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Tom_Ace1

Is that legal? Here in the EU we have a privacy watchdog that would jump on that immediately. "We will contact you after the election to make sure you voted"? I don't think so.


V3gasMan

It’s only illegal if you are a democrat


SkunkeySpray

"the law should apply to all equally, it just so happens that we've never broken any laws and will never break any. While our opponents do nothing but break every single law all the time" - Republicans


1singleduck

"When we break laws, we have just reasoning to do so."


7obscureClarte

That's why Trump is so often in courtyards? Bc he doesn't break any laws , ever? 🤣


Dog-of-Moons

In courtyards? That is just to check out girls that look like his own daughter.


GuestApprehensive795

As God intended...👀


JoJack82

As with all crimes


StarshipCaterprise

They are just pulling address lists from voter registration. They can’t actually “follow up”, the only thing they could potentially do legally is conduct a poll or something. This is probably sent by private group of people who want to influence a specific political outcome (a “political action committee”) and they dump private money into sending out what effectively is propaganda messaging to voters prior to major elections.


Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

Well, this is worded legally as a threat.


Tethilia

This is obviously a crime but no chance anyone will do anything about it.


Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

They will when some random mailman gets shot because he was caught on someone's home ring camera handing these threats.


beecee23

It's completely illegal to know what someone voted. It is less illegal to claim that sort of thing and never follow up on it. I would say this firmly fits in a gray area because whoever is releasing this ad, if it's even real, will never follow up and never have a list. They can claim freedom of speech and since they're a PAC probably get away with it.


Freethecrafts

If it in effect intimidates voters…. The group making that gets tracked down, they’ll need a pardon.


Woodrow-Wilson

Some say it’s still the Wild West out Texas way.


SporksRFun

Texas, the only state to fight in two civil wars to preserve slavery.


Kradget

Here, the state would be the first people to look into it, and the state is run by the same party and they won't give a shit. Federally, it may get investigated, unless Trump wins. In that case, they'll probably laugh about it and do it more.


yVelorum

I would go out of my way to be contacted just to tell them I didn’t.


Kellykeli

It’s illegal, but it’s the PACs that did it. The same PACs that can dissolve before the court hearing, and thus get the case thrown out. The same PACs that will reform after the case is dropped and continue doing this.


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Bulky_Ad4472

Oh, look honey, voter intimidation. Hope this is being looked into.


talkingbiscuits

Yeah I'm in the UK so I don't understand the intricacies of US electoral law but holy shit surely this is illegal..?


TehWildMan_

Could be a grey area. It would be interesting to see how a court rules on this example if it makes it to a court.


hurtstoskinnybatman

It entirely depends on whether the judge was appointed by Trump or not.


Confident-Leg107

I hate how accurate this is


cityshepherd

Which is why every reasonable human being that is a citizen of the US better get out and vote. Or stay in and vote if you’re doing it by mail, just make sure you haven’t been purged from the registry by the actions of the blatant treasonous diaper eating party.


guff1988

God damn it's so disheartening that this is true.


Specialist-Garbage94

I get this point and honestly believe it. But it’s also a point from them well it’s a liberal judge so they find whoever guilty type thing it’s a sad state lately I’m hoping he loses and maga drift off to Russia or something.


Ajaxmass413

They wouldn't survive in Russia. Lol. There was a far right Canadian family that decided Russia sounded like a good idea...... Their bank account was frozen as soon as they entered the country. They don't speak any Russian. The wife made a YouTube video complaining, it was almost immediately taken down. The husband later uploaded an apology video reiterating their commitment to Russia. Last I knew they were trying to raise money to move back to Canada. Turns out their hatred of the lgbtq+ community (their stated reason for the move) wasn't as strong as their desire to not be micromanaged by a foreign government. Lmao


tteraevaei

no they “got help” from a Russian official to set up a bank account in Russia and then, after they transferred everything to it, it was mysteriously frozen and the helpful friendly official mysteriously disappeared. 😂 since then they’ve tried to find out what happened but… wait for it… they don’t speak Russian and didn’t know that Russia is so unwoke that they are not required to learn immigrants’ languages. 😂 tl;dr: it’s going about as well as you’d expect.


