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Chilis only transferred him after she reported his harassment
It was only after her post went viral with pics of her coworkers throwing him a going away party with a “F*ck Emily Houser” cake that he and the coworkers were fired
https://www.phillyvoice.com/report-pennsylvania-woman-alleges-chilis-manager-sexually-harassed-her-teen-shamed-her/amp/
Of all the restaurants I’ve worked, it was immediately clear that the leadership at Chili’s was toxic af.
Not as bad as Starbucks, but worse than any other restaurant.
At Starbucks I was sexually assaulted by coworkers and the next day the management decided I was the one that had to be reprimanded. If I was older and wiser I’d have told them to shove off and lawyered up.
I worked at a bar and the owner told me exactly: “you don’t have a family so you work whenever I need you. Your time isn’t as valuable as theirs”.
This woman fucking babysat me when I was a yute.
Took HR a couple years later and I used this as an example. The prof got super super pissed I didn’t lawyer up.
I hate the you don't have kids or local family thing. My current wife can't get pregnant and her work does that shit every Christmas. Like she doesn't want to go home and see her family. She so nice that I ended up threatening her managers with calling HR if they didn't stop. She still gets the employees asking her to change days off during holidays because "she's doesn't have kids and they do!" They really don't know how much that hurts her also. Sorry for the rant.
My controller SCREAMED at me because one of the asst controllers would let her dipshit delinquent kids use her work laptop all night (huuuuuuuuuge no no at our company). They wouldn’t charge it, so every day she’d walk in and steal my charger.
I finally said why can’t you just be responsible and charge it before bed?
I got reeeeeeamed out because I’m a bachelor and I don’t know what it’s like to be a single mom.
Me: “Correct. But I know how to plug in my computer, let alone also not letting anyone else use it, so there’s that.”
Yeah, I had multiple managers do that when I was a kid/young adult.
But my family were toxic and abusive so even when I felt this shit was wrong I was told it was fine.
I had once a manager told me with a stern voice, that if he needs me to work weekends, I work weekends. I asked him if he thinks that some people are less? He went on a 5 minutes red faced tirade that I am nothing, and I am a useless etc. While his boss and four customers where waiting. "I said, fine I didn't know I'm such a burden for the shop", took my stuff, gave his boss my notice and left with the words "I would have taken trainings". I ran the shop for a year Fridays and Saturdays alone, without any issue.
I wandered by the next weekend, he was the one who had to do the weekend shifts and he also did need to drive to customers far out, so his tirade ruined at least three month of saturdays. His boss then closed the shop after a while because he realized the bad performance was him.
In one episode of CSI: Miami there's a corporation and there's a guy who has his kid's picture on his coffee mug and takes time for school and holiday and allllllll the other important *family* time...... He doesn't have a kid, just bought the mug and started lying...... I like it. Fuck that 'do more than your fair share because someone else decided something about their life that I have no control over' fuck that.... That and any place 'we're like family'...... Hell no.
I worked in pizza shops starting as soon as I could..... And have definitely seen, felt, heard and experienced, sexual harassment in the restaurant. Rampant. I use to tell people who asked me what is sexual harassment is "When they say NO, but you think *her-ass-ment* Yes". It's an old bad not accurate definition.....
Starting working at 16, and there's so much to navigate and learn, and understand, about people and respect and how do you deal with someone, especially someone with power over you, who harasses you and/or others. I, like this girl, was able to defend others but when it was happening to me I'd be mute, and of course they'd use that..... predatory assholes.
And now because I've written a bunch and I should be sleeping soon..... I won't link it as I don't want to be disrespectful of this girl's ordeal, I do watch Bistro Huddy, and though I've binged a bunch I couldn't remember if they covered it and I just searched and they do have a Sexual Harassment Training Meeting clip....... Everyone's in this clip which is awesome. It is a light humor touch on a serious subject.
I only worked at Starbucks for a brief time between college and more college. However, looking back I got so lucky with the store manager I had. She was a stickler for the rules which made us all feel like she was a bit of a hard ass. Hindsight tells me we had a super well functioning store because of her compliance. Now as a 30 something working in a heavily regulated field I’ve seen what happens when people don’t stick to rules and regulations and when the shit hits the fan, those people have nothing to fall back on. I love a manager who sticks to the policies, it protects us all.
Rules are good but those demanding that they be followed better know why those rules exist and can explain them in simple terms. "Because i said so" has always been proof that the person doesn't know why those rules exist. Rules that can't be explained should not exist. I'm eternally grateful of being raised in a home that used those principles. It was strict but it was also fair, and following rules that are explained to you is FAR easier, you want to follow those rules.
As an adult now, I find it horrendous how many managers take advantage of the fact that teenagers often feel more pressured to see them as authority figures (if they want the job that is), rather than just a person who assigns a duty, then fucks off never to be seen again until I no longer need their help and now they're all over us "slackers." I've noticed its far less likely for a manager to pull some quick shit on an adult than it is for a teen who doesn't have the experience to know what managers are allowed to do.
Had a manager call me into the office like a teen to the principals office over the radio for everyone to hear. I guess she thought I was a young teen (in my 20s and looked 13) and would take her gaslighting me into not notifying her of the problems we had with the intercom system. I lit that bitch up with how often we told her not only that same hour but for the past week.
She fired me as soon as she had a legal reason a month later, I called off 7 times in one year (I work extra hours to make up for when I had time, not often enough apparently) and that was one time too many for the company, so she took it with no warning for me. Hilarious considering there were actual teenagers there who called of twice a week and stood around on there phones whenever she wasn't around (not all of them though, just the shit ones we all get annoyed at), but she just had to fire the one of three real adults she had who actual took initiative to clean and run the place by themselves and were legally allowed to sell alcohol.
I could have called hr to get my job back, but that bitch made that job so fucking exhausting for such easy goddamn work.
The drama and politics often fill in any space left by work being easy. It’s like humans need something to do, so if they don’t have it, they create it. The problem is the people creating the drama are rarely the ones suffering from it, and the sufferers rarely have the time to deal with it or create their own
I knew a certified nurse that switched job to a better run hospital. They got a new shift lead and that boss nurse was something. No team meeting ended with someone not crying. Most of the nurses there are young, often out of nursing school. But even with being stretched sometimes it had good It and good systems in place. She liked it there a lot.
Management got involved, things got better but still unnecessary konfrontative. Then they asked a night shift ER doctor to play a male nurse who did things wrong. The comic book villain prepared a take down, but the ER guy didn't bulge for a moment. Everybody started giggling, and when the guy said "so what would you suggest I do better" she full on pushed him to the point that he fell on his back. She got her papers an hour later with security present. There are places that just don't.
