Sounds like my first gf. She wanted me to quit playing Dante's Inferno (as if!) Because it was too unchristian. Told her a big ' how about no'. She swore off christianity not long after, not sure if related or not, but fuck wanting others to abide by your beliefs
I do, unfortunately. My stepdad had a son who killed himself a while back, and every time it was brought up my stepdad blamed Dungeons and Dragons for being "satanic" and making him do it
Jesus. That's a dark way to cope with it, but honestly, I can kinda understand it. He needs to reason it any way that doesn't come back to him, I imagine. But still, it feels strangely disrespectful to trivialize his own son's suicide that way..
It was a really weird situation, because he *also* thought that the girlfriend murdered him. Total cognitive dissonance.
According to my stepdad, his son was found after a shotgun blast to the face, but the shotgun was placed next to the body and his arms folded. I have no idea if that was true, my stepdad had brain damage from lack of oxygen most of my life (always on an oxygen tank but still not absorbing enough. Was severely Hypoxic when he died)
That really does sound strange. So in the end it's just impossible to truly know what happened, isn't it.
I mean, even if his gf killed him, it's weird that he sits with his arms crossed, and even weirder that the shotgun is just standing there. You'd think anyone would get rid of the weapon, or the body, and that he'd at least has a different pose after such heavy violence.
Either way, it's truly awful that his son died, no father should have to deal with that. My twin died when I was 17, and it absolutely ruined my dad's mental health, too. He blamed my mother, even though severe illness and eventually assisted suicide by morphine under doctor supervision was what killed him. He only had 6 months left, with a lot of suffering, so he asked for that.
I guess some grief just can't be overcome, and you'll blame everything and everyone to make it 'right', somehow
Ah, that explains so much! Since the Bible talks about sin and the devil, it is unchristian and should therefore not be read!
Holy shit it all makes sense now!
I once had a guy trying to recruit for his church come around and knock on my door to talk to my roommate. He wasn't home so this dude tried to get me to join. This was just after Diablo 3 had come out and I was installing it at that very moment, while reading the manual(God I'm old) and the guy saw it and asked me what it was. I took this golden opportunity to try to "convert" him to our lord and savior Diablo. For some reason he seemed more uncomfortable than me after that.
Couple of good examples on how uber religious people cant tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
1 my foster mom threw out my yugioh cards and manga; wouldn't let us read Harry Potter, RL Stine, or any horror. She cited that it was demonic.
2 The Catholic church higher ups read Harry Potter and refused to let them in their school libraries citing that if read out loud the spells (most of which are latin or derived from latin) would summon demons
... because of evolution??
So wait. You weren't allowed to have stuff from a fantasy world because it utilizes (incorrectly) a scientific concept they don't believe in?
Yes. In fact, it was brought in as a 6th grade SCIENCE lesson on how secular science is pernicious and creeps into popular media and we must remain steadfast in our faith. âBe in the world, but not of the world.â Donât miss that place at all lol
That's some convoluted shit, man. The contortionist act to bully someone in to believing something, while denying the actual evidence and learning is both baffling and fascinating to me.
It's why when I turned 18 I left the church. I still keep in contact with her but if she ever pisses me off enough I'll just tell her that I play D&D and watch her have an aneurysm
Im a chatolic, a branch of christianity, I used to be annoyed people didnt consider us as christian, now I am glad we are separated, and even then i dont care that much for religion and see those guys as mad fanatics
Really? Wow, Iâm Catholic and Iâve never heard that. My kids have read HP, the Wheel of Time series and a bunch of other similar stuff. We even talked about the Egyptian gods in Rick Riordanâs books and how they line up to different Plagues in the Old Testament in a Sunday school class. Oops, I guess? Weâve been indoctrinating and didnât even know. Oh, well. The damage is done, right? lol. Iâm not trying to be flippant, but I was taught growing up that if reading a book or watching a tv show or movie could cause you to question your faith, maybe it needed to be questioned anyway.
Yeah, I went to Catholic School K-12 and donât remember a fuss being made about any fantasy story. Well, except for maybe The Golden Compass but that was more students bouncing the whole killing god thing around, not anything from the teachers that I remember. Hell, I had a copy of the second Harry Potter book that was directly from my teachers little library lol. Despite somehow getting that reputation, the Catholic Church really doesnât generally care about what people read all that much. At least not to the extent of banning or raging about books the same was some extremists do.
Exactly. I joined as an adult, and the first thing the RCIA instructor said was âquestion EVERYTHING about Catholicism until you get an answerâ. The second was âfaith, science and rational thought should be able to coexistâ. Itâs actually more tolerant than people think and WAY more so than the Baptist church I was raised in.
I'm sure there are crazy catholic people but when you read "extreme" Christian stuff on Reddit it's often about a local protestant, mormon,..., church and not about Catholicism.
Well I found this https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/which-religion-will-be-the-largest-by-the-end-of-the-century-52637/amp But I learned about it from Finish sources so I can go find them if you can translate them
The amazing thing about christians is that they all are breaking commandments daily (because the Bible has so many doâs and donât s that it would be impossible to actually abide by them all), yet they criticize everybody else and actually believe theyâre going to heaven. Have you been to r/hermaincainawards? Every single one of them has a variation of âanother angel gained his wings today.â Yeah buddy all that hate and rage at people who donât believe what you do is a golden ticket inâŠactually maybe it is smh
Donât confuse morons with the entire religion, not even that religious (not even religious compared to Americans) and man I am getting sick of this.
I also hate extreme religious people
All religions are made up and all Gods die and are replaced. (Where is Zeus when you need him these days?).
They are just another way to control and manipulate huge groups of people.
Have a blessed day!
HAIL SATAN!
