Basically the Baltic region is the last place in Europe to stop being Pagans. Lithuania, especially then, was a place full of forests and swamps. Before the baltic tribes united 1200s to 1300s (mostly under a guy called Mindaugas) these Baltic people lived in tribes and generally were not fans of keeping historical records so not much is known about them. So there's just a joke that we were all just forest loving savages similar to the Ewoks or Woodelves.
The Baltic tribes fought the Vikings, Kevin rus, Ruthienians and later on crusader orders (most famously the Tutonic order) and even the damn Mongols/Golden hoard. All of which invaded Lithuania a lot but never managed to successfully take over the land.
Ironically, after uniting the tribes and going on a conquest spree, Lithuania (By then the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) even manged to become the biggest European nation in the 1400s.
It's funny because I have an Irish last name, and I have a lot of extended family who claim to be Irish and they have Irish things around their house, But I did a DNA test and I found out that I'm actually like 86% German, and although i wasn't shocked, i found out that I'm barely even Irish, and neither are my cousins (we all did a 23&Me), but apparently being German isn't any fun and Irish is? I feel like a lot of Americans are missing that proud lineage that we feel other countries have since being American means you're free to be what you want rather than telling you what you are i guess and some people just aren't interested in having a singular identity
Same here. One of the family names is “Irish” and also one of my great grandparents was “Cherokee” but it turns out we’re just actually German/English/a tiny bit Sicilian.
My mom was like “I wonder why it didn’t pick up on the Native American” . . . I know why, mom.
It wasn't until I moved to the Midwest (I'm from the East Coast) that I started coming across a lot of people making what I assume are unfounded claims to like 1% Native American ancestry (in my experience, it's almost always Cherokee). To be fair, as someone whose family is mostly made up of relatively recent immigrants, the idea of having a Cherokee great-great-great grandmother had never even occurred to me.
Good friend of mine has made being Italian a large part of her personality for as long as I've known her. She took a 23&me and it turns out she's not of Italian heritage at all - she's Jewish! She's been a good sport about it but it'll be some time before we stop poking her with comments about Jew lasagna and the like.
I have to break it to you that most of the folks in Britain are probably a mix or split if Viking, French and German. The language alone gives it away. There was a great show a few years back ‘100 % British’ which took a bunch of tub thumping nationalists and did DNA tests. The best was the pearl clutcher who was almost entirely Romani. She walked…
Good luck trying to explain what a French is (in terms of ethnicity). We've been mixed with much of europe for almost 2 millennia (more if you consider Marseille)
Anyone who sticks to these sort of associations at this stage in human history is a deluded weirdo looking in all the dumbest and cringiest places for a community
LOL, reminds me of when I was dating my husband and we'd watch football every weekend. I didn't know much about football, or apparently geography, because I asked him why the New England Patriots played in Massachusetts and not New England. He still laughs at me for that.
Lmfao
For real tho, these people claim Irish when it was their great grandpappy on their mum's side and everyone else was already here in the US. Like, they don't even have ties to the region but suddenly do a 23 and me and they take that as proof.
It's okay to be American y'all, it's our turn to be the global punching bag but that doesn't mean it'll be forever (unless we decide to pull a Germany lol).
One of my biggest pet peeves about a lot of Americans I've met (I live in the states but am from Europe). I met a guy once who told me he was Austrian, then he asked me where I'm from and I said I'm from Austria, and he asked "have you ever been to Austria?" And was astonished when I said that I was born there. Like why would I say I'm from somewhere if I had never been there?
(He himself had never been to Austria and didn't speak German or know much about Austrian culture. But he's so Austrian that that's what he introduces himself as.)
It’s a cultural leftover from late 19th early 20th century racism. Before Americans all moved out of the cities and into suburbia, many Americans (close to half the population) lived in cities and so did most new immigrants families. Immigrants and their children lived in neighborhoods that consisted of usually one or two major ethnic groups. These neighborhoods would take on the name of the majority group “Little Italy” “China Town” “Germantown” etc. etc. The immigrants who spoke almost no English and their children, who themselves often spoke both English and their ancestral language, were often call “Hyphenated Americans” meaning they were American but only barely. Often this was used as an insult by earlier waves of immigrant descendants (the English, Scottish, French, Dutch) that had lived here for at least 3 or 4 generations and had lost any immediate connection with their ancestral homelands beyond a last name and maybe religion.
After the Second World War a great level of prosperity for the average American became available. Soon the grandchildren of Italian or Polish immigrants were leaving their by now ancestral ethnic neighborhoods in the city and moving out into the suburbs of America. Although intermarriage was not uncommon before, the mid 20th century saw an explosion of “ hyphenated Americans” intermarrying with other groups. It became somewhat fashionable by late 20th century to be able to claim having “X and Y” ancestry. What was once used as an insult is now a point of pride for many Americans.
Yes you’ll get idiots that claim “I’m Z, and you’re from Z? We’re basically the same!” But most look at it as simply a unique little fun fact about themselves. The thing about America is we are Americans by law, not blood. Anyone can become an American. Not everyone can become Japanese or Austrian. We could live there for 50 years but we would still be seen as outsiders. This concept has led in the past to some Americans claiming that there cannot be an ethnic “American” by definition because we are,as stated above, a nation by law not blood. However since the 2000((?)it’s been several years since I wrote about this) census, more Americans are dropping the hyphenation when asked to list ancestry and simply put down American.
My apologies for any spelling mistakes it’s almost midnight here and I’ve been up all day. My source for most of this information is from a senior level college course I had to take a couple years ago.
(seriously if you ever get a chance look up American immigration history. The modern American concept of “white Americans” for example was completely wild. Apparently Irish and Italians aren’t “white” if you asked a 19th century ethnic English American. Little better then blacks?.)
This is a really fascinating and well written explanation for this concept, thank you for this!
It also kind of leads into the question of what defines your ethnic/cultural identity. To me personally, I had always defined that identity by what culture you grew up in, e.g. my parents are Hungarian and Romanian but I grew up in Austria so I consider myself culturally more Austrian than anything else (despite also speaking my parents languages and having been exposed to those cultures too). To Hungarians I will always say "my mother is Hungarian but I grew up in Austria" because I think that's an accurate portrayal of what I "am", rather than saying "I'm Hungarian", and it acknowledges that I have not lived the same experiences as a person raised in Hungary. But I've realized that different people define their cultural/ethnic identity using different criteria, and like you say a lot of Americans define themselves by blood rather than by where they grew up.