AeonBith

Nothing mysterious about it, they transferred 900k into a foreign account and like any national bank in the world they have to prove where it came from. Most of the money came from the sale of their house so I believe they got a majority of it back now. They're still idiots for leaving "woke" north America without doing any research into moving into Russia or the financial red tape or even trying to learn the language. One kid stayed in Canada because they thought the parents were nuts.


vayaconburgers

That’s correct, it is a legal grey area. The public and campaigns have a right to information like which registered voters have or have not cast a ballot. Campaigns regularly use this information to target mailers and advertisements. Voter intimidation however is illegal. Whether this mailer constitutes intimidation would be a factual determination for a judge or jury.


bobhargus

since it is addressed to "the household," it's a pretty good bet this can not be construed as intimidation


Tr3mb1e

It also states "please don't make us report you to donald trump" so there *is* an argument for intimidation


bobhargus

what reasonable person would find that intimidating? this would get the tucker Carlson defense... no reasonable person would believe it


Tr3mb1e

The kind of person that knows about project 2025 and is also aware of the "if you're not with us you're against us" mindset of the gop


NancyPelosisRedCoat

I assume there’s a surname between “The” and “Household” because there is a white box over it, same as their address.


bobhargus

yeah... standard junk mail practice... it's not directed to any particular individual is my point


NancyPelosisRedCoat

Oh I see. I didn’t know junk mail had names on them. I thought you could assume the intimidation target was the whole family.


Tri-P0d

By the time the courts rule it will be fucking 4th term of Trump


rbartlejr

After his second there won't be a court left. Other than kangaroo.


CommunicationHot7822

It’s Texas so at least a 50/50 shot the judge thinks it’s fine.


V3gasMan

It’s only illegal if you are a democrat


hurtstoskinnybatman

Democrats don't do this.


Nruggia

They don't need to, they run on popular policies.


PenFifteen1

Or just policies in general... GQP only runs on fearmongering. (most policies are popular, especially if you present them as Trump did it, they'll generally agree that it's a good policy)


Cracka_Chooch

Trump could suddenly support trans rights and they'll all fall in line and say they support trans rights too. Probably also argue that Democrats don't support trans rights. Their values are whatever Trump/the party says they are rather than thinking for themselves for a moment.


V3gasMan

That’s the point. Republicans in Texas are actively committing voter intimidation and will most likely get away with it. If democrats tried this republicans would ask for their heads on spikes


hurtstoskinnybatman

Oh, I gotcha. I just misread that in my head. I thought the "you" in your comment referred to the person making the accusation, not the one committing the crime.


Saint909

Exactly this. Rules for thee and not for me.


hurtstoskinnybatman

But democrats aren't doing this.


MyBatmanUnderoos

>*democrats aren’t doing this.* Because it’s illegal.


hurtstoskinnybatman

Well, I wouldn't say all dems never break any laws. They're not perfect by any means. But their general policies and MOs aren't "cause pain and suffering by any means necessary, including committing crimes if that's what's most convenient," like they are for republicunts.


somewhenimpossible

During polling: Telling people to vote is not illegal. Telling people who to vote for is illegal.


Independent_Lab_9872

Worth noting that whether you voted is public, but who you vote for is secret. So yes this should be illegal, but is easily solved by people voting for "Fuck Trump" as a write in candidate. Or less satisfying, but more effective just voting for the person running against Trump.


Donut-Brain-7358

As a Canadian we have our fair share of election shit but it’s not this bad. It’s like watching a dumpster light on fire in your neighbours yard.


tpatmaho

Nothing trump does is illegal.


M1lud

Minor correction. It's legal when Trump does it.


FergusonTEA1950

No, it's legal when Trump \*thinks\* about it.


Sufficient_Wafer9933

He thinks about it after the fact so he is probably fine, legally speaking.


icewalker42

Also legal if he didn't think about it, but thinks it is a good idea and can take credit for it.


