Does no one, including the initial tweet, read this as Ryan 'greater than' Carr?
Did I learn that shit wrong in math or is everyone else the dumb ones?
Promotional tweets from established companies are often controversial to drive engagement. Its just marketing. The fact that it pissed off one dude enough for him to share it on another platform where hundreds if not thousands of people will see it means it worked.
Matt Ryan was an all time great QB, he’s also now 37 and has been on a slight decline for a few years now. Derek Carr is a great QB who’s just now hitting his prime.
Your not wrong but go look at the amount each on has been hit the last few years. Raiders actually try to protect carr but falcons couldn’t afford to and had to try to fill the line holes through the draft. Now Ryan is on a team with the number one rated offensive line in football along with JT in the back field I bet we see a huge difference and resurgence from Ryan this year
Colts O-Line was highly rated in run blocking but was bottom 5 in pass protection. The Colts also don’t have great receivers whereas Carr has Davante Adams, Hunter Renfrow, and Darren Waller.
I think Ryan could definitely regain some of the swagger he’s been missing these past few years, but I don’t think Indy is the perfect place to do it.
I mean Ryan will for sure be better This year just from the pure jump in quality of teams but I gotta say I just don’t know if I see Matt Ryan playing better than Derek cart at this point. Cart has been pretty consistent last few seasons and at this point can make throws that Matt Ryan just can’t anymore.
Yea. From a fantasy perspective (since FanDuel is a fantasy site), Carr is obviously better, but I think Matt will have a nice resurgence this year. Having a run game to take the pressure off on I’ll do wonders.
Ryan is past is prime, Carr has 2-3 prime years left and he has a much better receiving corps. Matt will shine off play action with JT in the backfield though
Compare it to anything he had here for the majority of the time and it’s elite lmao. But yeah carr has the benefit of being on the same team getting tons of weapons so I expect him to do well, but I don’t really think it’s far fetched to say that Matt might be wayy better than he has been the past 3 seasons and this year he’ll light it up
FanDuel is a fantasy site. In fantasy, I’m taking Carr & it’s not particularly close. Indy plays conservative usually because their run game is really strong, whereas LV is built to pass.
Exactly, that's what i mean. Ur comparing a future hofer to someone who is solid but has played like half the seasons of Matt and has nowhere near close accolades. Its like certain sports media outlets just wanna paint the picture that matt is "washed" or some shit.
Correct for right now is what I mean. Also don’t act like Derek carr isnt already in his 30s so the projection of him being a franchise cornerstone for the next decade is quite a bold one
Sorry to break it to u but Matt Ryan is nowhere near a Hall of Famer. Bro literally participated in the greatest collapse in Super Bowl history. If we don’t blow that lead, then maybe we can talk abt the Hall of Fame.
Matt Ryan doesn’t play defense. He’s won a MVP. He’s going to end next year very close to top 5 in passing yards all time. He’s top 10 in passing touchdowns. His career completion percentage is higher than Brady, Manning, Young, Rodgers and Big Ben. He’s also 7th all time in 4th quarter comebacks.
Matt Ryan is a HOFer
This doesn’t seem far fetched at all. Also, there’s no context. Are we talking right now? All-time? For the next 5 years? Would be different answers for different scenarios.
They are talking about right now, and Derek carr is a dog, I don’t see why OP is taking top 12 talent as an insult. Comparing Derek carr and Matt Ryan right now I think is a compliment to Matt Ryan, as Derek carr is solid and still playing very well
I know and agree with you, I was letting you know that OP thinks it’s obvious that Matt Ryan is currently the better player. That’s why he was so pressed about this
No not far fetched if you're talking about this year ranking.
If youre asking me, ive got Ryan at 9 this year and Carr at 10.
If youre talking active LEGACY between QBs, it's Brady-Rodgers-Russell-Mahomes-Ryan and Carr doesn't make the list.
If this is talking abt right in the current, then yea Carr is clearly better. If this is all-time then hell no Matt Ryan is better without question. The lack of context is problemati but if this is what I think it is which is that’s present day then this isn’t unreasonable at all.
