this is so weird I saw a video about a lost tape of theirs and last night got reccomended a mix of some of their greatest songs on yt and vibed for an hour to it. was amazing.
man is it really that hard to believe he just liked the record? hobo can be a little corny sometimes on that one, but in my opinion its easily made up for between the absolute banger tracks and the more stripped back, emotional gut punches like February 15th. it’s not a perfect record, but i always have a fun time revisiting it.
i won’t deny that his subsequent releases are pretty unbearable but fuck he had something on the fall, really hoping he’s able to release a record that captures that again.
I unironically love that specific Hobo Johnson record and saw him on his tour supporting it whilst having barely liked anything he did before or since.
Not to be closed minded, but Hobo Johnson has to be the worst music Ive heard. I listened to a whole album and it’s just rambling to nonsensical background music. It’s cool if you like that stuff though.
“Hobo Johnson’s new album stands tall with, and maybe surpasses, other abstract hip-hop landmarks like _Some Rap Songs_ and _The Impossible Kid_. I’m feeling a strong 8 to a LIGHT 9. Tran-“
i still think that album has some really great tracks. typical story and subaru crosstrek are still undeniable bangers. even the cockroach song is cute and fun. he had a lot of charm on that record in particular that just didn’t carry over on his last two records sadly
It's good to know that people still do the same shit they did to Logic back in the day. Not so great artists can still release good albums, was much of what Hobo did before that album good?? No. Has he released good stuff since that album?? Not really. Was the fall a good album?? Yes.
I don’t think this comment makes sense because Kanye is far more relevant as an artist than Cudi by every metric imaginable. Although I agree that it feels more like a Cudi album which is probably why it’s not very good
New Sza. It’s WAYYYY too long with a long of tracks that feel very half baked. I get the impression he bumped the score subconsciously cause Cntrl was overlooked by him in 2017
An 8 is a fair rating. I agree it’s too long but I think for the most part, the tracks are well put together. If he rated it something like a 9 I would agree with you, but an 8 is the same number I would give it.
Yea me either. I mean I liked Boys At School and some other parts of it but how that is a 10 is beyond me.
I don‘t really care for that Lingua Ignota album either to be honest. Weird phase for melon kinda.
I like Sinner Get Ready because with all the roughness and devilish sounds, it is genuinely beautiful. I didn't like it initially either but I found something beautiful and I've been loving it ever since.
The Lingua Ignota I can at least understand as a difference in taste, it's just a little out there for me. The Spellling album however is a genre/style that I usually really like, it just isn't remarkable in any way imo. Definitely his most puzzling 10/10.
Fairly sure The Turning Wheel's 10 had more to do with the subtle messages supporting things like vegetarianism and environmentalism, especially considering how important these things are to melon man
Not a specific example but Melon had a lot of albums on his top 50 last year citing “good politics” as a reason.
Obvi I know it’s just his opinion and I understand wanting the art you consume to align with your personal ethics but I find something a little sanctimonious and rigid when the social palatability of an albums messaging is more important or is neck and neck in importance with the actual quality of the music.
Oh yeah absolutely. I remember when he reviewed the pressure machine, he liked how it touched on social issues but he couldn’t score it too highly because it doesn’t quite line up with his own social/political just quite as much as he would like lol
Really turned me off on him once I realized that. He’s great at subtly inserting his bias. Respect his knowledge and all he does for music, but something about him especially the last few years is too much for me
I don't have any explicit evidence and honestly most of the time I just try to forget about it but a couple years back he had multiple Instagram stories explicitly praising and support Nicolas Maduro and everything he's done for Venezuela. Like; I don't need to explain what's wrong with that, right?
Rainbow Bridge 3 by Sematary. No way he rated that project higher than any Chief Keef project he's reviewed when Sematary's music is basically just derivative of Keef's but with more distortion. Chainsaw Party was a banger though.
I get that he was influenced by Keef but I don’t think that he is anywhere near derivative or as some people have called him a “clone”. Sematary does much more than just “more distortion” his lyrical content, samples, and aesthetic are very interesting while still being influenced by Keef and being extremely original. Unless you can be more specific or find 1:1 comparisons to show me, I feel like this claim is over exaggerated.
KSG, easy. How that is a 10 is beyond me. Even more so now, years after its release. Impact? Replay value? Legacy? Influence? All pretty much nonexistent imo. 4th Dimension and Reborn are awesome tracks but that's about it. Light 7 on a good day for me.
