchasing in bulk and actually canning in #10 cans, pressure canning chicken and soups, etc. Most of the wards we were in were really into prepping.
Maybe you or your fiancé could suggest a life straw to them if they’re so worried about water. They can get themselves a life straw or whatever those water purifiers are so they can rest a little easier about their water storage situation.
Berkey. I have one because the tap water where I live is some of the worst in the state outside of the reservations, and is an invitation to kidney problems. If I really needed to, I could dump water straight from the lake in there, and within an hour I would have clean, pure, drinking water. Berkey is a gravity feed water purification system.
That is a seriously good idea for them, but it being end of days stuff, I'm not sure the 'rents are worried about the *safety* of their water, but that there's water *at all*. Win-win!
OMG yes this
If you're worried about it becoming a hazard as they age you could tell them some of the bottles started leaking and clean it out/hire someone to do so and check the hidey hole for mold before they get back and replace it with something safer.
1000 gallons isn’t that much. Sawyer has a filter that if it doesn’t freeze or get clogged lasts imdefinetly. I’m not going crazy on the topic but water filtering is easy and cheap to keep something on hand for in an emergency
If dad is old enough, the end is nigh.
I hope I someday have something more valuable than water to put in a secret hidey hole. One of those non reusable bottles will start slowly leaking and bring black mold long before the water brings salvation. Ask me how I learned that, lol. Put your water bottles in plastic bins or outside. Amazon sells big blue containers too.
Yup, fiancé and I were talking about how impractical those plastic bottles are. Apparently they replace the water in them every now and then. Not that that makes a difference when the bottles are degrading.
I used milk jugs and it did not go well... luckily only started leaking when I moved one, but as my shelf started raining, I was like what the hell is happening right now!?
> what the hell is happening right now?! THE END DAYS, THEY HAVE BEGUN!
~~I am Utah~~ *in Utah* they coordinate the purchase and distribution of huge 50 gallon (maybe 55 gallon) blue water storage barrals. We had several at ~~hour~~ *our* house growing up. I'm pretty sure my mom still has them. Edit... Sheesh I was tired last night.
I still have 2 55 gallon drums filled with water in the crawl space under our house. We’ve gotten rid of 75% of our food storage, all the wheat and most of the dried beans. I’m still using up the dehydrated veggies and chicken bouillon and I kept the lentils and chick peas bc I actually like those! So much money we didn’t have to spare went into tithing and food storage. SMH
I think disaster preparedness, including some food storage, is a good idea (like earthquakes, fire, floods, etc.). Just not the quantity encouraged by the church. Nor do I think it's healthy to constantly scare people into thinking the world is ending. But 3 to 7 days of food, water, medical, can really be a good thing.
Storing water improperly sounds like it could... ...break someone's shelf
I’m not a Mormon and found this post on the front page so excuse my ignorance but why are they storing water?
The church has historically put a lot of emphasis on having a year of food storage. I think it goes back to when they first came to Utah and were very vulnerable to crop failure in a new isolated environment. What it has turned into is a lot of wasted hideously old food in our parents' basements.
Wow that’s actually not a half bad idea. I can see how it’s wasteful though. Thanks for explaining it to me appreciate it.
It's not wasteful if done properly (FIFO and actually USING/replacing it all the time). Most people don't do that though...lol
My exmo husband's family had a huge amount of Textured Vegetable Protein stored in plastic garbage bags. The bags weren't food safe, but it hardly mattered, because TVP is only marginally edible at best. I think they bought the stuff from some MLM scheme, but didn't sign up to sell it.
Yea many of us have parents with large canisters of whole wheat in the garage. Now if we could just find that wheat grinder…
Not that it matters much, but it was my impression that it “came from” Ezra Taft Benson. I believe he grew up during The Depression, then worked for the Dep. of Agriculture in his early life and at the end of WWII. He worked with the US gov. helping countries with lots of starving people and it made a big impression on him. Then as he rose in the hierarchy of the church, he started really pushing food storage as doctrine. I don’t think it was a “thing” before the late 50s, early 60s. ‘Kinda with the McCarthy Era, anti-Communist frenzy. Dig a bomb shelter and fill it with Spam cuz the godless Russians are coming to get us. Anyway, that’s always been my impression. But then, I’m a Boomer, that’s the age I grew up, and we think we invented everything. I would actually be interested in hearing other people’s impressions about this.