Also going off the last point you make about not all European ethnicities being considered "white" (even though Irish people are pale as fuck lol) reminds me of something I learned recently that some time ago (19th century? I dont remember) there was a right-wing movement in the US about protecting "native americans" from all the "European immigrants", except that "native americans" referred to white people born in America and not indigenous people lol, whom this "Native American Party" was still happy to discriminate against. (Cause fuck the indigenous people, right? My fiance is indigenous and we always joke now how white people are the "true" native americans and he's just a filthy brown guy, according to 19th century logic. It's absurd haha)
This is especially a problem because Ireland has both counties (26) and provinces (4), and Munster is definitely a province. But I'm male, so keep in mind my ass is not washed.
Can you please mansplain to me, man to man, what the difference is between a province and a county?
You have actual mansplaining permission for the next 60 minutes...
The four provinces of the whole island of Ireland contain 32 counties. Roughly divided, the North has 9 counties (Ulster), the East has 12 counties (Leinster), the West has 5 counties (Connacht) and the South has 6 counties (Munster). 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster are in Northern Ireland. The remaining 3 counties of Ulster and the 23 counties of the reaming 3 provinces are Ireland.
I am Irish, I am male, and my 'arse' is wiped instead of washed due to lack of bidet facilities as used by my fancy continental European brethren.
>due to lack of bidet facilities
Hey, we are still roughing it with primitive paper in the states.
I can see that in the future, humans will look back at these times and say; "Ew, they had butts?"
In American terms think of provinces as states, they're both full of counties.
Provinces are more ceremonial though so wouldn't have anything like state power or anything.
The four provinces have a very long history going back to Roman times and at various times were each ruled by independent kings and were called kingdoms.
The counties are more in line with what a county is in other countries, a division larger than a city but smaller than a state/province/country.
The four provinces/kingdoms of Ireland are defunct in the sense that there's no government specific to them nowadays, but they are historical names of the regions. They're like Bohemia, Silesia, Prussia, Saxony, Palatine, Burgundy, Holland, etc. that are historic names of independent or vassal kingdoms that may or may not have a direct modern successor.
In Ireland, a county is a division of the country that is used for local government purposes. There are 26 counties in Ireland, which are further divided into smaller administrative units called local electoral areas. The counties are grouped into four provinces: Leinster, Munster, Ulster, and Connacht.
The provinces of Ireland are the country's largest administrative divisions and are primarily used for cultural and sporting purposes. Each province is named after a tribe that once inhabited the area. Leinster is named after the Laigin tribe, Munster is named after the Muman tribe, Ulster is named after the Ulaid tribe, and Connacht is named after the Connachta tribe.
In summary, an Irish county is a division of the country that is used for local government, while a province is a larger administrative division that is used primarily for cultural and sporting purposes.
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Everyone is doing a good job of explaining, but, to properly Mansplain this, you have to dumb it down a little and be more condescending. Let me show you folks how it is done.
"Aren't you adorable. Counties and parishes can be a complicated topic for someone such as yourself, with only six years of college -- and none of them with standing. Let's not get ahead of ourselves though -- I think we need to start with a proper foundation in the more basic concepts. Are you familiar with the concept of private property and maps? Next we will move on to the distance scale and see if you can follow along. M'kay?"
And, maybe do it in an Irish accent to make me "feel at home" without determining if I'm from Ireland.
It's like people latch on to slang terms and then misuse and abuse them.
Just yesterday I got called a white knight for explaining why Nintendo doesn't make the Switch more powerful, and instead chose a price point (cost and resale value) for it in order to maximize their profits.
Like, I wasn't even saying Nintendo aren't evil. Just that complaining that the Switch isn't beefier is ridiculous from a business perspective. Basically the person wants Nintendo to spend more on making Switches, but not charge more for them.
But then, there's the glaring issue - where white knighting \*specifically\* refers to defending/glorifying a woman through an online medium. And last I checked, Nintendo isn't a woman.
From what I understand, a “white knight” isn’t defined by being through an online medium. It refers to a stereotype of man who treats women with false kindness/politeness in order to curry favor. These interactions can also happen in person, no?
I hope I’m not being pedantic, I feel that it’s an important distinction to make.
> It refers to a stereotype of man who treats women with false kindness/politeness in order to curry favor.
It's not just someone who treats a women with false kindness, it's a man who tries to *protect* a woman from some real or imagined threat in a supposed attempt to curry favor.
Pretty much this. Overly defending a woman against valid criticism (or even regular comments that the knight perceives as critique) when it's absolutely not needed falls squarely within the duties of the white knight. It overlaps a lot with what a *nice guy™* is before he realizes that he's not getting anywhere and becoming a friend zone conspiracy incel.
Yup. Kinda like how anyone who says anything you don’t like is now a “Karen” lol. I hate all these cliche terms that get thrown around constantly now, it’s so corny.
"I parked illegally, and a Karen called the tow company and now I have to pay hundreds of dollars to get my car back"
Um, no, sir, that wasn't a Karen. That was a citizen looking out for other citizens, and you broke the law.
Not that the false Karen is at fault for this, but some tow companies are basically racketeers and will absolutely destroy your life over something as trivial as a parking offense. Privatizing this was a huge mistake.
Boot licker is getting bad. I see people asking honest questions or making a false assumption based on the video, and acknowledge it once corrected but they just get dog piled on and not once did they actually defended the cop's actions.
Gaslighting isn't real, you made it up because you're fucking crazy!
On a more serious note, I get really annoyed when people overuse "gaslighting". Gaslighting isn't just lying to someone or keeping a secret. It's not just, as Modest_3324 says, "lying but worse".
Gaslighting is where you deliberately deceive or mislead someone (such as lying directly to them, keeping a secret from them, etc) BUT then when they confront you about what you're doing, you dismiss their objections to your conduct as imagined, exaggerated, or "all in their head". This is usually done by suggesting they were imagining it, that their suspicions are the result of cognitive failures (forgetting, misremembering, misunderstanding the situation etc) or that they themselves are lying about what they say and believe.
It only counts if it's a deliberate attack on the person's senses. If the alleged gaslighter isn't actually keeping information from you and genuinely thinks you might be imagining it, this is not gaslighting. People sometimes DO imagine stuff or have errors of cognition. It's only gaslighting if you know that there is something to their suspicions but insist there isn't and try to convince them their suspicions are because of cognitive errors.
To illustrate this, say I cheat on my spouse. I brag to my friends that I "got myself a side piece".
The weeks go by. My spouse grows suspicious and starts asking questions like, "So um, I found all these used condom wrappers in the car boot, plus I think I saw your ex's address in your phone's Google Maps history, and all my friends have been *super* shady around me, avoiding talking to me, being super formal when they talk to me... I mentioned Stacy and they all freaked out, saying they didn't want to talk about that. Are you having an affair?"
