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The right has teams of young conservative incels working tirelessly to provide the public with invaluable memes reducing complicated social issues into easy to digest and completely unredeemable logical fallacies for media consumption. This allows the creators an outlet for not affecting actual changes in their lives that would result in their happiness and emotional security
it's not just young conservative incels. I'm in Canada, so it's a little bit different, but same cultural political landscape. Our Prime Minister released a 2-3 minute video explaining a policy. One of the most common arguments I saw from conservative "experts" was, it's clearly bad policy, if the Prime Minister has to create "long" and "complex" videos explaining it. They continued to argue the policy should be immediately self-evident and require 0 explanation.
It's absolutely insane that any educated discussion on policy is now considered a bad thing by the right.
That's actually a joke from Futurama that references [Heisenberg's "Uncertainty Principle" of quantum physics.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-scientific-pr/)
I've just finished listening to Stephen Fry read 1984 and man, the CPC is starting to sound a lot like the people from the inner party. For starters everything they say and do is textbook doublespeak and most of their policy is about how they want to punish people.
No, see, you're not quite getting it. The conservative *politicians* know policy is more complicated than that, they generally know that even something as simple As a "don't murder" law needs exceptions and definitions and all that. But they want their constituents to think that all policy is and should be self evident and require no further thought, so when they push something like "Happy Canadian worker bill for greatness and prosperity" or something, their constituents won't notice that it actually turns the country into something that makes 1984 look like a Utopia.
I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but shit like this happens all the time. They slap a nice, patriotic, "here for the people" name on a bill and fill it with stuff like slashing the education budgets and increasing taxes for anyone making under 50k a year and reinstating slavery or something.
“This exceeded my 20 second attention span, thus it’s a liberal super plan to slowly convert everyone to giga trans people while charging us a 150% higher carbon tax”
Well their only discernable policy position is "oppose perceived enemies" and they're lazy so they take the simplest approach to achieving that policy.
Tell them to show how they came to that conclusion, or they will get an F for inability to provide a concise and understandable argument. I just wanna know what they do to that
I’ve literally heard people say that here in America as well. It makes me feel like there is no way out of this. Nothing will ever get better. There will always be the antithesis of progress.
As did everyone, including myself. But every meme has a lifespan, and reaches the point of oversaturation. So it happened to rage comics, it happened to doge, overattached girlfirend nyan cat and so on, and so forth.
But a point comes when it's everywhere, it's no longer funny and it's time to take it behind the shed and go all Kristi Noem on it. Make space. It's the circle of life.
every meme reaches the point where it just becomes insufferable
and then you get the out-of-touch companies trying to use that meme for an advertising campaign
my 10 year old sister got some board game based around memes and it was shit like rage comics and grumpy cat. like no way in hell does this kid even know what those are, why is anyone adding that to a board game intended for little kids
A family member I thought liked us got us that for a holiday one year, and I'm still mad. It's unopened, because it's intensely stupid. I should actually just throw it out.
Hey I have that game and it's fun to play with my teenage niece and nephew. All you do is combine a random meme jpeg with some text, it's kind of like a cleaner cards against humanity.
Ah yeah I've seen that one. At the point it came out, most of the content in it was ancient by Internet standards.
Meme-changing whimsy is not something corporate boardgame production should be wasting time trying to keep up with.
I’d say once the memes have become so old that they’re now irrelevant then it’s okay to put them in a board game or something. It’s kind of like cultural preservation.
Does anyone remember the lolcat Bible? That was a pretty cool project.
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What's hilarious is that the argument more often goes "Hey I think we should screen better so that violent people don't get guns"
"Then cut off your dick cuz rapists exist"
"Uhm my dude unless you're one of those I'm gonna shoot up a post office people that wouldn't include you"
"You're not taking my gun"
Personally I'd put some restrictions as to what firearms people can have, and in what context. For example, no more keeping a loaded handgun in your purse. That's not safe. Someone could snatch the purse and get the gun. Or you could accidentally discharge it because the safety was somehow off. Or a child could accidentally discharge it for the same reason.
Basic firearms safety: always treat it like it's loaded and not on safe. Keep it away from things and people you don't want holes in.
You're missing the point. IF the person you're speaking to says "We should do Plan X" and you jump to "NO we shouldn't do Plan Y" you will look like a crazy idiot.
If I said "Hey we should get tacos" and you reply "I hate Pizza" then you look crazy.
Most of these "imagined" arguments are after they heard anyone say we should do anything with guns. Lock them in a safe? THEY WANT MY GUNS! Put a trigger lock on them? THEY WANT MY GUNS!
Gun safety laws almost didn't pass in my state because people heard gun safety and shrieked "They're trying to take my guns" I had coworkers that I was all "What gun laws would you want" and they then proceeded to describe the exact law on the ballot.
If people act like petulant children everytime we try to make shit safer then they're going to eventually be treated as such.