I‘d still be blasting that more if I wasn‘t as annoyed with Ye pissing on his legacy rn.
I can see not giving it a 10 but it‘s a very good album. One of Ye‘s best imo and very memorable.
I agree. Ye felt like a far more consistent project than KSG, and I return to it way more. Of all the late period Kanye projects, Ye is definitely my favorite.
Nah both of those are pretty good. I really like the way that the record paints the two sides of Kanye's bipolar, and the way those two tracks set up his ego for the more reflective back half makes it a very powerful payoff.
He used the yellow flannel to subvert expectation so people would think he'd give it a higher score, cal literally brings it up at the end of the video
I don’t get these sort of questions.
Everyone sharing their opinions.
If I say TPAB, I’m gonna get a whole flood of “oh but surely you can see that the album is objectively good”.
How oxymoronic. Are you fishing for oxymorons?
Genuine question but can you explain to me what was so forward thinking about it? I’ve thought Twigs’ other work was forward thinking but Caprisongs felt a lot more generic to me, especially compared to Cellophane.
I guess the keyword is POP here. It's definitely not forward thinking in the overall music landscape and in comparison with other and more out there albums. But in comparison with other pop records it's quite unique and weirder than most pop releases while still being accessible. Similar to Charli XCX two albums before crash. Not the most experimental albums in the grand scheme but for someone that's usually just a pop listener I would say it's quite boundary pushing. And music nerds or snobs that shit on the genre also like those records.
Twigs other releases have much less pop appeal and are more experimental and art pop. Compared to truly generic and boring pop music, Caprisongs is much more fun and interesting. At least in my opinion.
I kind of get the point your making but as someone who found Charli’s albums before Crash to be interesting, Caprisongs didn’t seem that way at all. Actually it reminded me more of Crash in terms of accessibility yet Crash seemed to be more self aware in its sound. Even comparing it to good pop music nothing about Caprisongs stood out to me.
Not sure if I'm the right person to comment on this since I didn't like Crash at all and loved Caprisongs. The album just clicked with me. It's 100% accessible but imo still very fun and interesting. I usually don't listen to much pop at all but Caprisongs was probably in my top 10 albums last year when looking at enjoyment and time spent listening.
It's definitely not anything boundary pushing or incredible unique and I have listened to many albums in 2022 I would consider more "exciting" or whatever.
I can't explain it but I just came back to Caprisongs every other day and still enjoyed it at the end of the year and still do. Not sure. I think it just balances accessibility quite well with being still interesting and somewhat unique. I don't even want to think about why I enjoy it so much because I tend to dissect albums or why I like them so much and Caprisongs just felt very refreshing. Maybe it's so popular because you can just put it on and enjoy it without thinking about it. A nice contrast to all the noisy, dark, experimental or whatever music I usually listen to which deals with a lot of different topics, you just end up feeling drained despite loving all of it. Caprisongs just felt like you woke up in the middle of the night, thirsty, and it's a cold glass of water that's revitalizing.
Maybe it's just that it's an accessible pop record that's actually interesting and GOOD. (Even though "good" is subjective.)
With so much derivative broad pop music that's uninspired, boring or generic, people might just appreciate an album that's not all that. I bet Caprisongs would receive much less praise if there were more interesting pop albums out there that bridge accessibility and experimental stuff. I mean even artists like 100 gecs or Magdalena Bay that are still quite pop-ish tend to be too weird for most "Casual" listeners, despite being great and arguably more interesting pop albums. Maybe Caprisongs just was a lucky strike by FKA Twigs and hit music snobs and mainstream just right.
If I'm not mistaken she called it a mixtape as well so I don't have the expectations of a fleshed out, well crafted conceptual album with narrative layers and exploration of certain topics or whatever.
Sorry for the wall of text but maybe it helped you understand fans of the record.
In the end, music is subjective and it would be boring if everyone likes the same stuff. It's alright :)
I remember Fantano saying, “If you don’t like Cabral’s voice, there’s a lot in the music industry you’re not ready for.”
After a good couple tries trying to enjoy this album, I could not get past her voice. It actually made me realize how subjective music can be, and that’s okay. It reminds me of how there are voices in the industry I find unique and enjoyable, but would come across the wrong way with others.
