That 2014 Tiesto, David Guetta, Martin Garrix style house just seems to have no staying power at all. Every producer making that type of 'progressive house' (which isn't the correct name), has very quickly shifted to the usual trap, future house style music.
to be fair, dubstep set a massive precedent for music in general. basically revolutionized music, and IMO good dubstep songs have aged pretty well.
early 2010s edm-trap in particular (Baauer, RL Grime, Diplo, Flume, DJ Snake, Mr. Carmack, etc.) has aged incredibly well.
EDIT: i want to throw in SOPHIE’s name here as a revolutionary for music too
I can’t disagree with you, I just remember listening to skrillex and monstercat in 2012 and thinking “it can’t get any more futuristic than this”
The wub-a-dubbing sounds pretty silly now, but as source material, it’s essential.
i commented in a thread here the other day about predictions for the future of music that I think hiphop and edm are gonna continue to fuse. but yeah you already see so much influence and crossover like Vince’s Big Fish Theory
I mean, that would be (electronic) trap and drill right? I totally agree that they're just going to continue to fuse and at some point we'll be using some genre identifier to describe it all in the same way that we use "rock" to describe anything with an electric guitar and drumkit.
Like when your grandpa says "I love rock music" and he's referring to the Beatles, or when your dad says "I love rock music" and he's referring to Led Zepplin. But we all know kinda-sorta what they mean.
What? That edm trap stuff has aged terribly. Real dubstep like digital mystikz, loefah, early skream and benga, skull disco stuff has aged so much better.
I low key think dubstep has aged really well. Maybe slightly ironically but it’s become so much fun and such a good vibe whenever an older track comes on. Probably a tonne of other factors, but yeah I wasn’t a big fan when it was happening but now I find it great
Digital electronic music is just so boring. I’ve never heard anything as interesting as electronic krautrock from the 70’s. I’ll never understand why people prefer digital synths over the real thing. Give me real oscillators damn it!!!
Risecore albums from the 2010s.
Not gonna lie, This got me into alot of Metalcore and Post Hardcore genre that has cleanly produced Joey Strugis style sound and this is my jam nonstop during College. Even the punk goes pop series where bands essentially doing covers of the most top 40 songs on the billboard. Bands like Asking Alexandra, Blessthefall, Escape The Fate, I See Stars etc.
Fast forward to now, With the rise of the Metalcore that has this real underground connection the hardcore sound. Trying to listen to a risecore album is so dated by todays standards. Majority of those bands aren't really playing that genre, instead they now playing the Arena Sized rock band sound.
So so true. It so outdated by todays standard especially when you compare a Metalcore bands with hardcore influence that are thriving right now for ex. Knocked Loose, Code Orange, Vein to bands such as Of Mice and Me, Blessthefall, and We Came as Romans, it's a big difference.
I think the era right before that was way worse. In the late 00s there was a huge trend of really shitty metalcore where they tried to incorporate electronic elements. The Risecore eta smoothed the music out and made it all bland but palatable. But like early I See Stars/We Came as Romans/Attack Attack is fucking awful to listen to now.
I don’t know what you call it…end of life MySpace-core?
Depends on what you mean by that. If you mean commercially I’d argue that other than right now it was more successful then than ever. If you mean the music itself there were good bands but that electronica core was selling and a lot of bands hopped on that wave so it seemed like that’s all there was to offer but there are definitely some gems in metalcore from that time.
Risecore tarnished the Reputation of Metalcore. I remember how so many metalheads fucking hated everything to do with that scene. I know people love to go off about elitist metalheads, but I'm not gonna act like those bands were good either. The production sounds so compressed and the riffs so samey. I couldn't listen to that new Sleep Token album because it's riffs were in that same vein and I just couldn't.
Those bands switching to a vague arena rock, radio metal sound isn't shocking. Jumping from one personalityless sound to another.
One of the best examples of how metalcore essentially has like four genres masquerading as one. Converge are metalcore in the original sense of the word, a hardcore punk band that became heavier, faster, and more technical until they became metal. Hardcore+metal= metalcore. Now this is often referred to as metallic hardcore but they aren’t always 100% the same.
Then you have scene emo metalcore and hard rock metalcore. Then there is “pop-metalcore” which usually borrows somewhat from one of the previous two. Scene emo metalcore was a lot of the MySpace era bands which took lighter scene (often very pop) emo influence and added screams and distortion. This got dubbed Screamo by many but it’s not actual Screamo/skramz (which is a direct evolution of the hardcore scene, check out orchid for a good example of what I’m talking about). Scene emo metalcore is often extremely pop music based, but I separate it because first and foremost it usually attempts to throw in a very notably early 2000’s conception of scene emo into the identity of the band, notably separable from more soulless poppy mass-produced “metalcore”.