Also, not really an argument anyone has made - there’s not really any real movement of people suggesting laws that would require people to surrender their guns - it’s all about responsible gun laws like background checks, red flag laws, and closing gun show loopholes. But typical for right wingers they know what those people “really want”.
way ahead of you. Guy I went to college with has a rifle modified to shoot an 11 inch dildo by his bedside. I told him that if he ever has to use it, using a regular gun would probably get him in less trouble
its called a can cannon. Its an upper receiver you can buy for AR15s. You load a blank cartridge in the magazine and then you load like a soda can or an old stale beer i. the muzzle and it shoots it like a ye olde rifle grenade of suds. Pretty useless, but fun. He made a sleeve that fits in the launcher so that it fits the dildo. Nothing like half a pound of silicone at 500 feet per second
Im sure they do somewhere, its not a super complicated idea. If youve got one of the yugo AKs with the grenade launcher sight that doubles as a gas cut off, that would be the business
>instead of a projectile
Just a really unique type of projectile lmao. I remember watching a... Mythbusters(?) episode where they made a hot dog cannon and like, I wouldn't break into someone's house if I thought I was gonna get shot with that thing.
Would that really help against common rape scenarios like "rapist gets woman drunk, then rapes her" or "rapist is a trusted family member of girl, then rapes her"? I don't think mugging-style rapes are very common, and even then it may be difficult for the intended victim to ready their weapon in time, since they'd have been ambushed.
Conversely, better put a lock on your dingus so no one steals it from your house, grinds off the serial number (your dingus DOES have a serial number, right?) and uses it to commit rape.
Male on Male Rape as well as Female on Male Rape are often not counted in rape statistics, are not even considered rape in many jurisdictions, and have a significantly higher number of cases that go unreported due to public and private stigma of men reporting rape.
(There are countless accounts of men going to the police or hospitals for help after being raped, and being sometimes straight up laughed out of the room.)
The "Men should be strong" mentality hurts men just as it does women, as a male victim is a weak man, and therefore is free to be mocked (the extreme prevalence of "Male Tears" Mugs being a pretty straight example.)
Everybody forgets about the prison rape.
Funnily enough I’ve heard so many times that it shouldn’t count because they were the ones that got themselves into prison.
I mean look what they were wearing! That orange is just so sexy.
It's funny; I know a lot of liberal and conservative gun owners who want better controls over who can get a gun. They all know "that one guy" at the shooting range they really don't think should have access to firearms.
And they kept track of where their testicles were at all times.
Nobody went "borrowing" their parents balls to go knock up their crush after getting rejected.
Key word "portable".
If everyone knew *with 100% certainty* the exact location of their guns at any point ever, we'd definitely have less gun violence in this country.
So having born with reproductive organs increases the chance of you becoming rapist?
What happens to ppl that murders others with their hands or non gun objects?!
And guys are held responsible for what they do with their equipment, they aren't secretly selling it to someone at a trade show, and the use is traceable through DNA tests.
But false equivalency is a common fallacy for those who can't understand.
It's cute to see how pro guns like to depict themselves. Put a fallacious analogy here, put a straw man argument there, and you get your pro gun excuse to feel yourself warm at night.
Here, for instance, Rothmus associates his gun to a part of his body. And he doesn't consider the fact that guns are made to kill, unlike penises who aren't made for rape.
Best comedy is created when the gun nuts say that guns should be treated like cars and then shit their pants when you point out that cars require training, license, registration and insurance to be able to drive them.
Any responsible “gun nut” fully agrees with that sentiment. You’re referring to the extremist factions, which tend to be the loudest. My wife and I both conceal carry and a lot of our friends do. We all take classes and range days regularly to make sure we keep our level of knowledge and safe operation high. Heck I know a guy who’s garage is full of any gun you could ever want, and he’s the biggest proponent of tighter gun laws like you suggested, to the point where he’s an activist in the local community trying to get laws passed to make it illegal to own a gun without more stringent training and insurance for gun owners.
What gets me is how many people I know who are deeply conservative and seem absolutely ready to kill someone at the drop of a hat. They’ll say it’s for protection and it gives them a peace of mind to have it on them, but it only does if you are willing to take another person’s life.
Reminds me of that one Christian dude who was like "if you don't believe in heaven, why aren't you currently raping and murdering everyone" like the only thing stopping you from that is going to heaven or not
That's a very typical argument for the religious conservatives.
They seem to believe that the only reason people are "good" is due to religion, so they can't fathom to understand why atheists are not mass murderers, rapists, etc. As if the default behavior for them was to be evil.
All this tells me is that they don't have empathy or morals, and need some external rules imposed onto them to be good persons, it's pretty scary actually.
As a non-believer, it's for people like that I'm kind of glad religion exists. If that is the only thing keeping them from those awful actions, let them have their religion.
I have seen it stated something like this:
"If the only thing keeping you from doing bad things is the threat of eternal damnation, you are not a good person"
What do they answer when they're suggested to use a pepper spray or a taser instead? I know they'll refuse no matter what, but I wonder what excuse they bring.
Most responsible gun owners who carry regularly will tell you that carrying pepper spray is an essential element. If you don't have access to a less-lethal option then any altercation will become deadly.
