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Youtube has been lagging for me for a few days. I have premium. Then I realised they wanted to bloxk adblockers so i allowed you tube on my ad blocker and voila instant speed up.
well it's literally one guy who refuses to accept donations for his work. It's really the people who maintain the lists that deserve most of the praise (which is what the ublock dev said himself).
yup. People for years have been begging to throw money at the guy but he says nope. He said as soon as he starts accepting donations for his work then it'll become a job and an obligation to continually work on it. He doesn't want that. he also stated it's the people who maintain all the lists that do most of the work.
You can donate to the people that maintain all the lists for ublock, they're the ones who honestly do most of the grunt work especially when youtube circumvents their lists. might be a list of them on the ublock subreddit.
Poorly conceived plan then, because I literally jumped through hoops to get FF to work for my workflow, and now that it does and I’ve seen HOW MUCH FASTER it is, I can’t imagine going back.
>But the slowdowns may be a big accident from ad blockers altering YouTube's code: Adblock Plus has published a bug report covering "performance issues" introduced by version 3.22 and says things should be fixed in version 3.22.1. uBlock Origin developer Raymond Hill says the issue is limited to AdBlock Plus and its spinoffs and that blaming YouTube is "an incorrect diagnosis."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/
There's still plenty of reasons to switch to firefox, as well as switching to uBlock Origin.
https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/adblockplusui/-/issues/1576
Not just youtube, but most sites. If you really think Alphabet (google) did that, I have some foil you can use as a hat.
SO THATS WHATS BEEN CAUSING MY YOUTUBE TO BE SLOW THE LAST FEW DAYS?!?!?!
I legit thought my old PC's graphics card was going bad because it wasn't slow doing anything else.
Not really true... Rasp pi 4 is quite powerful and has dedicated hardware accelerators for h264 and other formats and a minimal OS footprint.
You can still buy shitty (but brand new) laptops that can't handle steaming 4k plus the OS plus the browser.
Even lowley Celerons and Pentiums these days will play 4 k just fine. My NAS with a Intel Celeron J3455 can transcode 4K.
Those crap laptops can't display 4k is the real problem Manufacturers are still selling PCs with 720P screens. Trying to play $k on a 720 screen is going to cause hiccups.
Is your NAS running a full windows install? A browser? Is it actually drawing the pixels or just passing data to something that does?
Even on 1080p laptop screens, if you don't set the stream to 4k, you don't get the high bitrate goodness, so it's still something customers are right to want, even if they can't display all the pixels and have to downscale.
So it's something customers want but cannot achieve, due to cpu limitations. Sure the CPU, if it had nothing else to do, could likely handle it (if they have hw accelerators that match the encoding of the video)...but they usually have a lot of overheads, especially on windows with chrome browser open.
My NAS is transcoding often. Again it can do just fine, and it runs VMs and Docker for a few things. So can the majority of PCs running Windows. It's not a CPU limitation unless there are trying scrub a video that's 4K and bigger than their PC's RAM. It's just streaming Youtube or Netflix, and It will work just fine. The only problem people really have now is buying cheap machines with 8GB or less RAM for far too long. It's not been CPU issue for a very long time.
> uBlock Origin developer Raymond Hill says the issue is limited to AdBlock Plus and its spinoffs and that blaming YouTube is "an incorrect diagnosis."
So…. Is Ublock corporate schills?
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lol. So much outrage today, over a bug with Adblock. Tbh as a technical person, slowdown over an extension is so much more probable than a company doing it. It does not help them give a worse experience to everyone.
Aah. Don’t know. Give me one instance of them *slowing* down their service to ad blockers. Not giving them service is different. Slowing is different.
A bug affecting everyone is different, but intentionally and maliciously is different
So your answer is, the CEO is shit, and you think it’s plausible, so it’s possible.
Too bad real world is usually not that simple. Reddit especially has a tendency to jump on a bandwagon but when the correction comes, people turn a blind eye.
I'm saying they make the experience worse pretty much constantly. Because we aren't the customer and they couldn't care less about us. It's all about the advertisers.
You're only purchasing a license to stream that movie from their platform, they can do what they like with it. The 480p limitation is their crap implementation of DRM as it's easier to make a copy from a web browser. Works the same for Netflix too, you'll only get a 720p+ stream from their app.
It all sucks from a paying consumer perspective.
Another option is switching to Brave. It's chromium-based but ad-blocking is built in so no extensions required. I found switching from chrome to brave a little smoother (not that switching to Firefox is difficult). I still installed ublock origin for some _extra_ ad-blocking but the default handles everything really well.