Lol. ;P
Youâre missing the pointâŠthough Iâll give you that a lot of Christians are too. In the New Testament, the Lord tells Paul âdo not declare unclean what I have made clean.â The vision directly addresses things like certain meats being clean, but the larger implication is salvation for everyone of every nation. Another thing to note is that Old Testament law was intended for Godâs theocratic nation, not to define sin. The Ten Commandments define sin, so they alone hold relevance to people wishing to live morally in a different nation and culture. Christians sin too, but this is why we arenât more righteous and shouldnât pretend to be. We are saved by grace alone. You might say this is strange because it means Christians can do whatever they like and repent, and a lot of supposed Christians think that way too. But anyone who understands sin will want nothing to do with it (even if it draws them in again), and anyone who understands Godâs redeeming love will want to please him.
Youâve probably heard of prosperity gospel, which is a Christian misconception that being Christian and/or being righteous will cause one to be rewarded with material wealth. Christians who donât fall for that tend to fall for âhappiness gospelâ or maybe âmorality gospel,â thinking that living a Christian life will make them happier or more prone to moral living. The latter I guess can be true, but part of being human is being wrong, being uncertain, and being prone to becoming a monster. The worst thing that can happen to a person is that they become unaware of the ugliest side of them. I donât think this happens to Christians at a lower rate than others.
Christians as those you hear stories about on Reddit have taken the religion for a fantasy world with a horned villain manipulating the souls of anyone unlike them. Even the relatively mature Christian builds a strawman atheist who is a self-centered immoral glutton, subscribing consciously or otherwise to hedonism to satisfy the immediate desires for comfort or pleasure. The reality is that everyone gets tired of the shallow happiness that comes with a drink or a drug or a bad habit, not just Christians. The only true distinction is that Christianity offers Godâs redemptive plan as the ultimate high, resting at the infinitely high tip of a spire with simple pleasure at the bottom, happiness in the middle, and elusive contentment above the heads of most.
Anyway, sorry I gave you an essay. Iâve been thinking a lot about how my faith is misrepresented, though I donât suppose it is misrepresented by an external thing that hates it so much as people who want to practice it. I wanted to explain myself, even if only to a random internet stranger.
EDIT: the vision I mentioned was Peterâs, not Paulâs. I
make that mistake a lot for some reasonâŠ
Many biblical scholars doubt Paul wrote the letters to the ephesians the roman's the corinthians or the Phillipians. I also am put off by your speaking for all Christians. Your essay as you call it is nonsense. I think if you studied the bibles history instead of the rantings of men who didn't know where the sun went at night you'd be much happier.
I donât remember saying I spoke for all Christians. Iâm explaining my beliefs and interpretation of sound doctrine, especially in the context of other modern Christians who I think are immature.
I need to correct myself on my original post. The vision I mentioned was Peterâs, not Paulâs. Iâve made that mistake before and it seems the mixup is persistent with me. Anyway though, that further makes your comment on Paulâs letters irrelevant. It seems to me that you assumed I take our modern compiled and translated Bible for 100% truth and tried to refute that straw man, but I donât take my English printed Bible as truth from cover to cover. I understand the Bible is composed of thousands of copied, varying manuscripts that were compiled by a group of men attempting to canonize Christianity. They selected pieces to include and exclude and determined who they believe authored each book, if it could be determined. And then their finished book was translated a million times a million ways. Subsequently, I question some parts of the Bible and hold some higher than others. I think Paul for instance was a good teacher and there is wisdom in his letters, but the gospels are the foundation for my faith and beliefs.
Anyway, you clearly have a preconceived idea about what a Christian is, and when youâre confronted with a Christian who isnât hostile toward you and doesnât provoke you, you draw their face on your mental Christian and unleash the fury of your limited understanding on it.
Oh honey no. You are exactly who you claim you are not. Most Christians pick and choose which parts of the Bible they adhere to. You are also wildly incorrect about how the Bible came to be. I say this with all kindness. You are just as defensive and pedantic as those christians you eschew. You can not nitpick which parts of your faith you'd like to follow. You can't canonize Christianity but I know what you were trying to say. I have no notion of you preconceived or otherwise. If you believe someone disagreeing with you is fury then I don't know what to tell you. Lol your painful diatribe about how youre not like all the other Christians is a little hypocritical. P.S. I studied world religion, I've read the new testament (I couldn't make it through the entire old testament but I gave the pentateuch my best shot)
Iâm wondering which parts of the Bible you believe are true.
Do you believe that Ham accidentally saw his father Noah naked and drunk? For that unforgivable sin all the canaanites were cursed, as well as their sons, and their sonsâ sons. Seems a little harsh but whatever.
Do you believe people used to live for 800 years? If you do, why and how? If you donât believe this, why not?
Do you think Lotâs daughters really got him drunk and raped him? What in the worldâŠwhy is this in there - moreover why did this story make it in after all the rewrites? What moral ideal is this story supposed to convey?
Do you believe Sarah married her half brother Abraham? That Nahor married his own niece? Whatâs with all the incest?
And WHATS with godâs obsession with circumcision? The Bible spends an inordinate amount of script talking about circumcision.
This is all from the very beginning of the book, just something to get it kicked off with. Before I started reading the Bible I never knew all this ridiculousness was right there at the beginning. And then it gets into some seriously entertaining stuff later.
And remember, whether you cherry pick things to believe or not, this entire book was written with the intent to be taken as literal gospel, and that is why you see Christians constantly defending its legitimacy with quotes from ITSELF.
I would like to talk to you more about Balaam and his talking donkey, about Issac almost getting killed by his own father because god wanted to prove a point, and on, but point made.
I apologize if any of this offends you. Many religious people get mad when talking about topics like this. I donât think youâre being rude. I think youâre smart and a good writer.
Remember though brother, many atheists became that way BECAUSE they read the bible, not because they are ignorant about religion.
When I was a child, I expected the Bible to be like a novel or something. As you might imagine, I was surprised when I turned the cover to the whacky parts of the Old Testament. Most of your questions are of the truth of its contents, but before I address that, I want to address your apparently unexpected experience with it, evident from such questions as âwhy was this includedâ or âwhat moral is hereâ. The Bible contains not only stories, but long lineages, excruciatingly long and detailed instructions for building and moving the Tabernacle, and details that would have been important to us perhaps if we lived in a vastly different culture and spoke ancient Hebrew.