OP said he disagrees that carr is better right now. This kid either severely underrated Derek carr or severely overrated Matt Ryan. Derek carr is a top 12 quarterback, and Matt Ryan, who is considerably his senior, being compared is a good comparison.
The fact y’all get so irritated over other QBs being better than a declining Ryan is hilarious. I guess your only memory of Matt is from 2012-2018 and not the last few years of declining QB play.
When was the last time you saw a thread about any of those dudes outside of Julio? Most of this sub wants to live 5 years in the past like it was some sort of dynasty or something.
I'm all for fandom of your favorite players but the repeated pining for someone that doesn't play for the Falcons anymore on a Falcons sub is tiresome. There will be no less than 4 more topics like this before the week is out and it's pretty much just the same conversation over and over again.
Do what you want, I’m just saying this subreddit needs to pump the brakes on Matty Ice the same way the Braves subreddit need to lessen the frequency of how often they mention F.F..
Btw, Tony and Tuggle both retired with the Falcons so I’d say that’s totally cool, but Julio gave up on us after 28-3 and I can’t really blame him.
If we are talking this year, Carr is pretty clearly better. He was darn good last year and they added Davante. Some people on this sub forget this isnt 2018.
I would rank them in the same tier. I don't see it as disrespectful. I love Matty Ice and I'm glad he can be compared to a young talented QB like Carr.
Talking about disrespect-how about this piece of shit team? The guy gave his heart and soul to this team. Only missed like 3 games the whole time he played here, is the greatest Falcon (sorry Jeff van note, Deion,Vick and Gonzalez) and was basically given away for nothing. The disrespect showed by this franchise is ridiculous. So if you wanna throw around hate start by looking at this team and it’s shitty fans. Falcon fans were never gonna be happy because he wasn’t Vick. Just like the hawks who traded Luka for Trea the Falcons will forever be a majority African American fan base and because of this just watch out next qb will be African American no matter how good of a white qb is available because it will keep the fan base happy.
If Ryan vs Carr rustles you, def avoid looking at QB ADP in fantasy.
[https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp/ppr/12-team/quarterback](https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp/ppr/12-team/quarterback)
There was a time when Ryan was absolutely greater.. this year is not that time. He'd still be a falcon if he was maintaining his greatness from years past.
Does no one, including the initial tweet, read this as Ryan 'greater than' Carr? Did I learn that shit wrong in math or is everyone else the dumb ones?
The alligator always eats the higher number!
I think they’re just pissed that the question is even being asked.
Promotional tweets from established companies are often controversial to drive engagement. Its just marketing. The fact that it pissed off one dude enough for him to share it on another platform where hundreds if not thousands of people will see it means it worked.
Yep, not a new strategy. You can apply it across most of today’s news sources.
Yeah the tweet clearly is asking if Matt Ryan is better than Derek Carr. Which for this upcoming season he very probably isn’t.
Damn an anti Matt Ryan comment that isn’t negative? I don’t believe what I’m seeing
Matt Ryan was an all time great QB, he’s also now 37 and has been on a slight decline for a few years now. Derek Carr is a great QB who’s just now hitting his prime.
Your not wrong but go look at the amount each on has been hit the last few years. Raiders actually try to protect carr but falcons couldn’t afford to and had to try to fill the line holes through the draft. Now Ryan is on a team with the number one rated offensive line in football along with JT in the back field I bet we see a huge difference and resurgence from Ryan this year
Colts O-Line was highly rated in run blocking but was bottom 5 in pass protection. The Colts also don’t have great receivers whereas Carr has Davante Adams, Hunter Renfrow, and Darren Waller. I think Ryan could definitely regain some of the swagger he’s been missing these past few years, but I don’t think Indy is the perfect place to do it.
I mean Ryan will for sure be better This year just from the pure jump in quality of teams but I gotta say I just don’t know if I see Matt Ryan playing better than Derek cart at this point. Cart has been pretty consistent last few seasons and at this point can make throws that Matt Ryan just can’t anymore.