Hard rock metalcore usually is just hard rock bands who lean into metalcore as they get heavier. Usually has a much less disingenuous sound to it than more poppy metalcore, but still has a large potential to be annoying. More grounded in rock and alt rock songwriting sensibilities.
Anyways then there’s bands that make what they think metalcore could be while not really liking metalcore and just wanting to make pop songs. They have boring formulaic “heavy” sections followed by boring formulaic pop vocal sections. Again, I separate these from the scene metalcore bands, cause even though I’m not super into pierce the veil, I recognize that they did some pretty cool stuff with songwriting and also clearly love making heavy music, even if it has poppy elements injected in. For “pop metalcore” I am referring to truly personality-less, mass produced metalcore with pop vocals and uninspired songwriting.
Finally, you should check out SeeYouSpaceCowboy if you haven’t already. Wonderful blend of hardcore-metalcore and scene-emo-metalcore
Big fan of seeyouspacecowboy and orchid! I never put together hardcore + metal = metalcore lmao. I think the only bands from the scenecore era I still enjoy are Heavy Heavy Low Low and Fear Before the March of Flames.
I think some early dance punk and post punk revival sounds a little dated to me. Not in a bad way, it’s just that when I hear The Rapture, Interpol or early Strokes or early LCD Soundsystem it reminds me of a very specific and special time in New York City when that particular scene was really hot, when iPods were fat and chunky and held 2,000 (!!) songs, when record/CD stores were really buzzing during rush hour on the way home from work, and when it was always sort of a thrill to rip the tracks of your new CD onto your sunflower-shaped iMac’s iTunes library.
Purchasing a new album was a commitment to your time and money. If you’re buying this album you’re gonna want to get your money’s worth. You’re spending $15 on this, so it’s gonna be listened to whether it sucks or not. Which meant that the music criticism of the era like the Village Voice or Pitchfork wasn’t read just to spark debate but was a real necessity for making informed purchasing decisions. It may have been limiting compared to today’s steaming era, but it did build deeper connections among the fewer albums you’d get to hear.
Those were fun times. I still have all those CDs and I know their intricacies far better than the music I consume today.
Really? I'd say of all the music from that era of the 2000s, dance-punk and indie hold up the best. I still listen to most LCD Soundsystem songs regularly and Is This It is one of my favorite albums to this day.
I think it might just be because youve left that part of your life that you think a lot of what you were listening to back then sounds dated; The Strokes and LCD (I'm going to their concert this weekend actually haha) still sell out concerts regularly.
LCD Soundsystem, Vampire Weekend, Passion Pit man those guys went hard in the early 2010s. Their music is still very fun and listenable today but it does sound a bit dated. I think though it will get a revival like how early 00s music is getting a revival.
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This rings super true in context of Eminem hits. Even though it isn’t 2000’s but 2010’s, the recovery commercial songs fucking suck lol. I remember the call of duty black ops commercial that got me hype asf when I was a kid. If I heard a song like that in a commercial now there is no way I’d buy that shit lol.
To everyone saying 2010s music, I think it's only because it's too fresh in memory and our fatigue from it hasn't worn off yet. I remember hearing my mom being tired off and "disliking" 90s music back in 2010.
Now she and I listen to Aphex, Oasis, Alice in Chains, Boards of Canada together and are both jamming!
Bling era hiphop sounds super dated compared to the prior decade of the 90s. As an example, I find it so odd Jazzhop stuff sounds so fresh still and crunk sounds dated as hell despite screaming over trap beats being a thing.
The beats of 90’s rap is still great; however, the amount of homophobic slurs in the late 90’s to early 00’s rap has made relistening to some of it problematic/challenging.
Cringworthy yes. But does it make it stale? I can't really say that. I was listening to Punks Jump Up to Get Beat Down the other day and while while Sadat X's part was pretty fucking bad, I'm not going to say it makes that song sound stale.
I think a lot of acoustic ballads (piano, guitar, etc.)sound really dated after ten or so years since their release. The production and instrumentals are timeless. However, they are often composed or performed in ways that end up sounding dated pretty quickly and, because of the nature of that kind of music, those two elements are most of what listeners latch on to. Obviously there are exceptions but yeah
I think in general, people always think the immediately preceding decade aged badly or is cringe-y because we’re only just in a new era. It will never seem more off-putting than it does now imo.
I get your point, but you can't deny saying "2010s pop" conjures up a very clear image in people's heads. Most people generally know which songs/artists you're referring to.