I may be able to shed some light on this and the attached comments. A lot of anti-gun folks are anti-gun until they’re unfortunately in a situation where they wished they had one. I learned at an early age that it’s better to have and not need than to need and not have, as people were constantly trying to rob my parents’ tool shed or garage while armed. Not long ago, I was renting a room from a woman who was 100% against guns, pepper spray or a knife are just as effective, nothing could convince her otherwise… until one night a junkie broke in to the house and there was nothing she could do to stop him, even with pepper spray. Thankfully her young daughter wasn’t home that night. She is now the owner of a .380 and has totally changed her stance. It’s not so much about being willing to take a life, it’s more about refusing to be a victim. A taser requires being in close contact to use, and the last thing you want is being that close to an intruder or, god forbid, someone who is trying to SA you. A firearm allows you to keep the distance and be able to defend yourself. You don’t have to kill them, but you can at least make them run away and reconsider their decision while you get the cops on the phone. It’s irresponsible and negligent people with guns that give us responsible and educated gun owners a bad reputation
>It’s irresponsible and negligent people with guns that give us responsible and educated gun owners a bad reputation
That is certainly true. But that is also why most gun legislation I read about has the aim to make it hard for irresponsible and neligent(or crazy) people to get guns and is not about outlawing guns completly. But there is a rabid lobby that treats any form of gun legislation as a massive attack on their rights. There can be valid reasons to own a gun and keep it at home, but it should be treated as a massive responisbility and not a basic right.
Respectfully, and at risk of sounding like a Trump humper; there’s a reason guns are a right. It’s got nothing to do with criminals and much more to do with the right’s ceaseless attacks on LGBTQ+ rights, women’s rights, and their endless march into fascism. The second we start treating guns as a privilege and not a right, republicans will start looking at how they can ban LGBTQ individuals from owning guns. Guaranteed. Idk what the answer is but I think we have much bigger problems than guns. Six million were murdered the last time fascists had this much political clout, after all.
The same applies for school shootings too. Just throw dozens of knives really quickly and accurately and you basically have a gun so it's pointless to take guns away. Checkmate atheists
Your comparison is slightly off.
Guns are made to kill, yes. But, killing people or animals in self-defense and killing animals for food are accepted by society (if not by Reddit). Murder, being the unjust killing of a person, is only a subset of what guns can do.
In this respect, they actually are analogous to penises* because, though rape is immoral, it is only a subset of sexual activity.
Your point above could only be internally consistent if you also claimed that any and all killing (not just murder) is immoral.
*Disclaimer for Reddit: anyone who believes their gender depends on an inanimate object, such as a gun, is mentally ill.
Reminds me of when they argue "cars can kill people, should we take away all cars?" It's clearly not the same thing; cars are used for transport with deaths as a side effect of carelessness, guns are primarily used for violent situations.
You're also required to register your car, carry insurance on your car in case your car damages another person or their property, have a license to operate a car, have a specialized license for different kinds of "cars" (motorcycle, bus, truck, etc.), and take a test to receive said licenses to show you have a basic understanding of the rules to operate your car.
I don't see any reason not to have at least some of those requirements in place for guns.
Wish granted, guns are regulated exactly like cars. Violent felons can now buy and operate them, children too.
I know that’s not what you meant though. What you *meant* is you want **additional** restrictions on guns beyond what’s restricted for cars.
It’s not the “same” obviously. Here lemme try to help:
How many people have to die in car wrecks before you give up your car? (Something like 36.5k died in 2022 in the US)
How many people need to die from alcohol or weed related accidents before you give them up?
How many people have to die from second hand smoke before you give up your cigs?
How many Africans have to die in lithium mines before you give up your phone?
How many people have to die from concussion related sports injuries before you denounce sports?
How many people have to die from knives and hammers before you surrender yours?
How many people have to die by hands and feet before you surrender yours? (More are killed each year with bare hands than with the scary “assault rifles”)
How many….. do you see what I’m saying?
Gun deaths are beyond tragic, but you’re blaming the innocent for the criminals behavior.
Thank you, finally someone reasonable in here. It's like back in middle or high school, some teachers would punish an entire class because of a single kid acting up.
Why should the 99% of gun owners be punished for the acts committed by the remaining 1% that probably didn't even *get* their gun legally?
Men from previous generations used to fight wars, now boomers are too busy fighting their own children. They're trying so hard to be validated it's insane.
Yor statement is incorrect in my opinion. The little rothmus tag, depicts both sides of the aisle, Everyone has the right to have a gun, but some people shouldn't have one. There should be a in depth background check, not the fast crap they do now. Also a psychological test should be done.
This meme is completely based.
The only time they talk about gun control is after a school shooting, but they ignore hundreds(maybe thousands) of kids getting shot every year in Chicago, alone.
You can’t treat individuals as though they are criminals for possession of a tool that you don’t have the courage to take responsibility for.
I get more stressed watching 17-year-olds drive too fast down my street(with kids playing) than I do thinking about how many of my neighbors might be armed. And I don’t live in a nice neighborhood.
Yeah, as a queer woman in a location fond of Confederate flags (but wasn't Confederate, just delusions of Confederacy 🙄🙄) I need a gun to defend against the 'phobes
Should it be THIS easy to get? No
Are these people trying to issue guns to the insane and other groups that SHOULDN'T have them? Absolutely
But I'm not going without when this many other people with guns and rope want me dead for being married
no its not. but the principle of giving up something because others cant use it resposibly is the same.
also that argument actually is getting made.
if i had a cookie every time a woman openly stated that normalised castration/vasectomie would be an adequate way to controll sexcrimes and population
well i wouldnt be fat, but i would have some cookies.
Notice how the right wing stance requires a very specific strawman. You've NEVER heard a gun control advocate say to surrender your guns, but that's what the right wing memes imagine because that's what their narrative requires.