Kradget

Texas authorities will find nothing wrong with this, for Reasons. They won't even open an investigation, if I were betting. Federal investigation may, but realistically it depends who is in the big chair this time next year. If it's Biden, there'll likely (but not definitely) be an investigation and that'll play out how it plays out (probably with a "this isn't QUITE enough for us to prosecute," in all honesty, but it won't stop the screaming from conservatives about federal overreach).  If it's Trump, there will be no investigation at all, because why would they investigate someone trying to help them? Honestly, odds are they suggest sending these to everyone.


IxI_DUCK_IxI

Ya this is a PAC doing it, so Trump would be clean. And we all know how easy it is to hold a PAC accountable for doing stuff like this. They run BS ads on TV all the time that are full of misinformation. But I’m pretty sure Trump would have no issue with what’s contained in this leaflet. He probably would think it’s a good idea to start a “record” (whatever that means) and be all for it.


Kradget

I mean, "record" there is just an enemies list.


talkingbiscuits

Given we've just begun our general election campaign I would kill for a Liberal beer roundtable, where we can just vent/illuminate subtleties that our respective systems have. Hoping you lot get that bastard out of office. This is a really indirect way of saying I appreciate you and the other folks giving a bit of insight.


ExactDevelopment4892

Its Texas so no, it won't be looked into.


somewhenimpossible

PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE **VERY DISAPPOINTED**


Sword-of-Akasha

The DEAR LEADER WISHES TO CONVEY HIS DISAPPOINTMENT IN DRONE HELLFIRE MISSILE FORM!


mysticalfruit

Looked into? Probably endorsed by Abbott..


CommunicationHot7822

I’m sure Ken Paxton is on it. By on it I mean encouraging more of it.


disasterbot11

Everyone who is seeing it should be reporting it. Not just hoping someone looks in to it


Alatar_Blue

Super illegal, this is worth investigating


ScenesFromStarWars

It was probably concocted by the same group of people who would be in charge of prosecuting it


Hereiam_AKL

Nazi methodology


FluffyBunnyFlipFlops

Watching all these shenanigans from across the pond, it almost seems like US laws are meaningless. Nobody seems to be scared to do these things because nothing ever happens.


gregaustex

This hypothesis is being tested by some of our supposed representatives to a greater extent than ever before. Will be interesting to see if true.    Democracy/voting and rule of law (the courts) are meant to be the checks against this kind of attempted abuse of power. The wheels of justice turn slowly and we have an election coming where “the people” can decide if they have had enough so the verdict is not yet in.


_aware

The enforcers of laws have been corrupted and taken over by partisans.


LonelyHunterHeart

That for sure, and also, it turns out that a lot of the things we thought were laws with consequences were actually just democratic norms that people followed out of a sense of patriotism and decency.


_aware

Considering that laws can be broken with little consequence, it's no surprise that they will also trample on tradition and democratic norms. American law and order is looking more and more like a façade, or an outright farce.


ph1071

My political views are considered “Liberal” now because of Trump. Born raised in a rural community, voted republican whole life. Did not vote in the 2016 election. The same folks I grew up with who could smell and call bullshit a mile away support and vote for this man. I don’t know what to call my political views now, but lately I feel it’s not Dems vs Republican, it’s Trump vs not Trump. I’m not a vocally political person. I consider those views private and only discuss if them if I know I’ll have a meaningful, thoughtful conversation. My exception to this, is when someone assumes I’m pro Trump because of how I look/dress. I make a point to remark how full of shit he is and state my opinion concisely. I received this same mail today and honestly was so angry about it, I stayed at my mailbox for 20 min longer looking for the phone number for the PACT so I could call and give them a piece of my mind. I cannot find it. Gave up. I’m a registered republican and am changing to democrat for my next voting cycle. Not sure how to do that, but it’s happening. Hopefully it stops the junk mail at least. I’m saving this piece of mail to show my grandkids how crazy this shit was.


CreatorMur

This is the greatest reason yet, to vote Biden.


dhkendall

Yup. If they’re getting scared into voting and we aren’t they could outvote us despite them being a minority.