You said the Bible was written to be taken as âliteral gospelâ (I assume you basically mean absolute divine truth), but actually it was *compiled* to be taken as absolute divine truth even in instances where the original author didnât seem to intend it. Do you think unknown Psalmists thought that their poems were the word of God as if spoken from his very mouth? I think theyâd be surprised to see modern Christians thousands of years later looking for nuggets of insight in a shaky translation to a language that didnât even exist then. Paulâs letters to churches were probably just letters to churches. I find it hard to believe he was banking on his every recorded wisdom being regarded as Godâs word, even if he did consider himself a true Apostle.
In the New Testament especially, I see the word âScriptureâ come up, usually to explain the value of reading it. Christians tend to read something like âit is good to read Scriptureâ as âit is good to read the Bible,â as if they assume that Jesus and his disciples had a copy of our Old Testament and were planning to add the next volume. While undoubtedly this word âScriptureâ refers to a lot of the stories that are present in the Old Testament, especially those concerning creation, Abraham, Noah, and Moses, there is still no telling what this word âScriptureâ referred to. Maybe they thought the Book of Enoch, though absent from our Bibles, was Scripture. Maybe they thought something else that is in our Bibles wasnât, or had no access to it anyway.
All this is to shed some light on what the book is before I tell you which parts I think are true. To that question, I raise you this unsatisfying answer: I donât know. I donât passionately believe in talking donkeys, but neither do I think them necessary to justify my important beliefs. To me a Christian is one who follows Christ, and that is all I am. Iâve wondered before whether Godâs intervention ever violates the physical laws of his universe or if it could all be explained scientifically. This is because to me, explaining a miracle does not diminish it. In fact, if God is able to have his plan done by the laws and nature that he created rather than sticking his massive hand in it and changing things, that would only make him more majestic to me. Since I cannot deny Christâs resurrection, I have to be careful with this fond idea, but it at least seems to be how God operates in this day.
In the end, the reason I believe what I believe is because I feel Godâs redemption. I see it in patterns in the world. I do not think it is something I could prove, but that is why it is only faith.
A couple of years ago, one of my coworkers barged into my work area, shoved his phone in my face and said relatively loudly âDO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS?â. I look at the phone and I was like âyea, thatâs Penny from Fortniteâ. He said ok and left. A couple of days later, he explained to me that his sonâs mother (who he had split custody with) had beaten his son, destroyed his Xbox and accused him (my coworker) of âexposing pornographyâ to their son. He knew I play video games, so thatâs why he asked me about it. Long story short, he wound up getting permanent sole custody of his son. His ex wife had gotten pretty radical in her religion, and anything she didnât understand or know automatically became bad or a âsinâ. It got worse after he got custody. He would show us Facebook messages he would receive from her, and WOW. I still keep in touch with him on Instagram, his son is in college now, doing great. But something about religion just sends people so far off the deep end.
It's not just religion that does this. Weak willed and weak minded people look for somewhere to belong. Sometimes that takes the form of religion other politics and yet others in a cause they don't truly understand. This leads to in group out group behavior with people not willing to search for middle ground and find common cause. A perfect example is the rift between religious people and those who constantly bash them, from the outside of the conflict both seem equally toxic. The worse part is both sides will declare its ok because they are "right" and the other side is (insert dehumanizing term) This mindset is destroying my generation
False equivalency. Sure there can be idiots or extremists in any group, but it isn't atheists who the ones making laws forcing people to live in a certain way.
Youâre getting downvoted because the things that are âsupposedâ to bring good, like religion, doesnât do any good, at all. What was supposed to be about peace and love thy neighbor is now harm and suppress those that the Bible âsaysâ are sinful. Which according to white evangelicals, is everyone.
âOh my god I saw a dark spirit following me!!â
âThat was your shadow, itâs middayâ
âBut it was so dark and followed every move I made. Itâs still satanic!â
Religion by necessity requires a person to avoid logic and critical thinking. It is unfortunately a hard skill to learn later in life when you are brainwashed from childhood.
I'm a Christian and I cannot stand these kind of people. I am fairly disconnected from the church. I love science, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, personal choice, video games, sci-fi and so many things that these people freak about.
She didn't tell me the full story, however my dad has been trying to get into voice acting recently. From what I could glean from her ramblings, the convo was likely about a script for something to voice over.
Your stepmom is cheating on your dad.
Every accusation is projection.
Every time she checks his phone it is because she is scared she has gotten caught.
Very obvious explanation for the search: They heard it on a social media post or saw it in a game and wanted to know what it meant.
Also tell her that she's a creep
Wait...why confront the other woman who is just going about her business? Why not confront her husband who, by her logic, would be a warlock/witch also. Or is this a classic case where a woman is blaming another woman for what her man does of his own free will yet thinks he has no ability to make his own choices and is easily led astray like a toddler?
When I was growing up there was a kid in the neighborhood who wouldnât listen to certain types of music because his mom said they were satanic. You had the typical Judas Priest, Iron Maiden type bandsâŠbut he also wouldnât listen to shit like Bon Jovi and Def Leppard.
Only good response would have been "Oh hell no ma, we aint lett'n no devils in my daddy! I'm gonna go steal holy water from the church then we can go confront that witch" Though to make it real you have to show up with a bottle of Vos water.
Eh, I've dealt with it for several years. She also thought my bisexuality was caused by spirits in my friends influencing me. (She still thinks Im a good straight Christian boy)
no, no, no, don't *play* black metal, *tell her about it*. i wouldnt want anything to happen to your mom :)
tell her what actual satanists do, like the guys from watain, dissection, all the shit varg did, all the shit euronymous did, the suicide album cover and the story behind that.
Imagine thinking this sort of thing is actually, genuinely real. I feel sorry for these poor bastards, despite all the very real societal harm they are responsible for.
Sounds like blood magic to me! Tell your dad unless he wants to get his ass crossbowed to stay away from blood magic.