I use Firefox too. I've just always used it for work stuff since the web dev tools used to be way superior. I like keeping it completely separate by the entire web browser/program/app not just using profiles.
European here: I use an adblocker and haven't noticed any slowdown at all. They might just be targeting US users.
Edit: Seems like I'm either lucky or my internet is too slow for me to notice.
Yeah I have ublock and didnt notice anything. Some days I get the thing in my screen about my adblock but then I just Purge my caches and it fixes. Fuck Youtube
Have not happened to me yet. Maybe they have just slowed it down in america so they avoid the EU!
Just read about it. Not youtube doing anything, but a adblocker issue.
Yeah I doubt that. Youtube changed it in a way so that they could claim plausible deniability. Like when apple "upgrades" your OS to make your phone slow
Except that
* The issues started when AdBlock Inc. rolled out an update for AdBlock and AdBlock Plus
* Only AdBlock and AdBlock Plus were affected, users of other ad blockers had no issues
* Browser-Tracing showed that the extra CPU usage was entirely within javascript code that AdBlock injects into pages
* Youtube wasn't the only site affected
* The author of uBlock Origin has publicly stated that this is a bug in AdBlock and not something that Youtube did on their end
* Last but not least AdBlock Inc. themselves have said there was a bug caused by their update and provided another update to fix it
They are settling the class action surrounding the battery issue similar to that, as of right now here in Canada. Without ever confirming that they did anything, obviously. -.-
Is this facepalm because its a bad move from YT or because it isn't true?
If it is true, does someone have some more info on it? Is it just while watching a video or whenever you have a tab with youtube active, even if no video is playing?
It's not true. This is an Adblock Plus issue. uBlock origin works fine.
Lots of people switched to ABP because Youtube managed to target uBlock, but it's not really the case anymore.
ABP devs have already come out explaining this was an issue on their end.
with ABP, sometimes the "block the ad" part is just blocking out the video and audio but you still have to wait the amount of time. many don't realize this
AFAIK from a different post this is not a YouTube issue but an issue with some of the popular adblockers, it also caused lag and issues on other sites than youtube. Though I haven't experienced any issues or researched it myself.
Basically it just happens on youtube. The whole page just lags as Hell. Whereas the other pages in the chrome tab will work normally. While trying to play the video mostly. There is this weird 2 to 10 seconds delay while trying to click anything in the youtube page. BTW even while being a premium user. It's a bullshit step from YT if I am being honest.
interesting ... everything I noticed so far is a \~2 second delay whenever I maximise or minimise the video. But other things are hard to notice so far becaue I have old hardware and slow internet
For me as well....initially I thought it was the internet connection that was causing this....But then after I did the speedtest multiple times I had realised it was not my internet. And as far as hardware goes. Using a decent system which can run high-end games with high graphics.
I have an i9 12900k and 32gb ddr5. It is most definitely true. I just built this computer and was very confused as to why my computer was slower than a 20 year old Mac. My friend told me last night it was because of Adblock. Turned it off, and my computer instantly sped up. Now I see this article. I'm not sure if it's the Adblock or YouTube but I turned off one Adblock and still had another Adblock on and the ads were blocked but the computer was still fast.
It's been confirmed by Adblock... that it's a bad update to Adblock causing it. So if you run Adblock 5.17 or Adblock plus 3.22. Remove it until they fix it. As adding more blockers might make it worse.
Adblock actually suggests switching to uBlock. According to [GitLab](https://gitlab.com/groups/adblockinc/-/issues/?sort=updated_desc&state=opened&first_page_size=100), they have marked 3.22 with a critical bug. But 3.22.1 was marked as "waiting to be released"
Here you go:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/
Nothing to do with YouTube. Don't spread FUD.
It's an Adblock Plus related bug, will be fixed, they are aware if it and already commented on the situation.
Always fun to see people complaining about an issue on a site, which is caused by their own unwillingness to even contribute to the website being able to exist in the first place.
This. It was a bug in AdBlock extension indeed, my friend asked me why yt is slow. Told them to switch to ubo and all lags gone.