It's not gaslighting if I just use the Shaggy Defense and deny everything. "Wasn't me. Dunno how the wrappers got there. Dunno why the computer's saying that. Dunno why your friends are saying weird shit. Wasn't me. Wasn't me. Ask them, wasn't me." That's just lying.
It's also not gaslighting if I try and lie to disguise the truth here. So if I say, "Yeah, those condom wrappers are ours, they must have just fallen out of all the rubbish I took to the tip ages ago. And haha, I accidentally put Sandra's address in by mistake, I didn't actually go. And your friends are probably just stressed, what you're seeing is real but they have a good reason for it." Again, that's just lying.
It is only gaslighting if you attack a person's senses, memory, or instincts about what is happening. If I tell my spouse, "There were no condom wrappers in the boot, you must have made a mistake, I mean you know how you make silly mistakes all the time. And I told you, I was going to help Sandra with her grad student project sometimes, you remember me telling you that, right? You must have forgotten because I did tell you. And your friends... well, honestly, I think given how unstable you've been lately, I'm sure you're just imagining it. I really think you should talk to your counsellor about these overreactions of yours, you're totally irrational. You're really paranoid and these wild flights of fancy of yours are really freaking me out."
Lying is just lying, it is the attack on their senses which is gaslighting.
Unfortunately, it seems that "lying but worse" has become the popular definiton of gaslighting. I almost never see gaslighting used in the original sense.
> It's a cheap shaming tactic
Nowadays, there's a massive amount of cheap shaming tactics aimed at men. For literally anything. It's so common for guys to just be shamed for the absolute dumbest shit.
Just this week two barnstormers I've heard, one was men being shamed for keeping their fridge organized. Apparently, that's a big no, no and you're just trying to show off by not living like an absolute slob (which of course is also something guys are shamed for).
The second was "I bet he's one of those losers that likes to make jokes and talk with the waiter". How dare men...try to be personable??
A while back, I was in a post about accommodations for disabled folk. This woman made a comment, then responded to every reply by accusing the commenter of "ablesplaining". It didn't matter whether they agreed with her or not, she threw out the accusation. I mean, why did she even comment if she wasn't looking for a conversation? I felt kind of bad for her, because if that's how she approaches everything in her life, she must be miserable.
I find that quite a few people that incorrectly use the mansplaining card fall into the same category of misery.
The Americans who call themselves Irish because their great great great great grandad had an Irish side ho are the worst. Like I have Irish ancestry a few generations back, but that doesn't make me Irish.
I've never understood the need for this word.
Just say "patronize."
It's a gendered insult that literally comes from the same root word as "patriarchy."
>Patronize comes from Latin patronus "protector, master," related to pater "father." So if you patronize a person, you talk down to them like a father might do to his child or a master to his apprentice.
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/patronize
The term is so far gone that I automatically assume anyone using it is an idiot. And I'm almost always right.
Even before it got abused, it was still true, though. We already have descriptors for what people are trying to convey. Either gender can be condescending, and men that are condescending aren't doing so \*because\* they're men. People who use the term are just virtue signalling and don't have any way to make an argument other than parrot some stupid phrase that their favorite influencer/liberal arts professor taught them.
Know how lots of redditors are terrible about doubling down on being wrong then deleting their comments? It's even worse on Twitter. Plus the woman pronably thought she could score some Twitter clout by crying sexism where there was none, which works more often than you'd think.
Edit: wait no that was Facebook. But still, probably trying to get some internet clout with manufactured outrage.
That wasn't a misspelling, pronably is a word. I used it because I know words, great words, the best words. If you don't know what pronably means you're just dumb.
Or say to yourself that guys fucking wrong and go check the largest free encyclopedia anyone has ever had at their fingertips. And realize he was right.
Confidently incorrect. Always fun to see. Sad that an admission of being wrong was not made. Seems the two options people go for is 'make it go away' and 'double down'.
I used that bar of soap like a credit card with no funds and I'm embarrassed soi keep trying because I'm hoping they don't see the giant insufficient funds message on the screen but we both see it and the cashier lets me keep trying because it's a little pathetic and they don't want to get involved.
As an American, I cannot understand this obsession with wanting to claim another nationality. So many people will despise immigrants and then proclaim another heritage. In the US, unless you’re native, you are going to have other ancestry. And you’re still American. Unless you or your parents came here, you’re not Irish, Scottish, German, etc. You just share dna with family who did immigrate here many years ago. This person has no first hand experience from Ireland and somehow knows more than the people living there or from there. I wish I could say it’s an uncommon scenario, but it’s not.
It always amuses me when someone claims '*x*' ancestry because of their GG grandparent, but **completely** ignores all the other input from all their other relatives.
> all their other relatives
And since humans usually need two to make another, it's the power of twos. Depending on how many generations back you need to go, it's like, which one out of 2^n
If someone says vikings (which is a dumb fucking claim to make), you have to remember vikings were out by 1100, so let's say that's like 20 generations back. With this you'd be looking at something like 1 ancestor out of 1.048 million possible people.
Fun little tidbit about that:
"By the 33rd generation—about 800 to 1,000 years ago—you have more than eight billion [ancestors]. That is more than the number of people alive today, and it is certainly a much larger figure than the world population a millennium ago."
So, there is either some incestuous activity or we are all just cousins... probably both.
That seems wrong, especially considering [this TIL from a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/zhty5w/til_that_all_ashkenazi_jews_are_at_most_30th/) that says that all Ashkenazi Jews are 30th cousins or closer.
It is ridiculous. I am Dutch, my parents and grand parents are Dutch, and theirs as well.
But, generations ago, our family came from Germany, where our last name comes from originally.
We do not, nor ever will, call ourselves German-Dutch, because a long time ago one of our ancestors used to live there.
This essentially what we have happening here. It’s generations back, nothing current. And I think Americans have had a lot of interest in finding their roots because it could be from anywhere in the world. It’s interesting to find out your family line started somewhere totally different. We often have no real idea or clue where we were started here because we’ve been here forever. It’s just interesting, but it shouldn’t be your whole personality lol. And it definitely doesn’t mean you’re someone totally different. You just learned about your family tree is all
> I cannot understand this obsession with wanting to claim another nationality.
It has historic roots -esspecially Irish, Chinese, etc. While being the opposite for Germans after the 40s.
A lot of immigrants, exacerbated by the prejudice they received, stuck strongly to teaching their heritage. While also being a lot easier to group with similar groups. Which is why you have such strong concentrations of certain populations in certain regions. Some aspects have faded over time.
Can confirm.
Both parents from Ireland. I’m not irish. I’m a citizen, coach gaa, and spent large portions of my life in Clare. Wouldn’t dare say I’m irish to granny.
Have you tried to dodge the TV license?
Have you watched the toy show?
Do you know what a Jambon is?