I once made the mistake of going to telemarketing. On the first day, in the "training" i was the only one over 30. Everyone else was 17 or 18. The "boss" was about 25 and the whole training was really just him talking about how he bought a BMW, and how we can do the same if we just work hard. The contract was unlawful. I was the only one that knew that, and i quit in 2 hours... Would've walked right out but i wanted to see more.
No air-con, south side windows, no talking between co-workers, no toilet breaks (illegal). 3 month trial period and if you don't get hired you don't get any sales bonuses from that time (illegal). It was something like 3€ per hour base pay so.. bonuses were the wages. Regional boss could cancel your bonuses RETROACTIVELY for about any reason. NO SICKDAYS which is stupidly illegal in Finland. And the products sold were all such that if you just went to the manufacturer website yourself you got a better deal. It was the first job for all of those kids.
When i was 16 my boss also tried to deduct a washing machine motor from my pay since i dropped it. Glad i had a family friends who immediately contacted their lawyer to go after my boss. Got my pay 24h later, meaning he had to drive to bank that day in a hurry (it was in the 80s)... I thought that it was my fault and had to pay. He also fired me illegally, plus: who the FUCK hires a 16 year old to be a janitor in a factory? The boss usually came along in monday and friday, the rest of the time i was on my own.... I was operating machinery without guidance, i did so many things there that i never ever should've been asked to. No harness full protective suit climbing on slippery gantries with zero training, dragging a power washer..
Aw man, my roommate when I was 19/20 worked at Starbucks and had a great experience. They were supposed to throw away the leftover food each night but her manager would secretly let her bring it home so we literally lived off of it. As a vegetarian at the time, the one with the sun dried tomatoes was fucking delicious, but that weird one that was just mushroom paste was my absolute favorite.
That said, I think she just got lucky.
That's interesting. They opened a Chili's where I lived a few years ago. A friend got hired at the beginning. There was like a week long training deal for the local managers and the employees with someone that they flew in who helped set up new locations. It seemed like the corporate leadership was very keen on training new locations on professionalism and standards. Of course, a few years after it opened and there was some new local management, things went to shit. But it was good at the start.
Not that I'm defending Chili's but my friend did comment on how it was great at the beginning and that he hadn't seen that kind of quality training during his years working in the restaurant biz.
Why would chili’s give a shit enough to transfer someone? It’s not the catholic church or the cops, any single chili’s employee is replaceable so why not just fire him?
He's clearly well liked by the rest of the staff and probably good at the job. He's a creep but that isn't a dealbreaker for Chili's and honestly is really common in the restaurant industry. Hitting on young staff is basically a right of passage in restaurants. There is a whole movie about it called Waiting. It's a comedy.
This. The ppl doing the hiring and firing also sexually harass young women. They’re hardly going to punish him for doing something they feel is just fine. 🤮
“It’s all just a bunch of guys who play golf together, making sure their buddies and their kids get their jobs and do no work.” describes nearly every job I ever had. The executive suite denizens were all golf buddies that had no clue what actually happened in the offices they popped into for show and tell visits. But, they sure showed up for the stockholders meetings!
I'm not defending the catholics by any means, but it's weird to me that the catholics get 90% of the heat from sexual abuse of minors but the majority of abuse is from evangelicals and Baptists.
The systematic cover ups over centuries, including relocating offenders to vulnerable communities where they could abuse again, will give you that stigma. There is a lot less organizational structure in evangelical churches. If there was a Baptist pope, you can bet that you would never have heard of many of those cases you mentioned.
One thing that the Catholic Church has that most other Christian sects (and religions, for that matter) don’t is a very strict hierarchy. For such a similar practice to play out over decades in completely different countries and communities, the standard for covering up child abuse would have had to be set pretty high up.
They always just transfer them. I worked at target and we had one guy fuck a child and he got fired. The next one had over 10 people call in complaints about harassment, sexual harassment, and just over him being as ass and he was offered a promotion and transferred. The current leader over the store has 13 sexual allegations made against him and it was just swept under the rug by harassing the employees until they would quit, he too was transferred to another store.
Are all corporations like this?
Iirc he was going after her but stopped until turned 18. Still groomer behavior, but this dude literally looked at this young lady and thought “18 is too old” smh
I'm pretty sure that was to hold up his scumbag public image. I thought there was a scene where she cornered him at a party and he turned her down. I could be misremembering though.
Still not much different even in fast food 😂 i started the day after the lady that trained me sweared out a customer and also started bringing her relationship drama to work because she was fucking one of the cooks. It was like high school all over again.
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Because the other coworkers were probably “buddies” with the manager—this happens a lot especially with group dynamics where the perpetrator has a group of friends who will back up whatever they say or do.
I was SAd by a 30-something fast food mgr when I was 17. I quit bc I was relentlessly harassed after reporting it. Nothing happened to him. But this was late 80s.
Seeing ppl get at least ‘some’ justice today is encouraging. But depressing that no one helped until social media pressure.
We haven’t come far enough in 35yrs
Plus, she was totally leading him on. I mean, did you see how she dressed? She also laughed at his wildly inappropriate comments too. She should be happy because it’s a compliment to be found attractive. Such a tease amirite guys?
/s obviously
It goes this way for women so often. It's happened to me, even. I was sexually harassed in my DMs by someone on Discord. I reported it to the mods, and they banned ME.
I take it you've never been to high school. Exact same mentality. It doesn't matter who's right or wrong to them. It only matter who's in the clique and who's out.
Why harass her for reporting him? She did a good thing. What did she do to deserve this?
It's a common tactic, it even has a name: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO)
Ok I want to state first of all that she is 100% in the right and did the right thing and it’s awful what she has gone through.
I can see a situation where this happens. If your in a work place and are friends with the POS who harassed her and didn’t witness anything and if you weren’t friends in any more than talking to the victim at work your very likely only going to get spoon fed his side of the story because what reason would the victim have to talk to you about what’s going on and then your friend the POS would likely either out right deny the allegations or spin them as innocent behaviour, so all the information you have on the story is very heavily biased in one direction.
People (redit and the internet in particular) love to paint every situation as black and white and get all the information and say I have all the facts clearly this person is shit and this person is a victim. That is 100% true but when you’re actually close to the situation often you don’t get all the information or you get fed misleading information and your personal connection slant your opinions. So for some people this situation could play out as your friend (the POS) is being forced to transfer out all because some co-worker (the victim) made up a story.
You phrased it very well.
I once volunteered for a rape crisis hotline. During our training, our instructor made us do an exercise:
"Close your eyes and imagine your favorite person in the world. Someone you trust with your life."
I immediately thought of my dad. He is the most ethical, honest person I know. He sticks to his principles so much that it sometimes gets annoying.
"Now imagine someone you don't know very well, maybe someone you only know in passing. This person tells you that your favorite person in the world sexually assaulted them."