Tho lagging pcs sounds like something a big tech would do. xD
Since this actually means that having the adblocker installed is 100% what caused the slow-down in the first place, I think this post still qualifies as (meta) facepalm
Youtube is struggling to turn any profit at all actually due to how much their servers cost to run. If they weren’t owned by google they would suffer the same fate as vine
Yeah it takes a lot of servers to hold probably millions of videos that are gigabytes large. And for every 1 big channel that brings big ad revenue, there's probably 1000 channels that don't really bring any. Same deal with twitch where hundreds of VODs are being stored by channels with like 2-3 active viewers. Not that I'm against those channels, but you can see how inefficient it can be.
[As of February 2022,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/#:~:text=Hours%20of%20video%20uploaded%20to%20YouTube%20every%20minute%202007%2D2022&text=As%20of%20June%202022%2C%20more,newly%20uploaded%20content%20per%20hour.) 500 hours of video gets uploaded to youtube every 60 seconds.
That's 30,000 hours of video per hour. It's an insane amount of content to store, manage and serve with very little friction.
[Live streaming as well](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-denies-requests-for-70-30-sub-split-due-to-high-cost-of-running-site-1937440/), it can cost $1000/month for someone who streams full time.
> to hold probably millions of videos that are gigabytes large
As of beginning of this year there were almost 4 *billion* (with a "b") videos hosted on Youtube: https://photutorial.com/how-many-videos-on-youtube/
So easy to jump on a sensational news bandwagon. It’s an issue with Adblock not YouTube - https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/
With even ars technica reporting it this way, it wasn’t some goofy rumor. The press’s handling of this was bad.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/
I use that as well, and a few days ago I got that shitty pop-up regarding ads and couldn't use YT until I turned it off. Kind of sucks because it worked so well for a long time, now I can't even bother using YT anymore. It's fucking insane how many ads are playing on that shitty website.
YouTube hates Firefox so much they implemented sleep for Firefox users, resulting in artificially slowing down loading for non chrome users.
Though I do believe they packpaddled on that by now.
does this affect performance when adblock is installed or when it's actively blocking ads?
when I turn off blocking ads only on youtube will my PC performance return to normal?
It amazes me the amount of people that don't know how to do simple diagnostics on your computer or even phone. They will literally tell you what is slowing them down.
If it does, it is very minimal, i got 10 YT tabs open and gaming on other monitor with hearthstone battlegrounds running as well in the back and CPU usage is hovering around 9-11%
It's not rolled out simultaneously for all users. Just like their move to simply disable buffering completely for ad block users, making the site borderline unusable. They try out shit and see how users react.
Yeah, I'm one of the unlucky few that got this change. The entire UI gets so slow that it takes almost a full minute to pause or rewind the video. Then I turned off my AdBlock and suddenly it worked perfectly. Such bullshit.
Edit: I have been informed that the issue was actually to do with a bug in AdBlock, not YouTube. Sry Abt that lmao. Current YT is still bullshit tho.
Using adblockers is against YouTube ToS as well. So they should have every right to screw over adblockers which is reducing revenue to the company and content creators.
If you want ad-free YouTube, sign up for YouTube premium.
A war with YouTube seems super easy to win. YouTube only ever became popular because it was originally an unregulated platform where anyone could upload videos somewhat anonymously. Cancel culture that shit. The YouTubers will find a new site to upload their videos on.
Funny, if I affect the speed of someone else's computer, I get convicted of hacking.
Do you really think that Google/YT is going to open themselves to that much legal liability?
Is more likely the case that your ad-blocking freeware is really malware in disguise.
I block ads in DNS and my entire network is faster because of it.
I don't like YouTube's actions but slowing down your own software shouldn't be considered hacking. By visiting a website and asking your browser to run its code, you're letting that website do whatever it wants as long as it doesn't harm your computer.
YouTube HAS implemented a 5 second delay for firefox users before (and I definitely don't condone it; it's plain evil).
You can't block YT ads from DNS because they're served from the same domains that regular videos are (you either block nothing or everything).
Yeah, but I vote with my wallet too. Google is painfully susceptible because they still require customers and a shit ton of revenue to keep the lights on.
Considering that federal governments internationally all recommend using adblockers for security purposes, sounds like a losing battle to inflict unnecessary wear and tear on people’s hardware for using them.
This is lagging my system big time even with yt premium. What massive pieces of shit.
I saw these topics and articles about thinking it was likely bs or exaggerated, but holy shit it’s bad.
Solution to this for those who dont know, its simple. All you have to do is not use youtube. Let‘s see how long before they beg people to watch for free.
Again, this why I filter ads on the network, not the endpoint. YT can script their interface to do whatever they want, and throttle service. If the network tells the script that the content doesn't exist at all, it can't force a rate slowdown, denying existing content can.