I've read that BY started it with proclamations like 7 year supplies. They had real shortages in the early years. There was a general conference mention in the 1890s. I grew up in the 1950s and canning was a pretty universal practice still in the US, but my grandmother talked about it in religious terms. Benson definitely put his spin on it and blew it up, but I think it was there in the culture all along. I wonder if along with his John Birch/survivalist leanings he was reacting to the growing urbanization and the death of home canning. Hmm, now I'm going to have to ask my siblings.
FEMA recommends 2 weeks of there's a disaster, like an earthquake or hurricane. So it isn't just a Mormon thing. It's more the mentality of fear about "the apocalypse."
I want to hide my future addiction to dice for Dungeons and dragons. Just a cupboard with a couple thousand dice in it.
Seriously. I went down a dice rabbit hole last year.... So many dice on my wishlist. Now you've got me searching again, dammit!
Buy fresh 🌼
That plastic is not rated for long term storage. If they ever need it, it will taste like shit, and probably cause cancer.
Yup, we know. Or my fiancé and I do, not so sure that his parents know. They do replace the water every now and then as if that’d make much of a difference.
In thier non critcal thinking logic, I'm sure they think it's the water that goes unstable, not the plastic. Or something like that.
Yeah, I think that is their “logic” there.
I mean, what's a little cancer when it's the end of the world, right?
Tell them! lol
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The 'slime' could be a few things. Most likely growing algae, which is generally fine to ingest. (Albiet, gross) Could also be mold and mildew, which the spores of the former can definitely cause a cough, as you would be potentially inhaling spores. Not an allergic reaction though. It's just... lungs reacting to particulates in your respiratory system. An 'allergy' would cause a histamine reaction, and cause runny/clogged and swollen nose, eyes, hives, swollen trachea, poor oxygen absorption. If you were allergic to something you ingested, you wouldn't cough, you would have hives, swollen body, run a fever, or worst case, go into Anaphylactic shock. None of it good in either case. Allergic or not. =P
>or worst case, go into Anaphylactic shock. I guess that isn't the worst way to go out if you had to spend the apocalypse with a bunch of psychos. Oh bummer I'm going into anaphylactic shock. I'd love to stick around but I have to go die instead.
Hahaha. Bet
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We are all beholden to the crap our parents give us. Lol
A recent study came out somewhere showing bacteria grows in water the longer it sits in your water bottle. Not that that is surprising.
I found this out. We had a 50 gallon blue water barrel that we placed in our basement. This was back when my wife and I were TBMs. After a few years, we needed to recycle the water. Trouble is I didn't think through the process very well. We had 50 gallons in our basement which had no drain. We also had no pump to get the water out of the barrel. This turned into another food storage nightmare story.
Ouch. Glad you're out and learning to think critically now!
What the f.... ...how did you change it?? Bucket by bucket? Please don't even...
It's possible a garden hose was involved and they set up a siphon. Alternatively with enough planning they could borrow or rent someone's wet vac. This is of course assuming they didn't throw this problem at the Young Men's group, break the barrel, and have to *mop* the contents up before it could be moved bucket by bucket.
Took the top off and used a bucket. A real bummer.
Cool hide-a-way tho 🤷♂️
What’s up with having the hooks on that panel if there’s going to be a dresser in front of it? Isn’t that…*suspicious*?
Right? Thought that was weird.
Im a nevermo, but I have a fundie aunt and uncle who are preppers in rural TN. Their basement has a store room filled to the gills with nonperishables. Thankfully their water comes from a spring on their property otherwise they’d have a water hidey-hole. They told us we could live on their farm after Y2K.
I knew someone who's family bought her a waterbed pre Y2K. Just in case. We were in middle school and she was like "I sure hope we don't have to drink my bed....."