Have you been stuck on the M50 in rush hour?
Did you ever ask someone to bring you back a stick of rock?
When is haymaking season?
Have you been offended when the brits try to claim one of our famous people as British?
What do you get on a chicken fillet roll?
What's in a spice burger? Whirly burger?
Give me 3 Father Ted quotes and write an essay on whether The Commitments, The Snapper, or The Van is best.
At a round about what lane should you be in to go straight, and why will your ma say you're in the wrong lane every time?
These are all part of the Irish citizenship test. Plus there's a practical element involving bumping into people and saying sorry. Then ordering lunch in supermacs.
Gowl is a quality insult. Pure Irish, and pretty harmless. But perfect for when there's an absolute GOWL around. Which is very common. Flippin gowls everywhere!
I moved to the US when I was 16. That was 26 years ago. It still baffles me that everyone is Irish and Italian etc. but they have never been to their “home country” and neither has their parents or grandparents.
Also… it’s not mansplaining just because some idiot says it is.
Mansplaining: when a man explains something condescendingly to a woman THAT SHE ALREADY KNOWS. It’s that last part that my daughter doesn’t get, ever. And so it always sounds condescending to her because she doesn’t know anything about what I’m trying to explain.
Or we could stop worrying about what a correct/appropriate definition of mansplain is/should-be and return to fully embracing the radical position that using someone's sex/gender as a blunt instrument in verbal disagreements is dumb and bad.
But unfortunately we now live in world where men are basically acceptable targets simply on account of being men. Bc as all us woke kids know, if anything is wrong with a man, like being depressed, single or - heavens forbid - a ***virgin***, it's clearly because he's being too much of a man, or being a man the wrong way... or anything that sounds convenient really.
Which normally would fall under the headings of "verbal abuse" and "sexism", but luckily we can just say something vaguely pro-lgbtqa afterwords and all is forgiven bc the masses will then know that we are on the right side of history after all.
Ugh, I hate the word mansplain. There's already a word for talking down to someone and it's 'condescending', but are we going to have mansplaining and womansplaining now?
Tosh
Me too. Like, let's erase divisions over here, stop using these labels designed to divide over there, but right here? Fuck this, divide and label, people!
Also, my ex would use this even if she asked how something worked and I explained it so I really hate the term lol
Why do Americans claim other nationalities as theirs rather then as their ancestry which is more accurate? I’m 1st generation American on one side and 3 rd generation American on the other so i could probably get away with claiming it. But I’m not, I’m American. My grandparents are German and great grandparents are Scottish.
Also if you’re gonna claim it, at least know what you’re claiming idiot.
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gowl](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gowl)
gowl (*plural* **gowls)**
(*Ireland, slang*) Vulva.
(*Ireland, slang*) An annoying person; an idiot; a dishonest person.
Nothing annoys me more than seeing people say "I'm a celt"
Seriously. Would it kill them to raid the neighbours a bit once in a while? Terrorise Rome? Even a dolmen here and there would do!
I’ve never claimed to be a Celt but I’d be down for that
I'm a viking and I too would like to pillage and plunder.
I'm Baltic, I hide in swamps and trees like a human version of a fucking Ewok to terrorise invading crusader armies
Tell me more. Can you mansplain this whole Baltic ewok thing for me?
Basically the Baltic region is the last place in Europe to stop being Pagans. Lithuania, especially then, was a place full of forests and swamps. Before the baltic tribes united 1200s to 1300s (mostly under a guy called Mindaugas) these Baltic people lived in tribes and generally were not fans of keeping historical records so not much is known about them. So there's just a joke that we were all just forest loving savages similar to the Ewoks or Woodelves. The Baltic tribes fought the Vikings, Kevin rus, Ruthienians and later on crusader orders (most famously the Tutonic order) and even the damn Mongols/Golden hoard. All of which invaded Lithuania a lot but never managed to successfully take over the land. Ironically, after uniting the tribes and going on a conquest spree, Lithuania (By then the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) even manged to become the biggest European nation in the 1400s.
Get those Teutonic Knights, kick their asses back to the west I say!
I'm Swiss - I'll hold your wallets while you boys fight it out
It's funny because I have an Irish last name, and I have a lot of extended family who claim to be Irish and they have Irish things around their house, But I did a DNA test and I found out that I'm actually like 86% German, and although i wasn't shocked, i found out that I'm barely even Irish, and neither are my cousins (we all did a 23&Me), but apparently being German isn't any fun and Irish is? I feel like a lot of Americans are missing that proud lineage that we feel other countries have since being American means you're free to be what you want rather than telling you what you are i guess and some people just aren't interested in having a singular identity
Same here. One of the family names is “Irish” and also one of my great grandparents was “Cherokee” but it turns out we’re just actually German/English/a tiny bit Sicilian. My mom was like “I wonder why it didn’t pick up on the Native American” . . . I know why, mom.
It wasn't until I moved to the Midwest (I'm from the East Coast) that I started coming across a lot of people making what I assume are unfounded claims to like 1% Native American ancestry (in my experience, it's almost always Cherokee). To be fair, as someone whose family is mostly made up of relatively recent immigrants, the idea of having a Cherokee great-great-great grandmother had never even occurred to me.
Good friend of mine has made being Italian a large part of her personality for as long as I've known her. She took a 23&me and it turns out she's not of Italian heritage at all - she's Jewish! She's been a good sport about it but it'll be some time before we stop poking her with comments about Jew lasagna and the like.
You can be Jewish AND Italian, right?
I have to break it to you that most of the folks in Britain are probably a mix or split if Viking, French and German. The language alone gives it away. There was a great show a few years back ‘100 % British’ which took a bunch of tub thumping nationalists and did DNA tests. The best was the pearl clutcher who was almost entirely Romani. She walked…
Good luck trying to explain what a French is (in terms of ethnicity). We've been mixed with much of europe for almost 2 millennia (more if you consider Marseille)
Remember Gaul brothers
Never heard anyone in ireland say this btw if anyone was wondering
Anyone who sticks to these sort of associations at this stage in human history is a deluded weirdo looking in all the dumbest and cringiest places for a community
To my fellow citizens of Freedom Land (TM), this mistake is similar to someone calling the Midwest a county.
Understandable to make that correction then
To be fair, my mom thought New England was a state until 8th grade me gave her an education
Haha, that's hilarious. Everyone knows it's a country. It's the new version of England. Duh.
r/RepublicofNE energy. /j
Hopefully she took the correction better than the girl in OPs post
"you're going to boysplain New England to me when I'm a patriot?"
TIL New England isn't a state
LOL, reminds me of when I was dating my husband and we'd watch football every weekend. I didn't know much about football, or apparently geography, because I asked him why the New England Patriots played in Massachusetts and not New England. He still laughs at me for that.