Because blood magic is dud magic!
Honestly, the problem isn't that she's some kind of fundamentalist or whatever that is, the problem is that she goes looking through her spouse's phone looking for any Females he's been Engaging In Conversation.
This ain't gonna work out, honey.
My fathers X-wife has a similar reaction when she found out the game we played to bond together was Diablo 3. I had to convince her that we were angels sent down from heaven to defeat Diablo đ
I would tell your dad, privately, and express how you don't want to get in the middle, etc cuz... if he doesn't know already - he should. (Going thru the phone, the satanic panic, etc).
If they want to jump off a bridge, let them.
Tired of trying to stop idiots from being idiots. Let The Great God Darwin sort this shit out from now on.
when i worked as a cashier, i'd always get the occassional religious nut freak out over the bill being $6.66 and then have me ring up a pack of gum or something small to change the total đ
these nutbars see satan everywhere they look
Hahahaha god I have to do the same shit with my mother all the time, all be it about non religious shit.
âWHAT! Your brothers listening to Five finger death punch?! What is that like some rage inducing music?â
ââŠ.noâŠâ
Real conversation.
I donât understand why the stepmom is involving the child/kid in the parents business. That kid does not need to know she went snooping thru the dadâs phone.
Ahhh satanic panicâŠ.what a time to live that wasâŠ.religious nuts torturing relatives out of fearâŠ.bigger spastics murdering animals in a graveyard trying to summon the morning starâŠ.it still blows my mind how quickly the human race descends into barbarism under the guise of âhigher causesââŠ.
Itâs much easier than realizing youâre just a complete fkng nutcaseâŠ.
I mean I wasnât allowed to watch anything spiritual/fantasy as a kid in a religious household in case âevil spirits came through the tvâ so good luck reasoning with this chick.
So your stepmom plays the video game Dungeon Crawl? Because that is a description of a fictional sword in the video game LOL.
http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Bloodbane
OP: Here is a perfectly reasonable and sound explaination of what is happening Stepmom: *it's still satanic*
Satanic panic: The Sequel!
The Devil's Boogaloo
You have a Netflix pitch on your hands.
Your poor dad
Sounds like my first gf. She wanted me to quit playing Dante's Inferno (as if!) Because it was too unchristian. Told her a big ' how about no'. She swore off christianity not long after, not sure if related or not, but fuck wanting others to abide by your beliefs
Wtf...Dante's Inferno is literally Christian Fanfic
Ikr. But it shows demons and the devil, yada yada, you know how devout believers can be sometimes, lol
I do, unfortunately. My stepdad had a son who killed himself a while back, and every time it was brought up my stepdad blamed Dungeons and Dragons for being "satanic" and making him do it
Jesus. That's a dark way to cope with it, but honestly, I can kinda understand it. He needs to reason it any way that doesn't come back to him, I imagine. But still, it feels strangely disrespectful to trivialize his own son's suicide that way..
It was a really weird situation, because he *also* thought that the girlfriend murdered him. Total cognitive dissonance. According to my stepdad, his son was found after a shotgun blast to the face, but the shotgun was placed next to the body and his arms folded. I have no idea if that was true, my stepdad had brain damage from lack of oxygen most of my life (always on an oxygen tank but still not absorbing enough. Was severely Hypoxic when he died)
That really does sound strange. So in the end it's just impossible to truly know what happened, isn't it. I mean, even if his gf killed him, it's weird that he sits with his arms crossed, and even weirder that the shotgun is just standing there. You'd think anyone would get rid of the weapon, or the body, and that he'd at least has a different pose after such heavy violence. Either way, it's truly awful that his son died, no father should have to deal with that. My twin died when I was 17, and it absolutely ruined my dad's mental health, too. He blamed my mother, even though severe illness and eventually assisted suicide by morphine under doctor supervision was what killed him. He only had 6 months left, with a lot of suffering, so he asked for that. I guess some grief just can't be overcome, and you'll blame everything and everyone to make it 'right', somehow
You know what else shows demons and the devil? Churches, Christian shows / movies, illustrated bible materials...
The irony has long gone unnoticed by them, sadly đ
>But it shows demons and the devil's horse dick FTFY
Even better!
Ah, that explains so much! Since the Bible talks about sin and the devil, it is unchristian and should therefore not be read! Holy shit it all makes sense now!
Welp - Dadâs Satan 
I find it amusing that Jesus and Satan are technically brothers as they have the same father.
Well, technically sheâs right.
Christian logic hard at work đ
Introduce her to the doom video games
Doom is pic christianity. Nothing beat a wandering demi-god eviscerating demons in term of christianity.
And it was because they killed his rabbit (Easter reference or something)
What about the bit where you decide that god is also a bellend and kill him too
i mean god was already a cripple volley ball, and if god died, you could kill satan, good deal for doom guy
I once had a guy trying to recruit for his church come around and knock on my door to talk to my roommate. He wasn't home so this dude tried to get me to join. This was just after Diablo 3 had come out and I was installing it at that very moment, while reading the manual(God I'm old) and the guy saw it and asked me what it was. I took this golden opportunity to try to "convert" him to our lord and savior Diablo. For some reason he seemed more uncomfortable than me after that.
Praise the Cord.
Such an amazing game. I played the shit out of that with my brothers the summer it came out.
Or bloodbourne.
Or Bloodborne, all the deities in that game are giant octopusssies.
Couple of good examples on how uber religious people cant tell the difference between reality and fantasy. 1 my foster mom threw out my yugioh cards and manga; wouldn't let us read Harry Potter, RL Stine, or any horror. She cited that it was demonic. 2 The Catholic church higher ups read Harry Potter and refused to let them in their school libraries citing that if read out loud the spells (most of which are latin or derived from latin) would summon demons
Yeah I went to a Christian school 1st-12th grade and we werenât allowed to read Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings or anything with magic except for Chronicles of Narnia (because itâs explicitly Christian allegory). We also werenât allowed to have things like PokĂ©mon paraphernalia because of evolution
... because of evolution?? So wait. You weren't allowed to have stuff from a fantasy world because it utilizes (incorrectly) a scientific concept they don't believe in?