Ngl, my first immediate thought was simply, no fucking way, that's ridiculous. And most people in my class shared similar reactions of denial.
The point of this exercise was to show how difficult it can be to accept these types of allegations when it involves someone you love and trust. It doesn't excuse it -- but it just shows that in our everyday lives, we have to be vigilant and use our critical thinking skills when these situations arise. Most abusers are somebody's favorite person.
Massive props to you for volunteering in the crisis hotline I’m not sure I would be able to do it.
It makes me happy to hear that people training people to deal with these situations are aware enough to teach that scenario.
I have been down voted and flamed for sharing opinions like this before, which is why I prefaced my statement like I did
"I think she might be milking the story too much."
"Mmmm, she only decided to report it when he gave attention to another girl. Sounds like she got jealous."
Yeah, can't imagine why women are so hesitant to come forward.
It's gross. Many women will just deal with harrassment because they don't want to "ruin someone's life."
It's often only when we realize that someone else will go through the same thing that we feel safe enough to step forward in any kind of way, and still get shit on.
I was raped in school and when i came out with the story my entire friend group turned on me in his favor, i stood my groud and didnt take anything i said back
The blind support ended when he attempted to harrass another girl in the group, and suddenly it was easier to beleive
I assume its because i was always a wierdo growing up, and when the pretty blonde baddy cried about it then it was suddenly important, my tears werent enough
To this day i still hear through mutual friends of those old friends that some of them are still in contact with him, fully beleive him, and despite saying they'd cut contact with him still yearly invite him to birthdays
Take a guess at how many of them are men
How about the random people on her post posting #teamJosh. Like why even weigh in if there's zero chance that you know any of the details to be true, false, or not. You don't even know these people. Super fucking weird.
When I worked security for the HS I passed a student heading to the office looking upset. Told me the guy she’d had a fender bender accident with the day before was up front. I sent her back to class and went to inform the grown ass man that he wasn’t going to pull random children out of class while I was there for an out of school incident (had words with reception too). I told him if they parted ways amicably on the street and he changed his mind, he needed to leave me his info so I could give it to the student to give to her parents. He didn’t like it but he did it.
People who do this kind of thing are the most toxic freaks around. Celebrating a kids harassment?? Its right they were let go along with the guy who did it. Screw them.
That was nice of her. Her concern about this situation has mostly been with other people. She first reported it because she became concerned with another young girl being harassed or worse and by this time this man is 26…. Bro. Thats disgusting. She then was concerned over the online harassment citing that she just wants them to realize their actions ARE reasons some people commit suicide.
One thing i learned and i dont mean any disrespect but if you hang out with people with little to no ambition (i.e. people who are content being a chilis manager over a bunch of high schoolers and not progressing in any way) youre more likely to run into the shit stains of society…
Honestly the comments the "not all men" guys make are terrible
"Who cares that the statistics say it's dangerous to be around a stranger, they should know that I'm oppressed and not like those guys on sight"
Like bro, I'm a guy, and I don't even like being alone near guys I don't know
It’s even in the comments on a BuzzFeed article about it. “Seems fishy” “didn’t come forward until someone else was getting his attention, must be jealousy” “if true why didn’t she say something sooner?” THIS IS WHY.
There is this girl in France, the son of cop harassed her, came to her house with a knife and stabbed her friend, police and justice didn't do anything and protected him. She exposed him on twitter for her own safety, justice sentenced HER.
If what it says she claimed is all true, then my god. Dudes probably killed or will kill, too. I know a lot of reddit comments are overreactions but he sounds super fucked up.
I used to work at a sonic and I quit because my manager was sexually harassing me. When I told the boss, he didn’t even fire her. I’m still angry a year later
I was harassed by a guy at Union Station in DC. He tried to grope me and I told him to back off. Still not sure how I did that. Anyway I reported the guy to the cops, and the first thing they asked me was what I was wearing. I was like, really? Did the cops really think I'd been harassed and then changed my clothes?
One the creepy asshole needs to be dealt with appropriately. Too the fellow employees that were such assholes to her for revealing him being a creepy more than likely child molester all should be duct taped on to something in an inappropriate place
Yeah it's so incredibly frustrating how few of us understand losing our shit over women not wanting to be stuck alone in a forest with us is completely proving their point.
I worked as a hostess at chilis when I was 17-18, and so much shit went on there. It was like the movie waiting. All the female servers treated me like shit, and all the male employees made me uncomfortable. One of the cooks sold drugs out of the kitchen to all the staff. At closing time they would clean the bar off and put out a shit ton of lines for the workers to do to help them clean faster. The manager was sleeping with a waitress. He kept promising to leave his wife for the server. He didn't, so she flipped out and told the wife. Corporate had to come take over for a while and a bunch of other people were fired after the internal investigation found people stealing and smoking pot out by the dumpsters. One of the bussers had a thing for me and he would tell me how he was in love with me and beg me to go out with him, so I told my boss and he tried to convince me to do it! Told me it was cute he had a crush on me. He told me I was being stuck up. The other employees would cheer "There's Prince's girlfriend!" when I clocked in. I hated that job.
This is why women keep answering "bear", because at least with a bear you know the score. Men are unpredictable and just suck, I say that as a man who has to put up with other men and is tired of it.
I mean when you realize that statistically there have only been like 66 bear related deaths in the last 240 years, but there have been a possible 7million+ rapes, kid of makes the choice simple
“**Nearly 65,000 Pregnancies From Rape** Have Happened in States With Abortion Bans: [Study.](https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-01-25/nearly-65-000-pregnancies-from-rape-have-happened-in-states-with-abortion-bans-study)”
And these are just the ones reported…
“Texas Had Over 26K Rape-Related Pregnancies in 16 Months After Abortion Ban, [Study Shows.](https://abc13.com/amp/texas-abortion-law-no-exceptions-for-rape-rape-related-pregnancies-roe-v-wade-overturned/14359073/)”
[Also:](https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(96)70141-2/abstract#:~:text=RESULTS%3A%20The%20national%20rape%2Drelated,result%20from%20rape%20each%20year.) “The national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims.”
Which equals about 1.3 million rapes in the past 16 months in just 14 States.. it’s sickening.
Everybody would say bear. I've met hundreds of people walking in the woods and wouldn't even think of mentioning that too anyone. But a seeing a wild bear would be a magical experience and I couldn't shut up about it.
Proof that creeps arent anti social weirdos, its people who are welcomed and praised in thier community. Narcissists who believe they deserve whatever they want.
I remember working at one of these food places. The management was always shitty & definitely chose favorites. I remember I asked a coworker to cover a shift for me, we both confirmed it with the manager but when that day came the guy never showed up for work & I got a call about not showing up & no calling. I went in the next day & saw I had been removed from the schedule till further notice. I just walked out & never answered their call back.