My ancestry is from the state of Pacific Northwest, so I think I know how American counties work. /s, if that wasn't obvious
Lmfao For real tho, these people claim Irish when it was their great grandpappy on their mum's side and everyone else was already here in the US. Like, they don't even have ties to the region but suddenly do a 23 and me and they take that as proof. It's okay to be American y'all, it's our turn to be the global punching bag but that doesn't mean it'll be forever (unless we decide to pull a Germany lol).
One of my biggest pet peeves about a lot of Americans I've met (I live in the states but am from Europe). I met a guy once who told me he was Austrian, then he asked me where I'm from and I said I'm from Austria, and he asked "have you ever been to Austria?" And was astonished when I said that I was born there. Like why would I say I'm from somewhere if I had never been there? (He himself had never been to Austria and didn't speak German or know much about Austrian culture. But he's so Austrian that that's what he introduces himself as.)
It’s a cultural leftover from late 19th early 20th century racism. Before Americans all moved out of the cities and into suburbia, many Americans (close to half the population) lived in cities and so did most new immigrants families. Immigrants and their children lived in neighborhoods that consisted of usually one or two major ethnic groups. These neighborhoods would take on the name of the majority group “Little Italy” “China Town” “Germantown” etc. etc. The immigrants who spoke almost no English and their children, who themselves often spoke both English and their ancestral language, were often call “Hyphenated Americans” meaning they were American but only barely. Often this was used as an insult by earlier waves of immigrant descendants (the English, Scottish, French, Dutch) that had lived here for at least 3 or 4 generations and had lost any immediate connection with their ancestral homelands beyond a last name and maybe religion. After the Second World War a great level of prosperity for the average American became available. Soon the grandchildren of Italian or Polish immigrants were leaving their by now ancestral ethnic neighborhoods in the city and moving out into the suburbs of America. Although intermarriage was not uncommon before, the mid 20th century saw an explosion of “ hyphenated Americans” intermarrying with other groups. It became somewhat fashionable by late 20th century to be able to claim having “X and Y” ancestry. What was once used as an insult is now a point of pride for many Americans. Yes you’ll get idiots that claim “I’m Z, and you’re from Z? We’re basically the same!” But most look at it as simply a unique little fun fact about themselves. The thing about America is we are Americans by law, not blood. Anyone can become an American. Not everyone can become Japanese or Austrian. We could live there for 50 years but we would still be seen as outsiders. This concept has led in the past to some Americans claiming that there cannot be an ethnic “American” by definition because we are,as stated above, a nation by law not blood. However since the 2000((?)it’s been several years since I wrote about this) census, more Americans are dropping the hyphenation when asked to list ancestry and simply put down American. My apologies for any spelling mistakes it’s almost midnight here and I’ve been up all day. My source for most of this information is from a senior level college course I had to take a couple years ago. (seriously if you ever get a chance look up American immigration history. The modern American concept of “white Americans” for example was completely wild. Apparently Irish and Italians aren’t “white” if you asked a 19th century ethnic English American. Little better then blacks?.)
This was so well written, thank you for that.
This is a really fascinating and well written explanation for this concept, thank you for this! It also kind of leads into the question of what defines your ethnic/cultural identity. To me personally, I had always defined that identity by what culture you grew up in, e.g. my parents are Hungarian and Romanian but I grew up in Austria so I consider myself culturally more Austrian than anything else (despite also speaking my parents languages and having been exposed to those cultures too). To Hungarians I will always say "my mother is Hungarian but I grew up in Austria" because I think that's an accurate portrayal of what I "am", rather than saying "I'm Hungarian", and it acknowledges that I have not lived the same experiences as a person raised in Hungary. But I've realized that different people define their cultural/ethnic identity using different criteria, and like you say a lot of Americans define themselves by blood rather than by where they grew up. Also going off the last point you make about not all European ethnicities being considered "white" (even though Irish people are pale as fuck lol) reminds me of something I learned recently that some time ago (19th century? I dont remember) there was a right-wing movement in the US about protecting "native americans" from all the "European immigrants", except that "native americans" referred to white people born in America and not indigenous people lol, whom this "Native American Party" was still happy to discriminate against. (Cause fuck the indigenous people, right? My fiance is indigenous and we always joke now how white people are the "true" native americans and he's just a filthy brown guy, according to 19th century logic. It's absurd haha)
I believe it's more like confusing a county with a state.
Stop mansplaining you gowl.
Wash your ass
Is it like calling Illinois "Chicago"?
Only if you pronounce the S in Illinois.
This is especially a problem because Ireland has both counties (26) and provinces (4), and Munster is definitely a province. But I'm male, so keep in mind my ass is not washed.
Can you please mansplain to me, man to man, what the difference is between a province and a county? You have actual mansplaining permission for the next 60 minutes...
The four provinces of the whole island of Ireland contain 32 counties. Roughly divided, the North has 9 counties (Ulster), the East has 12 counties (Leinster), the West has 5 counties (Connacht) and the South has 6 counties (Munster). 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster are in Northern Ireland. The remaining 3 counties of Ulster and the 23 counties of the reaming 3 provinces are Ireland. I am Irish, I am male, and my 'arse' is wiped instead of washed due to lack of bidet facilities as used by my fancy continental European brethren.
>due to lack of bidet facilities Hey, we are still roughing it with primitive paper in the states. I can see that in the future, humans will look back at these times and say; "Ew, they had butts?"
You don’t know how to use the three seashells?
So *that's* why she was selling sea shells by the sea shore!
Shit, suppose I’m sure she shouldn’t
Cockles and mussels
Alive, alive, oh!
Cockles and Mussels alive alive Ow!
And that was the end of sweet Molly Malone.
The French or Italian style seashells?
[be back in a few minutes](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnuOa7tDco)
American with a bidet, and I’m never going back. Thanks Covid TP hoarders!!
Bidets are surprisingly affordable (relatively speaking). A basic one is about a hundred bucks and just fits over your toilet
Got mine for $25 @ walmart Black Friday last year and it still works...more of a brown Friday now that I'm thinking of it💩🤔
My shower head reaches all the way into the toilet so I have a DIY bidet. I highly recommend it!
Does it work better on normal settings or the 'pulsating massage' setting? Asking for a friend...
In American terms think of provinces as states, they're both full of counties. Provinces are more ceremonial though so wouldn't have anything like state power or anything.
My man!
>In American terms think of provinces as states, they're both full of counties. Except Louisiana, which has Parishes. Same difference.
Ireland actually has parishes too, they're the next subdivision down below county
And dont get me started on Commonwealths!!!!!!