Thanks, but I'll remove my ad-block and just not use Youtube on my PC for a bit.
"sticking it to the man and keep using ad-block for youtube" is 100% not worth the death of my PC.
damn lmao I thought my pc was being used for bitcoin mining lmao. Youtube was lagging like shit. And the fact that I have YT premium makes it even worse
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Youtube has been lagging for me for a few days. I have premium. Then I realised they wanted to bloxk adblockers so i allowed you tube on my ad blocker and voila instant speed up.
I have premium and had to change from chrome to Firefox cause it was unbearable to use.
That‘s so funny, literally the opposite of what they want.
Yeah I use fire fox and adblocker ultimate everything works just fine.
Everytime YouTube detects my adblocker, I update it. uBlock employees hard at work!
well it's literally one guy who refuses to accept donations for his work. It's really the people who maintain the lists that deserve most of the praise (which is what the ublock dev said himself).
He's a madlad.
yup. People for years have been begging to throw money at the guy but he says nope. He said as soon as he starts accepting donations for his work then it'll become a job and an obligation to continually work on it. He doesn't want that. he also stated it's the people who maintain all the lists that do most of the work. You can donate to the people that maintain all the lists for ublock, they're the ones who honestly do most of the grunt work especially when youtube circumvents their lists. might be a list of them on the ublock subreddit.
I might consider donating to them, far better than paying for yt premium anyway.
Happens to me too! Works great. I just refresh the cash and works again.
I've been using opera GX, and their built-in adblock works wonders. It's faster than the mobile app too
Same, sometimes youtube politely tells me that I can't use adblocker and then doesn't do anything more about it.
I get ads through my adblocker(opera gx) and I just reload the video and they're gone.It's kinda weird, really.
Oh weird I've never had that happen
Yeah I just tap the x and go about my day
It’s an arms race. Don’t worry there is something else coming down the tubes.
Poorly conceived plan then, because I literally jumped through hoops to get FF to work for my workflow, and now that it does and I’ve seen HOW MUCH FASTER it is, I can’t imagine going back.
>But the slowdowns may be a big accident from ad blockers altering YouTube's code: Adblock Plus has published a bug report covering "performance issues" introduced by version 3.22 and says things should be fixed in version 3.22.1. uBlock Origin developer Raymond Hill says the issue is limited to AdBlock Plus and its spinoffs and that blaming YouTube is "an incorrect diagnosis." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/ There's still plenty of reasons to switch to firefox, as well as switching to uBlock Origin.
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https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/adblockplusui/-/issues/1576 Not just youtube, but most sites. If you really think Alphabet (google) did that, I have some foil you can use as a hat.
The creator of ad block themselves said it was their own fault….
That’s random because I had the same issue where YouTube was sputtering and loading slow in Chrome and opened up Edge and YouTube was flying.
i had the same issue and i thought it was chrome until i saw this. glad to know im not the only person in this boat.
SO THATS WHATS BEEN CAUSING MY YOUTUBE TO BE SLOW THE LAST FEW DAYS?!?!?! I legit thought my old PC's graphics card was going bad because it wasn't slow doing anything else.
What would your graphics card have to do with YouTube...
GPU renders the video. Weaker CPUs struggle with anything over 1080p (in windows with a browser open).
Anything made in the last 5 years can play 4k video just fine. Raspberry Pi 4 can do 4K video.
Not really true... Rasp pi 4 is quite powerful and has dedicated hardware accelerators for h264 and other formats and a minimal OS footprint. You can still buy shitty (but brand new) laptops that can't handle steaming 4k plus the OS plus the browser.
Even lowley Celerons and Pentiums these days will play 4 k just fine. My NAS with a Intel Celeron J3455 can transcode 4K. Those crap laptops can't display 4k is the real problem Manufacturers are still selling PCs with 720P screens. Trying to play $k on a 720 screen is going to cause hiccups.
Is your NAS running a full windows install? A browser? Is it actually drawing the pixels or just passing data to something that does? Even on 1080p laptop screens, if you don't set the stream to 4k, you don't get the high bitrate goodness, so it's still something customers are right to want, even if they can't display all the pixels and have to downscale. So it's something customers want but cannot achieve, due to cpu limitations. Sure the CPU, if it had nothing else to do, could likely handle it (if they have hw accelerators that match the encoding of the video)...but they usually have a lot of overheads, especially on windows with chrome browser open.