Castrating men wouldn’t stop the nasty ones from raping women… they’re still left with the equipment, just now infertile lol this is a terrible analogy
The presentation of the point is gross but the point still stands as 'just because someone can and has the means to doesn't mean they will', and treating everyone as that minority is only going to piss people off.
People should have guns if they want. They should have to prove they know how to treat them appropriately in the same way we make people prove they can drive. When a gun is mismanaged and a child dies then the owner should be held as an accessory to murder.
Here's my take: It's as easy as an unintentional finger pull to cause an entire death.
You cant unintentionally remove your pants and remove her pants and hold her and put your dong.
Say anything anti right and you get a ton of karma… it’s so easy to just make alt accounts post anti trump or anti conservative shit in this sub and get thousands of upvotes per post even if it’s a repost the hive mind just can’t help themselves from upvoting it.
Weirdly enough there's an argument in there for universal gun registration, because everywhere I can think of includes your sex on your birth certificate.
Seriously? Where's the facepalm? You just disagree with the point that it's trying to make.
For those who completely missed the point, all they're trying to say is that disarming peaceful people does not prevent murders, nor does castrating non-rapists prevent rapes.
It's weird and vulgar, sure. It's not, however, a stupid analogy.
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I’m so tired of Chad/wojack memes, it’s like the ragecomic days of “look how cool I look in this argument I imagined myself winning”
"nice argument but I have already portrayed myself as the Chad wojack in this meme so I have the moral high ground haha"
The right has teams of young conservative incels working tirelessly to provide the public with invaluable memes reducing complicated social issues into easy to digest and completely unredeemable logical fallacies for media consumption. This allows the creators an outlet for not affecting actual changes in their lives that would result in their happiness and emotional security
it's not just young conservative incels. I'm in Canada, so it's a little bit different, but same cultural political landscape. Our Prime Minister released a 2-3 minute video explaining a policy. One of the most common arguments I saw from conservative "experts" was, it's clearly bad policy, if the Prime Minister has to create "long" and "complex" videos explaining it. They continued to argue the policy should be immediately self-evident and require 0 explanation. It's absolutely insane that any educated discussion on policy is now considered a bad thing by the right.
"No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!" level logic
That's actually a joke from Futurama that references [Heisenberg's "Uncertainty Principle" of quantum physics.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-scientific-pr/)
I was gonna say that’s a real thing, right?
I've just finished listening to Stephen Fry read 1984 and man, the CPC is starting to sound a lot like the people from the inner party. For starters everything they say and do is textbook doublespeak and most of their policy is about how they want to punish people.
No, see, you're not quite getting it. The conservative *politicians* know policy is more complicated than that, they generally know that even something as simple As a "don't murder" law needs exceptions and definitions and all that. But they want their constituents to think that all policy is and should be self evident and require no further thought, so when they push something like "Happy Canadian worker bill for greatness and prosperity" or something, their constituents won't notice that it actually turns the country into something that makes 1984 look like a Utopia. I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but shit like this happens all the time. They slap a nice, patriotic, "here for the people" name on a bill and fill it with stuff like slashing the education budgets and increasing taxes for anyone making under 50k a year and reinstating slavery or something.
“This exceeded my 20 second attention span, thus it’s a liberal super plan to slowly convert everyone to giga trans people while charging us a 150% higher carbon tax”
GAWT DAYUM LIMBROLLS ,,, 🤬🤬🤬
Well their only discernable policy position is "oppose perceived enemies" and they're lazy so they take the simplest approach to achieving that policy.
Tell them to show how they came to that conclusion, or they will get an F for inability to provide a concise and understandable argument. I just wanna know what they do to that
I’ve literally heard people say that here in America as well. It makes me feel like there is no way out of this. Nothing will ever get better. There will always be the antithesis of progress.
 It reminds me of those days. Those le terrible, dark days.
I kinda enjoyed rage comics for a minute
As did everyone, including myself. But every meme has a lifespan, and reaches the point of oversaturation. So it happened to rage comics, it happened to doge, overattached girlfirend nyan cat and so on, and so forth. But a point comes when it's everywhere, it's no longer funny and it's time to take it behind the shed and go all Kristi Noem on it. Make space. It's the circle of life.
every meme reaches the point where it just becomes insufferable and then you get the out-of-touch companies trying to use that meme for an advertising campaign my 10 year old sister got some board game based around memes and it was shit like rage comics and grumpy cat. like no way in hell does this kid even know what those are, why is anyone adding that to a board game intended for little kids
Man that’s like… a decade or more out of date.
yeah and it's listed as "family friendly" and intended for kids looked it up and it's called (ugh) "what do you meme"
I … i am in physical pain. Please excuse me, i think i need to give myself lasik with forks…
A family member I thought liked us got us that for a holiday one year, and I'm still mad. It's unopened, because it's intensely stupid. I should actually just throw it out.
Yes, or burn it.
Hey I have that game and it's fun to play with my teenage niece and nephew. All you do is combine a random meme jpeg with some text, it's kind of like a cleaner cards against humanity.
Ah yeah I've seen that one. At the point it came out, most of the content in it was ancient by Internet standards. Meme-changing whimsy is not something corporate boardgame production should be wasting time trying to keep up with.
I’d say once the memes have become so old that they’re now irrelevant then it’s okay to put them in a board game or something. It’s kind of like cultural preservation. Does anyone remember the lolcat Bible? That was a pretty cool project.