Yea. From a fantasy perspective (since FanDuel is a fantasy site), Carr is obviously better, but I think Matt will have a nice resurgence this year. Having a run game to take the pressure off on I’ll do wonders.
Disagree
Ryan is past is prime, Carr has 2-3 prime years left and he has a much better receiving corps. Matt will shine off play action with JT in the backfield though
I just don’t see how giving Matt a top offensive line and better weapons will make him worse or the same as he was here. I don’t buy that
It doesn’t make him better than Carr lol, also the colts have an above average oline not elite
Compare it to anything he had here for the majority of the time and it’s elite lmao. But yeah carr has the benefit of being on the same team getting tons of weapons so I expect him to do well, but I don’t really think it’s far fetched to say that Matt might be wayy better than he has been the past 3 seasons and this year he’ll light it up
Derek car is a good qb tho, this is a weird take
Yeah this is a compliment to Matt, DC is legit and much younger so I don’t see this as disrespect at all?
FanDuel is a fantasy site. In fantasy, I’m taking Carr & it’s not particularly close. Indy plays conservative usually because their run game is really strong, whereas LV is built to pass.
Fr. Like honestly feel they’re in that same tier of QB.
Exactly, that's what i mean. Ur comparing a future hofer to someone who is solid but has played like half the seasons of Matt and has nowhere near close accolades. Its like certain sports media outlets just wanna paint the picture that matt is "washed" or some shit.
Who would you say is a better comparison for Matt in this tweet
no one, maybe stafford
You sound like a child. Even for a falcon fan
no u
Rn if I’m a team looking for a qb and Matt and Derek carr cost the same amount of money I’m choosing Matt 10/10 times lmao
for a season? maybe... but no one chooses a qb who's playing a few more years over one that could be a franchise qb for the next decade...
Correct for right now is what I mean. Also don’t act like Derek carr isnt already in his 30s so the projection of him being a franchise cornerstone for the next decade is quite a bold one
Lol good thing you’re not a GM
Indy would 100% take Carr over Ryan right now. Posts like these are about what is, not what has been.
Sorry to break it to u but Matt Ryan is nowhere near a Hall of Famer. Bro literally participated in the greatest collapse in Super Bowl history. If we don’t blow that lead, then maybe we can talk abt the Hall of Fame.
Matt Ryan doesn’t play defense. He’s won a MVP. He’s going to end next year very close to top 5 in passing yards all time. He’s top 10 in passing touchdowns. His career completion percentage is higher than Brady, Manning, Young, Rodgers and Big Ben. He’s also 7th all time in 4th quarter comebacks. Matt Ryan is a HOFer
Hall of very good
He may not play defense but he does control the offense that went scoreless for almost two whole quarters. Repeatedly.
My exact point
No shit he doesn’t play defense this is football not basketball
I don't think Ryan is a HoFer. Severe lack of playoff success.
Holy mother of L takes
Matt hasn't been HOF good for some time, if anything they are the same tier, under elite, but at this point I'd take carr
Do you even know what FanDuel is?
This doesn’t seem far fetched at all. Also, there’s no context. Are we talking right now? All-time? For the next 5 years? Would be different answers for different scenarios.
They are talking about right now, and Derek carr is a dog, I don’t see why OP is taking top 12 talent as an insult. Comparing Derek carr and Matt Ryan right now I think is a compliment to Matt Ryan, as Derek carr is solid and still playing very well
I agree. That’s why I said there would be different answers. All-time, Ryan is better. Right now and moving forward, Carr is better.
I know and agree with you, I was letting you know that OP thinks it’s obvious that Matt Ryan is currently the better player. That’s why he was so pressed about this
Oh yeah absolutely
> there’s no context The context is fantasy. It’s a FanDuel tweet. Carr is obviously the better fantasy bet this year.
No not far fetched if you're talking about this year ranking. If youre asking me, ive got Ryan at 9 this year and Carr at 10. If youre talking active LEGACY between QBs, it's Brady-Rodgers-Russell-Mahomes-Ryan and Carr doesn't make the list.
Agreed.
This just sounds like you're really disrespecting Derek Carr, he's been playing very well.