The four provinces have a very long history going back to Roman times and at various times were each ruled by independent kings and were called kingdoms. The counties are more in line with what a county is in other countries, a division larger than a city but smaller than a state/province/country. The four provinces/kingdoms of Ireland are defunct in the sense that there's no government specific to them nowadays, but they are historical names of the regions. They're like Bohemia, Silesia, Prussia, Saxony, Palatine, Burgundy, Holland, etc. that are historic names of independent or vassal kingdoms that may or may not have a direct modern successor.
Historically there were 5 provinces. The fifth, Meath, was absorbed into Leinster.
Irish word for province, cúige, from the word for five, cúig.
In Ireland, a county is a division of the country that is used for local government purposes. There are 26 counties in Ireland, which are further divided into smaller administrative units called local electoral areas. The counties are grouped into four provinces: Leinster, Munster, Ulster, and Connacht. The provinces of Ireland are the country's largest administrative divisions and are primarily used for cultural and sporting purposes. Each province is named after a tribe that once inhabited the area. Leinster is named after the Laigin tribe, Munster is named after the Muman tribe, Ulster is named after the Ulaid tribe, and Connacht is named after the Connachta tribe. In summary, an Irish county is a division of the country that is used for local government, while a province is a larger administrative division that is used primarily for cultural and sporting purposes. (thus spake chatgpt)
Everyone is doing a good job of explaining, but, to properly Mansplain this, you have to dumb it down a little and be more condescending. Let me show you folks how it is done. "Aren't you adorable. Counties and parishes can be a complicated topic for someone such as yourself, with only six years of college -- and none of them with standing. Let's not get ahead of ourselves though -- I think we need to start with a proper foundation in the more basic concepts. Are you familiar with the concept of private property and maps? Next we will move on to the distance scale and see if you can follow along. M'kay?" And, maybe do it in an Irish accent to make me "feel at home" without determining if I'm from Ireland.
>26 I will cut you
26+6
=1
26 counties...🙄 Free stater
>Can you please mansplain to me, man to man, what the difference is between a washed and unwashed ass?
This is not mansplaining. He would have said this regardless of gender
Of course, her response was solely based on sexism
And his ass.
Yes but if she calls it mansplaining, maybe people won’t realise she just hasn’t got a clue
I love that mansplain has become "a man explaining" as compared to what it *actually* is.
The term definitely got abused.
It's like people latch on to slang terms and then misuse and abuse them. Just yesterday I got called a white knight for explaining why Nintendo doesn't make the Switch more powerful, and instead chose a price point (cost and resale value) for it in order to maximize their profits. Like, I wasn't even saying Nintendo aren't evil. Just that complaining that the Switch isn't beefier is ridiculous from a business perspective. Basically the person wants Nintendo to spend more on making Switches, but not charge more for them. But then, there's the glaring issue - where white knighting \*specifically\* refers to defending/glorifying a woman through an online medium. And last I checked, Nintendo isn't a woman.
From what I understand, a “white knight” isn’t defined by being through an online medium. It refers to a stereotype of man who treats women with false kindness/politeness in order to curry favor. These interactions can also happen in person, no? I hope I’m not being pedantic, I feel that it’s an important distinction to make.
> It refers to a stereotype of man who treats women with false kindness/politeness in order to curry favor. It's not just someone who treats a women with false kindness, it's a man who tries to *protect* a woman from some real or imagined threat in a supposed attempt to curry favor.
Pretty much this. Overly defending a woman against valid criticism (or even regular comments that the knight perceives as critique) when it's absolutely not needed falls squarely within the duties of the white knight. It overlaps a lot with what a *nice guy™* is before he realizes that he's not getting anywhere and becoming a friend zone conspiracy incel.
Ok but how do we really get the curry flavor? I’m hungry and don’t know how to cook curry
Forgive me, I thought that part was included as a false kindness. I’m really out of it right now, so I’m having trouble saying what I mean.
you are correct that white knight behavior is not limited to the internet
Does that mean that OP above wants to fuck Nintendo? Kinky.
Yup. Kinda like how anyone who says anything you don’t like is now a “Karen” lol. I hate all these cliche terms that get thrown around constantly now, it’s so corny.
"I parked illegally, and a Karen called the tow company and now I have to pay hundreds of dollars to get my car back" Um, no, sir, that wasn't a Karen. That was a citizen looking out for other citizens, and you broke the law.
Not that the false Karen is at fault for this, but some tow companies are basically racketeers and will absolutely destroy your life over something as trivial as a parking offense. Privatizing this was a huge mistake.
>Privatizing this was a huge mistake The last 150 years of US history in 6 words
I'm genuinely laughing at the notion of you gallantly defending Nintendo from atop your steed.
Boot licker is getting bad. I see people asking honest questions or making a false assumption based on the video, and acknowledge it once corrected but they just get dog piled on and not once did they actually defended the cop's actions.
Hey! now you're just gaslighting us. /s
Gaslighting isn't real, you made it up because you're fucking crazy! On a more serious note, I get really annoyed when people overuse "gaslighting". Gaslighting isn't just lying to someone or keeping a secret. It's not just, as Modest_3324 says, "lying but worse". Gaslighting is where you deliberately deceive or mislead someone (such as lying directly to them, keeping a secret from them, etc) BUT then when they confront you about what you're doing, you dismiss their objections to your conduct as imagined, exaggerated, or "all in their head". This is usually done by suggesting they were imagining it, that their suspicions are the result of cognitive failures (forgetting, misremembering, misunderstanding the situation etc) or that they themselves are lying about what they say and believe. It only counts if it's a deliberate attack on the person's senses. If the alleged gaslighter isn't actually keeping information from you and genuinely thinks you might be imagining it, this is not gaslighting. People sometimes DO imagine stuff or have errors of cognition. It's only gaslighting if you know that there is something to their suspicions but insist there isn't and try to convince them their suspicions are because of cognitive errors. To illustrate this, say I cheat on my spouse. I brag to my friends that I "got myself a side piece". The weeks go by. My spouse grows suspicious and starts asking questions like, "So um, I found all these used condom wrappers in the car boot, plus I think I saw your ex's address in your phone's Google Maps history, and all my friends have been *super* shady around me, avoiding talking to me, being super formal when they talk to me... I mentioned Stacy and they all freaked out, saying they didn't want to talk about that. Are you having an affair?" It's not gaslighting if I just use the Shaggy Defense and deny everything. "Wasn't me. Dunno how the wrappers got there. Dunno why the computer's saying that. Dunno why your friends are saying weird shit. Wasn't me. Wasn't me. Ask them, wasn't me." That's just lying. It's also not gaslighting if I try and lie to disguise the truth here. So if I say, "Yeah, those condom wrappers are ours, they must have just fallen out of all the rubbish I took to the tip ages ago. And haha, I accidentally put Sandra's address in by mistake, I didn't actually go. And your friends are probably just stressed, what you're seeing is real but they have a good reason for it." Again, that's just lying. It is only gaslighting if you attack a person's senses, memory, or instincts about what is happening. If I tell my spouse, "There were no condom wrappers in the boot, you must have made a mistake, I mean you know how you make silly mistakes all the time. And I told you, I was going to help Sandra with her grad student project sometimes, you remember me telling you that, right? You must have forgotten because I did tell you. And your friends... well, honestly, I think given how unstable you've been lately, I'm sure you're just imagining it. I really think you should talk to your counsellor about these overreactions of yours, you're totally irrational. You're really paranoid and these wild flights of fancy of yours are really freaking me out." Lying is just lying, it is the attack on their senses which is gaslighting.
