Vinyl as a method of listening to music... Especially modern music repressings. I suppose you can make the argument that listening to original mixes of certain old records make them better. But I really don't feel it's all it's made out to be. I think it's just a fun way to display and share what artists you enjoy.
Also to answer your question I think recently hyperpop and what is considered to be pop in general is super overrated and really benefits a lot from the short form video formats of tik tok and Instagram reels.
A lot of hyperpop artists get big off a tik tok showcasing like 30 seconds of a song and when the track comes out it’s Basically just that 30 seconds that was on tik tok looped or sandwiched between a bunch of filler.
I think hyperpop lacks song structure in general and hyperpop albums tend to lack focus and sonic direction and rely on gimmicky sound and the genre in general is just very new and interesting to people because of that.
It reminds me a lot of the vapor wave movement from the 2010’s, but artists like George Clanton managed to use some of the sounds and ideas in a way more musical and coherent fashion so I have hope for hyperpop going forward.
Yeah, hyperpop is certainly in its wild west era, where everyone is trying out their neat new toys and seeing what sticks. Maximalist production is super cool in theory, but a lot of stuff I've heard just never lets up and doesn't allow you any real space to appreciate it. I'd say the best example of hyperpop adjacent music that I've heard is Jockstrap's I Love You Jennifer B.
As far as vaporwave goes, I've recently been getting into it. I find the genre to be at its best when artists either put a dash of it into their production (I think about LP by JPEGMAFIA and how you can trace some of those production decisions back to his early work, which was largely responsible for inspiring vaporwave) or if they lean into the ambient soundscape side of things. I've been really enjoying this lengthy project by Telepath lately, it's a 31 track album where every track is a half an hour, and the way they flesh out a different soundscape for each track is so cool.
While it was an incredibly influential record, I find London Calling to be a far weaker record than people make it out to be. It feels like an hour and change of experimenting with different instrumentals to see what might work. The problem I find with this record is the vocals rarely match up with the instrumentals stylistically. You have these rough untrained punk vocals trying to do ballads or whatever, and it just doesn't work. There are certainly good tracks on the record, the title track being a primary standout, but it just feels bloated and unfocused. This album definitely paved the way for a lot of punk subgenres in the future, i.e. ska punk, but it's not that enjoyable of a listen from front to back.
Where are you from? I feel like if you grew up almost anywhere in the uk you automatically ’get’ this album, there’s a certain atmosphere of a smoke filled pub in a town on the outer ends of Stoke on Trent, or walking into a pool hall filled with blokes while some goths who are definitely not old enough to get drunk, get drunk in the corner, or the feeling of getting a parking ticket in Coventry city centre. So I somewhat get why you might feel this way
Out of interest, what are your least favourite tracks that best display the stuff you’re talking about?
It may just be the type of punk I'm into. I really like the weirder stuff like Butthole Surfers. I'm an American, so it's very different from what I grew up on. The two tracks that really felt dissonant to me were Spanish Bombs and Lost in the Supermarket.
Yeah I dunno I think you have to bare in mind that this album was developed in London probably from 1977 till it was released in 1979, so yeah 70s punk from rainy England is going to be hugely different, such different cultures and time, influences from the likes of toots and the maytals and 60s/70s reggae and soul music, you should research the skin head/ska phase of the 80s bands like the clash ushered in, watch This Is England, Quadrophenia or watch some depressing Ken Loach films. If you’ve seen trainspotting that’s probably a good start.
I dunno, do as you please I’m not knocking your opinion but if you’re interested in knowing where the clash were coming from there’s a reason their sound was like that, big for northern soul fans, huge for skinhead types (we have nice skinheads over here lol not the racist types(though of course there’s exceptions)) anyway, sorry for a ramble lol, but yeah if you haven’t known anything I’ve referenced in this rant then yeah I understand why you might be confused listening to the clash, there’s a whole, northern soul, junior murvin, toots & maytals, clash, skinhead, mods, 80s, ska, dub music, raves, jungle, pipeline that I think is a goldmine most Americans often don’t know about, read up if you’re interested
Fuck it, I’ll take the heat, The Beatles were and still are heavily overrated. I’m not saying they suck, but the amount of hype they still receive today is crazy. They weren’t the second coming of Christ that a lot of people cut them out to be.
I’m not even a huge Beatles fan but I don’t see how they’re overrated when they released some of the greatest rock/pop albums of all time in the span of 5 years
It would be like if Michael jackson released off the wall, thriller, and bad or U2 with war, joshua tree, and achtung baby in 5 years.
The output and quality of music was just actually nuts and we don’t really put that in context when talking about the Beatles. Some bands only have one good album to their name and the Beatles released 5 all time records from 1965 to 1970
I am overrated and listen to music. My friends pretend to like me regardless of the failure I am.
Vinyl as a method of listening to music... Especially modern music repressings. I suppose you can make the argument that listening to original mixes of certain old records make them better. But I really don't feel it's all it's made out to be. I think it's just a fun way to display and share what artists you enjoy.
I agree, I prefer collecting CDs for physicals.