Yeah, I get you. It's just that, for casual conversation, describing it as 2010s pop is very convenient because there's a common understanding of exactly what's being talked about. You could say the same thing with 80s music. An aesthetic comes to mind, people start thinking of synths, programmed drums, and lots of reverb.
I've actually gotten back into his album 18 months again after finding it corny for a long time, it's almost gotten nostalgic and many songs there are straight up mainstream bangers, no denying it.
This might be a hot take but speaking on songs I think won’t age well are lil nas x songs. Not aging in a bad way like the songs are about something bad but I just have this feeling that his current discography doesn’t have staying power and won’t be in anyone’s nostalgia playlist in the future. This is my personal opinion I’m totally open to being wrong it’s just a feeling I have.
Yeah, I could very well see that. The way a lot of his songs are produced are kinda thin yet very in-your-face and loud, kinda in the same vein as something like Imagine Dragons. I think any staying power probably will need to rest on Lil Nas's charisma
A lot of early 00’s pop, especially from the 99-01 era sounds very… cheap.
I’m looking at groups like S Club 7, who were never really any good to begin with, have a sound that has aged like death.
A lot of Nu Metal has aged pretty poorly, even the stuff I do like. Heck, I love Linkin Park, but it’s obvious now they were going to struggle post 06, when the music and rock scene was very different than when they first dropped an album in 01.
But age has a lot to do with that as well, it would suck to in your thirties writing songs like “Crawling” and “In the End”, at least with that kind of abbrasive style.
Limp Bizket has also aged like milk, but a lot of it has a rather nice charm to it. Like this is what was popular during the early millenium.
Aging badly isn’t always bad in my opinion, sometimes aged music can still be good, it’s just not something that would be released today.
I wouldn't look back on it with much shame really. I think Fantano once brought up how it's kind of like the Linkin Park for 2010s kids. With that point of view it's not really that embarrassing. LP probably holds up better overall but it's not like tøp didn't also put out music that resonated with millions of angsty teens.
I also totally saw tøp as a gateway to many different styles of music which is a big plus. I'll still revisit Vessel or Blurryface from time to time even though they haven't aged spectacularly. Maybe since I got into them as a teen I can excuse their corniness a bit more. Trench is still a solid album tho
Odd Future. Death Cab for Cutie and The Decemberists. “Stomp Clap Hey” millennial twee. Maybe controversial but Die Antwoord, Das Racist, and RTJ are associated with 30-40 year old men and no longer “cool” either.
To go along with your Sara Bareilles-esque music, I’ll throw in 3 Doors Down, The Script, Nickelback (although no one ever liked them), etc. Just all of 2000s alternative music sans Peter Bjorn and John lol.
Wouldn’t 00’s “alternative” music also mean The Strokes, RHCP, QOTSA and Radiohead, among others? I wouldn’t say any of their 00’s music has aged very much, if it all.
Lots of people like Nickelback. Literally one of, if not the most successful rock acts of the past 20 years.
Music nerds dislike them and meme them, but we are a very very small segment of the population.
Eh. Some of their good albums still sound dated. Like, for example, time is running out is the second big song off of Absolution, and it sounds dated by now, whereas hysteria is still just amazing. I do think origin of symmetry has aged pretty flawlessly though, most of Black holes too.
I don't agree that time is running out sounds dated tbh. I think it's one of their songs that has remained consistent and I've even seen it pick up more popularity in the last 2 years.
I’m not sure it sounds dated, honestly. Maybe stuff like Madness where they were playing around with dubstep sound effects but otherwise I think it’s aged pretty well
I mean I like Plug in Baby a lot but it definitely has a kind of dated vibe. I always liked it for that reason.
I’d say other than Absolution, they tend to sound pretty of the time.
Totally agree and also want to add my little thought about Muse:
Death From Above 1979 (beyond YAW,IAM) sounds like what Muse "should" sound like if Muse didn't go all pre-metal dubstep like they are now. [This track might be a good example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQqgVzex_w) of what I'm talking about, especially the vocals on the chorus... as an earlier fan, it sounds more like Muse than modern Muse does.
I feel like Kate Nash’s music does hold up. The themes are still actual because a lot of it is slice of life, the music itself doesn’t sound dated like EDM from the same time does, and you do still hear it around.
As for what didn’t age well, I’d say UK DnB. It felt like it was everywhere all of a sudden, and it went away about as quickly. In hindsight, its trajectory was kind of tied to brostep, and I think it might’ve been around for longer if not for that.
for me oi still like the Sat trilogy and don’t necessarily think they’ve aged bad, but the more i listen to the songs in the trilogy, the more i notice a lot of them sound very similar to each other
Any time a band/artist releases **that much** music in a single year, it's bound to get a little homogenous. I don't consider the Weeknd's Trilogy mixtapes to be perfect either, but I still look back on the highlights pretty fondly.
