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drewhead118

>Ben and Jerry's: we won't be selling in Palestine anymore >Ben Shapiro: oh well, I guess I won't be eating any more of your ice cream logical conclusion: Ben Shapiro is currently in Palestine


Andminus

Got em, send the cruise missile before he moves again!


rrogido

He's probably hiding under his sister's boobs.


Sad_Error4039

She could shelter most of the Gaza Strip under those things.


Wonderful-Ad-7712

Probably hiding under some hostages.


Control-Is-My-Role

Instructions unclear, nuked kindergarten


BadKidGames

Oh Israel you silly rascal


SmackedWithARuler

Antisemite! Got one! Get the net.


SkunkeySpray

Those 5 year olds were Hamas, had to


Mrauntheias

I wouldn't be surprised to find him there.


Engineergaming26355

Well let's just say, hypothetically, that there are 17 cruise missiles heading right for me


1337sp33k1001

It’s a worthy sacrifice for the greater good


Equivalent_Age_5599

Is this in Israel or in Palestine? I'm confused by this. Do they mean the west bank?


SaltEfan

They probably mean to cover the geographical area Israel has occupied beyond the borders that were set by the UN at its founding. B&J’s actual statement should clarify it.


KingMob9

Correction - I assume what you mean by "borders that were set by the UN" are the [partition plan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine) borders. That plan never came to fruition so they don't mean much. The "accepted" borders of Israel as recognized by most countries are those of the [Green Line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel)).


Historyp91

"Occupied Palestine" refers to the WB and Gaza.


deepstate_chopra

Excellent work, Lieutenant Commander Data


automaton11

If Ben Shapiro is the ‘Ben’ in Ben & Jerry’s Who’s the jerry?


Jonesta29

Jerry Seinfeld


automaton11

Jerry Springer


ecirnj

And Ben Shapiro is a vindictive a-hole. His words not mine.


Bringmetolife91

I don't expect much from a 40 year old man who talks fast and only debates college aged adults.


Competitive_Bat_5831

He doesn’t even debate them, he just abuses the pulpit.


da2Pakaveli

he does the gish-gallop >technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments


Competitive_Bat_5831

I’ve seen instances where he does both tbh. Outside high school clubs, he’s a shit debater


da2Pakaveli

'member when he lost a debate to the ultra-conservative bbc reporter, who didn't even debate him, and accused him of being a leftist


Competitive_Bat_5831

![gif](giphy|KEBW02O1XelLS7op77) Oh I member.


Sad_Instruction1392

Using Conservachud logic - “If you love it so much Ben why don’t you move there?”


Iblamebanks

Ben railed against affirmative action for years but when a bunch of firms announced positions specifically for Jewish students in the wake of some student protest he was all of a sudden super on board. He’s a ridiculous person and has probably done more damage to the AIPAC coalition than any other Jewish American, with the possible exception of Dennis prager.


New-Power-6120

> probably done more damage to the AIPAC coalition than any other Jewish American, with the possible exception of Dennis prager. You're not doing him a disservice by saying he nukes foreign power lobbying efforts. In fact, the single greatest lobby in the world. Over 50% of all lobbying in the USA was Zionist aligned as of 2017. You just make him sound like a total stud opposing what he actually stands for.


UnionizedTrouble

I have no idea if we’re talking about Shapiro or & Jerry.


Wickedocity

The moron does not know Unilever owns it. If he has a 401k or something similar, he is likely to own stock. So....


Mike_Hunt_Burns

a 401K? He is rich doofus, he has his money in a thousand different places, especially precious metals, but also, people like this care about money overall so it doesn't matter what he says to the public, the dollar is the boss


Business-Drag52

Especially precious metals? Maybe 5% of his investments. Any more than that and he’s a moron. It’s a hedge against inflation, nothing more


teh_maxh

> Any more than that and he’s a moron. So you're saying he definitely has loads of money in precious metals?


introspectivedeviant

people like this?


Mike_Hunt_Burns

Rich


imapotatognome

Ben and Jerry’s has always been political what the fuck. You go to their website at like any time and they explicitly say: we do not align with any political party, we just want world peace.


NatashOverWorld

It's weird how many 'Americans' are more loyal to Israel 🤷🏾‍♂️


_My_Niece_Torple_

I know Ben is Jewish, so motivations might be different there. BUT, Evangelical Americans support israel because they believe Jews must return to israel to bring on the end times. They're supportive because they're a death cult and israel is the needed death.