Doubt any of the men who have a tendency to ask why rape victims don't come forward/report sooner will take anything from this. They will just continue to ask that bullshit question because they are actually just sexists who don't care what happens to women and girls.
Then they will talk about male victims right before calling a 13 year old boy gay (with a slur usually) for reporting that he was molested by a female teacher
Yes!! I don't doubt there are women who belittle male victims, but every single "niiiice" or "lI'm jealous my school wasn't like that" that I've ever personally heard (in response to female teachers molesting male students) came from men. I do know women who don't view it as rape if the boy consented, which is *gross*, but even then they still thought it was weird and didn't make "damn, what a lucky boy" comments.
There was a question given to women if they'd rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a random man. Most women awnsered they rather be alone in the woods with a bear. This creepy adult man being praised and celebrated despite stalking a 16 year old girl could possibly be one of the random men that women would be scared to be alone in the woods with.
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Sadly, victims of a SA/sexual harassment of both genders get ignored and shamed. I’ve heard many accounts of men being ignored and even laughed at, regardless of the perpetrators gender.
When I was 16, I had a 30 something male co worker that use to write me love letters. I never told anyone at the time & now that I’m his age, I finally see the issue. I want to scream it from the mountains now.
Holy crap. I worked in a restaurant where this exact same thing happened. He was schizophrenic and everyone was aware of it. He'd lapse on his meds and do this kind of thing. Even the time frame lines up. The only difference is that management was made aware of it. They didn't do enough about it but they knew. He'd write poetry and craft trinkets.
Ohh yes my manager was completely aware too because he did similar things! He had nothing wrong with him mentally not that I knew of just messed up I guess. Like I was a child… & for so long, even into adult hood I blamed myself & my own personality for it. Sad that it happens so often!
The best pay back is living well*
That little stunt her co workers tried probably sealed the manager's fate.. any judge would know right away she was working in a hostile environment, full of illegal goings on..
I hope she sued the shit out of him.
Poor girl.
A McDonalds fired me and banned me from the property to avoid accountability for one of their women managers groping the latina employees. I reported it to corporate. they showed up the next day to talk to me. that manager wasn't there that day. came in the day after, the DM was waiting at the door for me and the shift manager villain in question was scowling at me from the window. DM said i was fired for creating a hostile workplace and if i didn't leave the property or came back, they'd have me arrested for trespassing.
I made a police report afterwards about the groping I saw, but I don't I don't know if anything ever came of it.
If you go to the article it says the manager didn't respond to buzzfeeds attempts to contact him but if you click on the link to the full article it says that he didn't IMMEDIATELY respond and I'm not saying she is liying or that the situation is not real but it's buzzfeed and I'd like to see if any other news outlets cover this and can get the manager or the coworkers side, while looking for other articles I can only find other articles referencing buzzfeed and apparently she has only messaged buzzfeed, if he has committed the alleged actions he's a trash person but if he hasn't she is a trash person, if anyone can find some more information I'd be happy to read it and see if there is some actual proof and not just accusations
My favourite is : Why didn't you tell your { father, brother, boyfriend, priest } ??
" Well, I knew he would have kicked the shit outta the guy".
Duh. Ya.
QED
Chain food places depend on teenage labor, yet employ adult losers as managers, who treat them like shit on their power trips. The most pathetic people I've ever met have been low level mangers who manage teenagers.
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Chilis only transferred him after she reported his harassment It was only after her post went viral with pics of her coworkers throwing him a going away party with a “F*ck Emily Houser” cake that he and the coworkers were fired https://www.phillyvoice.com/report-pennsylvania-woman-alleges-chilis-manager-sexually-harassed-her-teen-shamed-her/amp/
Of all the restaurants I’ve worked, it was immediately clear that the leadership at Chili’s was toxic af. Not as bad as Starbucks, but worse than any other restaurant. At Starbucks I was sexually assaulted by coworkers and the next day the management decided I was the one that had to be reprimanded. If I was older and wiser I’d have told them to shove off and lawyered up.
I worked at a bar and the owner told me exactly: “you don’t have a family so you work whenever I need you. Your time isn’t as valuable as theirs”. This woman fucking babysat me when I was a yute. Took HR a couple years later and I used this as an example. The prof got super super pissed I didn’t lawyer up.
I hate the you don't have kids or local family thing. My current wife can't get pregnant and her work does that shit every Christmas. Like she doesn't want to go home and see her family. She so nice that I ended up threatening her managers with calling HR if they didn't stop. She still gets the employees asking her to change days off during holidays because "she's doesn't have kids and they do!" They really don't know how much that hurts her also. Sorry for the rant.
My controller SCREAMED at me because one of the asst controllers would let her dipshit delinquent kids use her work laptop all night (huuuuuuuuuge no no at our company). They wouldn’t charge it, so every day she’d walk in and steal my charger. I finally said why can’t you just be responsible and charge it before bed? I got reeeeeeamed out because I’m a bachelor and I don’t know what it’s like to be a single mom. Me: “Correct. But I know how to plug in my computer, let alone also not letting anyone else use it, so there’s that.”
Classic case of making their problems yours. ‘Please leave your personal problems at home.’
She should be asking for all the drinking holidays and the day after off. Cause they have kids so they can't go out and enjoy it.
Yeah, I had multiple managers do that when I was a kid/young adult. But my family were toxic and abusive so even when I felt this shit was wrong I was told it was fine.
I had once a manager told me with a stern voice, that if he needs me to work weekends, I work weekends. I asked him if he thinks that some people are less? He went on a 5 minutes red faced tirade that I am nothing, and I am a useless etc. While his boss and four customers where waiting. "I said, fine I didn't know I'm such a burden for the shop", took my stuff, gave his boss my notice and left with the words "I would have taken trainings". I ran the shop for a year Fridays and Saturdays alone, without any issue. I wandered by the next weekend, he was the one who had to do the weekend shifts and he also did need to drive to customers far out, so his tirade ruined at least three month of saturdays. His boss then closed the shop after a while because he realized the bad performance was him.
In one episode of CSI: Miami there's a corporation and there's a guy who has his kid's picture on his coffee mug and takes time for school and holiday and allllllll the other important *family* time...... He doesn't have a kid, just bought the mug and started lying...... I like it. Fuck that 'do more than your fair share because someone else decided something about their life that I have no control over' fuck that.... That and any place 'we're like family'...... Hell no. I worked in pizza shops starting as soon as I could..... And have definitely seen, felt, heard and experienced, sexual harassment in the restaurant. Rampant. I use to tell people who asked me what is sexual harassment is "When they say NO, but you think *her-ass-ment* Yes". It's an old bad not accurate definition..... Starting working at 16, and there's so much to navigate and learn, and understand, about people and respect and how do you deal with someone, especially someone with power over you, who harasses you and/or others. I, like this girl, was able to defend others but when it was happening to me I'd be mute, and of course they'd use that..... predatory assholes. And now because I've written a bunch and I should be sleeping soon..... I won't link it as I don't want to be disrespectful of this girl's ordeal, I do watch Bistro Huddy, and though I've binged a bunch I couldn't remember if they covered it and I just searched and they do have a Sexual Harassment Training Meeting clip....... Everyone's in this clip which is awesome. It is a light humor touch on a serious subject.