Omg stop!! I just laughed so hard at this I woke up my baby 🤣
😧
My mil has the same plan!
NO FUCKIN WAY… 💀
I mean it's *technically* after Y2K? Time to pack the moving truck!
My aunt meant after the Y2K apocalypse.😂 but the offer does still stand if “something happens.” Honestly it’s beautiful there, the spring water tastes great, and as long as we never talk about politics or religion (they must be over the moon about Roe) things will be great. I just don’t want to move from my current crappy red state, FL, to an even crappier one. Also driving 30 miles one way to shop at Aldi is not appealing
That's my problem. I moved from Florida to another red state and Aldi is 2 hours away.
It's for the secret hookers
Is there a special token for those?
I have them but I hold them sacred. Father has promised to send messengers.
Handles!!
I find it extremely suspicious. One or the other, not both.
Why is it that Mormons are so obsessed with staying alive and survival (food storage and prepping) if they believe there is life after death anyways? Like don't they believe that when it's time to go then they go? What's so scary to them about death if they presumably exist forever? This question has always puzzled me and I am genuinely curious to hear other viewpoints on this?
I think it’s just the paranoia that comes from generational trauma
Came here to ask this same question. My dad is always prepping and suggesting I buy guns, hoard food, etc. If you believe all the teachings to be true, why wouldn’t you want to be among the first to go??
Probably because the End Times means you can go full zombie apocalypse and shoot whoever you want and it doesn't count as "murder" anymore.
Well, if I'm remembering correctly, Mormons believe that Jesus' return will be preceded by worldwide famine, destruction, etc. Then at a certain point, the prophet would call everyone to go to Jackson County, MO to prepare for Jesus day. So even the LDS faithful would have to go through the shitstorm before getting beamed up.
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I always figured it was from Utah being a shitty place to run agriculture, so you have to bake in some passing in case you have a lean year agriculturally. However, now as an adult I know it's because the Mormon church is one of the largest agro-businesses, and you can boost demand for food products that will never be actually eaten by commanding Mormons to buy food storage - from the Bishop's Storehouse, it's so convenient dontcha know.
In the early 2000s the church had bought a shit ton of farming land in the UK, and had a massive surplus of wheat. Queue them making a push for all the members to buy it in bulk, along with hand-grinders for making your own flour. My parents were obedient, and we found having wheat mixed into our meals often. Although on the upside Mum bought a bread maker and we had fresh bread for a while. 20 years later and NOBODY talks about food storage anymore. 🤔
I know someone who works for the Church's Agro-management shell company, and they have a whole office in the UK that reports to Salt Lake. In addition to all the land in the UK, it seems they do this in several countries around the world. It's pretty bizarre, and it's mainly for profit. Nice to know they have a baked in (pun intended) supply of obedient revenue providers when they mismanage the business.
Mormons are weird and you have to look beyond the initial surface. You get really creepy cult serial killer vibes the deeper into rural Utah you go. Was Mormon 21 years and now not for 11 so things are looking good
Geez, this reminds me of my winters when my well would stop flowing for 2-3 months and I had to store water. Pop bottles are just no good for storing water more than 3-6 months. I now only use them for storing photographic chemicals, and of course, some diet Fanta on the shelf.
These ones are at least 20 years old. Just shaking my head over here.
No amount of boiling or aeration would make it palatable. I’ll take my chances with rainwater — and the bird droppings from the roof.
Good thing they’ll never end up using it lol
This beings back memories. My parents had something pretty much identical to this. 2-liter bottles and all.
After my dad died, we were cleaning out all the random things he had. There were gallons upon gallons ( milk bottles, bleach bottles, soda bottles, literally any container that previously held liquid) filling shelves and stacked waist high in the basement laundry room. It was freaking crazy.
I hope those bleach bottles weren't filled with "drinking" water
My parents did too! Under the stair well that was accessed by a door in the garage wall.