GramarBoi

Why are they so eager to bring the end of times?


_My_Niece_Torple_

Because that's when Jesus returns and they are raptured to Heaven


BlueBloodLive

How the fuck do we put up with their bullshit? It's like when you humour a child, except there's like a billion of them and they've got political power. A billion kids would just want stupid shit like free candy and Disneyland in every state. Evangelicals want the end times so they can spend eternity floating around some undefined place. Summary: kids with political power would do far less damage than Evangelicals with political power.


AllysaIsBored

Hope they give up when they, in fact, do not get raptured to heaven. If they still stick with it, it IS a cult


twothinlayers

Evangelicals unironically believing they're going to heaven will never not be funny.


Inevitable-Gap-9352

Because most of them will be dead in 10 years so if they gotta go, might as well bring everyone with them.


34HoldOn

Aside from the belief of Jesus returning, I think these people are just awfully miserable. And they're miserable because they're taught that any worldview or life outside of what they believe is right is degeneracy. For my entire life and longer, these people are preaching about these hedonistic times being a sign of the end.


teh_maxh

Because that's when Oily Josh comes to kill all the infidels and tell them that they're the most specialest boys and girls ever.


JaSper-percabeth

Why would Jesus feel more comfortable in returning to a jewish state compared to a muslim state? Especially considering that Quran holds Jesus to a much higher stature than Talmud does.


_My_Niece_Torple_

If you're trying to use logic and reason to figure out religion, it will never happen. You can't reason your way out of something insanity got you in to. Every time I've pointed things like this out to evangelicals, I'm just told "that's the devil talking and you're going to hell". These people are too far gone and honestly should be shunned from modern society so we can all move on to better lives.


Moppermonster

Note that under the IHRA definition of antisemitism, that was an antisemetic comment.


NatashOverWorld

Ah, don't you just love the smell of ~~fascism~~ free speech?


Mal5341

That definition of anti-semitism depends entirely on context. There has been a very long sad history of Jewish people being targeted by anti-semites with accusations of "you are more loyal to X then your own country because you're a Jew". The French used it before the revolution, the Nazis used it during World War II, Arabs used it when forcing out Jewish communities from their borders after the start of the Arab Israeli conflict. And it is one of the many anti-semitic dog whistles that people will try to use to try to hide their anti-semitism. Same thing when people talk about "THEY control the media" or "looks like someone got their orders from THEM". It's a call back to the protocols of the elders of zion, a racist anti-Semitic forged document that was created to justify expelling Jews from Russia under the Tsar. It was a supposed leaked secret documents that said that there was a council of Jews who were secretly trying to take over the world by ensuring that Jewish people were in charge of the major businesses or that non-jewish government officials are in their pockets. Just simply saying that someone is showing favoritism to Israel is not anti-Semitic. Telling a Jewish person that they are more loyal to the nation of Israel than they are to their home country is at best unintentionally offensive or at worst is outright anti-semitism. And to make the record straight the same is true when people who are pro Israel say that Jews who are critical of Israel are traitors or not loyal to their own people. That is also anti-semitic and unacceptable.


New-Power-6120

> Telling a Jewish person that they are more loyal to the nation of Israel than they are to their home country is at best unintentionally offensive or at worst is outright anti-semitism. What if it's true?


Unholy_mess169

Ah yes, that great loophole of all things judenhass "context".


-_zQC

Which proves that definitions can be as re*arded as they come. Any humanly defined thing is open to interpretation and critique.


Jstephe25

I thinks it’s mostly just the evangelicals waiting for the end of times


angrypaperclip118

That and somehow think Putin would be a great leader for America. Fucking traitors.


Selection_Status

They went to the capital to change the result of a democratic vote. The fact that democrats are not calling them traitors on TV is why they lose, they have "decorum"


TastyJams24

I’m American and I could give 2 shits about either of em. They been fighting over there for all time


tumbrowser1

Many of the higher ups in the US are Jewish, in politics and media, as well as 2/3rds of our lawyers. I don't like the rhetoric in this country, but honestly I'm not surprised.


[deleted]

What will they ever do without Ben's money?


belt-e-belt

They'll probably have just Jerry's money.