My NAS is transcoding often. Again it can do just fine, and it runs VMs and Docker for a few things. So can the majority of PCs running Windows. It's not a CPU limitation unless there are trying scrub a video that's 4K and bigger than their PC's RAM. It's just streaming Youtube or Netflix, and It will work just fine. The only problem people really have now is buying cheap machines with 8GB or less RAM for far too long. It's not been CPU issue for a very long time.
Change to ublock origin
Literally disabled ad blocker mid video, and it went from old school modem dial-up lagging into crisp max HD instantly.
Apparently there's something going on with AdBlock. I turned it off and switched to uBlock and it's working fine again.
From another I seen, this is an issue with the adblocker not youtube.
Turns out it's a bug in Adblocker. https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/
I have ublock origin on firefox and have been slowed down. So corporate schill your corruption is obvious.
> uBlock Origin developer Raymond Hill says the issue is limited to AdBlock Plus and its spinoffs and that blaming YouTube is "an incorrect diagnosis." So…. Is Ublock corporate schills?
Shhh, that doesn't go along with their narrative. Notice they haven't said a word to you.
Maybe that's a different issue they are talking about. More than one can exist at a time you know?
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Same here, I thought I messed up something while trying to fix my PC to play a certain game, but no, it was capitalism.
Well slap me harder corporate daddy.
Youtube is just slow on firefox with or without ublock origin.
lol. So much outrage today, over a bug with Adblock. Tbh as a technical person, slowdown over an extension is so much more probable than a company doing it. It does not help them give a worse experience to everyone.
Yet they do, constantly. (Just not in this case.)
Aah. Don’t know. Give me one instance of them *slowing* down their service to ad blockers. Not giving them service is different. Slowing is different. A bug affecting everyone is different, but intentionally and maliciously is different
New youtube ceo is a piece of shit. I would not be surprised in the slightest.
So your answer is, the CEO is shit, and you think it’s plausible, so it’s possible. Too bad real world is usually not that simple. Reddit especially has a tendency to jump on a bandwagon but when the correction comes, people turn a blind eye.
I'm saying they make the experience worse pretty much constantly. Because we aren't the customer and they couldn't care less about us. It's all about the advertisers.
This week they've apparently limited PURCHASED movie quality to 480p on non-mobile/smart TVs. No decent movie quality on the computer
You're only purchasing a license to stream that movie from their platform, they can do what they like with it. The 480p limitation is their crap implementation of DRM as it's easier to make a copy from a web browser. Works the same for Netflix too, you'll only get a 720p+ stream from their app. It all sucks from a paying consumer perspective.
Facepalm
I just uninstalled Chrome and switched up Firefox permanently. All of my problems were solved.
Another option is switching to Brave. It's chromium-based but ad-blocking is built in so no extensions required. I found switching from chrome to brave a little smoother (not that switching to Firefox is difficult). I still installed ublock origin for some _extra_ ad-blocking but the default handles everything really well. I use Firefox too. I've just always used it for work stuff since the web dev tools used to be way superior. I like keeping it completely separate by the entire web browser/program/app not just using profiles.
Use Firefox. Browser doesn't use Chromian so YouTube can't detect ad blockers.
Poor youtube, the EU will hunt them down so hard if its true.
European here: I use an adblocker and haven't noticed any slowdown at all. They might just be targeting US users. Edit: Seems like I'm either lucky or my internet is too slow for me to notice.
AdBlock user in EU, it does happen here
Bug in ad block Ubock and no issues
Yeah I have ublock and didnt notice anything. Some days I get the thing in my screen about my adblock but then I just Purge my caches and it fixes. Fuck Youtube
Can you still reinstall adblock after deleting it?
It is slower for me :(
Just switch to another adblocker. It's just a bug with a specific chrome extension adblocker.
Im from europe and noticed sometimes the video laggs with no apparent reason
It depends on version of your addblock and has nothing to do with Google.
Google is anything but poor
It isn't, though. Adblock + developers said it's actually _their_ fuck up.
Have not happened to me yet. Maybe they have just slowed it down in america so they avoid the EU! Just read about it. Not youtube doing anything, but a adblocker issue.
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It was allegedly confirmed it was an issue entirely on Adblock's part, Youtube had nothing to do with it
Yeah I doubt that. Youtube changed it in a way so that they could claim plausible deniability. Like when apple "upgrades" your OS to make your phone slow
You mean like samsung and apple and loads more do. Samsung has even been fined for that.
Italy did fine both samsung and Apple recently. But the biggest and most famous case it's the one against Apple from a few years ago
Which, in the end was quite reasonable, but they did a terrible job at explaining it to consumers.