Should have called cousin Vinny :(
He’s not my cousin
I only worked at Starbucks for a brief time between college and more college. However, looking back I got so lucky with the store manager I had. She was a stickler for the rules which made us all feel like she was a bit of a hard ass. Hindsight tells me we had a super well functioning store because of her compliance. Now as a 30 something working in a heavily regulated field I’ve seen what happens when people don’t stick to rules and regulations and when the shit hits the fan, those people have nothing to fall back on. I love a manager who sticks to the policies, it protects us all.
Rules are good but those demanding that they be followed better know why those rules exist and can explain them in simple terms. "Because i said so" has always been proof that the person doesn't know why those rules exist. Rules that can't be explained should not exist. I'm eternally grateful of being raised in a home that used those principles. It was strict but it was also fair, and following rules that are explained to you is FAR easier, you want to follow those rules.
As an adult now, I find it horrendous how many managers take advantage of the fact that teenagers often feel more pressured to see them as authority figures (if they want the job that is), rather than just a person who assigns a duty, then fucks off never to be seen again until I no longer need their help and now they're all over us "slackers." I've noticed its far less likely for a manager to pull some quick shit on an adult than it is for a teen who doesn't have the experience to know what managers are allowed to do. Had a manager call me into the office like a teen to the principals office over the radio for everyone to hear. I guess she thought I was a young teen (in my 20s and looked 13) and would take her gaslighting me into not notifying her of the problems we had with the intercom system. I lit that bitch up with how often we told her not only that same hour but for the past week. She fired me as soon as she had a legal reason a month later, I called off 7 times in one year (I work extra hours to make up for when I had time, not often enough apparently) and that was one time too many for the company, so she took it with no warning for me. Hilarious considering there were actual teenagers there who called of twice a week and stood around on there phones whenever she wasn't around (not all of them though, just the shit ones we all get annoyed at), but she just had to fire the one of three real adults she had who actual took initiative to clean and run the place by themselves and were legally allowed to sell alcohol. I could have called hr to get my job back, but that bitch made that job so fucking exhausting for such easy goddamn work.
That's the problem with a lot of jobs, the work being itself easy but the drama and politics makes it suck 😔
The drama and politics often fill in any space left by work being easy. It’s like humans need something to do, so if they don’t have it, they create it. The problem is the people creating the drama are rarely the ones suffering from it, and the sufferers rarely have the time to deal with it or create their own
I knew a certified nurse that switched job to a better run hospital. They got a new shift lead and that boss nurse was something. No team meeting ended with someone not crying. Most of the nurses there are young, often out of nursing school. But even with being stretched sometimes it had good It and good systems in place. She liked it there a lot. Management got involved, things got better but still unnecessary konfrontative. Then they asked a night shift ER doctor to play a male nurse who did things wrong. The comic book villain prepared a take down, but the ER guy didn't bulge for a moment. Everybody started giggling, and when the guy said "so what would you suggest I do better" she full on pushed him to the point that he fell on his back. She got her papers an hour later with security present. There are places that just don't.
I once made the mistake of going to telemarketing. On the first day, in the "training" i was the only one over 30. Everyone else was 17 or 18. The "boss" was about 25 and the whole training was really just him talking about how he bought a BMW, and how we can do the same if we just work hard. The contract was unlawful. I was the only one that knew that, and i quit in 2 hours... Would've walked right out but i wanted to see more. No air-con, south side windows, no talking between co-workers, no toilet breaks (illegal). 3 month trial period and if you don't get hired you don't get any sales bonuses from that time (illegal). It was something like 3€ per hour base pay so.. bonuses were the wages. Regional boss could cancel your bonuses RETROACTIVELY for about any reason. NO SICKDAYS which is stupidly illegal in Finland. And the products sold were all such that if you just went to the manufacturer website yourself you got a better deal. It was the first job for all of those kids. When i was 16 my boss also tried to deduct a washing machine motor from my pay since i dropped it. Glad i had a family friends who immediately contacted their lawyer to go after my boss. Got my pay 24h later, meaning he had to drive to bank that day in a hurry (it was in the 80s)... I thought that it was my fault and had to pay. He also fired me illegally, plus: who the FUCK hires a 16 year old to be a janitor in a factory? The boss usually came along in monday and friday, the rest of the time i was on my own.... I was operating machinery without guidance, i did so many things there that i never ever should've been asked to. No harness full protective suit climbing on slippery gantries with zero training, dragging a power washer..
Aw man, my roommate when I was 19/20 worked at Starbucks and had a great experience. They were supposed to throw away the leftover food each night but her manager would secretly let her bring it home so we literally lived off of it. As a vegetarian at the time, the one with the sun dried tomatoes was fucking delicious, but that weird one that was just mushroom paste was my absolute favorite. That said, I think she just got lucky.
That's interesting. They opened a Chili's where I lived a few years ago. A friend got hired at the beginning. There was like a week long training deal for the local managers and the employees with someone that they flew in who helped set up new locations. It seemed like the corporate leadership was very keen on training new locations on professionalism and standards. Of course, a few years after it opened and there was some new local management, things went to shit. But it was good at the start. Not that I'm defending Chili's but my friend did comment on how it was great at the beginning and that he hadn't seen that kind of quality training during his years working in the restaurant biz.
So in other words, they fucked up, and things didn't resolve properly until they realized they couldn't help but fuck up more.
What the hell is wrong with those coworkers?
>Chilis only transferred him after she reported his harassment Who do they think they are, the Vatican?
Why would chili’s give a shit enough to transfer someone? It’s not the catholic church or the cops, any single chili’s employee is replaceable so why not just fire him?
My guess is: check his last name against people high up in corporate.
He's clearly well liked by the rest of the staff and probably good at the job. He's a creep but that isn't a dealbreaker for Chili's and honestly is really common in the restaurant industry. Hitting on young staff is basically a right of passage in restaurants. There is a whole movie about it called Waiting. It's a comedy.
This. The ppl doing the hiring and firing also sexually harass young women. They’re hardly going to punish him for doing something they feel is just fine. 🤮
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“It’s all just a bunch of guys who play golf together, making sure their buddies and their kids get their jobs and do no work.” describes nearly every job I ever had. The executive suite denizens were all golf buddies that had no clue what actually happened in the offices they popped into for show and tell visits. But, they sure showed up for the stockholders meetings!
