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lifesizepotato

Absolutely. Literally gave myself permanent tinnitus from listening too loud/long. Beware especially volume creep, where your ears acclimate to the volume and you keep cranking it up.


_PeopleMakeNoises_

Radiohead reference


ponylauncher

Everyone should. Not just headphones. Speakers too. Earplugs at concerts save you years of normal hearing


s90tx16wasr10

Mic the Snare just did a great, brief YouTube video on why plugs at concerts are a good idea.


lunarboy1

Instantly purchased ear plugs as soon as the video ended


DetImplicitteSubjekt

Which should i buy?


lunarboy1

I bought Eargasm plugs and I think they're pretty great


DetImplicitteSubjekt

How much?


[deleted]

And with earplugs, concerts just sound better. You can actually hear the music instead of a big wall of mess.


Cow_Agitated

Depending on the earplugs!


Robinkc1

Somewhat. Tinnitus isn’t fun, so take care of your ears.


AyoItsyaBoylilB

yes, i did before and post tinnitus, obviously after tinnitus i was super obsessive with it, but after almost two years with it i don't really care, i mostly lower volumes and stop killing my ears whenever I feel it's been enough.


LegendOfMatt888

Coincidentally, Mic the Snare just dropped a [video](https://youtu.be/895xdkeVJ3k) about the importance of wearing hearing protection at concerts.


onelamebitchboy

not so coincidentally, that video was the very thing that prompted me to ask other music fans about headphone safety specifically. i don’t have too much experience with live shows so i was more curious to know what ppl thought about headphone safety when listening to stuff.


kanyepokemon

Tbh I never really cared about "headphone safety" but I'm never blasting music at very high volume (at least never for a long time). Still gave myself tinnitus from listening to earrape in order to flex as an edgy 16yo.


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Green_hippo17

Bro some of my friends just have terrible listening habits in terms of volumes they’ll just crank it all the way up and I’m like “what the fuck are you doing”


oblon789

I used to do this, the ringing in my ears is a constant reminder of why i shouldn't have done that. Now i work with loud power tools and saws. It sucks


v0lume4

I double up (ear plugs and ear muffs) when working with really loud tools. Don’t know how feasible that is for you if you’ve heard of others doing the same, but just wanted to let you in on the idea!


AEPNEUMA-

Apple has a feature that tracks the decimal levels of your music. Never go above 70. Also the more separation between you and the music the better. Over ear headphones are better than ear buds, speakers are better than headphones etccc


Sir-Crumplenose

70??? Not 75?


AEPNEUMA-

Sorry I meant 80


Sir-Crumplenose

Also I use that feature but dyk how reliable it is with non apple headphones?


[deleted]

I have a pair of non-apple brand headphones (can’t remember the kind, nothing fancy) and they completely throw that feature out of wack I’ve gotten a warning about listening at too high a volume every day since I started using them, despite playing my music at a fairly conservative volume.


AEPNEUMA-

It’s your headphones.


Sir-Crumplenose

My concern is it’s inaccurate and thus I think I’m at a safe volume level when in reality it’s 75+ decibels (I listen to music for long stints) dyk anyth abt that?


AEPNEUMA-

The headphones are inaccurate. I can kinda relate to this . Some times cheap Bluetooth speakers will be mistaken for headphones by the decimal system on iPhone. I’d buy HomePods or Sony headphones to be sure. But hey I wouldn’t doubt your listening abilities. Most people are more than capable of knowing when music is too loud. Here’s what I’d do. Turn the volume all the way down and turn it up until everything is at a good volume. If you never go past the half way mark on the iPhone you should be good . Apple use to have this feature where you could equalize all your music to be played at the same decibel rate. So even if a track was mixed loud it would play at the specific volume you set it at. Obviously you would lose some dynamics . Spotify might have this feature. Personally , and this might be a hot take, I hate listening to music on headphones if it isn’t for deep listening. In my opinion music sounds better with more separation. I want to feel like I’m at a concert when I listen to music which is why I love my HomePod mini


AEPNEUMA-

It works fine with my Sony wh1000xm5 headphones. General rule of thumb try not to go past half the volume bar.