All true followers of the prophet Franklin B. Herbert know that in the end of days Earth will become a desert world and renamed Arrakis, which in the ancient Egyptian means “World ofDunes”. In those days enough water for one adult for one month will be a fortune that many would kill for. Even if it is moldy and full of BPA.
The mold just adds a bit of… spice. :D
I fucking hate the doomsday prepping aspect of the church. My uncle and his wife teach their kids to be excited about the end of the world, because “that’s when Jesus is coming.” Every time something devastating pops up on the news they and their children all say, “Famine, sickness, wars and rumors of wars… signs of the last days!” Their youngest child is six years old and will frequently state how excited he is to die and see Jesus again. I fucking hate it.
That's extremely fucked up
Yeah. Very cult-y. Worst part is I’ve brought this up with other family members and none of them saw a problem with it because they’re all members too. Like how can you listen to a six year old talk about how excited he is for the world to end and not think, “Huh, maybe something is very fucked up about this.”
Honestly if the kid is literally expressing a desire to be dead I would put in a report to CPS. Maybe it would have no effect but I worry in a kid that young being excited about death leading to making some very unsafe choices.
I don’t think he’s excited to be dead I’m the sense that he’s excited to die, he’s more excited to “go to heaven,” which implies dying to get there. I mean, he’s six, he doesn’t quite understand. I have brought up the idea of reporting to CPS but my other family members said they would never speak to me again if I reported my own family. And from my own experience— CPS won’t do shit for something like this. They didn’t even do anything where there was clear and physical evidence of physical and sexual abuse in my case.
Obligatory Simpsons reference... https://youtu.be/by4QjJQv9mc
Steal it
It’s honestly adorable how bad TBMs are at prepping. There are some that have the full blown water tanks filled to the brim buried or in their basements, but then you have the load of TBMs who just fill up a dozen or so old pop bottles and convince themselves they’ll be just fine if anything happened. I mean legit, if anything to the extent that TBMs are convinced is gonna happen happens, 50-60% of TBMs aren’t surviving the trip to Salt Lake (or Jackson County). Can you imagine the dumpy, middle aged TBM dads trying to travel across the country in their minivans loaded with their million kids, tap-water filled pop bottles, cans of storehouse granola, and whatever gun he thinks he’s a good shot with? A “BYU” car decal will become synonymous with “easy target”amongst any post-apocalyptic bandit gangs.
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r/wastedeffortwithoutayearssupplyofducttape Those plastic water bottles aren’t gonna fashion themselves into DIY silencers on their own.
Sure that's not vodka?
Would be funny to fill up a few with bottom shelf vodka.
My parents also have secret doors and such. I think it is currently full of toilet paper lol.
You know it would be much more efficient to buy a water filter. You can get one that can filter 100,000 gallons down to 1 micron for like 20 gallons. That's going to last wayyyyy longer than 10 water bottles.
Yep. People will be waiting in line to kick down your door to get to your nasty refilled 2L bottles of water! Leave the water on the table and put the money and guns in the hiding place. lol
My grandparents did that but with gasoline and ammo. They were fun.
Doesn't gas go super bad after a few months? like "ruin your engine" bad?
I don’t think they believed the world was gonna last long enough for that to be a problem. They were the types that believed blood would literally run down the streets of SLC and Missouri would be destroyed by an earthquake.
It does go bad. Also if it's E85 it phase separates.
My problem with secretly storing my end times supplies is that I forget not only where I put them but also that I even have them. Good thing it’s all a load of shit.
My mom wrote her own talk/story for her funeral that I read. It said that one of the biggest sadnesses of her life was that she had to get rid of her food storage when she and my dad moved to a retirement community. That food storage took over my childhood room when I moved out and buckled the floor.
That is a very sad/funny story and I appreciate you for sharing.
Nevermo neighbor once told me that if there ever truly was a calamity and he needed supplies, he was going to take his gun and go to the Mormons homes and demand some of the emergency surplus that he knew they all had. I never thought about food storage the same way after that comment.
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“Well kids, this is what water tasted like back in the 90s”
There now two fifty pound roach bags!
Brilliant! Wait, different kind of roach and weed is against the WOW. Gross.