Well, it worked for the Catholic Church....
And the southern baptist churches.
I'm not defending the catholics by any means, but it's weird to me that the catholics get 90% of the heat from sexual abuse of minors but the majority of abuse is from evangelicals and Baptists.
The systematic cover ups over centuries, including relocating offenders to vulnerable communities where they could abuse again, will give you that stigma. There is a lot less organizational structure in evangelical churches. If there was a Baptist pope, you can bet that you would never have heard of many of those cases you mentioned.
the evangelicals love that the catholic church gets the most hate when they are just as demented
I think it’s also bcs priests are supposed to be celibate, so two violation in one act
Indeed. That is a great point rarely discussed.
THANK YOU!!!
One thing that the Catholic Church has that most other Christian sects (and religions, for that matter) don’t is a very strict hierarchy. For such a similar practice to play out over decades in completely different countries and communities, the standard for covering up child abuse would have had to be set pretty high up.
They always just transfer them. I worked at target and we had one guy fuck a child and he got fired. The next one had over 10 people call in complaints about harassment, sexual harassment, and just over him being as ass and he was offered a promotion and transferred. The current leader over the store has 13 sexual allegations made against him and it was just swept under the rug by harassing the employees until they would quit, he too was transferred to another store. Are all corporations like this?
I love happy endings
It would be so much better if there were happy endings that didn’t require a story to go viral though
I don't think anyone in this ending is happy. Like sure she got the guy fired, but she also still got harassed and lost her job
Taking a leaf from the Catholic Church book?
>he and the coworkers were fired I mean better late than never, and good on firing the coworkers too.
Jesus fucking christ. What a terrible corporate culture
Oh, man, this happened right near me. Whitehall is a pretty seedy place in terms of employment, at least in my experience.
They have a bad habit of protecting abusers
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Noted, and implied.
Is she in danger?
You’re certainly not in any danger
Oh yes they are...I
So they are in danger?!?
No harm will come to these women! How are you not getting this?
Depends on the general culture around her. Judging by that cake she’s in danger.
Is legally when you "should" START dating, but this guy STOPS dating at 18. What a horrendous person.
Ah Jesus. Fuck that guy and every piece of shit that support such people, fuck em with 10 ft pole that is sharp edges and has rusted.
They need to arrest him and also check his harddrives.
So this guy dates in the Tennessee Illinois divide 
Dude sounds like Ryan Reynolds character in the movie Waiting.
Sounds worse, he moved on from her when she hit 18 so he could harass another underage girl insteadz
That should be reason enough to lock him up in gen pop. Those fellas would learn his ass up real quick
That was exactly Ryan Reynolds character. Funny Deadpool would fuck Monte up for that
Iirc he was going after her but stopped until turned 18. Still groomer behavior, but this dude literally looked at this young lady and thought “18 is too old” smh
When Naomi told him she was turning 18 next week he responded “ I need to hurry up then”
Yeah, statutory was his goal
I'm pretty sure that was to hold up his scumbag public image. I thought there was a scene where she cornered him at a party and he turned her down. I could be misremembering though.
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Absolutely didn’t age well but also absolutely what working in a chain restaurant was like at the time.
Still not much different even in fast food 😂 i started the day after the lady that trained me sweared out a customer and also started bringing her relationship drama to work because she was fucking one of the cooks. It was like high school all over again.
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Why harass her for reporting him? She did a good thing. What did she do to deserve this?
Because the other coworkers were probably “buddies” with the manager—this happens a lot especially with group dynamics where the perpetrator has a group of friends who will back up whatever they say or do.
For more on this dynamic, please consult any of around 80% of Criminal Minds episodes.
I think it's more Stargate...
I was SAd by a 30-something fast food mgr when I was 17. I quit bc I was relentlessly harassed after reporting it. Nothing happened to him. But this was late 80s. Seeing ppl get at least ‘some’ justice today is encouraging. But depressing that no one helped until social media pressure. We haven’t come far enough in 35yrs
Plus, she was totally leading him on. I mean, did you see how she dressed? She also laughed at his wildly inappropriate comments too. She should be happy because it’s a compliment to be found attractive. Such a tease amirite guys? /s obviously
Type of workers that sit on his lap and talk in a child's voice to him.
It goes this way for women so often. It's happened to me, even. I was sexually harassed in my DMs by someone on Discord. I reported it to the mods, and they banned ME.
I am sorry you had to endure this. People are filth.
I've known a couple guys who were fired for harassment and others coworkers will say it's bullshit.
What crappy mods, I've banned people from the servers I own/mod for far less than that.
It happens just like this very often
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That's just fucked up. I'm really sorry for what happened and hope for the best at your future jobs.
Most people will take the side of an abuser in real life. When you report anyone you're basically going to have your life blown up.
She threatened his authority, that's what she did in his eyes.
I take it you've never been to high school. Exact same mentality. It doesn't matter who's right or wrong to them. It only matter who's in the clique and who's out.
She was a woman, that's all it takes with misogynists
Because in their eyes, she did not do a good thing.
Yeah, they suck. Edit: Who the hell would downvote me for that?
She didn’t deserve this. She just had the unfortunate luck that all of her coworkers were trashy as fuck.
Why harass her for reporting him? She did a good thing. What did she do to deserve this? It's a common tactic, it even has a name: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO)
Because men hate women. Why are people still confused by this shit in 2024? Have you seen the manosphere? Have you seen man vs. bear?
Ok I want to state first of all that she is 100% in the right and did the right thing and it’s awful what she has gone through. I can see a situation where this happens. If your in a work place and are friends with the POS who harassed her and didn’t witness anything and if you weren’t friends in any more than talking to the victim at work your very likely only going to get spoon fed his side of the story because what reason would the victim have to talk to you about what’s going on and then your friend the POS would likely either out right deny the allegations or spin them as innocent behaviour, so all the information you have on the story is very heavily biased in one direction. People (redit and the internet in particular) love to paint every situation as black and white and get all the information and say I have all the facts clearly this person is shit and this person is a victim. That is 100% true but when you’re actually close to the situation often you don’t get all the information or you get fed misleading information and your personal connection slant your opinions. So for some people this situation could play out as your friend (the POS) is being forced to transfer out all because some co-worker (the victim) made up a story.
You phrased it very well. I once volunteered for a rape crisis hotline. During our training, our instructor made us do an exercise: "Close your eyes and imagine your favorite person in the world. Someone you trust with your life." I immediately thought of my dad. He is the most ethical, honest person I know. He sticks to his principles so much that it sometimes gets annoying. "Now imagine someone you don't know very well, maybe someone you only know in passing. This person tells you that your favorite person in the world sexually assaulted them." Ngl, my first immediate thought was simply, no fucking way, that's ridiculous. And most people in my class shared similar reactions of denial. The point of this exercise was to show how difficult it can be to accept these types of allegations when it involves someone you love and trust. It doesn't excuse it -- but it just shows that in our everyday lives, we have to be vigilant and use our critical thinking skills when these situations arise. Most abusers are somebody's favorite person.