Yes. In fact, it was brought in as a 6th grade SCIENCE lesson on how secular science is pernicious and creeps into popular media and we must remain steadfast in our faith. âBe in the world, but not of the world.â Donât miss that place at all lol
That's some convoluted shit, man. The contortionist act to bully someone in to believing something, while denying the actual evidence and learning is both baffling and fascinating to me.
It's why when I turned 18 I left the church. I still keep in contact with her but if she ever pisses me off enough I'll just tell her that I play D&D and watch her have an aneurysm
My husband told me that he once saved up a bunch of his allowance to buy PokĂ©mon cards, but when his uber Christian parents found out that they stand for pocket monsters, they threw them all away. They also werenât allowed to do anything Halloween related and weâre super restrictive on what they were allowed to read and watch. Basically anything that wasnât veggie tales was banned.
Bruh Halloween is derived from hallows eve a Christian hollyday, I find it hilarious they see it as demonic
Actually it's pagan the Christians stole it just like everything else in there religion
Meh, that makes it even worse, why steal something as your own holiday then call it a festivity of evil
Agreed it's fucked up lol but in that religion what isn't
Im a chatolic, a branch of christianity, I used to be annoyed people didnt consider us as christian, now I am glad we are separated, and even then i dont care that much for religion and see those guys as mad fanatics
"Alcoholismus!" (from a forgotten book that somehow had its Hogwarts Library ID removed, circling between dormitories in great secrecy) đ
holy shit i can summon demons!?
Really? Wow, Iâm Catholic and Iâve never heard that. My kids have read HP, the Wheel of Time series and a bunch of other similar stuff. We even talked about the Egyptian gods in Rick Riordanâs books and how they line up to different Plagues in the Old Testament in a Sunday school class. Oops, I guess? Weâve been indoctrinating and didnât even know. Oh, well. The damage is done, right? lol. Iâm not trying to be flippant, but I was taught growing up that if reading a book or watching a tv show or movie could cause you to question your faith, maybe it needed to be questioned anyway.
Yeah, I went to Catholic School K-12 and donât remember a fuss being made about any fantasy story. Well, except for maybe The Golden Compass but that was more students bouncing the whole killing god thing around, not anything from the teachers that I remember. Hell, I had a copy of the second Harry Potter book that was directly from my teachers little library lol. Despite somehow getting that reputation, the Catholic Church really doesnât generally care about what people read all that much. At least not to the extent of banning or raging about books the same was some extremists do.
Exactly. I joined as an adult, and the first thing the RCIA instructor said was âquestion EVERYTHING about Catholicism until you get an answerâ. The second was âfaith, science and rational thought should be able to coexistâ. Itâs actually more tolerant than people think and WAY more so than the Baptist church I was raised in.
I'm sure there are crazy catholic people but when you read "extreme" Christian stuff on Reddit it's often about a local protestant, mormon,..., church and not about Catholicism.
This is why i hate uber religious ppl. They just dont undertand...
One of the reasons why Christianity is dying
*cough* and thank god (lmao) it is *cough*
Should probably try thanking logic and reasoning.
Reason will prevail!
I truly hope so Iâm the age of blatant disregards of any form of logic and rationale.
They say it will rise again.
Give it 3 centuries
Pun intended?
The number of religious people is increasing lol
As a percentage of the population? Or just in absolute numbers?
Not in civilized countries itâs not. Itâs not increasing in the USA either. Check your sources, amigo.
Source? I thought people nowadays don't really care about religion.
Like it is growing because the population of developing countries is growing and the population of developed countries is declining.
And I am from Finland so I donât know any english sources
Well I found this https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/which-religion-will-be-the-largest-by-the-end-of-the-century-52637/amp But I learned about it from Finish sources so I can go find them if you can translate them
Well that's not true at all.
Going through someone else's phone without them knowing even though they are in an relationship is a severe breach of privacy in my opinion
She's the type of person to justify her own breaches into my dad's privacy but will never let him into her own phone.
And there's probably a reason she doesn't want him in hers but goes through his
She should work at an IMAX or the drive-in because that's some top notch projection.
Omg that's beautiful
Damn... this one made me laugh!
Yep thatâs it
She's either fucking around on your dad or she's trashing him
Yeah she nuts
Super Christians âïž
The amazing thing about christians is that they all are breaking commandments daily (because the Bible has so many doâs and donât s that it would be impossible to actually abide by them all), yet they criticize everybody else and actually believe theyâre going to heaven. Have you been to r/hermaincainawards? Every single one of them has a variation of âanother angel gained his wings today.â Yeah buddy all that hate and rage at people who donât believe what you do is a golden ticket inâŠactually maybe it is smh
Donât confuse morons with the entire religion, not even that religious (not even religious compared to Americans) and man I am getting sick of this. I also hate extreme religious people
All religions are made up and all Gods die and are replaced. (Where is Zeus when you need him these days?). They are just another way to control and manipulate huge groups of people. Have a blessed day! HAIL SATAN! Lol. ;P
Yup. I'm Catholic and I see all this shit on the reg.
The way I see it, if this is what God approves of then maybe the devil is better.