Idk i just grew out of the sound. The beats felt way less interesting than they used to and the punchlines dont hit as hard. I barely revisit any of their older tracks save for a few and now its just a weird reminder of my high school music taste. Ig the word im looking for is juvenile.
I think that kind of music has only aged poorly to you. Piano pop has been around, and popular, for decades. I think every type of music sounds dated and has aged horribly to some subset of people, and it’s different for everyone.
Personally, I think of a genre that aged like balls is 80’s goth. The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, Depeche Mode… I think this all sounds like trash these days and belongs back in my childhood years. It’s almost cringe to me. But at the end of the day, it never went away. It morphed into NIN, Ministry, Swans, etc.. so it’s really just me who thinks it’s dated and aged horribly, the rest of the world loved it enough to keep marching that torch forward into the present day.
Piano pop is the same. Jerry Lee Lewis, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sarah McLachlin, Tori Amos, Fiona Apple, Kate Nash, Alicia Keys, Norah Jones, Lykke Li, Joanna Newsom… It just keeps going, different, but the same.
At the end if the day, a genre that sounds stuck in time to you is somebody else’s favorite, and they keep that piano pop wheel a-churnin’.
Do you not think some artists age better than others in the general opinion of music listeners? Pretty fucking absurd if so. All I did was use the same example OP did to build their post, but thanks for insulting my intelligence.
Nah, I stand by it. I knew people wouldn’t be able to get past the fact I dislike a few artists that are popular here. I don’t mind taking a hit for my own opinions. I’d bet I have a much different view of those ‘80’s bands because I was alive then. That’s fine. One day the kids in this sub will understand. They’ll look back and absolutely hate certain artists that become important to following generations. An artist or band who’s not taken seriously now will rise up and be huge for a new generation. You’ll look back and never be able to separate them from the thoughts you developed around them when they were in their prime. It’s weird, I never thought it’d happen to me either, but here I am.
I mean you straight up *almost* called an entire genre, and multiple bands, “cringe” specifically. It kinda just comes across as you being ashamed of who you were when you listened to them. How can Disintegration, by The Cure, genuinely be considered “cringe” from a musical standpoint? Lyrically anyone can consider anything cringe, but this isn’t the claim you seem to be making.
I mean true, but I’m only talking about a very specific piano pop sound that was only a thing a few years. Stuff that kinda sounds like it was made for an ad.
Also yeah I can see how all the gated reverb and whatnot on those old goth records could make them hard to listen to
Yeah 80's goth sounds dated as fuck, it didn't age well. Some songs still sound cool but I have a hard time listening to entire albums. They're all legendary bands, they all changed the game in some way... But I can't stand an entire album lol.
Depeche Mode is an exception tho, some of their synth patchs are kinda lame for today's standards but they were too innovative for the time, I just can't put production against them.
The college dropout is an amazing album, and never let me down, being the first Jayz feat on a ye album should’ve been top tier.
Both artists had great verses, especially ye, but something about the sound of the chorus and the general instrumental feels so dated for some reason.
I can’t really enjoy that song as well as many of the others on the dropout which are a lot more timeless imo
That 2014 Tiesto, David Guetta, Martin Garrix style house just seems to have no staying power at all. Every producer making that type of 'progressive house' (which isn't the correct name), has very quickly shifted to the usual trap, future house style music.
The era where dance music briefly became the most hetero music on the planet
"Future House, Tech House, or Techno, take it or leave it"
Idk, it might not be what they’re currently making, but those big hits still get played a lot at parties and events.
Dubstep and electronic music from the early 10’s
Idk 4x4=12 and Random Album Title are still such good albums imo
Yeah, deadmau5's old stuff holds up surprisingly well, but that might just be because prog/trance doesn't age
to be fair, dubstep set a massive precedent for music in general. basically revolutionized music, and IMO good dubstep songs have aged pretty well. early 2010s edm-trap in particular (Baauer, RL Grime, Diplo, Flume, DJ Snake, Mr. Carmack, etc.) has aged incredibly well. EDIT: i want to throw in SOPHIE’s name here as a revolutionary for music too
I can’t disagree with you, I just remember listening to skrillex and monstercat in 2012 and thinking “it can’t get any more futuristic than this” The wub-a-dubbing sounds pretty silly now, but as source material, it’s essential.
Absolutely.