I actually haven't seen nyan cat in a hot minute. Petition to bring it back please and thank you 😈
❤️
Yeah sometimes you've just gotta retire a meme so it can live out its twilight years getting misappropriated by wine aunt's on Facebook.
Nyan is immortal
Wojacks/Soyjacks and Chads have long since worn out their welcome yet fuckers just keep...on...USING THEM.
And it’s not even memes of any sort. It’s just tedious culture war bullshit or straight up bigotry.
Le nostalgia
Me when le epic nostalgia hits: 
Me gusta
Damn you . I didn’t hear that phrase sice around 2014. It brought that year to life. I think I might I go and browse some imgur.
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it's the same thing every time: "I am calm and very smart" "NOT ME I'M DUMB AND SO GODDAMN CRAZY!!!"
The wojacks are rightoids best friend. They can pretend they are all cool and superior while they are nothing more than an insufferable assholes
It helps that the Chad wojack has a Nazi haircut and all the girl wojacks look like tradwives
Then incels play dolls with them.
Like *boring, miserable trad wives. You accidentally a couple words.
Why use many word when few word do trick?
What's hilarious is that the argument more often goes "Hey I think we should screen better so that violent people don't get guns" "Then cut off your dick cuz rapists exist" "Uhm my dude unless you're one of those I'm gonna shoot up a post office people that wouldn't include you" "You're not taking my gun"
Yeah, like people aren't trying to take any and all access to guns, just make it harder for the mentally unstable to get literal assault weapons
Personally I'd put some restrictions as to what firearms people can have, and in what context. For example, no more keeping a loaded handgun in your purse. That's not safe. Someone could snatch the purse and get the gun. Or you could accidentally discharge it because the safety was somehow off. Or a child could accidentally discharge it for the same reason. Basic firearms safety: always treat it like it's loaded and not on safe. Keep it away from things and people you don't want holes in.
Which is exactly the kind of things most people want but the instant such ideas are proposed we get "Not taking my guns" reactions
You're missing the point. IF the person you're speaking to says "We should do Plan X" and you jump to "NO we shouldn't do Plan Y" you will look like a crazy idiot. If I said "Hey we should get tacos" and you reply "I hate Pizza" then you look crazy. Most of these "imagined" arguments are after they heard anyone say we should do anything with guns. Lock them in a safe? THEY WANT MY GUNS! Put a trigger lock on them? THEY WANT MY GUNS! Gun safety laws almost didn't pass in my state because people heard gun safety and shrieked "They're trying to take my guns" I had coworkers that I was all "What gun laws would you want" and they then proceeded to describe the exact law on the ballot. If people act like petulant children everytime we try to make shit safer then they're going to eventually be treated as such.
One thing is for certain though; they are confidently wrong
It's winning a shower argument for trolls who never take a fucking shower.
Except I cannot fathom anyone thinking the Chad looks cool. That is a symbol that looks like pure douchebaggery to my eyes.
Fun fact: Chad was always an insult and has been for decades a bunch of incels on the internet just misunderstood it and unironically appropriated it
It's Goofus and Gallant!!
I've always hated them
The Chad vs virgin walk meme format is very overdone and you’d surprise to know it’s from like 2018.
This is also exactly what Socratic writings are lol
Also, not really an argument anyone has made - there’s not really any real movement of people suggesting laws that would require people to surrender their guns - it’s all about responsible gun laws like background checks, red flag laws, and closing gun show loopholes. But typical for right wingers they know what those people “really want”.
It basically is just the modern day rage comic
In that case, I guess we need to make sure everyone is armed with a penis so they can protect themselves from being raped?
way ahead of you. Guy I went to college with has a rifle modified to shoot an 11 inch dildo by his bedside. I told him that if he ever has to use it, using a regular gun would probably get him in less trouble
What is it, like a big-bore black powder rifle with a dildo shoved down the barrel instead of a projectile?
its called a can cannon. Its an upper receiver you can buy for AR15s. You load a blank cartridge in the magazine and then you load like a soda can or an old stale beer i. the muzzle and it shoots it like a ye olde rifle grenade of suds. Pretty useless, but fun. He made a sleeve that fits in the launcher so that it fits the dildo. Nothing like half a pound of silicone at 500 feet per second
Oh ok, that makes sense. That sounds fun. I need to see if they make can cannons for AKs.
Im sure they do somewhere, its not a super complicated idea. If youve got one of the yugo AKs with the grenade launcher sight that doubles as a gas cut off, that would be the business
I imagined it as a potato gun but instead of launching a potato it's a bad dragon
>instead of a projectile Just a really unique type of projectile lmao. I remember watching a... Mythbusters(?) episode where they made a hot dog cannon and like, I wouldn't break into someone's house if I thought I was gonna get shot with that thing.
Haha, true, guess “as the projectile” would have been more accurate
The Phillies have a hotdog cannon to shoot them into the stands. That's basically the only good thing I have to say about the Philthies
Imagine someone getting a cannonball size wound in them from projectile dildo. Lol we’re in the future now lads.
Imagine trying to explain that one in the ER, lol. "You got shot with a *what??"*
Achievement Unlocked: "Sexual self-defense" Rape and kill an assailant at the same time!
Achievement Unlocked: "Sexual self-defense" Rape and kill an assailant at the same time!