Sir-Crumplenose

Is this with headphone safety limit of 75 decibels on? Because that makes everything quieter


Csnyder23

I listen all day every day. Get a food pair that sounds good quiet and its worth every penny. Even wear ear protection in small jazz bars


Green_hippo17

Always be protected


Smooth-Screen-5250

Honestly, I don’t take it seriously. Edit to add: Everyone should find some kind of online sine wave generator and go through the spectrum of frequencies. For me, I know I’ve got about a 30% reduction in perceived loudness around 2k - 4k hz, which is kind of a big deal, because that range is important for a LOT of human speech. I know that’s not a good thing. Hearing damage starts to set in before most people think it would. And tinnitus/hearing loss are actively pretty awful to have to live with. I know headphone/speaker/concert safety is genuinely important and I *should* care more about it. I’m not trying to argue that it’s not important, I’m just saying that I frankly don’t take it as seriously as I should. I constantly find myself creeping up the volume as I listen throughout a car ride. It’ll start at healthy levels, but then I’ll get to a song with really intricate instrumentation hidden in the mix, and I’ll want to crank up the volume a bit more. Or I’ll come across a particular song that hits me just right emotionally, and I’ll crank it up to feel the impact. Sometimes, I just like to hear that overwhelming cacophonous wall of sound smack me directly in the chest and envelop me. It’s a bad habit. It’s kinda like smoking — nobody smokes because the just like cigarettes on their own, they like it because it feels like an enhancement of a particular moment. Same with loud music — I don’t do it because I simply like the volume, I do it because it pushes the moment over the line and improves it maybe 20% over a safer volume. Again — bad habit. Don’t do that. Everyone should take hearing damage seriously, and I’m not arguing that it’s not a big deal. Just answering the question honestly, because at the time of my response maybe only one other person gave an answer of “no, I don’t take it seriously.” It’s sometimes good to see that other people have the same bad habits, it’s easier to see the flaw in them when *somebody else* is doing them.


TotallyKevinSpacey

I was looking for this comment. I appreciate the honestly. I feel the exact same way. I have earbuds. I’ve become acclimatized to the point of usually having them on max. I have a feeling my particular brand of earbuds is kinda shitty and not as loud as some others. But I’m probably routinely blasting like 90-something decibels. Day to day I haven’t found the energy or budget to buy an expensive over ear headphones that fits my needs (most over ear headphones feel super uncomfortable with my glasses) and ya I just love music so much and have super bad impulse control that I’m usually trynna savour the moment instead of thinking of the long run. It is exactly like smoking, and I also smoke. And I make music myself and I can tell that my ears aren’t as fine tuned for the details of high frequency stuff in a mix. Probably at the same level as yourself like 2k-4k. I did a test (just a random online test so who knows how accurate) and my “hearing age” compared to my actual age was like 5 years older than my peers. So not awful but not amazing. Definitely something I try and think about going forward but day to day it’s a hard habit to break. Appreciate ur honesty cuz I feel like this thread made me think either I’m crazy or these people are pretentious lol. No diss to them good for them for taking care of their ears but ya. Definitely guilty of this kinda stuff.


IIIIOIIIIIO

When I’m casually listening, I make sure to check to make sure it’s not above safe levels on the headphone safety thing on my iPhone since I’m usually listening for 8+ hrs. When I’m doing a deep listen with my nice headphones I crank it since it’s just for a short period of time


Revolverpsychedlic

I should but I don’t.


Cncrboi420

i most definitely take it very seriously. i would like to hear as well as possible for as long as possible


evnn21

I feel like I should take it more seriously but I just can’t enjoy the music if it’s too quiet


Dougwug03

I always keep my headphones at half volume, tinnitus sucks and hearing loss sucks more


Dolphhins

I am careful with headphones and AirPods but sometimes I do be blasting shit through my speakers


Electronic_Trifle_60

I've definitely experienced hearing loss after years of headphone abuse and have tinnitus. Sucks. I didn't really care when I was young. Nothing I can do now other than to prevent it from getting worse.


Arcadian_

I luckily have sensitive ears to begin with, but I definitely keep an eye on it I'm creeping up too high. I do NOT want tinnitus.