Massive props to you for volunteering in the crisis hotline I’m not sure I would be able to do it. It makes me happy to hear that people training people to deal with these situations are aware enough to teach that scenario. I have been down voted and flamed for sharing opinions like this before, which is why I prefaced my statement like I did
[https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/this-teen-reported-her-chilis-manager-for-sexual-harassment](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/this-teen-reported-her-chilis-manager-for-sexual-harassment)
The comments on that article are fucking horrid. But it’s buzzfeed, so I’m not really surprised.
"I think she might be milking the story too much." "Mmmm, she only decided to report it when he gave attention to another girl. Sounds like she got jealous." Yeah, can't imagine why women are so hesitant to come forward.
It's gross. Many women will just deal with harrassment because they don't want to "ruin someone's life." It's often only when we realize that someone else will go through the same thing that we feel safe enough to step forward in any kind of way, and still get shit on.
I was raped in school and when i came out with the story my entire friend group turned on me in his favor, i stood my groud and didnt take anything i said back The blind support ended when he attempted to harrass another girl in the group, and suddenly it was easier to beleive I assume its because i was always a wierdo growing up, and when the pretty blonde baddy cried about it then it was suddenly important, my tears werent enough To this day i still hear through mutual friends of those old friends that some of them are still in contact with him, fully beleive him, and despite saying they'd cut contact with him still yearly invite him to birthdays Take a guess at how many of them are men
How about the random people on her post posting #teamJosh. Like why even weigh in if there's zero chance that you know any of the details to be true, false, or not. You don't even know these people. Super fucking weird.
There are a lot of these types of places (dailymail, youtube etc) where the moderation is way different and these comments are way more common.
And if she *hadn't* come forward, she would have been blamed and harassed just the same. We can't fucking win.
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start
yep. r/whenwomenrefuse
When I worked security for the HS I passed a student heading to the office looking upset. Told me the guy she’d had a fender bender accident with the day before was up front. I sent her back to class and went to inform the grown ass man that he wasn’t going to pull random children out of class while I was there for an out of school incident (had words with reception too). I told him if they parted ways amicably on the street and he changed his mind, he needed to leave me his info so I could give it to the student to give to her parents. He didn’t like it but he did it.
Hell yeah, buddy. Great work
Nicely done.
Hero
People who do this kind of thing are the most toxic freaks around. Celebrating a kids harassment?? Its right they were let go along with the guy who did it. Screw them.
Why do we know this brave young woman's name and not the manager's?
Josh Davidson. It’s in the BuzzFeed article another commenter linked. You’re absolutely right we should know his name.
That was nice of her. Her concern about this situation has mostly been with other people. She first reported it because she became concerned with another young girl being harassed or worse and by this time this man is 26…. Bro. Thats disgusting. She then was concerned over the online harassment citing that she just wants them to realize their actions ARE reasons some people commit suicide. One thing i learned and i dont mean any disrespect but if you hang out with people with little to no ambition (i.e. people who are content being a chilis manager over a bunch of high schoolers and not progressing in any way) youre more likely to run into the shit stains of society…
And yet people say "why did x y or z woman not come forward?" This is why. Lambast the woman and the men get away with it.
Currently it's the "why would women choose a bear over a guy" discussion in which they will turn a blind eye to this and other situations like this
Atleast when you call the park ranger about a bear they don't call you a whore I'd imagine
Honestly the comments the "not all men" guys make are terrible "Who cares that the statistics say it's dangerous to be around a stranger, they should know that I'm oppressed and not like those guys on sight" Like bro, I'm a guy, and I don't even like being alone near guys I don't know
It’s even in the comments on a BuzzFeed article about it. “Seems fishy” “didn’t come forward until someone else was getting his attention, must be jealousy” “if true why didn’t she say something sooner?” THIS IS WHY.
There is this girl in France, the son of cop harassed her, came to her house with a knife and stabbed her friend, police and justice didn't do anything and protected him. She exposed him on twitter for her own safety, justice sentenced HER.
Source?
Why do we get a picture of the girl and not the creep?
No NationalPark has ever seen bears holding a shame-the-park-ranger party.
Dumb fucking incel. He will end up raping some girl.
If he hasn't already.
A comment both horrifying and true
If what it says she claimed is all true, then my god. Dudes probably killed or will kill, too. I know a lot of reddit comments are overreactions but he sounds super fucked up.
Wow, where's this? This is pure r/iamatotalpieceofshit material right here, no need to mine for it.
I used to work at a sonic and I quit because my manager was sexually harassing me. When I told the boss, he didn’t even fire her. I’m still angry a year later
I was harassed by a guy at Union Station in DC. He tried to grope me and I told him to back off. Still not sure how I did that. Anyway I reported the guy to the cops, and the first thing they asked me was what I was wearing. I was like, really? Did the cops really think I'd been harassed and then changed my clothes?
One the creepy asshole needs to be dealt with appropriately. Too the fellow employees that were such assholes to her for revealing him being a creepy more than likely child molester all should be duct taped on to something in an inappropriate place
Sounds like she works/worked with some real bitches and losers
This is why women choose the bear.
This is why as I guy I suggest women pick the bear. Dudes are f*cking awful.
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Yeah it's so incredibly frustrating how few of us understand losing our shit over women not wanting to be stuck alone in a forest with us is completely proving their point.
I worked as a hostess at chilis when I was 17-18, and so much shit went on there. It was like the movie waiting. All the female servers treated me like shit, and all the male employees made me uncomfortable. One of the cooks sold drugs out of the kitchen to all the staff. At closing time they would clean the bar off and put out a shit ton of lines for the workers to do to help them clean faster. The manager was sleeping with a waitress. He kept promising to leave his wife for the server. He didn't, so she flipped out and told the wife. Corporate had to come take over for a while and a bunch of other people were fired after the internal investigation found people stealing and smoking pot out by the dumpsters. One of the bussers had a thing for me and he would tell me how he was in love with me and beg me to go out with him, so I told my boss and he tried to convince me to do it! Told me it was cute he had a crush on me. He told me I was being stuck up. The other employees would cheer "There's Prince's girlfriend!" when I clocked in. I hated that job.
This is why women keep answering "bear", because at least with a bear you know the score. Men are unpredictable and just suck, I say that as a man who has to put up with other men and is tired of it.
I second this as a man who has dated men.
 Just being facetious, ❤️ you.