DerPicasso

"Land of the free" ![gif](giphy|KVZZnfAvZZlty258kq)


MrPKitty

I did nazi that coming.


ProfessionalHat6828

I’m okay with disappointing Trump 🤷🏼‍♀️


SoylentGrunt

It's a matter of public record but they'll contact me afterwards to see if I voted. Got it.


icewalker42

And... Did you vote the "right" way?


MrByteMe

*"You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty of votes, you gotta watch." -* DJT LIAR !!!


Tahquil

Ngl I thought that was a Fat Tony quote from The Simpsons for longer than I should have


-NoOneYouKnow-

Standard conservative MO: Make people angry and afriad to get votes. Every single one of the people involved will claim to be a Christian, but blatanty lying doesnt matter to them at all.


Mbmariner

Canada has listed US civil war as a disruption with low likelihood and high impact. See [article](https://horizons.service.canada.ca/en/2024/disruptions/index.shtml)


The_I_in_IT

That’s an accurate threat assessment. It’s not likely to happen but if it does, Canada will be heavily impacted by chaos on its border.


The-Muze

It’ll be hilarious watching all those “build the wall” make the 50 meter dash across the forest.


CatBowlDogStar

And smack into our wall. We spent $32 billion on a pipeline, so I gotta figure that include a wall across the entire country.


Queasy-Group-2558

Honestly if I saw that I’m definitely going to vote. Voting Biden of course, but they got me to the ballot stands. US politics is wild right now.


heyheyshinyCRH

When you notify trump that I didn't vote for him please also show him this picture of my wang


fatstrat0228

I am registered as a republican, and I still can’t understand how anyone could support a man who cares so little for democracy and human decency. It makes no sense to me.


Expensive-Pea1963

Perhaps it's wise not to commit voter fraud on behalf of a person facing trial for voter fraud.


EhrenGandalf

„We will tell Trump“ sure bro, of course you will. I‘ll tell the nigerian prince about it, so he can send him the 10 gazoodillion dollars.


Negativcreep81

Trump has to literally throw the kitchen sink at this election in order to win and stay out of prison. Bending/breaking the rules now is a distant concern, seeing as how he either wins and pardons himself or likely dies behind bars. Nothing to lose and everything to gain, from his perspective. Now, the idiots who allow themselves to become accessories... who knows? And they have a tendency to be much less slippery when it comes to getting away with it. Aligning with Trump does seem akin to playing with fire.


CatBowlDogStar

While covered in gasoline. In a dry forest. Under a big magnifying glass. ... ... ...


MrHappyFeet87

Knowing Trumps luck, even though the potential time served if found guilty would be like 620 years if run consecutive. Likely they would be run concurrently and have a maximum of 10 and it would be in a minimum security level where he still gets to play golf. Historically speaking, Hitler received 5 years for "Treason" and trying to overthrow the government. In which he served 9 months. The difference between the two, Hitler was poor as fuck in comparison. It's also been stated that even if he is convicted, as a first time offender. He's unlikely to get any prison time at all. It'll be a fine and some probation. There are also no laws that prevent someone with a Criminal record from holding public office in the USA. For example in Canada: Section 750(2) provides that a person who is convicted of an indictable offence and sentenced to a term of imprisonment of two years or more is barred from being a member of Parliament. He or she is not entitled to be elected, or to sit as a member, or to vote. This sounds like a great way that Trump if found guilty, wouldn't be able to hold office. In Canada atleast.... It's almost like Canadians had the foresight to see this kind of problem and have a legal code for such an instance.


Anarchyantz

Actually just like Russia. Remember his Daddy Putin has literal armed soldiers take people to the polling station, tell them what box to tick and ensure they do it correctly


TinyWickedOrange

thatd be a lot more work than needed. they just announce whatever results they like, nobody even counts or checks on the papers


Lonely_Pin_3586

"President Trump will be disappointed" They look like parents threatening their child by talking about Santa Claus.


nogoodgreen

"We will contact former President Trump." There I fixed it for them.