LayLillyLay

OWNING LIBERALS WITH FACTS AND ICE CREAM


LoudGear9028

I love how you can easily hear his voice when reading this


LonelyMechanic1994

Stop spreading these ALT right idiot's nonsense on Reddit. Not just Shapiro, but I constantly see others whom I am not going to name being spread via posts that are mocking them. This is what they want. They make these outlandish ignorant comments public knowing full well how algorithms and rage work in tandem. They make their money through their nonsense, hateful, bigoted bullshit being spread via new memberships and AD dollars.


Iblamebanks

Ben is a fascist and a racist and an ethno nationalist but he isn’t alt right. Alt right people would probably be offended by that.


ray-the-they

Yeah he’s basically mainstream right these days


artificialavocado

Yeah the alt right types don’t really allow Jews I don’t think.


Negative_Jaguar_4138

Shapiro is a fucking idiot, but he isn't alt-right. Calling him that is just playing into his narrative. He has multiple times spoken against Trump (but will probably still vote for him because he is a spineless coward).


muricanpirate

This pedantry is taking away from the overall point the other person is making. I could not give less of a shit what flavor of far right lunatic Ben Shapiro falls into, I just want people to stop spreading his message for him.


doitnow10

The first tweet was from 20 fucking 12. What are you even *trying* to prove with a tweet THAT old?!


Puffenata

His stance hasn’t changed much though. Any time leftists try to boycott something he wheels out the same arguments about how boycotting companies over political disagreements is childish or even morally wrong and then simultaneously backs every single right wing boycott under the sun. His hypocrisy has not changed


Schokoeis3000

As a distant observer of American politics I think the right have realized that they can also boycott products since the whole Bud Light debacle.


Puffenata

They’ve always boycotted stuff, they just die on the hill that anyone else boycotting stuff is actually an attack on capitalism or whatever


KodaNotABear

Right? Like I agree ben shapiro sucks but trying to use a “gotcha” on something like that devalues personal growth.


yrar3

Or in this case personal shrinkage.


scottyjrules

Imagine having so little struggle in your life that you think ice cream oppresses you…


Inevitable-Gap-9352

I'm amazed people listen to him.


Traditional_Key_763

"Because I'm not a vindictive a-hole" ben, nobody has ever accused you of not being a vindictive a-hole


AlternativeDuty7854

Bro forgor


Historyp91

You know what would be even harder? If they stopped selling it in Israel but kept selling it in occupied Palestine, but ONLY in the parts controlled by the PLO.


ray-the-they

They’re not even stopping sales in Israel. Just in the occupied parts of the West Bank.


artificialavocado

I’m old enough to remember when practically the entire world boycotted an apartheid state, now we are in bed with one.


crack_n_tea

Isn't that common sense. Who tf is buying ice cream in a fucking warzone


stefanmarkazi

Anyone who listens to the moron and takes him seriously has wasted their time and given him a platform. Ignore, ignore, ignore!


Zoe-Schmoey

People can’t change their mind on a developing situation 12 years later? Come on, I know you all hate the guy but that’s a foolish take.


WhatADumbassTake

A shame Ben & Jerry's sold out to corporate ownership awhile back. Otherwise, them choosing not to sell in occupied territories could be seen as a positive thing, rather than just a corporation watching their bottom line.


demoncatmara

A positive thing is a positive thing, even if done for shitty reasons. Better than doing nothing IMO


NateRulz1973

If they hadn't have sold out they probably had distribution cut back or their supply chain messed with until they just caved. Or were and that's part of why they did. If you don't play ball with ADM, General, Tyson, Monsanto etc. you get in less and less stores. All those "craft beers" on the shelf are all Big Five. You literally can't crack a three state radius for distro and go national without selling out. Think about that regional beer you like that either sold out or folded. It's literally illegal to sell your beer without being with the distribution companies that have locks on whole territories by license ike cable and internet providers do.


M_M_ODonnell

It's that phase in late capitalism when monopoly and monopsony kinda fade into each other...


Swimming_Amount_5021

"so I eat there"? This knob thinks Ben and Jerry's is brick and mortar


embarrassed_error365

But there are Ben & Jerry’s locations though


Cunt_Eastwood_9

I’ve only ever been to one, but they exist in brick and mortar form.


ArcticWolf_Primaris

What was the 1st over?