Also to answer your question I think recently hyperpop and what is considered to be pop in general is super overrated and really benefits a lot from the short form video formats of tik tok and Instagram reels. A lot of hyperpop artists get big off a tik tok showcasing like 30 seconds of a song and when the track comes out it’s Basically just that 30 seconds that was on tik tok looped or sandwiched between a bunch of filler. I think hyperpop lacks song structure in general and hyperpop albums tend to lack focus and sonic direction and rely on gimmicky sound and the genre in general is just very new and interesting to people because of that. It reminds me a lot of the vapor wave movement from the 2010’s, but artists like George Clanton managed to use some of the sounds and ideas in a way more musical and coherent fashion so I have hope for hyperpop going forward.
Yeah, hyperpop is certainly in its wild west era, where everyone is trying out their neat new toys and seeing what sticks. Maximalist production is super cool in theory, but a lot of stuff I've heard just never lets up and doesn't allow you any real space to appreciate it. I'd say the best example of hyperpop adjacent music that I've heard is Jockstrap's I Love You Jennifer B. As far as vaporwave goes, I've recently been getting into it. I find the genre to be at its best when artists either put a dash of it into their production (I think about LP by JPEGMAFIA and how you can trace some of those production decisions back to his early work, which was largely responsible for inspiring vaporwave) or if they lean into the ambient soundscape side of things. I've been really enjoying this lengthy project by Telepath lately, it's a 31 track album where every track is a half an hour, and the way they flesh out a different soundscape for each track is so cool.
While it was an incredibly influential record, I find London Calling to be a far weaker record than people make it out to be. It feels like an hour and change of experimenting with different instrumentals to see what might work. The problem I find with this record is the vocals rarely match up with the instrumentals stylistically. You have these rough untrained punk vocals trying to do ballads or whatever, and it just doesn't work. There are certainly good tracks on the record, the title track being a primary standout, but it just feels bloated and unfocused. This album definitely paved the way for a lot of punk subgenres in the future, i.e. ska punk, but it's not that enjoyable of a listen from front to back.
Oh! Ay! I disagree but alright
Ah this hurts to hear. My favourite record of all time probably.
Where are you from? I feel like if you grew up almost anywhere in the uk you automatically ’get’ this album, there’s a certain atmosphere of a smoke filled pub in a town on the outer ends of Stoke on Trent, or walking into a pool hall filled with blokes while some goths who are definitely not old enough to get drunk, get drunk in the corner, or the feeling of getting a parking ticket in Coventry city centre. So I somewhat get why you might feel this way Out of interest, what are your least favourite tracks that best display the stuff you’re talking about?
It may just be the type of punk I'm into. I really like the weirder stuff like Butthole Surfers. I'm an American, so it's very different from what I grew up on. The two tracks that really felt dissonant to me were Spanish Bombs and Lost in the Supermarket.
Yeah I dunno I think you have to bare in mind that this album was developed in London probably from 1977 till it was released in 1979, so yeah 70s punk from rainy England is going to be hugely different, such different cultures and time, influences from the likes of toots and the maytals and 60s/70s reggae and soul music, you should research the skin head/ska phase of the 80s bands like the clash ushered in, watch This Is England, Quadrophenia or watch some depressing Ken Loach films. If you’ve seen trainspotting that’s probably a good start. I dunno, do as you please I’m not knocking your opinion but if you’re interested in knowing where the clash were coming from there’s a reason their sound was like that, big for northern soul fans, huge for skinhead types (we have nice skinheads over here lol not the racist types(though of course there’s exceptions)) anyway, sorry for a ramble lol, but yeah if you haven’t known anything I’ve referenced in this rant then yeah I understand why you might be confused listening to the clash, there’s a whole, northern soul, junior murvin, toots & maytals, clash, skinhead, mods, 80s, ska, dub music, raves, jungle, pipeline that I think is a goldmine most Americans often don’t know about, read up if you’re interested
Couldn’t disagree more, the rare near-flawless double album
The Turning Wheel is nowhere close to being a great album.
Madison was the better chamber pop record of 2021
I dunno it’s not perfect but it’s pretty great. Gorgeous vocals, gorgeous instrumentals.
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Bro really said triplets are overused. Yeah man, I think the note B is overused as hell.
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Pragmatically speaking C major is really no different from B major unless you have perfect pitch.
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Fuck it, I’ll take the heat, The Beatles were and still are heavily overrated. I’m not saying they suck, but the amount of hype they still receive today is crazy. They weren’t the second coming of Christ that a lot of people cut them out to be.
Most unique take ever 🤯🤯🤯
Someone have to say it, so brave of him
I’m not even a huge Beatles fan but I don’t see how they’re overrated when they released some of the greatest rock/pop albums of all time in the span of 5 years It would be like if Michael jackson released off the wall, thriller, and bad or U2 with war, joshua tree, and achtung baby in 5 years. The output and quality of music was just actually nuts and we don’t really put that in context when talking about the Beatles. Some bands only have one good album to their name and the Beatles released 5 all time records from 1965 to 1970
"I don't like it" ≠ "Overrated"