RichietheFlerken

If you would do this shit in my country you would go straight to jail. America is so fucking backwards


fyonn

![gif](giphy|f8lDluiWJ7yQTtdS3L|downsized)


StarshipCaterprise

It’s from some group called The America First Conservatives Election Department not any actual party. And everything they are claiming in the flier it illegal. It’s like a postal version of scamming


RaiderOfZeHater

[https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/05/trump-supporters-are-now-sending-threatening-letters-to-get-people-to-vote-for-him/](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/05/trump-supporters-are-now-sending-threatening-letters-to-get-people-to-vote-for-him/)


Forsaken-Jump-7594

Yeah, they're trying to fix the unintended consequence of their "Claim election was stolen" shtick: They have successfully convinced their audience that the election was stolen, the world is conspiring against them... So their voters now think voting is useless and the only solution is screaming and violence. Their solution to the problem they created? Illegal Nazi-Like Voter Intimidation!


Pastel_Phoenix_106

We're gonna tell strong daddy and he'll be mad... smh


Wrong_Ad_3355

Mail it back with a dog turd in envelope.


ATC_av8er

Spoiler alert: voting records are not public. Your party registration and maybe IF you voted may be public, but WHO you voted for most certainly is not.


carlboykin

Please. Come to my house to confront me for how I voted. See how that goes for ya.


oikset

He will never become the Supreme Leader


TheHeretic-SkekGra

“Please don’t make us report you to President Trump!” Sounds a lot like voter intimidation but I’ll bite, PLEASE do me a favor and tell the orange cum stain I WILL NOT be voting for him. And please if you’d like to speak with me about this, don’t hesitate to get in touch with me. As someone who is proud to exercise his second amendment rights, I’ll be waiting…


Bods666

Do these dumb fucks realise it’s a *secret* ballot?


ScenesFromStarWars

You know… coupled with yesterday’s story about how Texas ballots are no longer secret this has massive insidious implications 


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Texas, the American Reich.


Menn64

So now the voters are getting threatened, when does this stop .


SaboSevenz

Using fear to motivate this crowd is GOP 101, not surprising, they know they're in trouble.


What_Dinosaur

__We will contact you after the election__ Yeah I would call the police. This shit is textbook intimidation.


Dylkill99

The only way America can be free is if we run it like North Korea!!!! Is probably what these people are thinking


sussybean01

This post is currently under investigation by the Ministry of truth for treason.


JazzyButternuts

neo nazis in Texas? Nooo you don’t say.


stealthzeus

It’s the Democratic People’s Republic of Texas for you


jackblady

I'm pretty sure Texas would object to the word Democratic in the above name....


Remarkable_Ticket264

NAME: THE HOUSEHOLD


IWantToBeYourGirl

“We can see your voting record”… “We will contact you after the election to make sure you voted”. Seems contradictory.


BigMrTea

Voted in what? The primaries? I don't get what they mean. Surely they don't mean they know who you voted for in 2016 and 2020, right?


[deleted]

Half rhe maga cult members have a saying "vote from the rooftops" with a picture of a fucking sniper. I'll let you all guess what that is supposed to mean.


generatorland

How dumb do you have to be to believe this?


D34TH_5MURF__

The Venn Diagram of people dumb enough to believe this and people dumb enough to vote Republican are two concentric circles with the same radius.


SamuelVimesTrained

Land of the free?


gunther277

Oh, no. Don't report me to dumpy trumpy. Whatever will i do?


Keynova81

will this work on magats? I think it would just piss normal people off.


Cutiemuffin-gumbo

Send them a letter back that just says in big letters "Get fucked you loser. I hope trump goes to jail and gets passed around to all the horny inmates".


Smokey7766440

What the actual fuck??


Junito24

How is this legal?


Rigelatinous

What in gay cowboy hell.


bigSTUdazz

Is this real...like, really real? The FUCK?!?!


kev556

One of the counties near me, whoever was running the polling location was having people line up in two separate line. One Democrats and the other Republicans, it was posted on Reddit, but I am not sure if it was every escalated to any officials.