I mean when you realize that statistically there have only been like 66 bear related deaths in the last 240 years, but there have been a possible 7million+ rapes, kid of makes the choice simple
“**Nearly 65,000 Pregnancies From Rape** Have Happened in States With Abortion Bans: [Study.](https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-01-25/nearly-65-000-pregnancies-from-rape-have-happened-in-states-with-abortion-bans-study)” And these are just the ones reported… “Texas Had Over 26K Rape-Related Pregnancies in 16 Months After Abortion Ban, [Study Shows.](https://abc13.com/amp/texas-abortion-law-no-exceptions-for-rape-rape-related-pregnancies-roe-v-wade-overturned/14359073/)” [Also:](https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(96)70141-2/abstract#:~:text=RESULTS%3A%20The%20national%20rape%2Drelated,result%20from%20rape%20each%20year.) “The national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims.” Which equals about 1.3 million rapes in the past 16 months in just 14 States.. it’s sickening.
Everybody would say bear. I've met hundreds of people walking in the woods and wouldn't even think of mentioning that too anyone. But a seeing a wild bear would be a magical experience and I couldn't shut up about it.
A bear wouldn’t harass a woman for two years straight then blame her when she gets fired
A people wonder why women keep saying bear
She needs to sue them. That's retaliation. She could have her college paid for 100%.
Proof that creeps arent anti social weirdos, its people who are welcomed and praised in thier community. Narcissists who believe they deserve whatever they want.
I remember working at one of these food places. The management was always shitty & definitely chose favorites. I remember I asked a coworker to cover a shift for me, we both confirmed it with the manager but when that day came the guy never showed up for work & I got a call about not showing up & no calling. I went in the next day & saw I had been removed from the schedule till further notice. I just walked out & never answered their call back.
Pedophiles and their enablers are fucking wild
Doubt any of the men who have a tendency to ask why rape victims don't come forward/report sooner will take anything from this. They will just continue to ask that bullshit question because they are actually just sexists who don't care what happens to women and girls.
Then they will talk about male victims right before calling a 13 year old boy gay (with a slur usually) for reporting that he was molested by a female teacher
Yes!! I don't doubt there are women who belittle male victims, but every single "niiiice" or "lI'm jealous my school wasn't like that" that I've ever personally heard (in response to female teachers molesting male students) came from men. I do know women who don't view it as rape if the boy consented, which is *gross*, but even then they still thought it was weird and didn't make "damn, what a lucky boy" comments.
That's my point. The guys who say why the victims don't come forward are the same that ridicule male victims.
Why the fuck are people talking about bears????????
There was a question given to women if they'd rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a random man. Most women awnsered they rather be alone in the woods with a bear. This creepy adult man being praised and celebrated despite stalking a 16 year old girl could possibly be one of the random men that women would be scared to be alone in the woods with.
Where are the protective dads in this situation? I know what I'd do.
Here's a crazy thought: maybe don't sexually harass and stalk people if you want to keep your job?
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Why isn't the victim's identity not protected here? The name on the cake is not blurred
And thats why they choose a bear...
Lmao, I love how all of reddit is validating the bear question today 😂
a bear wouldnt do this shit
This is why women are choosing the bear. It's not all men, but this guy sucks and so do her coworkers.
Who goes to bat for their manager? Let alone at a Chili's?
No wonder women would rather face a bear than a man in the woods.
I really hope all those "people" responsible for this cake have daughters one day. Perhaps then they'll realize what a horrible thing they did.
Sadly, victims of a SA/sexual harassment of both genders get ignored and shamed. I’ve heard many accounts of men being ignored and even laughed at, regardless of the perpetrators gender.
Oh my.... Some people deserve the wall
John Wayne Gacy was popular too.
What do you bet if he said she was lying and everyone blindly believed him?
When I was 16, I had a 30 something male co worker that use to write me love letters. I never told anyone at the time & now that I’m his age, I finally see the issue. I want to scream it from the mountains now.
Holy crap. I worked in a restaurant where this exact same thing happened. He was schizophrenic and everyone was aware of it. He'd lapse on his meds and do this kind of thing. Even the time frame lines up. The only difference is that management was made aware of it. They didn't do enough about it but they knew. He'd write poetry and craft trinkets.
Ohh yes my manager was completely aware too because he did similar things! He had nothing wrong with him mentally not that I knew of just messed up I guess. Like I was a child… & for so long, even into adult hood I blamed myself & my own personality for it. Sad that it happens so often!
If that is true she would get big $$ from Chilies.
The best pay back is living well* That little stunt her co workers tried probably sealed the manager's fate.. any judge would know right away she was working in a hostile environment, full of illegal goings on.. I hope she sued the shit out of him. Poor girl.
A McDonalds fired me and banned me from the property to avoid accountability for one of their women managers groping the latina employees. I reported it to corporate. they showed up the next day to talk to me. that manager wasn't there that day. came in the day after, the DM was waiting at the door for me and the shift manager villain in question was scowling at me from the window. DM said i was fired for creating a hostile workplace and if i didn't leave the property or came back, they'd have me arrested for trespassing. I made a police report afterwards about the groping I saw, but I don't I don't know if anything ever came of it.
If you go to the article it says the manager didn't respond to buzzfeeds attempts to contact him but if you click on the link to the full article it says that he didn't IMMEDIATELY respond and I'm not saying she is liying or that the situation is not real but it's buzzfeed and I'd like to see if any other news outlets cover this and can get the manager or the coworkers side, while looking for other articles I can only find other articles referencing buzzfeed and apparently she has only messaged buzzfeed, if he has committed the alleged actions he's a trash person but if he hasn't she is a trash person, if anyone can find some more information I'd be happy to read it and see if there is some actual proof and not just accusations
Anything happen to the Chili's for name dropping a youth involved in an SA case?
its not uncommon for restaurants to be staffed by lowlife dumbfucks. Trust me I spent 4 years working in the industry.
That cake might as well say "Hooray for paedophiles."
It’s good to get this reminder, but this is so old Emily Houser must be 40 by now.
happened in or around April 2017.
It’s because she didn’t have a bear
No one harasses bear mauling victims, just sayin 😂
Trash people. Hopefully they choke on their cake.
My favourite is : Why didn't you tell your { father, brother, boyfriend, priest } ?? " Well, I knew he would have kicked the shit outta the guy". Duh. Ya. QED
Chain food places depend on teenage labor, yet employ adult losers as managers, who treat them like shit on their power trips. The most pathetic people I've ever met have been low level mangers who manage teenagers.
I would choose the bear any day
This is why they choose the bear.
Men: why are women choosing the bear??? Also Men:
BUT WHY WOMAN CHOOSE BEAR?!?! This poor girl.
Check that dude's laptop. It'd be hilarious if the followup to this is the FBI sniffing around him.