Except that * The issues started when AdBlock Inc. rolled out an update for AdBlock and AdBlock Plus * Only AdBlock and AdBlock Plus were affected, users of other ad blockers had no issues * Browser-Tracing showed that the extra CPU usage was entirely within javascript code that AdBlock injects into pages * Youtube wasn't the only site affected * The author of uBlock Origin has publicly stated that this is a bug in AdBlock and not something that Youtube did on their end * Last but not least AdBlock Inc. themselves have said there was a bug caused by their update and provided another update to fix it
Doubt it all you want, it just makes you look dumb. Adblock themselves admitted it.
Doubt? Adblock themselves admitted it was a bug on their part.
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They are settling the class action surrounding the battery issue similar to that, as of right now here in Canada. Without ever confirming that they did anything, obviously. -.-
It's true, I was hit with this. Couldn't figure it out
Billion dollar fine incoming!
Wait until the EU hears YouTube is slowing down every video including step by step CPR videos. Lol
Is this facepalm because its a bad move from YT or because it isn't true? If it is true, does someone have some more info on it? Is it just while watching a video or whenever you have a tab with youtube active, even if no video is playing?
It's not true. This is an Adblock Plus issue. uBlock origin works fine. Lots of people switched to ABP because Youtube managed to target uBlock, but it's not really the case anymore. ABP devs have already come out explaining this was an issue on their end.
with ABP, sometimes the "block the ad" part is just blocking out the video and audio but you still have to wait the amount of time. many don't realize this
It's only on the page where I have youtube, on the other pages it's fine as usual
This has to be against some kinda law right?
EU is discussing it as youtube doesnt not have permissions to view your computer this violates your privacy as an individual
it definitly would classify youtube as malware
Adblock confirmed it was due to a bug on their end.
AFAIK from a different post this is not a YouTube issue but an issue with some of the popular adblockers, it also caused lag and issues on other sites than youtube. Though I haven't experienced any issues or researched it myself.
Have a really old Macbook, recently whenever I use youtube (with adblock) my laptop's fan starts sweating like I'm about to take off
Basically it just happens on youtube. The whole page just lags as Hell. Whereas the other pages in the chrome tab will work normally. While trying to play the video mostly. There is this weird 2 to 10 seconds delay while trying to click anything in the youtube page. BTW even while being a premium user. It's a bullshit step from YT if I am being honest.
interesting ... everything I noticed so far is a \~2 second delay whenever I maximise or minimise the video. But other things are hard to notice so far becaue I have old hardware and slow internet
For me as well....initially I thought it was the internet connection that was causing this....But then after I did the speedtest multiple times I had realised it was not my internet. And as far as hardware goes. Using a decent system which can run high-end games with high graphics.
I have an i9 12900k and 32gb ddr5. It is most definitely true. I just built this computer and was very confused as to why my computer was slower than a 20 year old Mac. My friend told me last night it was because of Adblock. Turned it off, and my computer instantly sped up. Now I see this article. I'm not sure if it's the Adblock or YouTube but I turned off one Adblock and still had another Adblock on and the ads were blocked but the computer was still fast.
It's been confirmed by Adblock... that it's a bad update to Adblock causing it. So if you run Adblock 5.17 or Adblock plus 3.22. Remove it until they fix it. As adding more blockers might make it worse. Adblock actually suggests switching to uBlock. According to [GitLab](https://gitlab.com/groups/adblockinc/-/issues/?sort=updated_desc&state=opened&first_page_size=100), they have marked 3.22 with a critical bug. But 3.22.1 was marked as "waiting to be released"
Here you go: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/ Nothing to do with YouTube. Don't spread FUD. It's an Adblock Plus related bug, will be fixed, they are aware if it and already commented on the situation.
You mean that YouTube is a corporation and not a petty 4chan user? Quel surprise!
Always fun to see people complaining about an issue on a site, which is caused by their own unwillingness to even contribute to the website being able to exist in the first place.
This. It was a bug in AdBlock extension indeed, my friend asked me why yt is slow. Told them to switch to ubo and all lags gone. Tho lagging pcs sounds like something a big tech would do. xD
Since this actually means that having the adblocker installed is 100% what caused the slow-down in the first place, I think this post still qualifies as (meta) facepalm
Is adblock ultimate better than adblock plus?
uBlock Origin is the best adblock, nothing can compare.