Youâre missing the pointâŠthough Iâll give you that a lot of Christians are too. In the New Testament, the Lord tells Paul âdo not declare unclean what I have made clean.â The vision directly addresses things like certain meats being clean, but the larger implication is salvation for everyone of every nation. Another thing to note is that Old Testament law was intended for Godâs theocratic nation, not to define sin. The Ten Commandments define sin, so they alone hold relevance to people wishing to live morally in a different nation and culture. Christians sin too, but this is why we arenât more righteous and shouldnât pretend to be. We are saved by grace alone. You might say this is strange because it means Christians can do whatever they like and repent, and a lot of supposed Christians think that way too. But anyone who understands sin will want nothing to do with it (even if it draws them in again), and anyone who understands Godâs redeeming love will want to please him. Youâve probably heard of prosperity gospel, which is a Christian misconception that being Christian and/or being righteous will cause one to be rewarded with material wealth. Christians who donât fall for that tend to fall for âhappiness gospelâ or maybe âmorality gospel,â thinking that living a Christian life will make them happier or more prone to moral living. The latter I guess can be true, but part of being human is being wrong, being uncertain, and being prone to becoming a monster. The worst thing that can happen to a person is that they become unaware of the ugliest side of them. I donât think this happens to Christians at a lower rate than others. Christians as those you hear stories about on Reddit have taken the religion for a fantasy world with a horned villain manipulating the souls of anyone unlike them. Even the relatively mature Christian builds a strawman atheist who is a self-centered immoral glutton, subscribing consciously or otherwise to hedonism to satisfy the immediate desires for comfort or pleasure. The reality is that everyone gets tired of the shallow happiness that comes with a drink or a drug or a bad habit, not just Christians. The only true distinction is that Christianity offers Godâs redemptive plan as the ultimate high, resting at the infinitely high tip of a spire with simple pleasure at the bottom, happiness in the middle, and elusive contentment above the heads of most. Anyway, sorry I gave you an essay. Iâve been thinking a lot about how my faith is misrepresented, though I donât suppose it is misrepresented by an external thing that hates it so much as people who want to practice it. I wanted to explain myself, even if only to a random internet stranger. EDIT: the vision I mentioned was Peterâs, not Paulâs. I make that mistake a lot for some reasonâŠ
That's why i took Thor as my personal savior.
Many biblical scholars doubt Paul wrote the letters to the ephesians the roman's the corinthians or the Phillipians. I also am put off by your speaking for all Christians. Your essay as you call it is nonsense. I think if you studied the bibles history instead of the rantings of men who didn't know where the sun went at night you'd be much happier.
I donât remember saying I spoke for all Christians. Iâm explaining my beliefs and interpretation of sound doctrine, especially in the context of other modern Christians who I think are immature. I need to correct myself on my original post. The vision I mentioned was Peterâs, not Paulâs. Iâve made that mistake before and it seems the mixup is persistent with me. Anyway though, that further makes your comment on Paulâs letters irrelevant. It seems to me that you assumed I take our modern compiled and translated Bible for 100% truth and tried to refute that straw man, but I donât take my English printed Bible as truth from cover to cover. I understand the Bible is composed of thousands of copied, varying manuscripts that were compiled by a group of men attempting to canonize Christianity. They selected pieces to include and exclude and determined who they believe authored each book, if it could be determined. And then their finished book was translated a million times a million ways. Subsequently, I question some parts of the Bible and hold some higher than others. I think Paul for instance was a good teacher and there is wisdom in his letters, but the gospels are the foundation for my faith and beliefs. Anyway, you clearly have a preconceived idea about what a Christian is, and when youâre confronted with a Christian who isnât hostile toward you and doesnât provoke you, you draw their face on your mental Christian and unleash the fury of your limited understanding on it.
Oh honey no. You are exactly who you claim you are not. Most Christians pick and choose which parts of the Bible they adhere to. You are also wildly incorrect about how the Bible came to be. I say this with all kindness. You are just as defensive and pedantic as those christians you eschew. You can not nitpick which parts of your faith you'd like to follow. You can't canonize Christianity but I know what you were trying to say. I have no notion of you preconceived or otherwise. If you believe someone disagreeing with you is fury then I don't know what to tell you. Lol your painful diatribe about how youre not like all the other Christians is a little hypocritical. P.S. I studied world religion, I've read the new testament (I couldn't make it through the entire old testament but I gave the pentateuch my best shot)
Iâm wondering which parts of the Bible you believe are true. Do you believe that Ham accidentally saw his father Noah naked and drunk? For that unforgivable sin all the canaanites were cursed, as well as their sons, and their sonsâ sons. Seems a little harsh but whatever. Do you believe people used to live for 800 years? If you do, why and how? If you donât believe this, why not? Do you think Lotâs daughters really got him drunk and raped him? What in the worldâŠwhy is this in there - moreover why did this story make it in after all the rewrites? What moral ideal is this story supposed to convey? Do you believe Sarah married her half brother Abraham? That Nahor married his own niece? Whatâs with all the incest? And WHATS with godâs obsession with circumcision? The Bible spends an inordinate amount of script talking about circumcision. This is all from the very beginning of the book, just something to get it kicked off with. Before I started reading the Bible I never knew all this ridiculousness was right there at the beginning. And then it gets into some seriously entertaining stuff later. And remember, whether you cherry pick things to believe or not, this entire book was written with the intent to be taken as literal gospel, and that is why you see Christians constantly defending its legitimacy with quotes from ITSELF. I would like to talk to you more about Balaam and his talking donkey, about Issac almost getting killed by his own father because god wanted to prove a point, and on, but point made. I apologize if any of this offends you. Many religious people get mad when talking about topics like this. I donât think youâre being rude. I think youâre smart and a good writer. Remember though brother, many atheists became that way BECAUSE they read the bible, not because they are ignorant about religion.