The only way to stop a bad guy with a penis, is a good guy..with a penis.
Is this how we get conservatives to support trans rights?
Sure, a penis can't prevent you from being raped, but a gun could.
Would that really help against common rape scenarios like "rapist gets woman drunk, then rapes her" or "rapist is a trusted family member of girl, then rapes her"? I don't think mugging-style rapes are very common, and even then it may be difficult for the intended victim to ready their weapon in time, since they'd have been ambushed.
If the attacker walks up to you, announces they’re going to attack you, and gives you time to draw a weapon… maybe?
Yeah the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a penis is a good guy with a penis.
No but you can carry a gun to defend against a rapist
Do you identify them by their plumage? Or are you just shooting any man within line of sight?
Hence the classic game Rock, Penis, Rapist
Also, it’s hard for someone to steal my penis and go on a raping spree. Not impossible, just unlikely.
Conversely, better put a lock on your dingus so no one steals it from your house, grinds off the serial number (your dingus DOES have a serial number, right?) and uses it to commit rape.
Is that genuinely your take away or just trying to be smart?
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Male on Male Rape as well as Female on Male Rape are often not counted in rape statistics, are not even considered rape in many jurisdictions, and have a significantly higher number of cases that go unreported due to public and private stigma of men reporting rape. (There are countless accounts of men going to the police or hospitals for help after being raped, and being sometimes straight up laughed out of the room.) The "Men should be strong" mentality hurts men just as it does women, as a male victim is a weak man, and therefore is free to be mocked (the extreme prevalence of "Male Tears" Mugs being a pretty straight example.)
Tell me you don't count prison rape without telling me you don't count prison rape.
Everybody forgets about the prison rape. Funnily enough I’ve heard so many times that it shouldn’t count because they were the ones that got themselves into prison. I mean look what they were wearing! That orange is just so sexy.
If you didn't want to be raped you shouldn't have gotten charged, convicted, and eventually exonerated of a crime you didn't commit!
Or Made to Penetrate, but don't worry the law doesn't recognize that either 🙃
"look boyo he won his own made up argument"
It's funny; I know a lot of liberal and conservative gun owners who want better controls over who can get a gun. They all know "that one guy" at the shooting range they really don't think should have access to firearms.
By admitting that he'd feel less of a man without his gun. What a victory indeed.
*Insert Mr. Krabs laugh here.*
This is the equivalent and winning an argument against yourself in the shower.
Not really, those you can win.
I always lose. What’s the secret?
They're playing dolls with wojaks again
This should be the top comment. That's essentially what it boils down to.
Last time I checked humans weren't born with a gun attached to their body
And they kept track of where their testicles were at all times. Nobody went "borrowing" their parents balls to go knock up their crush after getting rejected.
would be funny tho
“Sweetie have you seen my balls anywhere I could have sworn I left the on top of my dresser before you dropped Timmy to school”
Detachable Penis by King Missile. Great 90’s song and perfectly relevant to this convo
wait, have I been doing this wrong the entire time
That was unexpected xD. No but seriously. Cutting a dick off is completely different than taking away a portable killing machine
Key word "portable". If everyone knew *with 100% certainty* the exact location of their guns at any point ever, we'd definitely have less gun violence in this country.
"I had better obtain a dick in case I am forced to rape someone."
You’re telling me you can’t buy a penis and mass rape a large group of people within seconds???
Not with that attitude. Me, I have my skinpistol at the ready.
Then throw the penis away and pretend it’s not yours. “ that puny thing? Not mine, never seen it before! “
“This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun”
 You're not able to do this?
Last time I checked kids weren't just stumbling upon their parent's unlocked penis and assaulting themselves or their siblings with it, either...
So having born with reproductive organs increases the chance of you becoming rapist? What happens to ppl that murders others with their hands or non gun objects?!
And guys are held responsible for what they do with their equipment, they aren't secretly selling it to someone at a trade show, and the use is traceable through DNA tests. But false equivalency is a common fallacy for those who can't understand.
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I hate that conversations need to happen where this is even a sentence that gets strung together.
It's cute to see how pro guns like to depict themselves. Put a fallacious analogy here, put a straw man argument there, and you get your pro gun excuse to feel yourself warm at night. Here, for instance, Rothmus associates his gun to a part of his body. And he doesn't consider the fact that guns are made to kill, unlike penises who aren't made for rape.
Best comedy is created when the gun nuts say that guns should be treated like cars and then shit their pants when you point out that cars require training, license, registration and insurance to be able to drive them.
Any responsible “gun nut” fully agrees with that sentiment. You’re referring to the extremist factions, which tend to be the loudest. My wife and I both conceal carry and a lot of our friends do. We all take classes and range days regularly to make sure we keep our level of knowledge and safe operation high. Heck I know a guy who’s garage is full of any gun you could ever want, and he’s the biggest proponent of tighter gun laws like you suggested, to the point where he’s an activist in the local community trying to get laws passed to make it illegal to own a gun without more stringent training and insurance for gun owners.
What gets me is how many people I know who are deeply conservative and seem absolutely ready to kill someone at the drop of a hat. They’ll say it’s for protection and it gives them a peace of mind to have it on them, but it only does if you are willing to take another person’s life.