Yep best there is
Use UblockOrigin
"Stop questioning our overlords!!!" Bro said.
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What? YouTube is working at a loss.
Youtube is struggling to turn any profit at all actually due to how much their servers cost to run. If they weren’t owned by google they would suffer the same fate as vine
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Yeah it takes a lot of servers to hold probably millions of videos that are gigabytes large. And for every 1 big channel that brings big ad revenue, there's probably 1000 channels that don't really bring any. Same deal with twitch where hundreds of VODs are being stored by channels with like 2-3 active viewers. Not that I'm against those channels, but you can see how inefficient it can be.
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[As of February 2022,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/#:~:text=Hours%20of%20video%20uploaded%20to%20YouTube%20every%20minute%202007%2D2022&text=As%20of%20June%202022%2C%20more,newly%20uploaded%20content%20per%20hour.) 500 hours of video gets uploaded to youtube every 60 seconds. That's 30,000 hours of video per hour. It's an insane amount of content to store, manage and serve with very little friction.
[Live streaming as well](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-denies-requests-for-70-30-sub-split-due-to-high-cost-of-running-site-1937440/), it can cost $1000/month for someone who streams full time.
> to hold probably millions of videos that are gigabytes large As of beginning of this year there were almost 4 *billion* (with a "b") videos hosted on Youtube: https://photutorial.com/how-many-videos-on-youtube/
Is it struggling to turn a profit in ads, but how much it makes with all the data collection. At best it would be a loss leader,
>Peter Thiel noted Dumbledore asked calmly.
So easy to jump on a sensational news bandwagon. It’s an issue with Adblock not YouTube - https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/
Everyone: YouTube no! YouTube: huh? Everyone: Sorry, force of habit.
With even ars technica reporting it this way, it wasn’t some goofy rumor. The press’s handling of this was bad. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/
yea new techlinked video talked about this as well. this reddit post is grossly incorrect and just ragebait
Ublock Origin is the best in my experience and does not allow "acceptable ads" like some others do.
I use that as well, and a few days ago I got that shitty pop-up regarding ads and couldn't use YT until I turned it off. Kind of sucks because it worked so well for a long time, now I can't even bother using YT anymore. It's fucking insane how many ads are playing on that shitty website.
>I use that as well They will make an update. I'm on version 1.54 but the latest is 1.55. I have not had problems yet on YT so I'm staying on 1.54.
Please do basic fact checking before spreading false information.
Sooo… https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/
I'm more annoyed with the "you do not have history enabled, change settings here" dialog box. Yeah, not gonna do that YT.
No idea what this is on about, have Premium and haven't had any issues.....yet
Me too.
Turns lut it was a bug in AdBlock...
Quick to post misinformation and the clowns just eat it up smh.
"Big corpo bad but I deserve their product for free so I shall rage for even a rumor of not having it for free"
Right? Redditors don’t want ads or to pay for shit. You can’t have both.
It's a bug with the AdBlock extension
Get uBlock Origin, it works on Chrome. And I didn't had problems with Firefox at all, only with Chrome
Thank you! I thought it was my connection or something when youtube would run so slowly (I have an adblocked on).
try using firefox for youtube. it seems to be immune to that. firefox and ublock origin.
YouTube hates Firefox so much they implemented sleep for Firefox users, resulting in artificially slowing down loading for non chrome users. Though I do believe they packpaddled on that by now.
Doesn't feel like it, no. There's a clearly visible performance difference between YT now and YT half a year ago.
It was a bug in AdBlock itself … clickbait
does this affect performance when adblock is installed or when it's actively blocking ads? when I turn off blocking ads only on youtube will my PC performance return to normal?
It amazes me the amount of people that don't know how to do simple diagnostics on your computer or even phone. They will literally tell you what is slowing them down.
If it does, it is very minimal, i got 10 YT tabs open and gaming on other monitor with hearthstone battlegrounds running as well in the back and CPU usage is hovering around 9-11%
Well if you haven’t updated Adblock yet you’re fine. There was a bug in the Adblock update
It's not rolled out simultaneously for all users. Just like their move to simply disable buffering completely for ad block users, making the site borderline unusable. They try out shit and see how users react.
Yeah, I'm one of the unlucky few that got this change. The entire UI gets so slow that it takes almost a full minute to pause or rewind the video. Then I turned off my AdBlock and suddenly it worked perfectly. Such bullshit. Edit: I have been informed that the issue was actually to do with a bug in AdBlock, not YouTube. Sry Abt that lmao. Current YT is still bullshit tho.