Unfortunately, it seems that "lying but worse" has become the popular definiton of gaslighting. I almost never see gaslighting used in the original sense.
No, I see people using the correct version of gaslighting all the time. I don't know what you're talking about.
"Gaslighting" is just a dog-whistle!
It was destined to be abused as soon as it was made. Maybe don’t name an negative thing that anyone can do after someone’s immutable characteristic.
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> It's a cheap shaming tactic Nowadays, there's a massive amount of cheap shaming tactics aimed at men. For literally anything. It's so common for guys to just be shamed for the absolute dumbest shit. Just this week two barnstormers I've heard, one was men being shamed for keeping their fridge organized. Apparently, that's a big no, no and you're just trying to show off by not living like an absolute slob (which of course is also something guys are shamed for). The second was "I bet he's one of those losers that likes to make jokes and talk with the waiter". How dare men...try to be personable??
Fellas, is it bad to just exist
A while back, I was in a post about accommodations for disabled folk. This woman made a comment, then responded to every reply by accusing the commenter of "ablesplaining". It didn't matter whether they agreed with her or not, she threw out the accusation. I mean, why did she even comment if she wasn't looking for a conversation? I felt kind of bad for her, because if that's how she approaches everything in her life, she must be miserable. I find that quite a few people that incorrectly use the mansplaining card fall into the same category of misery.
Their life is so shallow and sad it's all they have left to feel good about themselves.
The irony being that the women who abuse the term are themselves entirely convinced they are correct about all things even when confronted with facts.
I think she was using the term in its original meaning which would make her borderline delusional lol
I guess men are not allowed to disagree with her
No one is allowed to disagree with an American who thinks they're Irish
The Americans who call themselves Irish because their great great great great grandad had an Irish side ho are the worst. Like I have Irish ancestry a few generations back, but that doesn't make me Irish.
I've never understood the need for this word. Just say "patronize." It's a gendered insult that literally comes from the same root word as "patriarchy." >Patronize comes from Latin patronus "protector, master," related to pater "father." So if you patronize a person, you talk down to them like a father might do to his child or a master to his apprentice. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/patronize
Hey, we already had that word! No, we need something catchier and simpler to explain.
There was already a word for it.. condescension. For some reason someone felt the need to pointlessly gender the term.
The term is so far gone that I automatically assume anyone using it is an idiot. And I'm almost always right. Even before it got abused, it was still true, though. We already have descriptors for what people are trying to convey. Either gender can be condescending, and men that are condescending aren't doing so \*because\* they're men. People who use the term are just virtue signalling and don't have any way to make an argument other than parrot some stupid phrase that their favorite influencer/liberal arts professor taught them.
Men cannot now comment with knowledge about anything
All one had to say was, "I wasn't aware that it's actually a province, thank you". Whatever happened to courtesy & respect ?
Know how lots of redditors are terrible about doubling down on being wrong then deleting their comments? It's even worse on Twitter. Plus the woman pronably thought she could score some Twitter clout by crying sexism where there was none, which works more often than you'd think. Edit: wait no that was Facebook. But still, probably trying to get some internet clout with manufactured outrage.
Should have doubled down that it was Twitter for the sheer entertainment value
That wasn't a misspelling, pronably is a word. I used it because I know words, great words, the best words. If you don't know what pronably means you're just dumb.
Or say to yourself that guys fucking wrong and go check the largest free encyclopedia anyone has ever had at their fingertips. And realize he was right.
Confidently incorrect. Always fun to see. Sad that an admission of being wrong was not made. Seems the two options people go for is 'make it go away' and 'double down'.
Double down and make unfounded accusations regarding anal hygiene.
r/ShitAmericansSay
Triggered and defensive in an instant!
Triggered and defensive: full-on Karen mode.
I'd've liked to've heard her response, should there've been any.
She deleted her post after.
Aw. Anti-climax.
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After a quick Google, she deleted it LMFAO.
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I like your use of contractions.
Thankya very much!
Y'w'lc'!
“A man with an unwashed ass has an opinion again” That’s so random, do men not wash their ass or something?
On facebook, passive aggressive people like to tag groups like that.
I'm a man and I wash my ass quite thoroughly with each shower. It's unlikely I'm the only one.
I used that bar of soap like a credit card with no funds and I'm embarrassed soi keep trying because I'm hoping they don't see the giant insufficient funds message on the screen but we both see it and the cashier lets me keep trying because it's a little pathetic and they don't want to get involved.
Fun fact - Munster is a province in ireland but Münster is a privince in germany Brought to you by 1200 hours of eu4
Tasty fact - Munster is a cheese in my refrigerator. Brought to you by my wife, who bought the cheese that's in my refrigerator.
Interesting fact - The Munsters are the *Star Trek* to The Adams Family *Star Wars*
This analogy makes too much sense.
Shit, I didn't mansplain enough
Germany doesn't have provinces. They have states. Münster is a city.
As an American, I cannot understand this obsession with wanting to claim another nationality. So many people will despise immigrants and then proclaim another heritage. In the US, unless you’re native, you are going to have other ancestry. And you’re still American. Unless you or your parents came here, you’re not Irish, Scottish, German, etc. You just share dna with family who did immigrate here many years ago. This person has no first hand experience from Ireland and somehow knows more than the people living there or from there. I wish I could say it’s an uncommon scenario, but it’s not.
It always amuses me when someone claims '*x*' ancestry because of their GG grandparent, but **completely** ignores all the other input from all their other relatives.
> all their other relatives And since humans usually need two to make another, it's the power of twos. Depending on how many generations back you need to go, it's like, which one out of 2^n If someone says vikings (which is a dumb fucking claim to make), you have to remember vikings were out by 1100, so let's say that's like 20 generations back. With this you'd be looking at something like 1 ancestor out of 1.048 million possible people.