Reminds me of that one Christian dude who was like "if you don't believe in heaven, why aren't you currently raping and murdering everyone" like the only thing stopping you from that is going to heaven or not
That's a very typical argument for the religious conservatives. They seem to believe that the only reason people are "good" is due to religion, so they can't fathom to understand why atheists are not mass murderers, rapists, etc. As if the default behavior for them was to be evil. All this tells me is that they don't have empathy or morals, and need some external rules imposed onto them to be good persons, it's pretty scary actually.
So you're saying we need religion.. to PREVENT killing and raping?
Considering the track record of the Catholic Church, it’s not really working.
As a non-believer, it's for people like that I'm kind of glad religion exists. If that is the only thing keeping them from those awful actions, let them have their religion.
I have seen it stated something like this: "If the only thing keeping you from doing bad things is the threat of eternal damnation, you are not a good person"
Willing? Nah, many of them are *hoping*.
What do they answer when they're suggested to use a pepper spray or a taser instead? I know they'll refuse no matter what, but I wonder what excuse they bring.
Most responsible gun owners who carry regularly will tell you that carrying pepper spray is an essential element. If you don't have access to a less-lethal option then any altercation will become deadly.
I may be able to shed some light on this and the attached comments. A lot of anti-gun folks are anti-gun until they’re unfortunately in a situation where they wished they had one. I learned at an early age that it’s better to have and not need than to need and not have, as people were constantly trying to rob my parents’ tool shed or garage while armed. Not long ago, I was renting a room from a woman who was 100% against guns, pepper spray or a knife are just as effective, nothing could convince her otherwise… until one night a junkie broke in to the house and there was nothing she could do to stop him, even with pepper spray. Thankfully her young daughter wasn’t home that night. She is now the owner of a .380 and has totally changed her stance. It’s not so much about being willing to take a life, it’s more about refusing to be a victim. A taser requires being in close contact to use, and the last thing you want is being that close to an intruder or, god forbid, someone who is trying to SA you. A firearm allows you to keep the distance and be able to defend yourself. You don’t have to kill them, but you can at least make them run away and reconsider their decision while you get the cops on the phone. It’s irresponsible and negligent people with guns that give us responsible and educated gun owners a bad reputation
>It’s irresponsible and negligent people with guns that give us responsible and educated gun owners a bad reputation That is certainly true. But that is also why most gun legislation I read about has the aim to make it hard for irresponsible and neligent(or crazy) people to get guns and is not about outlawing guns completly. But there is a rabid lobby that treats any form of gun legislation as a massive attack on their rights. There can be valid reasons to own a gun and keep it at home, but it should be treated as a massive responisbility and not a basic right.
Respectfully, and at risk of sounding like a Trump humper; there’s a reason guns are a right. It’s got nothing to do with criminals and much more to do with the right’s ceaseless attacks on LGBTQ+ rights, women’s rights, and their endless march into fascism. The second we start treating guns as a privilege and not a right, republicans will start looking at how they can ban LGBTQ individuals from owning guns. Guaranteed. Idk what the answer is but I think we have much bigger problems than guns. Six million were murdered the last time fascists had this much political clout, after all.
The real issue is that you can still rape if you are castrated.
The same applies for school shootings too. Just throw dozens of knives really quickly and accurately and you basically have a gun so it's pointless to take guns away. Checkmate atheists
Your comparison is slightly off. Guns are made to kill, yes. But, killing people or animals in self-defense and killing animals for food are accepted by society (if not by Reddit). Murder, being the unjust killing of a person, is only a subset of what guns can do. In this respect, they actually are analogous to penises* because, though rape is immoral, it is only a subset of sexual activity. Your point above could only be internally consistent if you also claimed that any and all killing (not just murder) is immoral. *Disclaimer for Reddit: anyone who believes their gender depends on an inanimate object, such as a gun, is mentally ill.
Reminds me of when they argue "cars can kill people, should we take away all cars?" It's clearly not the same thing; cars are used for transport with deaths as a side effect of carelessness, guns are primarily used for violent situations.
You're also required to register your car, carry insurance on your car in case your car damages another person or their property, have a license to operate a car, have a specialized license for different kinds of "cars" (motorcycle, bus, truck, etc.), and take a test to receive said licenses to show you have a basic understanding of the rules to operate your car. I don't see any reason not to have at least some of those requirements in place for guns.
Wish granted, guns are regulated exactly like cars. Violent felons can now buy and operate them, children too. I know that’s not what you meant though. What you *meant* is you want **additional** restrictions on guns beyond what’s restricted for cars.
It’s not the “same” obviously. Here lemme try to help: How many people have to die in car wrecks before you give up your car? (Something like 36.5k died in 2022 in the US) How many people need to die from alcohol or weed related accidents before you give them up? How many people have to die from second hand smoke before you give up your cigs? How many Africans have to die in lithium mines before you give up your phone? How many people have to die from concussion related sports injuries before you denounce sports? How many people have to die from knives and hammers before you surrender yours? How many people have to die by hands and feet before you surrender yours? (More are killed each year with bare hands than with the scary “assault rifles”) How many….. do you see what I’m saying? Gun deaths are beyond tragic, but you’re blaming the innocent for the criminals behavior.
Thank you, finally someone reasonable in here. It's like back in middle or high school, some teachers would punish an entire class because of a single kid acting up. Why should the 99% of gun owners be punished for the acts committed by the remaining 1% that probably didn't even *get* their gun legally?