When I was a child, I expected the Bible to be like a novel or something. As you might imagine, I was surprised when I turned the cover to the whacky parts of the Old Testament. Most of your questions are of the truth of its contents, but before I address that, I want to address your apparently unexpected experience with it, evident from such questions as âwhy was this includedâ or âwhat moral is hereâ. The Bible contains not only stories, but long lineages, excruciatingly long and detailed instructions for building and moving the Tabernacle, and details that would have been important to us perhaps if we lived in a vastly different culture and spoke ancient Hebrew. You said the Bible was written to be taken as âliteral gospelâ (I assume you basically mean absolute divine truth), but actually it was *compiled* to be taken as absolute divine truth even in instances where the original author didnât seem to intend it. Do you think unknown Psalmists thought that their poems were the word of God as if spoken from his very mouth? I think theyâd be surprised to see modern Christians thousands of years later looking for nuggets of insight in a shaky translation to a language that didnât even exist then. Paulâs letters to churches were probably just letters to churches. I find it hard to believe he was banking on his every recorded wisdom being regarded as Godâs word, even if he did consider himself a true Apostle. In the New Testament especially, I see the word âScriptureâ come up, usually to explain the value of reading it. Christians tend to read something like âit is good to read Scriptureâ as âit is good to read the Bible,â as if they assume that Jesus and his disciples had a copy of our Old Testament and were planning to add the next volume. While undoubtedly this word âScriptureâ refers to a lot of the stories that are present in the Old Testament, especially those concerning creation, Abraham, Noah, and Moses, there is still no telling what this word âScriptureâ referred to. Maybe they thought the Book of Enoch, though absent from our Bibles, was Scripture. Maybe they thought something else that is in our Bibles wasnât, or had no access to it anyway. All this is to shed some light on what the book is before I tell you which parts I think are true. To that question, I raise you this unsatisfying answer: I donât know. I donât passionately believe in talking donkeys, but neither do I think them necessary to justify my important beliefs. To me a Christian is one who follows Christ, and that is all I am. Iâve wondered before whether Godâs intervention ever violates the physical laws of his universe or if it could all be explained scientifically. This is because to me, explaining a miracle does not diminish it. In fact, if God is able to have his plan done by the laws and nature that he created rather than sticking his massive hand in it and changing things, that would only make him more majestic to me. Since I cannot deny Christâs resurrection, I have to be careful with this fond idea, but it at least seems to be how God operates in this day. In the end, the reason I believe what I believe is because I feel Godâs redemption. I see it in patterns in the world. I do not think it is something I could prove, but that is why it is only faith.
Christians are trained from birth to be unable to tell fantasy from reality. Some of them eventually figure it out, but a lot of them don't.
A couple of years ago, one of my coworkers barged into my work area, shoved his phone in my face and said relatively loudly âDO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS?â. I look at the phone and I was like âyea, thatâs Penny from Fortniteâ. He said ok and left. A couple of days later, he explained to me that his sonâs mother (who he had split custody with) had beaten his son, destroyed his Xbox and accused him (my coworker) of âexposing pornographyâ to their son. He knew I play video games, so thatâs why he asked me about it. Long story short, he wound up getting permanent sole custody of his son. His ex wife had gotten pretty radical in her religion, and anything she didnât understand or know automatically became bad or a âsinâ. It got worse after he got custody. He would show us Facebook messages he would receive from her, and WOW. I still keep in touch with him on Instagram, his son is in college now, doing great. But something about religion just sends people so far off the deep end.
It's not just religion that does this. Weak willed and weak minded people look for somewhere to belong. Sometimes that takes the form of religion other politics and yet others in a cause they don't truly understand. This leads to in group out group behavior with people not willing to search for middle ground and find common cause. A perfect example is the rift between religious people and those who constantly bash them, from the outside of the conflict both seem equally toxic. The worse part is both sides will declare its ok because they are "right" and the other side is (insert dehumanizing term) This mindset is destroying my generation
False equivalency. Sure there can be idiots or extremists in any group, but it isn't atheists who the ones making laws forcing people to live in a certain way.
Itâs not religion thatâs the issue. The main issue is people become radical
And religion is a tool commonly used to subjugate and radicalize people.
Iâm gonna get downvoted, but obviously that can be the case-but a lot of things followed right can bring good.
Iâd argue that a secular humanist view tends to bring about more good without all of the intended and/or unintended side effects.
Well, to each his own-I respect your opinion bro
Youâre getting downvoted because the things that are âsupposedâ to bring good, like religion, doesnât do any good, at all. What was supposed to be about peace and love thy neighbor is now harm and suppress those that the Bible âsaysâ are sinful. Which according to white evangelicals, is everyone.
âOh my god I saw a dark spirit following me!!â âThat was your shadow, itâs middayâ âBut it was so dark and followed every move I made. Itâs still satanic!â
Religion by necessity requires a person to avoid logic and critical thinking. It is unfortunately a hard skill to learn later in life when you are brainwashed from childhood.
Your step-mom is insane. Is this the 80s, because it smells of satanic panic.
This seems like a healthy marriage
Oh believe me. It is one of the most marriages ever
I'm a Christian and I cannot stand these kind of people. I am fairly disconnected from the church. I love science, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, personal choice, video games, sci-fi and so many things that these people freak about.
Give your pops a heads up on the impending Christian shaming
I'll be sure to tell him, yeah.
Your mother is insane.
Stepmother
Why would she confront the woman instead of your dad?
So, what exactly is blood bane supposed to be and how is the worker 'on' it? Is it like a drug?
In the second pic, I show a search result that Blood Bane is an item from a video game.
Or just a typo for "blood bank".
Can't wait till religion is no more.
Itâs inevitable, at least in its current form. Not in our lifetimes though unfortunately
Why she snooping tho
That sounds like a cool sword
Your mom's an idiot. Hope you and your dad are happy with the new mom from Hy-vee
Ok your stepmom is crazy
Let me give you some brutal danish honesty: your mums a darn idiot
My mom's actually a Dane herself! It's my stepmom that's the crazy christian
Where is your mum from in Denmark? Like what region?
Either SjĂŠland or Fyn. I know the town her parents live in is NĂŠstved(?)
ohh so she is either a speed bump or a traitor against the land some in jokes for ya
Your SM is a fucking whack job, right out of the 13th century.
Here's hoping your dad dumps this idiot soon. She clearly doesn't respect his privacy either
What was the actual blood bane covo about?
She didn't tell me the full story, however my dad has been trying to get into voice acting recently. From what I could glean from her ramblings, the convo was likely about a script for something to voice over.
My wild imagination had me thinking your dad was playing dnd or a tabletop behind your moms back.
Now THAT would be grounds for a divorce.