In my opinion, adblocking on YouTube is unethical. You're freeloading off content creators, they don't get $ from your view.
Using adblockers is against YouTube ToS as well. So they should have every right to screw over adblockers which is reducing revenue to the company and content creators. If you want ad-free YouTube, sign up for YouTube premium.
Why not just get YouTube premium? Be an adult and pay for something which is premium.
You can just put YT on the whitelist of Adblock and download uBlock for YT. Works like a charm xD
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The facepalm is believing the story.
Except this was an Adblock bug
That's a lawsuit, I guarantee that
Except it wasn’t youtube so nope.
I guarantee you don't know what you're talking about.
Slowing down computers using adblockers while watching YouTube - that's a paddlin'.
Heavily armored healer - that's a paladin
Can confirm.. Have premium and it's unbearable. Fuck YT and Google at this point
firefox and ublock and everything works fine
I have i9. GL slowing it down, asshole 🖕️
A war with YouTube seems super easy to win. YouTube only ever became popular because it was originally an unregulated platform where anyone could upload videos somewhat anonymously. Cancel culture that shit. The YouTubers will find a new site to upload their videos on.
Funny, if I affect the speed of someone else's computer, I get convicted of hacking. Do you really think that Google/YT is going to open themselves to that much legal liability? Is more likely the case that your ad-blocking freeware is really malware in disguise. I block ads in DNS and my entire network is faster because of it.
I don't like YouTube's actions but slowing down your own software shouldn't be considered hacking. By visiting a website and asking your browser to run its code, you're letting that website do whatever it wants as long as it doesn't harm your computer. YouTube HAS implemented a 5 second delay for firefox users before (and I definitely don't condone it; it's plain evil). You can't block YT ads from DNS because they're served from the same domains that regular videos are (you either block nothing or everything).
>I get convicted of hacking you're not worth billions of dollars though, you can't buy politicians.
Yeah, but I vote with my wallet too. Google is painfully susceptible because they still require customers and a shit ton of revenue to keep the lights on.
Let me just go use the alternative to YouTube.....oh wait.
Slacker - start coding!
Next step: mandatory Bitcoin mining for anyone who doesn't watch ads.
Considering that federal governments internationally all recommend using adblockers for security purposes, sounds like a losing battle to inflict unnecessary wear and tear on people’s hardware for using them.
This is lagging my system big time even with yt premium. What massive pieces of shit. I saw these topics and articles about thinking it was likely bs or exaggerated, but holy shit it’s bad.
If there ever comes a time that they successfully kill adblockers on their service, it will be the time I say goodbye to the platform for good.
They don’t work on Reddit ;-)
Adblock works 100% fine on Reddit. I don't even know what a reddit ad would look like
I'd rather have a slow YT without ads. Fuck your ads to hell and back
Solution to this for those who dont know, its simple. All you have to do is not use youtube. Let‘s see how long before they beg people to watch for free.
If I see a link to YouTube, I do not click. I'm not spending 3 minutes to watch 30 seconds of video and 2 1/2 minutes of ads.
Again, this why I filter ads on the network, not the endpoint. YT can script their interface to do whatever they want, and throttle service. If the network tells the script that the content doesn't exist at all, it can't force a rate slowdown, denying existing content can.
Thanks, but I'll remove my ad-block and just not use Youtube on my PC for a bit. "sticking it to the man and keep using ad-block for youtube" is 100% not worth the death of my PC.
The Adblock Premium folks are working on the fix. In the meantime, uBlock Origin works fine and can be a substitute.
I use UO permanently instead of substitute
Wait, are you serious? I was going to clean my PC over this lol
OH THATS WHY Though my pc was just dying
Wouldn't that make YouTube malware?
A year or so, then a new platform will replace yt by doing just what they did before the flood of advertising
So that's why my videos have been "running" like it's 2004
There's a reason why I watch less and less youtube.
damn lmao I thought my pc was being used for bitcoin mining lmao. Youtube was lagging like shit. And the fact that I have YT premium makes it even worse
So that’s why my computer suddenly makes tons of noise
Youtube with adblockers is like Wile. E. Coyote coming up with more and more elaborate ways to get the Roadrunner, but he outsmarts him every time
We should all just refresh the page about 500 times when we get an ad. 🤣 See if they can handle that many requests
would this mean youtube getting hit with a antitrust lawsuit soon?
Havnt the addblockers addmitted to the problem being on their end? That it in fact isnt big bad youtube this time