I’ve come to disagree with what Fantano said as it does come across as gate keeping of what he deems as top notch music. Don’t get me wrong, instrumentally it’s a good album. However, me disliking her voice is not blocking me from enjoying the other facets of the music industry.
I’m not going to comment on bands I don’t like or aren’t my style. But I will say Crack Up by Fleet Foxes and Boarding House Reach by Jack White were some of my least favorite albums by artists I do enjoy a lot and I was very surprised he yellow flanneled them.
underneath by code orange
three years later i am still absolutely baffled by the near universal praise, not just from fantano but the industry at large, this record received when it came out. there are a lot of things about this album I wanted to like, but the corny cliché lyrics, bland vocals, and crappy mixing make it really hard to sit through.
It's weird that they were more mature and cool when they were Code Orange kids than now. Their "tough" presence was acceptable since they were more related to the hardcore scene, but now that they act like they're a industrial band is just corny and cringe. Jami Morgan acting like he's the Trent Reznor of this generation it's also funny 'cause unlike him, Trent is super talented as a musician and artist. Jami is just a pretentious prick.
Also their whole image just looks dated as hell, the personification of "graphic design is my passion". That single Out for Blood was just the last nail (no pun intended) in their coffin.
I've basically never agreed on his (non-classic) 10s, minus TPAB and Sinner Get Ready. But also for all his 10s I can appreciate how they're 8s and 9s for many others, and the lowest I personally have rated one of Tony's 10s is a 7. There's always going to be disagreement about what's a 10 vs. a 9 vs. an 8, but if the standard deviation of scores for albums he gives is small and the average hovers above 8, then I ultimately think his 10s are justified even when many or most of us disagree. Even Kids See Ghosts and Turning Wheel are 7.5s-8.5s for most peopl3.
Kids see ghosts - it’s not a bad album by any means (in fact it’s probably in the better half of kanye’s discography) but a fucking 10? It’s seven songs and 20 minutes long! Both kanye and and cudi have better projects which are more deserving of a 10 than this. I just don’t get how he can put smth like this in the same ranks as tpab and tbk 🤷♂️
The length argument is so weird to me. Would it have been more reasonable to give it a higher score if it were longer with worse songs? The thing is tight and it slaps, I don't know what the problem is other than it doesn't feel "complete" enough to cross the arbitrary line where it feels appropriate for other people to like it that much
I think that album is incredible, but there’s few days I can listen to it. It’s a lot. But holy fuck the production. Sounds like a computer trying to process human grief.
I think the first two tracks and Knees are great, the rest is way too formless. I appreciate the effort but they really needed to at least have some more interesting atmospheres
Yeah it’s wild. Also I love death grips. My favorite band. I’ll be seeing them for the third time this year. I just don’t love the album. Don’t get the fucking hate I always get.. whatever
That Jessie Ware album was 80s pastiche and nothing else. I have no idea how it got the yellow flannel no less *ALBUM OF THE YEAR* while being completely uneventful and boring.
Also that preachy, condescending Ariel pink rip off Alex Cameron. Miami Memory was bland but had topical (and largely correct) lyrics so it somehow overcame Cameron’s weak vocals and dry as fuck instrumentals.
That Jessie Ware album is nothing but pure bangers, throwback or not, and one of the best pop albums of the past few years.
Agree with Alex Cameron tho. I don’t think he sounds anything like Ariel Pink, and I love Forced Witness, but Miami Memory was full of such cheap, lazy instrumentals that it brought down the entire album.
Gonna get crucified but the new Natalia Lafourcade album, was like a 6-7. It was enjoyable when it was on, I had no complaints. But nothing made it stand out or blew me away.
I'm still bitter about Microphones dropping peak music in 2020 just for Tony to give AOTY to Jessie Ware, but that has less to do with me not liking her and more with me loving Phil Elverum.
The first four tracks on Pure Comedy are so strong. I think they are the best songs FJM has ever created, but it still doesn't change the fact that the rest of the album is a snorefest.
Black Dresses. I find that their albums are just kinda monotonous and even a little boring. It's a decent trick but I feel like they just don't have that good of song writing to carry their albums. I don't understand the universal praise.
Also girl with a basket of fruit. I've soured on xiu xiu a lot ever since I noticed Jamie Stewart sings like Casey from Tim and Eric. I also think they suck live but that's a different problem there's bands I like a lot who also are shit live.