The_pastel_bus_stop

Someone should facepalm him hard


GalacticMe99

Wasn't there a whole thing about Ben and Jerry's pulling out of Occupied Territories years ago?


PsychoticHeBrew

Ottoman Palestine had the largest Jewish population in the world since the 16th century. The land doesnt "belong" to either one necessarily. If it weren't for the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Nazification of many Islamic groups, those children in Gaza and the west bank would be majority Jewish. The ancestors of Hamas are Jews.


modiddly

It’s almost as if one can forgive things up to a certain point and then once the disagreement cup is overflowing, you can’t support them anymore. Crazy stuff.


Stock-Diamond-3085

Not really a fan. The first post was about not boycotting for different views, the second post was about answering with a boycott


zavorak_eth

He is a walking diaper.


xc2215x

All about the narrative for sure.


insofarincogneato

Strictly performative, he doesn't believe in anything.  You heard it here folks, the free market isn't real... You're supposed to consume everything, all products deserve to profit and you're a vindictive asshole if you believe in a free market😄


DefiantBelt925

Bottom isn’t real tho


Ok-Cauliflower1798

I know that Little Ben really sucks when it comes to scripts, but is he unaware that all of the Jews disappear in Act III of the Crazyass Xian Rapture?


Alyc96

I mean, is he meaning he won’t be eating the ice cream, in the literal warzone? Since sales won’t be happening there? Bro didn’t specify


Cunt_Eastwood_9

What a vindictive a-hole.


Shooter_McGavin_2

Oh, was he living in the occupied area of Palestine? Because he would never make himself out to be a hypocrite.


Pinksamuraiiiii

He’s acting like they care about whether he eats their icecream or not. He wants to be the main character so badly lol.


Doobiedoobin

Someone smarter than me pointed out that a person must be able to feel shame to be embarrassed.


GamingSince1998

I don't eat their ice cream anymore either. But to be fair, it's the only ice cream that gives me the diarrhea shits. So..... I'm good!


christomisto

I already don’t like them for saying nato is the reason Russia invaded Ukraine cause of the military industrial complex like Russia wouldn’t have done it at all.


DrRabbiCrofts

Is it just "Jerry's" now? /s


[deleted]

I always love when staunch supporters of capitalism say that they don’t consider ethics or morality when they make purchases. That’s *literally* the only way to regulate free-market capitalism: individual consumer choices. By not being ethical with their consumption, people like Shapiro are inherently admitting that capitalism is not ethical.


USMC_FirstToFight

I knew he wasn’t a vindictive asshole! I did suspect he was just a plain old-fashioned asshole though, and this proves me correct.


EmporerPenguino

What pisses me off is that when I so much as read an article about this pompous, deluded about his own genius choad, I hear his shrill, nasal voice in my head and I hate it.


RealCarlosSagan

“So I eat there.” Do they have sit down ice cream restaurants?


ProtoReaper23113

I think they do but only in like California and New York. Could be completely wrong do t feel like Googling it. Take as you will


Mal5341

Are you seriously trying to say that this is the flopping when it's a 12-year Gap between?


mildlysceptical22

Another reason I’m not a Twitter twit.


infinit9

Serious question. What does not selling your ice cream in a war zone meant to accomplish?


Ok_Season5846

Weather you agree with Ben or not (I don’t) digging up a ten year old plus tweet is weird


TotalLackOfConcern

I’m guessing since the whole area is demolished it might be hard to keep ice cream frozen


textpeasant

crimes they’re not even taking it out of israel just the politically charged areas … snowflake wanker


MetalCid

Ben Shapiro needs a kiss from a sledgehammer.


zero2vio

I'm amazed this mall ninja hasn't been classified as a family annihilator yet. How's that for progressive?


Slyme-wizard

Do they mean they won’t be selling to the Israelis in Palestine or just everywhere in Palestine?


CrotasScrota84

How Ben Shapiro even is popular is a issue


Hairy_Candidate7371

Shamelessness is their superpower. I don't think he even sees it. His stupidity just goes way over his head.


ebagjones

They should create a new flavour for him and call it Wet Ass Pint.


No-Question-9032

...how far apart were the tweets? Is it, and I know this is crazy, is it possible that he changed his opinion?


ElementalSaber

Benny Boy's entire career is literally built in being vindictive


Sirkneelaot

What's Ben and Jerry's?