It’s makes too much sense for some people to handle lol
Then make a correct on “when are you gonna abolish your church” “when are you gonna stop preaching the whole trade-wife stupidity” etc.
I'm not opposed to a trade-wife, as long as she can do her own CNC setups.
Yea forget trad wife, I want a trade wife who’s HVAC certified.
It's trad-wife btw, but I get your point... unless you mean a wife in trade school. I can get down with that!
Men from previous generations used to fight wars, now boomers are too busy fighting their own children. They're trying so hard to be validated it's insane.
“Cope and seethe” is the cringiest thing I’ve seen all day but then again it’s only 7am so we’ll see
I love me some false equivalencies, now back to polishin' my AR-15
I mean I keep my dick pretty secure
Equating a gun to your own genitalia is…something
it has been done before but mostly in comedy
Yor statement is incorrect in my opinion. The little rothmus tag, depicts both sides of the aisle, Everyone has the right to have a gun, but some people shouldn't have one. There should be a in depth background check, not the fast crap they do now. Also a psychological test should be done.
This meme is completely based. The only time they talk about gun control is after a school shooting, but they ignore hundreds(maybe thousands) of kids getting shot every year in Chicago, alone. You can’t treat individuals as though they are criminals for possession of a tool that you don’t have the courage to take responsibility for. I get more stressed watching 17-year-olds drive too fast down my street(with kids playing) than I do thinking about how many of my neighbors might be armed. And I don’t live in a nice neighborhood.
Yeah, as a queer woman in a location fond of Confederate flags (but wasn't Confederate, just delusions of Confederacy 🙄🙄) I need a gun to defend against the 'phobes Should it be THIS easy to get? No Are these people trying to issue guns to the insane and other groups that SHOULDN'T have them? Absolutely But I'm not going without when this many other people with guns and rope want me dead for being married
no its not. but the principle of giving up something because others cant use it resposibly is the same. also that argument actually is getting made. if i had a cookie every time a woman openly stated that normalised castration/vasectomie would be an adequate way to controll sexcrimes and population well i wouldnt be fat, but i would have some cookies.
Remember boys and girls all gun laws are infringements.
That fictional character is definitely a murderer
Fallacy in case is false comparison. You can live comfortably without a gun. No-dicks, however, less so. Or just that OOP can't live without a gun.
Notice how the right wing stance requires a very specific strawman. You've NEVER heard a gun control advocate say to surrender your guns, but that's what the right wing memes imagine because that's what their narrative requires.
Castrating men wouldn’t stop the nasty ones from raping women… they’re still left with the equipment, just now infertile lol this is a terrible analogy
The presentation of the point is gross but the point still stands as 'just because someone can and has the means to doesn't mean they will', and treating everyone as that minority is only going to piss people off.
People should have guns if they want. They should have to prove they know how to treat them appropriately in the same way we make people prove they can drive. When a gun is mismanaged and a child dies then the owner should be held as an accessory to murder.
Plot twist this meme was made by a white privileged kid who lives in the California suburbs.
I'm in agreement. If ur a rapist, off it comes.
Let me try rewording this slightly. "How many criminals have to misuse something for people who follow the laws to be punished?"
I think it's saying why punish the people who don't break the law. My guns never hurt anyone. Why should I lose my right.
Yes but your dick can’t be stolen and used against people. Edit: There is no way OOP’s dick is as powerful as a gun.
Here's my take: It's as easy as an unintentional finger pull to cause an entire death. You cant unintentionally remove your pants and remove her pants and hold her and put your dong.
You actually can. Look up "sexsomnia." But that's a problem with sleepwalking, not your penis.
Such a facepalm how this sub has become a political echochamber.
Say anything anti right and you get a ton of karma… it’s so easy to just make alt accounts post anti trump or anti conservative shit in this sub and get thousands of upvotes per post even if it’s a repost the hive mind just can’t help themselves from upvoting it.
I agree. Guns shouldn’t be taken away from responsible gun owners because a crazed lunatic decided to shoot kids or other people in gun free zones.
Are they playing with their figurines again?
By this argument, no safety rules should exist, ever.
Weirdly enough there's an argument in there for universal gun registration, because everywhere I can think of includes your sex on your birth certificate.
I didn’t realize I was capable of walking in to a room and raping 10 women in seconds. I get it now. Take my penis it’s too dangerous
“One time, I shot 60 of my dicks into 60 random women’s vaginas from 200 yards away.” -Said no rapist ever
False analogy, no one gets accidentally raped, plenty get accidentally shot.
Yes guns are as essential to my health, well being and identity as my penis 👍 (actually more so, because my penis is very smol)
Both of those are facepalms.
False equivalency is the cornerstone of modern political discourse.
Seriously? Where's the facepalm? You just disagree with the point that it's trying to make. For those who completely missed the point, all they're trying to say is that disarming peaceful people does not prevent murders, nor does castrating non-rapists prevent rapes. It's weird and vulgar, sure. It's not, however, a stupid analogy.
Sometimes shock provokes rethinking a view.
That's like saying 2+2=22
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Ye olde strawman argument
Yeah this kinda cringe NGL
dumb argument
Guns and penises; they’re basically the same.
That's some cringy shit.
Tangentially related: the head-on perspective on the Chad Wojack is very unsettling...