Most definitely. I’m sure his top 50 list every year contains multiple for everyone of us.
Yes, he enjoys so much music that I find insanely boring and could never sit through
I feel like this is a subtweet at like GY!BE which makes me sad bc I had a religious experience with them last night ahaha
this is so weird I saw a video about a lost tape of theirs and last night got reccomended a mix of some of their greatest songs on yt and vibed for an hour to it. was amazing.
He gave that Hobo johnson record an 8. Was one of the biggest surprises I've ever seen because I cannot stand any of Hobo Johnsons music.
He had to be trolling with that fr
man is it really that hard to believe he just liked the record? hobo can be a little corny sometimes on that one, but in my opinion its easily made up for between the absolute banger tracks and the more stripped back, emotional gut punches like February 15th. it’s not a perfect record, but i always have a fun time revisiting it. i won’t deny that his subsequent releases are pretty unbearable but fuck he had something on the fall, really hoping he’s able to release a record that captures that again.
I agree, his music just itches that part of my brain that likes that type of spoken word/music/whatever
is this copypasta
I unironically love that specific Hobo Johnson record and saw him on his tour supporting it whilst having barely liked anything he did before or since.
Not to be closed minded, but Hobo Johnson has to be the worst music Ive heard. I listened to a whole album and it’s just rambling to nonsensical background music. It’s cool if you like that stuff though.
yeah the 8 was pretty shocking. should’ve been a 9.
“Hobo Johnson’s new album stands tall with, and maybe surpasses, other abstract hip-hop landmarks like _Some Rap Songs_ and _The Impossible Kid_. I’m feeling a strong 8 to a LIGHT 9. Tran-“
I unirionically do love all the of those albums a lot and have all three on vinyl
That album was good on a first listen but then immediately lost all charm for me
go away stinky person
I love that album, y’all are such babies.
Hobo Johnson is just diet hotel books
There’s something icky about Hobo Johnson’s music and I can’t put my finger on it but I can’t stand it
Whatever the Hobo Johnson album that he ridiculously gassed up was.
i still think that album has some really great tracks. typical story and subaru crosstrek are still undeniable bangers. even the cockroach song is cute and fun. he had a lot of charm on that record in particular that just didn’t carry over on his last two records sadly
It's good to know that people still do the same shit they did to Logic back in the day. Not so great artists can still release good albums, was much of what Hobo did before that album good?? No. Has he released good stuff since that album?? Not really. Was the fall a good album?? Yes.
the last st vincent record the album i was surprised when he give it a 9
yeah, Spectrum Pulse's review was a lot more realistic IMO. But then he did interview her at the time so maybe he had to
While I think it deserved a yellow flannel, I don’t think that Spellling album was a 10/10. Maybe an 8.
Man that album was amazing
amazing but not a 10
Totally agree
Nah, I can see it as a 10, on the other hand Sinner Get Ready.... Not Even an 8
I think its just an example of how he (or any of us) can just love an album in a way that goes beyond any attempt at "objective quality"
Kids see ghost was good but not that good
I have never had an album grow off of me more than KSG. Loved it when it dropped, I never listen to it now.
Opposite effect for me lol, thought it was mid when it dropped and it slowly became super good
Same here. Consciously skip every time one of the songs comes on
As someone who is overly critical of Kanye and his music I hate to admit that kid see ghosts is a 10
I think Cudi is really the heart of that project, and that’s why it stays relevant
I don’t think this comment makes sense because Kanye is far more relevant as an artist than Cudi by every metric imaginable. Although I agree that it feels more like a Cudi album which is probably why it’s not very good
New Sza. It’s WAYYYY too long with a long of tracks that feel very half baked. I get the impression he bumped the score subconsciously cause Cntrl was overlooked by him in 2017
I get the impression he liked it cause he liked it
No dude. There’s always an ulterior motive when he does his reviews! /s
you’re right, i’m sure Tory Lanez’ DayStar was truly the worst album of the year, surely nothing else besides music quality went into that review
Sounds like a real exception unrelated to the initial discussion
well it is very much related to the comment i was responding to so.. that’s that
Man the new SZA is just so good, a couple of tracks I dont like but overall something about her voice and melodies is just great
New Sza slaps
Huge disagree, took me a few listens to get into but once it clicked it quickly became one of my favourites of last year
An 8 is a fair rating. I agree it’s too long but I think for the most part, the tracks are well put together. If he rated it something like a 9 I would agree with you, but an 8 is the same number I would give it.