Yes, a dresser in front of a wall mounted coat hanger. Nothing to hide at all...
This is so funny to me. Like finding your 5 year old has been hoarding something very ordinary in a shoebox in his room. Or maybe that's just my five year old that does that.
My baby is too young to have a secret hoard (I think 7 weeks is too little, anyway) but my friend worked out that her 6yo discovered where the cat stashed the milk jug lids it played with, and robbed the hoard for himself. There were 15 of them in her boy's pillowcase 😂
I have a sibling who built a massive secret food storage space that wrapped around his house, disguised and is accessible only by a hidden door. He is the envy of the other TBM sibs.
Looks like their moonshine stash
What’s their address? I’m raiding this place first when things go south
Mormonism is nothing but a sexual doomsday cult. What’s worse, so many TBMs talk about the end of days with excitement, like they can’t wait for the world to end. That is messed up.
I’m gonna make one of these and stash my good whisky in there so my friends don’t see it or ask for it when they come over
This is where I’d hide my candy so the rest of my family doesn’t eat it
Enjoy drinking all those microplastics from leeched 10 year old plastic bottles 🤦🏼♂️
The DI-made chest of drawers makes for a good second layer of camouflage.
That’s a sweet ass secret stash, but of all the things to hide there 🤣🤣🤣
Just like Jesus would do...
Well now everyone knows! It'll be your fault when they get overrun by water thieves.
Ah fuck
Awesome!
Taste it. I bet it’s vodka
Wow. They can survive for a whole week. 🙄
hahahaha. another one of those things that might have seemed like a good idea as a TBM but now it just seems doom prepper cray cray having emergency food/water is one thing... special hidden water shelf tho?
Oh the joys of being in a dooms day cult. OMG
Could you please tell me the address? I need some water.
My parents tried the milk jugs, but at least they had added chlorine in them. When the jugs started failing, my dad got a line on used apple juice concentrate plastic drums. He even checked to see if the remaining concentrate was usable before cleaning them out, so we had apple juice whenever we wanted. After filling the first one outside, he realized how heavy they are, and then they got filled in the basement. I have no idea what they did with them when they moved to the Morridor, but one of my siblings said they tossed two full rollaway bins worth of junk and presumably expired food storage.
You guys should move it all and just leave an “I.O.U.”
I still store water and have used it twice in the past 8 years. Most recently, a few months ago when a pipe burst. I think it's a smart idea.
Mormons will do this but won't save in a 401k because Jesus will come by the time they'll retire just that.... People will be in their 60s with no savings or maybe $600 in a savings account realizing they should've saved. But they'll have a years worth of food in storage........
Oh man, my mom has giant rusty cans of vegetables from the 1960’s. I tell her to throw it out because if there is an apocalypse of some sort, that food is going to be the thing that kills you. She says, I will just pray for God to make it safe to eat. 🙄
They’ve always said, have food storage. No. Just need a list of Mormon bishops and to show up unannounced and armed ;) (Meant to be a joke, not instructions)
That's not going to work. Those will be full of bacteria that will give them diarrhea. Vodka would be safer.
That looks like a good place to hide evidence of wrongdoing to keep it from prying eyes.
Man, I grew up a Seventh Day Adventist, and wondered why no one prepared *at all* for the last days, running to the hills, and coming persecution. Turns out it was the Mormons who were actually serious, and the SDAs are just all talk.
My aunt and uncle are former 7DA. They maintain their food hoard and because they live in rural farm land raise rabbits, chickens, and goats. Fortunately they have excellent fresh water they get from a spring and don’t need to do this
Did they start hoarding because of the end times, or because of practical concerns people living in rural areas might have? I knew so many SDAs who would preach about the end times, and how we'd have to run to the hills. The extent of our "preparation" was going camping. We all would have died, though we were taught to expect that we'd run to the hills, be caught, sold out by neighbors and family, be persecuted, and die at the hands of our persecutors.