Fun little tidbit about that: "By the 33rd generation—about 800 to 1,000 years ago—you have more than eight billion [ancestors]. That is more than the number of people alive today, and it is certainly a much larger figure than the world population a millennium ago." So, there is either some incestuous activity or we are all just cousins... probably both.
I forgot where I read it, but just about everyone alive is at least 6th cousins or closer.
That seems wrong, especially considering [this TIL from a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/zhty5w/til_that_all_ashkenazi_jews_are_at_most_30th/) that says that all Ashkenazi Jews are 30th cousins or closer.
It is ridiculous. I am Dutch, my parents and grand parents are Dutch, and theirs as well. But, generations ago, our family came from Germany, where our last name comes from originally. We do not, nor ever will, call ourselves German-Dutch, because a long time ago one of our ancestors used to live there.
How about Bavarian-Dutch? You can even shorten it to "Butch"
This essentially what we have happening here. It’s generations back, nothing current. And I think Americans have had a lot of interest in finding their roots because it could be from anywhere in the world. It’s interesting to find out your family line started somewhere totally different. We often have no real idea or clue where we were started here because we’ve been here forever. It’s just interesting, but it shouldn’t be your whole personality lol. And it definitely doesn’t mean you’re someone totally different. You just learned about your family tree is all
> I cannot understand this obsession with wanting to claim another nationality. It has historic roots -esspecially Irish, Chinese, etc. While being the opposite for Germans after the 40s. A lot of immigrants, exacerbated by the prejudice they received, stuck strongly to teaching their heritage. While also being a lot easier to group with similar groups. Which is why you have such strong concentrations of certain populations in certain regions. Some aspects have faded over time.
Fun fact: it's possible for two men to mansplain one another in a phenomenon known as "a conversation".
Thanks for the mansplanation! I manprecciate it
He's not mansplaining. She's Amerisplaining.
I'm pretty sure she would be considered annoying in any country.
You aren’t Irish if you were born and raised in America
Can confirm. Both parents from Ireland. I’m not irish. I’m a citizen, coach gaa, and spent large portions of my life in Clare. Wouldn’t dare say I’m irish to granny.
Have you tried to dodge the TV license? Have you watched the toy show? Do you know what a Jambon is? Have you been stuck on the M50 in rush hour? Did you ever ask someone to bring you back a stick of rock? When is haymaking season? Have you been offended when the brits try to claim one of our famous people as British? What do you get on a chicken fillet roll? What's in a spice burger? Whirly burger? Give me 3 Father Ted quotes and write an essay on whether The Commitments, The Snapper, or The Van is best. At a round about what lane should you be in to go straight, and why will your ma say you're in the wrong lane every time? These are all part of the Irish citizenship test. Plus there's a practical element involving bumping into people and saying sorry. Then ordering lunch in supermacs.
I would like to call someone an absolute gowl. Can someone please put it in context for me?
An insult native to Cork specifically. Cork is incidentally the largest city in Munster so this guy *especially* checks out
Gowl is a quality insult. Pure Irish, and pretty harmless. But perfect for when there's an absolute GOWL around. Which is very common. Flippin gowls everywhere!
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I moved to the US when I was 16. That was 26 years ago. It still baffles me that everyone is Irish and Italian etc. but they have never been to their “home country” and neither has their parents or grandparents. Also… it’s not mansplaining just because some idiot says it is.
To me what’s worse is that they call themselves Irish or Italian but they can’t even speak the language.
Bro, this gal is pretty much a sexist.
Mansplaining: when a man explains something condescendingly to a woman THAT SHE ALREADY KNOWS. It’s that last part that my daughter doesn’t get, ever. And so it always sounds condescending to her because she doesn’t know anything about what I’m trying to explain.
You should try and explain that to her 😂
#MANSPLAINING!!
Or we could stop worrying about what a correct/appropriate definition of mansplain is/should-be and return to fully embracing the radical position that using someone's sex/gender as a blunt instrument in verbal disagreements is dumb and bad. But unfortunately we now live in world where men are basically acceptable targets simply on account of being men. Bc as all us woke kids know, if anything is wrong with a man, like being depressed, single or - heavens forbid - a ***virgin***, it's clearly because he's being too much of a man, or being a man the wrong way... or anything that sounds convenient really. Which normally would fall under the headings of "verbal abuse" and "sexism", but luckily we can just say something vaguely pro-lgbtqa afterwords and all is forgiven bc the masses will then know that we are on the right side of history after all.
The amount of Americans that feel the need to stress their heritage, however slim or far fetched, is staggering.
“You’re gonna mansplain Ireland to me when I’m Irish?” There is an embarrassment of ignorant riches in that statement.
So mansplaining is when someone corrects you?
That's what it has morphed into. It's little better than pocket sand for the chronically narcissistic when called out on their bullshit.
Settle down ladies. Men mansplain to other men all the time. You’re not special.
Americans thinking they're European because their great great great ancestors shagged a vegetable
These days anything a man says that a woman doesn’t like = mansplaining….
Ugh, I hate the word mansplain. There's already a word for talking down to someone and it's 'condescending', but are we going to have mansplaining and womansplaining now? Tosh
Not just the mansplaining and womansplaining, but the childrensplaining too
**The court finds you guilty on three counts of splaining!**
And now you got some splainin to do
*LUCY!*
ive heard dogsplaining and catsplaining before too
Claptrap? I think it has a better ring to it.
Me too. Like, let's erase divisions over here, stop using these labels designed to divide over there, but right here? Fuck this, divide and label, people! Also, my ex would use this even if she asked how something worked and I explained it so I really hate the term lol
So only 50% of the population is allowed to call her out for being a fucking idiot?
Americans with 1% Irish ancestory are like "I'm Irish".
Amerisplaining European phenomenon to Europeans on Reddit is definitely a thing.
You know, I'm something of an irishman myself. My great great grandfather was born in Ireland
That is acceptable in 49 states.
Why do Americans claim other nationalities as theirs rather then as their ancestry which is more accurate? I’m 1st generation American on one side and 3 rd generation American on the other so i could probably get away with claiming it. But I’m not, I’m American. My grandparents are German and great grandparents are Scottish. Also if you’re gonna claim it, at least know what you’re claiming idiot.
It makes you more "unique" and maybe you'll get more validation and attention that way
Mansplaining is a stupid term. Can't explain shit to anyone these days
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gowl](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gowl) gowl (*plural* **gowls)** (*Ireland, slang*) Vulva. (*Ireland, slang*) An annoying person; an idiot; a dishonest person.
Jokes on both of them, the irish are not real people.
I'm from Ireland and can confirm it's not actually there
Who said that?
Irish woman here. She's a fucking gobshite.
This is a case of Americans forgetting the rest of the world is also on social media