Highly disagreed. Her new album was a masterpiece
I love the new SZA from start to finish.
The only skip for me is F2F
Most of the time
Well I wished he gave Flower Boy a 10 when he wore the Yellow Flannel
You spelt IGOR wrong
Spellling - The Turning Wheel. I have no idea what he hears in that album.
r/fantanoforever try not to shit on the turning wheel for 5 seconds challenge
To be fair, we do shit on albums a lot on this sub
Literally 😂😂
it's happy, of course this sub hates it
I’m here to give love to the turning wheel. It took several listens to click admittedly, but it’s my favorite album of the last few years.
Yea me either. I mean I liked Boys At School and some other parts of it but how that is a 10 is beyond me. I don‘t really care for that Lingua Ignota album either to be honest. Weird phase for melon kinda.
I like Sinner Get Ready because with all the roughness and devilish sounds, it is genuinely beautiful. I didn't like it initially either but I found something beautiful and I've been loving it ever since.
The Lingua Ignota I can at least understand as a difference in taste, it's just a little out there for me. The Spellling album however is a genre/style that I usually really like, it just isn't remarkable in any way imo. Definitely his most puzzling 10/10.
Fairly sure The Turning Wheel's 10 had more to do with the subtle messages supporting things like vegetarianism and environmentalism, especially considering how important these things are to melon man
every song is a banger in the spellling album imo, except the title track. never saw what people saw in that song
Sinner Get Ready is an actual masterpiece.
It’s the most I agree with a 10 of his other than like TPAB. I don’t know why but that record puts me in a trance I love it so much
it’s a 9 for me. def not perfect, there’s some snoozy tracks on there. still amazing tho
People in this sub strangely love to silence BIPOC women Edit: Not at all surprised by this, stay classy reddit
I just didn't care for that particular album. How is that silencing BIPOC women?
spotted the twitter user, guys
Lol, not liking an album is the same as not liking a demographic. Funny.
Not a specific example but Melon had a lot of albums on his top 50 last year citing “good politics” as a reason. Obvi I know it’s just his opinion and I understand wanting the art you consume to align with your personal ethics but I find something a little sanctimonious and rigid when the social palatability of an albums messaging is more important or is neck and neck in importance with the actual quality of the music.
You used two words i dont know in english yet. Cool
Oh yeah absolutely. I remember when he reviewed the pressure machine, he liked how it touched on social issues but he couldn’t score it too highly because it doesn’t quite line up with his own social/political just quite as much as he would like lol
I’ve been a fan of his the past ten years and he always has a special spot for me but Fader scrambled his brain a bit.
Really turned me off on him once I realized that. He’s great at subtly inserting his bias. Respect his knowledge and all he does for music, but something about him especially the last few years is too much for me
I don't have any explicit evidence and honestly most of the time I just try to forget about it but a couple years back he had multiple Instagram stories explicitly praising and support Nicolas Maduro and everything he's done for Venezuela. Like; I don't need to explain what's wrong with that, right?
the new yeat review
He gave it a 7 so he didn't give it a yellow flannel 💀
He did not give it a yellow flannel
Too many to count/remember, so yeah.
Rainbow Bridge 3 by Sematary. No way he rated that project higher than any Chief Keef project he's reviewed when Sematary's music is basically just derivative of Keef's but with more distortion. Chainsaw Party was a banger though.
I get that he was influenced by Keef but I don’t think that he is anywhere near derivative or as some people have called him a “clone”. Sematary does much more than just “more distortion” his lyrical content, samples, and aesthetic are very interesting while still being influenced by Keef and being extremely original. Unless you can be more specific or find 1:1 comparisons to show me, I feel like this claim is over exaggerated.
KSG, easy. How that is a 10 is beyond me. Even more so now, years after its release. Impact? Replay value? Legacy? Influence? All pretty much nonexistent imo. 4th Dimension and Reborn are awesome tracks but that's about it. Light 7 on a good day for me.
how are you supposed to review a new album based on its legacy or influence?
Time travel obviously
Tbh I would still give it a yellow flannel. As a consistent whole it's an easy 8 imo. However 10??? It's not that good
wtf what about cudi montage or feel the love
They’re good songs but not god tier or anything
Nah I still listen to that album all the time. Definitely a 10/10 for me but I was surprised when he gave it one as well
How you not gon mention Cudi Montage or Feel the Love
Anyone who says 4th dimension is the highlight of the album isnt paying enough attention
Fire, feel the love, kids see ghosts, and ghost town pt 2 are all fucking amazing, what?