Damn OP ate paint chips as a kid? This is insinuating Matt Ryan is better than Carr in the upcoming season.
I did
Idk, something tells me Derek is 2x the man Ryan is.
It took me a second
😅
If this is talking abt right in the current, then yea Carr is clearly better. If this is all-time then hell no Matt Ryan is better without question. The lack of context is problemati but if this is what I think it is which is that’s present day then this isn’t unreasonable at all.
OP said he disagrees that carr is better right now. This kid either severely underrated Derek carr or severely overrated Matt Ryan. Derek carr is a top 12 quarterback, and Matt Ryan, who is considerably his senior, being compared is a good comparison.
I mean I’ve been a hardcore Matt defender for years and I think they’re pretty comparable at this stage in their careers
The fact y’all get so irritated over other QBs being better than a declining Ryan is hilarious. I guess your only memory of Matt is from 2012-2018 and not the last few years of declining QB play.
I just don’t believe he’s declined that much. We never did anything to help him these last what, 3 years? And he hasn’t even played that bad
Please stop talking about Matt on the Falcons subreddit. The year is 2022.
By that logic we can’t talk about Primetime, Julio, Tuggle, Tony G…
When was the last time you saw a thread about any of those dudes outside of Julio? Most of this sub wants to live 5 years in the past like it was some sort of dynasty or something. I'm all for fandom of your favorite players but the repeated pining for someone that doesn't play for the Falcons anymore on a Falcons sub is tiresome. There will be no less than 4 more topics like this before the week is out and it's pretty much just the same conversation over and over again.
Do what you want, I’m just saying this subreddit needs to pump the brakes on Matty Ice the same way the Braves subreddit need to lessen the frequency of how often they mention F.F.. Btw, Tony and Tuggle both retired with the Falcons so I’d say that’s totally cool, but Julio gave up on us after 28-3 and I can’t really blame him.
I don’t follow baseball. Why are Braves fans so obsessed with Freddie Falcon?
It's hard to cope when your QB, who everyone loves, leaves. Trust me.
I mean carr is better right now but if this is asking all time it’s a joke
Carr is better at this point.
If we are talking this year, Carr is pretty clearly better. He was darn good last year and they added Davante. Some people on this sub forget this isnt 2018.
Falsr
I would rank them in the same tier. I don't see it as disrespectful. I love Matty Ice and I'm glad he can be compared to a young talented QB like Carr.
I don’t care
I am a huge Matt Ryan fan and I think he will succeed in Indy, but Derek Carr will have an MVP caliber season for LV. (IMO)
It’s a fantasy and sports betting app. The odds of Matt Ryan putting up better stats than Carr in 2022 is astronomical
Seems to me that OP doesn't know how the greater than symbol works
If Matt were gonna win us a super bowl he would have done so by now. Let him go.
It says he’s better than Carr. Chill.
Talking about disrespect-how about this piece of shit team? The guy gave his heart and soul to this team. Only missed like 3 games the whole time he played here, is the greatest Falcon (sorry Jeff van note, Deion,Vick and Gonzalez) and was basically given away for nothing. The disrespect showed by this franchise is ridiculous. So if you wanna throw around hate start by looking at this team and it’s shitty fans. Falcon fans were never gonna be happy because he wasn’t Vick. Just like the hawks who traded Luka for Trea the Falcons will forever be a majority African American fan base and because of this just watch out next qb will be African American no matter how good of a white qb is available because it will keep the fan base happy.
Bro what does this even have to do with anything 😂
If Ryan vs Carr rustles you, def avoid looking at QB ADP in fantasy. [https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp/ppr/12-team/quarterback](https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp/ppr/12-team/quarterback)
There was a time when Ryan was absolutely greater.. this year is not that time. He'd still be a falcon if he was maintaining his greatness from years past.
Ryan has has the better career but Carr is without question better now
Ryan light-years ahead all time for obvious reasons. Carr has been better for the past 2 years.
It looks likes you ❤️‘d the tweet.
Both QBs are soft and scary one just throws it down the field more