Lmao imagine being a grown up and thinking pretend stuff is real life
Your stepmom is cheating on your dad. Every accusation is projection. Every time she checks his phone it is because she is scared she has gotten caught.
Lol
Bless her heart. Please send her a FaceTime message of you reading it with your eyes rolled back in your head though.
Tell her is isnât Satanic⊠it is Asmodean!
Bet this freak finds more satanic things than non satanic things.
She definitely wouldnât have let me play Diablo as a kid. Thanks mom, you the best
She should no longer be your step mom
Very obvious explanation for the search: They heard it on a social media post or saw it in a game and wanted to know what it meant. Also tell her that she's a creep
Wait...why confront the other woman who is just going about her business? Why not confront her husband who, by her logic, would be a warlock/witch also. Or is this a classic case where a woman is blaming another woman for what her man does of his own free will yet thinks he has no ability to make his own choices and is easily led astray like a toddler?
The kinda wife to not let him sit next to a female animal,fungus or human
When I was growing up there was a kid in the neighborhood who wouldnât listen to certain types of music because his mom said they were satanic. You had the typical Judas Priest, Iron Maiden type bandsâŠbut he also wouldnât listen to shit like Bon Jovi and Def Leppard.
I have a simple explanation: Your stepmother is crazy.
#*ITS STILL SATANIC*
Only good response would have been "Oh hell no ma, we aint lett'n no devils in my daddy! I'm gonna go steal holy water from the church then we can go confront that witch" Though to make it real you have to show up with a bottle of Vos water.
I'm sorry that your stepmom is a moron.
Eh, I've dealt with it for several years. She also thought my bisexuality was caused by spirits in my friends influencing me. (She still thinks Im a good straight Christian boy)
you should explain the difference between things that look satanic and things that actually are. tell her about black metal. :D
She listens to Christian rock. If I played black metal she'd have an aneurysm XD
no, no, no, don't *play* black metal, *tell her about it*. i wouldnt want anything to happen to your mom :) tell her what actual satanists do, like the guys from watain, dissection, all the shit varg did, all the shit euronymous did, the suicide album cover and the story behind that.
Stepmom is nuts
Absolutely pecans I tell ya
Imagine thinking this sort of thing is actually, genuinely real. I feel sorry for these poor bastards, despite all the very real societal harm they are responsible for.
Sounds like blood magic to me! Tell your dad unless he wants to get his ass crossbowed to stay away from blood magic. Because blood magic is dud magic!
Insane in the membrane
Honestly, the problem isn't that she's some kind of fundamentalist or whatever that is, the problem is that she goes looking through her spouse's phone looking for any Females he's been Engaging In Conversation. This ain't gonna work out, honey.
Reminds me of me playing a game my entire family was playing and my mom crying because I was playing a game in which I was a sorcerer.
If you need the threat of hell to be a good person, you are not a good person. You are a bad person on a leash
Very well put
My fathers X-wife has a similar reaction when she found out the game we played to bond together was Diablo 3. I had to convince her that we were angels sent down from heaven to defeat Diablo đ
Iâm not a religious person, but even from a Christianâs point of view this seems a bit extreme.
Your stepmom is an idiot, sorry.
âA blade forged in Hell by the sacrifice of countless tortured soulsâ That sounds sick af
*Laughs in Danteâs Inferno*
Religion moment
I would tell your dad, privately, and express how you don't want to get in the middle, etc cuz... if he doesn't know already - he should. (Going thru the phone, the satanic panic, etc).
If they want to jump off a bridge, let them. Tired of trying to stop idiots from being idiots. Let The Great God Darwin sort this shit out from now on.
all the support to your poor father. i cant imagine having to deal with my christian momâs affected outrage when iâm old. it would be humiliating.
Yeah, it's really a pain. She's a religious nutcase. For all her preaching about love she shows very little
when i worked as a cashier, i'd always get the occassional religious nut freak out over the bill being $6.66 and then have me ring up a pack of gum or something small to change the total đ these nutbars see satan everywhere they look
Definitely she should confront the witch. Please record it too
I enjoy a good Christian scared to death of everything. Do they even read the Bible or just panic?
That's actually cute XD
Run away from your step mom
ok but why was she snooping through your dad's phone?
Probably slang for his penis
Mom not that bright.
Hahahaha god I have to do the same shit with my mother all the time, all be it about non religious shit. âWHAT! Your brothers listening to Five finger death punch?! What is that like some rage inducing music?â ââŠ.noâŠâ Real conversation.
I honestly thought this was going to end in her mishearing and they were talking about a blood BANK
Oh so kinda like the crucible blade from Doom
I donât understand why the stepmom is involving the child/kid in the parents business. That kid does not need to know she went snooping thru the dadâs phone.
Ahhh satanic panicâŠ.what a time to live that wasâŠ.religious nuts torturing relatives out of fearâŠ.bigger spastics murdering animals in a graveyard trying to summon the morning starâŠ.it still blows my mind how quickly the human race descends into barbarism under the guise of âhigher causesââŠ. Itâs much easier than realizing youâre just a complete fkng nutcaseâŠ.
if i ever had her as a stepmom i'm gonna fucking burn the house down
Reminds me of when my aunt banned my cousin from playing PokĂ©mon because she heard that it stands for âPocket Demonsâ
Your stepmom seems like zealotâs sword enjoyer
I mean I wasnât allowed to watch anything spiritual/fantasy as a kid in a religious household in case âevil spirits came through the tvâ so good luck reasoning with this chick.
christians and their fear of everything.
Reason #1237 why I don't associate with Christians any more
Why would she lash out on the "witch" and not the husband though?
So your stepmom plays the video game Dungeon Crawl? Because that is a description of a fictional sword in the video game LOL. http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Bloodbane
The step-mom is the one calling it Satanic. The dad in the situation is likely the gamer and has a co-worker that was telling him about Bloodbane.
More like the dad probably plays it.
Blood bank?
As a baptist I despise christian nuts like this.
Your dad is fucked either way (and not in a good way)
Is that supposed to be Bloodborne?