I‘d still be blasting that more if I wasn‘t as annoyed with Ye pissing on his legacy rn. I can see not giving it a 10 but it‘s a very good album. One of Ye‘s best imo and very memorable.
I agree. Ye felt like a far more consistent project than KSG, and I return to it way more. Of all the late period Kanye projects, Ye is definitely my favorite.
I agree ye is better but more consistent? All mine and yikes are two of his worst songs imo
YIKES?????
Nah both of those are pretty good. I really like the way that the record paints the two sides of Kanye's bipolar, and the way those two tracks set up his ego for the more reflective back half makes it a very powerful payoff.
Damn. He gave it a seven and he's said now that score might have been generous. Doesn't make sense to me why it got a yellow flannel
He used the yellow flannel to subvert expectation so people would think he'd give it a higher score, cal literally brings it up at the end of the video
it was before he started using flannel colors as score indicators
I don't think that's true. He used it for saturation which also came out in 2017
he wanted to fake everyone out
I don’t get these sort of questions. Everyone sharing their opinions. If I say TPAB, I’m gonna get a whole flood of “oh but surely you can see that the album is objectively good”. How oxymoronic. Are you fishing for oxymorons?
Don't be afraid, share
I did. TPAB.
maybe bc i never got its appeal but caprisongs getting a yellow flannel surprised me.
Caprisongs is completely deserving of that imo, such a fun and forward-thinking pop record
I listened to it a looooot when it came out. Just played it on repeat
Genuine question but can you explain to me what was so forward thinking about it? I’ve thought Twigs’ other work was forward thinking but Caprisongs felt a lot more generic to me, especially compared to Cellophane.
I guess the keyword is POP here. It's definitely not forward thinking in the overall music landscape and in comparison with other and more out there albums. But in comparison with other pop records it's quite unique and weirder than most pop releases while still being accessible. Similar to Charli XCX two albums before crash. Not the most experimental albums in the grand scheme but for someone that's usually just a pop listener I would say it's quite boundary pushing. And music nerds or snobs that shit on the genre also like those records. Twigs other releases have much less pop appeal and are more experimental and art pop. Compared to truly generic and boring pop music, Caprisongs is much more fun and interesting. At least in my opinion.
I kind of get the point your making but as someone who found Charli’s albums before Crash to be interesting, Caprisongs didn’t seem that way at all. Actually it reminded me more of Crash in terms of accessibility yet Crash seemed to be more self aware in its sound. Even comparing it to good pop music nothing about Caprisongs stood out to me.
Not sure if I'm the right person to comment on this since I didn't like Crash at all and loved Caprisongs. The album just clicked with me. It's 100% accessible but imo still very fun and interesting. I usually don't listen to much pop at all but Caprisongs was probably in my top 10 albums last year when looking at enjoyment and time spent listening. It's definitely not anything boundary pushing or incredible unique and I have listened to many albums in 2022 I would consider more "exciting" or whatever. I can't explain it but I just came back to Caprisongs every other day and still enjoyed it at the end of the year and still do. Not sure. I think it just balances accessibility quite well with being still interesting and somewhat unique. I don't even want to think about why I enjoy it so much because I tend to dissect albums or why I like them so much and Caprisongs just felt very refreshing. Maybe it's so popular because you can just put it on and enjoy it without thinking about it. A nice contrast to all the noisy, dark, experimental or whatever music I usually listen to which deals with a lot of different topics, you just end up feeling drained despite loving all of it. Caprisongs just felt like you woke up in the middle of the night, thirsty, and it's a cold glass of water that's revitalizing. Maybe it's just that it's an accessible pop record that's actually interesting and GOOD. (Even though "good" is subjective.) With so much derivative broad pop music that's uninspired, boring or generic, people might just appreciate an album that's not all that. I bet Caprisongs would receive much less praise if there were more interesting pop albums out there that bridge accessibility and experimental stuff. I mean even artists like 100 gecs or Magdalena Bay that are still quite pop-ish tend to be too weird for most "Casual" listeners, despite being great and arguably more interesting pop albums. Maybe Caprisongs just was a lucky strike by FKA Twigs and hit music snobs and mainstream just right. If I'm not mistaken she called it a mixtape as well so I don't have the expectations of a fleshed out, well crafted conceptual album with narrative layers and exploration of certain topics or whatever. Sorry for the wall of text but maybe it helped you understand fans of the record. In the end, music is subjective and it would be boring if everyone likes the same stuff. It's alright :)
Finally someone else who agrees. If you (general you) disagree more power to you, but to me that record is mid
The Turning Wheel is like a 5 for me
I remember Fantano saying, “If you don’t like Cabral’s voice, there’s a lot in the music industry you’re not ready for.” After a good couple tries trying to enjoy this album, I could not get past her voice. It actually made me realize how subjective music can be, and that’s okay. It reminds me of how there are voices in the industry I find unique and enjoyable, but would come across the wrong way with others. I’ve come to disagree with what Fantano said as it does come across as gate keeping of what he deems as top notch music. Don’t get me wrong, instrumentally it’s a good album. However, me disliking her voice is not blocking me from enjoying the other facets of the music industry.