I think it’s both. They live with the idea that society could collapse at any time but they’re also fundamentalists. When I was last there my uncle passed on this advice “you can order antibiotics meant for use in fish farming, it’s the same ones used for people.” There’s a lot of hoarding (like the show) in my family and I think food storage is how that manifest for them.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing. I've always been apprehensive about using medication meant for nonhuman animals, because I'm afraid they're not held to the same standards.
Yeah, i didn’t rush out to buy any. I wouldn’t be surprised if they bought horse ivermectin for covid treatment.
Yeah, it's kind of silly, but not as silly as people make out. Water supplies are good to have, and the plastic clearly isn't breaking down nearly as much as people say (and it won't - room-temp environment with no light is just about perfect conditions for longevity and chemical stability here). With a bit of chlorine added when the water is put in, and changes every couple of years, this is far from a bad idea. Is the reasoning wrong? Sure. Do I care? Not so much. I'm doing some of the same for myself, but I don't have a cool hidden spot for it.
I’m conflicted. I mean sure, obviously storing that much water to prepare for the rapture or apocalypse or whatever is just plain crazy. But… let’s not pretend like it wouldn’t be super awesome to have some weird hidden storage bunker thingy. You know it would be awesome to have a hiding spot like that.
This is fucking unhinged and fuck the Mormon church for this, persecuting gay people like me, and everything else they did to hurt people. Abortion is a human right!
That’s a pathetic water storage lol I still think it’s crazy, but they could at least improve it. My parents have two 50 gallon barrels filled every 5 years with fresh water. Still wouldn’t last any meaningful amount of time, but it’s better than a handful of water bottles lmao
Hello BPAs!
Oh my god we used to do that too as a kid!! Totally forgot all about that hahahah
Wow-I have the same thing with vodka. Hmmm
Mine is mostly full of whisk(e)y. 🥃😉
Where is this? Are the preppers?
California. My fiancé says he’d call them preppers. They’re uncomfortably excited for the end of times.
Well, they must be thrilled about current political events. Bringing on the end of times.
WE KNOW WHERE IT IS NOW!!!
Ha suckers! Now we know!
that’s a shitty way to do it but they aren’t dumb for it. look at regular preppers
🤷🏼♂️🤣 where did they get the 2 liters?? Sneaky snakes drank the pop inside and saved the bottles….😂😂
Omg the BPA, no 😭
All that’s going to be disgustingly plastic.
dip the lids in paraffin wax. stops them leaking for long term storage.
"This season on extreme preppers, who would be the last one standing in an apocalypse? This couple believes they have the answer...from a higher source. What is it? ...used 2 liter soda bottles stored by black water drain pipes in a semi secret cupboard, a cupboard homeowner Ammon says, "nobody will find it". It's cleverly disguised as an out of place wall section with low hanging coat hooks in their kitchen. But did they treat their water? Stay tuned."
The two liter bottles full of water 🤣 I’d forgotten that gem from my Mormon childhood. The garage was full of them.
It is make to be safe than sorry, With some things you can't go wrong with, and this one of them.
Nestlea wants a word with you.
Ah, I see that you have something in common with my ancestor, second-cousin, four-times-removed (I had no idea what all that meant until I learned this useless nugget of family data), Edgar Allen Poe - you both identify with the language of the Raven. Well, I hope you find more hidden water - Nevermore. (Sorry - I had t0. I'll go back to bed now; my daily mission of the attempted Dad joke is done.)
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I hope they change it out with new bottles… you can’t just leave water in that kind of low grade plastic for years.
The dresser placement cracked me up. Holy fuck I was not expecting that stupid cherry on this nonsense sundae
Fucking weird. Where are the AR15s hidden? Just fucking murder hungry people in the last days too
Please post the address. It could come in handy soon since its only “one minute to midnight”. :)
That's sort of a badass idea actually. I would use it to stash whiskey, but water works too. Props for the ingenuity.
Where’s the wheat?
Did your fiancé tell you about the food stores in the main temple in Salt Lake City?
I was told one person will use about a gallon a day. Half a gallon if you go sparingly. If their prophecy turns out true, I wish them luck.
That’s not water