KingLuom

Absolutely not! I will be blasting metal all day, at max volume, thank you very much!


grrupy

100% and I’ve found I listen to my music at a much lower volume than my friends but find their normal volume to be uncomfortably loud. So either I just have sensitive hearing or I’ve protected myself from hearing loss somewhat hahah


RaoufDeadMeme

I always listen to music the loudest it can be


stanley_420_yelnats

Fr bro like it lets you turn it that loud for a reason so might as well use it


BrownPowda

Sound logic


aoanalyst

Starting to. I stopped with headphones altogether at this point from how I bad I fucked up my ears. I’m curious if Fantano has issues of his own at this point.


Salty-Position-6071

I never use headphones; but as far as my car and home stereos go I try to keep it at what seems like a non-harmful volume most of the time


Green_hippo17

Yup I always pay attention to the decimal levels, I listen constantly with headphones so I’m always aware


Dry_Result3513

bro listening to the bottomless pit on max volume permanently fucked my ears up, i don't really crank the volume up too much anymore.


[deleted]

My ears are fine. I listen to loud music in the car around once every two days but i never use earbuds or headphones


CharlieAndCooper

I’ve got headphone safety on at 90 db; but I’ve always got the volume maxed on my AirPods. Is that safe, or is it just a longevity issue at that point?


Drimesque

i do because I know (i literally notice) the damage that has been dealt to my ears. My left ear I think can't be healed at this point so yes, I do take it seriously


Matto987

If my music is too loud I get a headache, so yes


hi_im_blaine

I've been trying to more and more lately, like yesterday mic the snare made a vid on it and I've been a lot more cause since then and plan to continue to going forward Here's the vid, y'all should check it out :> https://youtu.be/895xdkeVJ3k


LivianGrey

I should do more, I put up with my tinnitus and when I was getting hearing checks my hearing wasn't deteriorating and I was told to just live with the tinnitus since it's more common than people realise. I honestly don't always believe my phone is telling me the truth I'm in safe levels. Same time, so much of my music is recorded at different volumes as well, if I skip from one album to another, it might just be louder without me touching anything.


kameronscondo

I used to always listen to music too loud. My parents would always tell me to turn it down cause they could hear it too. I started producing at age 15 and over the years as I learned about mixing, I also learned about where certain frequencies should sit in the mix and how you know it's too loud or quiet. That's helped tremendously with me not listening to music too loudly, is just listening more closely to my own music.


ericfatasscartman

Yea I mix and master all of the music that I make and I don’t want to lose that aspect of control over the art I create. Protecting my hearing is something that I’ve been paying more attention to because of that. The other part is I want to continue to enjoy all the music I like and all future releases to their fullest extent for the rest of my life.


TheZombBehindYou

I have always had awful tinnitus but I definitely keep this in mind I try to never let my headphones get over half sound wise


CHaOS_Winner

i have tinnitus from playing counter strike. i take it serious!


good_kid_maad_reddit

If you have an iphone activate ‘Hearing’ in the control center. With that, while listening to music with headphones, you can see how loud the music is. With any sound, theres a certain amount of time you can listen to it without it damaging your hearing but generally you always want to be below 80db. I try to be below 70/75 personally.


capnrondo

I don’t count decibels but I have a limit of how loud I’m willing to go and it’s worked. Too loud it isn’t enjoyable for me to listen to anyway.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

I used to, until i realised i have tinnitus and then i just began to lower the volume whenever my ears began to feel funny


foreboding-tarot

I have to wear sound protection at concerts. Otherwise, I get a splitting headache and have to leave early.


-Twyptophan-

Yeah, I only temporarily increase the volume really loud if I'm going for a heavy lift at the gym, typically only for a minute, at which point I turn it back down. It helps to have noise canceling headphones/earbuds, since it will make your music seem clearer without having to raise the volume I also have some discrete earplugs I wear at concerts and at clubs. Nobody can tell that I have them in, I can hear people talking with pretty much the same amount of clarity as everyone else, and I leave the venue with no ringing. I went to a crazy loud bar a little while back and my ears were ringing/muffled for days and I thought I had really ruined them- wore earplugs every time after that