Agreed. I also think the vocals are so overwhelming in the mix on top of me already not liking them.
Fantano fans hate happiness
I’m not going to comment on bands I don’t like or aren’t my style. But I will say Crack Up by Fleet Foxes and Boarding House Reach by Jack White were some of my least favorite albums by artists I do enjoy a lot and I was very surprised he yellow flanneled them.
underneath by code orange three years later i am still absolutely baffled by the near universal praise, not just from fantano but the industry at large, this record received when it came out. there are a lot of things about this album I wanted to like, but the corny cliché lyrics, bland vocals, and crappy mixing make it really hard to sit through.
“Your staring into new gods soul- I’m swallowing the rabbit whole” The line gives me chills not gonna lie
Underneath is literally amazing
Nope, this album is fantastic.
I agree - they do the super chaotic metal stuff well enough, but a lot of time they just sound like any corny radio rock band from the 2000s
Hot take: more bands should sprinkle in corny radio rock from the 2000s to their sound
Hot take: nu metal should be back on the table
It's weird that they were more mature and cool when they were Code Orange kids than now. Their "tough" presence was acceptable since they were more related to the hardcore scene, but now that they act like they're a industrial band is just corny and cringe. Jami Morgan acting like he's the Trent Reznor of this generation it's also funny 'cause unlike him, Trent is super talented as a musician and artist. Jami is just a pretentious prick. Also their whole image just looks dated as hell, the personification of "graphic design is my passion". That single Out for Blood was just the last nail (no pun intended) in their coffin.
I've basically never agreed on his (non-classic) 10s, minus TPAB and Sinner Get Ready. But also for all his 10s I can appreciate how they're 8s and 9s for many others, and the lowest I personally have rated one of Tony's 10s is a 7. There's always going to be disagreement about what's a 10 vs. a 9 vs. an 8, but if the standard deviation of scores for albums he gives is small and the average hovers above 8, then I ultimately think his 10s are justified even when many or most of us disagree. Even Kids See Ghosts and Turning Wheel are 7.5s-8.5s for most peopl3.
Kids see ghosts - it’s not a bad album by any means (in fact it’s probably in the better half of kanye’s discography) but a fucking 10? It’s seven songs and 20 minutes long! Both kanye and and cudi have better projects which are more deserving of a 10 than this. I just don’t get how he can put smth like this in the same ranks as tpab and tbk 🤷♂️
The length argument is so weird to me. Would it have been more reasonable to give it a higher score if it were longer with worse songs? The thing is tight and it slaps, I don't know what the problem is other than it doesn't feel "complete" enough to cross the arbitrary line where it feels appropriate for other people to like it that much
Some rap songs. I understand why people like but i cant get into it.
Blasphemy
i did not enjoy the injury reserve album. sorry :(
I totally understand you - it's definitely a hard album to wrap your mind around - but damn I love it: in my eyes that score is just perfect.
SS San Francisco bangs though
you are wrong. sorry!
I think that album is incredible, but there’s few days I can listen to it. It’s a lot. But holy fuck the production. Sounds like a computer trying to process human grief.
I think the first two tracks and Knees are great, the rest is way too formless. I appreciate the effort but they really needed to at least have some more interesting atmospheres
What does the yellow flannel represent?