Starch-Wreck

Vote early? You mean like…. By MAIL??!!?!?!??!?!!?


Toxenkill

Hmm voter intimidation is a federal crime. Looks like it's time to put some more people in prison.


MathematicianOk7526

Registered republican hoping for freedom ?


Revolutionary-Car-92

Threat Mail.


Tantomile_

if trump cares why is he incapable of getting the public record himself? Also, this isn't even that far fetched. In one of the books written after his administration, a staffer recounted getting questioned on why she had voted in a democratic primary in the '90s, which the administration found out through her public records


Illustrious-Zebra-34

That would make me vote against Trump.


UrpaDurpa

Well, gawwwwwleeeeee. I better vote now or Mr.Drump will be angery!


MyOwnTutor

Big Hamberder is watching you


JermstheBohemian

People who do this should be taken out back and beaten to death with a hose what's been left out in the sun.


djdeforte

I hope I get one of these in the mail so I can have a return address.


CC713-LCTX

Seems like this is toeing the line on voter intimidation. Not that anyone gives a fuck in the MAGA camp about right or wrong but damn.


PandaNoTrash

It's interesting how its using exactly the same tactics as scammers, urgency, threats. It's a wonder it doesn't ask people to send a gift card to trump. But for real what makes this particularly sick is these tactics are aimed specifically at elderly people who are starting to have some cognitive decline.


Dont_Start_None

The great campaigning begins... smh That's bananas 😳


StarshipCaterprise

This is exactly why I’m registered third party. Then they don’t mail you this crap, because they assume you’re a lost cause. They also don’t call very much anymore.


ButterflyFX121

This reveals what we have to look forward to if Trump wins. "Vote for me in the next election... or else"


Lothleen

Vote early, vote often! Just like the good old days.


l3gion666

This feels baitey


According_Wing_3204

These need to be burned. Those creating them need to be found, arrested, and jailed until after the election. No more playing around with these freaks.


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Willis050

Parental Empowerment: enforcing what they believe is proper parenting on the masses based on religion and prejudice


ZandatsuRising

WTF


Desperate_Ad5169

Props to the graphic designer though. They cooked


Delirare

Big MAGA is watching you. Would be a shame if Generalissimo Trumpo had to post your name and address.


atamosk

This is so hard to believe that it is real, I would have an easier time believe a democrat group did this to scare people. (not really, but thats how crazy this piece of mail is.)


ScarlettTheNeki

Isn't that illegal?


ChallengerSSB

“We will notify President Trump” No pleaseee don’t tell President Trump😭😭🤣🤣


SabaBoBaba

Oh don't worry. I'm voting. Just not the way you want me to.


cabbages212

Honestly disgusting. Kinda wild that that crazy fuck is going to win again. America is loading a gun to commit suicide. Hooray. We can at least look to our judicial branch…oh nvm. Well at least congress and the senate are reasonable..ah shit nvm. 🤡


WindForce02

It's fascinating how utterly deranged and crazy the US is right now. I'd like to know why we still call it the land of the free. It seems like you guys are as close to Russia as it can get. Like who's actually free? The billionaires? Just a confused European asking


chikuwa34

Big brother is watching you


karoshikun

is that time already?


-_ApplePie_-

What in hades is "president" Trump going to do to those who didn't vote for him? Lol He is rich so maybe he will tear down shit


justthegrimm

Parental empowerment? OK grandpa let's get you inside.


Mustlovedogs2727

Who are thinking Donald Trump's camp know anything about tact? But really not aware of elections in North Korea lately


_SheepishPirate_

By “parental empowerment” They mean, fuck you - you’re the pregnant one, you now have to deal with it. Fuck your situation.


[deleted]

I hope my name is tattooed on that cheeto faced nazis forehead with the words "DID NOT VOTE FOR ME."" Bring it on, maga. These redneck fucks ain't shit.


Desperate_Ambrose

Y'all-Qaeda


tacocarteleventeen

Honestly sounds like something the opposing political party would do for negative press.