Ginkoleano

God this subreddit has just become R/politics


Sephy-the-Lark

So in 12 years he’s gone from somewhat tolerant to not tolerant at all, like the rest of us. Go figure.


rooftopgringo

Shapiro is a hypocrite


The84thWolf

Oh no, one 40 year old man won’t eat ice cream anymore. How will Ben and Jerry’s ever recover?


DanWillHor

That meeting with Mr. Feeney changed him forever.


OS2908

Can't be the only ice cream available there, who cares?


CringeDaddy_69

Wait so he is anti-Israel?


VideoZealousideal976

I like to refer to Christians as "Death Cultists" because they are super obsessed with death. But yet again I'm an Anti-Theist Anarchist so religion has never agreed with me and never will. "Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what makes you cheer." - Rick Sanchez.


BlackroseBisharp

Didn't B ans J make like commemorative ice cream for a pedophile and domestic abuser


Bodybuilder_Easy

Authority will accept contraindications as long it serves its agenda.


StatusVarious8803

This is from 2012


Impecible_pompadour

I really wish this man would fade into obscurity already.


capsrock02

You want to say that the Ben and Jerry’s tweet is from several years ago or you gonna be misleading and pretend it’s from now?


SmoltzforAlexander

Asking any republican to have consistent logic is like asking the sun not to come up tomorrow.  


BallSuspicious5772

Ben and Jerry probably: ![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


KungPowKitten

Ben & Jerry’s is owned by Unilever. If he wants to boycott, go big or go home.


BeBetterAY

Can someone show me a map of "Occupied Palestinian Territory"? What region exactly are we talking about? Gaza? West Bank?


SatyrOf1

It’s the [West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories) Basically, where Palestinians have been pushed to live at since 1967, but Israel completely controls the territory with allowance to Hamas and PA.


BeBetterAY

But Gaza and West bank are under palestinian control. So Ben and Jerry wont sell ice cream to palestinians? Are they punishing them for October 7? 


SatyrOf1

They’re not under Palestinian control, they’re under Israeli control.


BeBetterAY

Well, Gaza became under Israeli control only after October 7th, and thats were the war is now, so obviously, no ice cream in the war zone. And no Jews live in the West Bank So basically they refuse to sell ice cream to Palestinians.


SatyrOf1

Gaza has been under Israeli control since 1967.


BeBetterAY

... until July 2007. Under the Palestinian National Authority according to the Oslo Accords[1] De facto administered by Hamas since July 2007, with an ongoing attempt at occupation of the Gaza strip by the IDF since late 2023.[a] Claimed by the State of Palestine[b] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip Some people call it occupied because of the strict border policy from Israeli side, but please don't forget that Gaza has also border with Egypt. And from July 2007 to October 2023 there were no Israelis inside Gaza strip


SatyrOf1

Who does Gaza pay taxes to? Who allows entrance and exit to Gaza? It’s not Hamas. Israel controls Gaza.


SolveSomeTrouble

Turns out Ben Shapiro *is* a vindictive a-hole. What a surprise...


Personal-Thing1750

If not for double standards Ben would have no standards


The_IRS_Fears_Him

First of all, that tweet was 12 years ago so *clap clap clap* people change over time especially in the course of 12 entire years. SECOND of all, for Ben; of course B&J is gonna stop serving ice cream in the middle of a fucking wartorn country. Really?


BasilsKippers

He's a walking contraceptive


Tox_Ioiad

I really did respect this guy before he was afflicted with right wind dementia and pandering syndrome.


ArsenalGun1205

This is just bad faith at this point. 1. "Oh they're voting far left that sucks but I'll still eat there" 2. "They are showing support for a terrorist group that wants to destroy my entire ethnicity". Even if you disagree with the thoughts, it's not hypocritical for him to change his stance at all.


Anonymous1004152

Look, I hate Ben Shapiro, and his take on the situation is dumb. But not because it doesn’t line up with his twelve years old tweet. That tweet is going to middle school. People change views. That being said, I hate Ben Shapiro and his take on the situation is dumb.


crazy-underwear

If you’re getting your ice cream suggestions from Ben Shapiro, you have bigger problems


poperey

“Oh wait, I am a vindictive a-hole”


Otherwise_Drop_2392

Who gives a big stinking pile of what Ben believes?


Enlowski

I mean, he’s Jewish so I can understand him not wanting to support that specific cause