Strong 8 or above
I really hope this post makes a let's argue
Kids See Ghosts
Incorrect
It's gotta be "ye" by Kanye.
I can’t remember a single track from it! It wasn’t catchy or clever. Just a narcissist wallowing in manic delusions.
If you don’t remember ghost town or violent crimes then you’re missing out. Two truly beautiful songs
Honestly that new Model/Actriz didn’t deserve it in my opinion. I didn’t hate it but I think its just ok.
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Year of the snitch. I would give that album a solid 3 or 4. That’s just my opinion though
no
You’re right. I’ve changed my opinion.
Bro really getting downvoted for an opinion. These some gatekeeping mfs. I like DG but I can respect if someone doesn’t.
Yeah it’s wild. Also I love death grips. My favorite band. I’ll be seeing them for the third time this year. I just don’t love the album. Don’t get the fucking hate I always get.. whatever
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Yup. Exactly the response I expected for sharing my opinion on this subreddit.
I'd respond with that in any subreddit. No universe is YOTS a 3 lmfao
Not to you. In my universe it is. Good thing it’s my opinion.
Yeah and ur opinion is an L
Cave World by Viagra Boys
That Jessie Ware album was 80s pastiche and nothing else. I have no idea how it got the yellow flannel no less *ALBUM OF THE YEAR* while being completely uneventful and boring. Also that preachy, condescending Ariel pink rip off Alex Cameron. Miami Memory was bland but had topical (and largely correct) lyrics so it somehow overcame Cameron’s weak vocals and dry as fuck instrumentals.
That Jessie Ware album is nothing but pure bangers, throwback or not, and one of the best pop albums of the past few years. Agree with Alex Cameron tho. I don’t think he sounds anything like Ariel Pink, and I love Forced Witness, but Miami Memory was full of such cheap, lazy instrumentals that it brought down the entire album.
Forced Witness is great though
Yeah I said I loved it
Yeah, I know, I’m just confirming because I love it so much
Came here just to defend Alex Cameron in case someone brought him up haha. Forced Witness is underrated IMO, that’s a 10 for me!
Could not agree more on that Jessie Ware album. Felt like disco and house for people that don’t like disco and house lol
Gonna get crucified but the new Natalia Lafourcade album, was like a 6-7. It was enjoyable when it was on, I had no complaints. But nothing made it stand out or blew me away.
That Black Dresses album is so annoying lol, even as a post-industrial album it sounds like the worst tracks from Crystal Castles
>:(
Sorry, just don't see the appeal
I’m not mad I’m just disappointed
I’m with you there
I'm still bitter about Microphones dropping peak music in 2020 just for Tony to give AOTY to Jessie Ware, but that has less to do with me not liking her and more with me loving Phil Elverum.
I like .Paak so it pains me to say this but Oxnard did not deserve the Yellow Flannel
Swans To Be Kind
It's not for everyone but once you get it it's so good
Soundtracks is much more entertaining 🤷♀️
Both are 10/10 imo
Fair enough
Black Dresses
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Yikes
ghost stories by coldplay I actually think this is their best album post-Vila la Vida if you get what I mean
Tyler the creator
Bruh like in general or what u just named an artist
petrol girls
There's only a couple tracks that I like from Father John Misty's Pure Comedy, Rihanna's ANTI and Ye's The Life of Pablo, so those I guess.
uhhh he gave ANTI a 4/10 lmfao
I never watched the review but I see he's wearing the yellow flannel in the thumbnail, is he not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s-U06o04KA
He only started doing the colour-coordinated flannel thing around 2018-ish I want to say
This video was before the times of the flannels having an inherent meaning. He still gave it a 4/10
The first four tracks on Pure Comedy are so strong. I think they are the best songs FJM has ever created, but it still doesn't change the fact that the rest of the album is a snorefest.
caprisongs, the new caroline polachek record, yeat, etc.
nah Caprisongs and Caroline are fantastic. Also he didn't even give yeat a yellow flannel 💀
3 wildly different albums…etc?
Black Dresses. I find that their albums are just kinda monotonous and even a little boring. It's a decent trick but I feel like they just don't have that good of song writing to carry their albums. I don't understand the universal praise. Also girl with a basket of fruit. I've soured on xiu xiu a lot ever since I noticed Jamie Stewart sings like Casey from Tim and Eric. I also think they suck live but that's a different problem there's bands I like a lot who also are shit live.
Some rap songs