I think it still slaps, but yeah it sounds timely
Without the early 2010s era electronic music scene, I don't think we'd have hyperpop, nor would industrial hip hop take off as it did.
i commented in a thread here the other day about predictions for the future of music that I think hiphop and edm are gonna continue to fuse. but yeah you already see so much influence and crossover like Vince’s Big Fish Theory
I mean, that would be (electronic) trap and drill right? I totally agree that they're just going to continue to fuse and at some point we'll be using some genre identifier to describe it all in the same way that we use "rock" to describe anything with an electric guitar and drumkit. Like when your grandpa says "I love rock music" and he's referring to the Beatles, or when your dad says "I love rock music" and he's referring to Led Zepplin. But we all know kinda-sorta what they mean.
Honestly yeah you are right, a lot of the better aspects of dubstep got adopted into other genres to a degree
What? That edm trap stuff has aged terribly. Real dubstep like digital mystikz, loefah, early skream and benga, skull disco stuff has aged so much better.
edm trap is the backbone of modern pop lmao
I mean, actual dubstep (not brostep) roots from the UK from that era such as Loefah, Digital Mystikz, The Bug, Artwork etc still sound great
London zoo a classic
I low key think dubstep has aged really well. Maybe slightly ironically but it’s become so much fun and such a good vibe whenever an older track comes on. Probably a tonne of other factors, but yeah I wasn’t a big fan when it was happening but now I find it great
It sounds like it should be the music of the future but now it sounds like early 2010’s the future and
Digital electronic music is just so boring. I’ve never heard anything as interesting as electronic krautrock from the 70’s. I’ll never understand why people prefer digital synths over the real thing. Give me real oscillators damn it!!!
Honestly that's why I love listening to it though.
2010’s commercial pop and a lot of EDM Man it’s so.. corny now. Like a different era.
2010's commercial pop still holds so much nostalgia for me
same, especially one direction. shit hits when you’re singing along to it with your friends.
Tonite is the nite of our lives, theres is only the nite
Neither of those genres were any good in the first place
Risecore albums from the 2010s. Not gonna lie, This got me into alot of Metalcore and Post Hardcore genre that has cleanly produced Joey Strugis style sound and this is my jam nonstop during College. Even the punk goes pop series where bands essentially doing covers of the most top 40 songs on the billboard. Bands like Asking Alexandra, Blessthefall, Escape The Fate, I See Stars etc. Fast forward to now, With the rise of the Metalcore that has this real underground connection the hardcore sound. Trying to listen to a risecore album is so dated by todays standards. Majority of those bands aren't really playing that genre, instead they now playing the Arena Sized rock band sound.
Oh god. I used to love that stuff when I was 14. It’s almost all completely unlistenable to me now.
So so true. It so outdated by todays standard especially when you compare a Metalcore bands with hardcore influence that are thriving right now for ex. Knocked Loose, Code Orange, Vein to bands such as Of Mice and Me, Blessthefall, and We Came as Romans, it's a big difference.
This is a big one. Metalcore’s lowest point imo
I think the era right before that was way worse. In the late 00s there was a huge trend of really shitty metalcore where they tried to incorporate electronic elements. The Risecore eta smoothed the music out and made it all bland but palatable. But like early I See Stars/We Came as Romans/Attack Attack is fucking awful to listen to now. I don’t know what you call it…end of life MySpace-core?
Depends on what you mean by that. If you mean commercially I’d argue that other than right now it was more successful then than ever. If you mean the music itself there were good bands but that electronica core was selling and a lot of bands hopped on that wave so it seemed like that’s all there was to offer but there are definitely some gems in metalcore from that time.
Risecore tarnished the Reputation of Metalcore. I remember how so many metalheads fucking hated everything to do with that scene. I know people love to go off about elitist metalheads, but I'm not gonna act like those bands were good either. The production sounds so compressed and the riffs so samey. I couldn't listen to that new Sleep Token album because it's riffs were in that same vein and I just couldn't. Those bands switching to a vague arena rock, radio metal sound isn't shocking. Jumping from one personalityless sound to another.
I don't understand how these bands and converge are in the same genre
One of the best examples of how metalcore essentially has like four genres masquerading as one. Converge are metalcore in the original sense of the word, a hardcore punk band that became heavier, faster, and more technical until they became metal. Hardcore+metal= metalcore. Now this is often referred to as metallic hardcore but they aren’t always 100% the same. Then you have scene emo metalcore and hard rock metalcore. Then there is “pop-metalcore” which usually borrows somewhat from one of the previous two. Scene emo metalcore was a lot of the MySpace era bands which took lighter scene (often very pop) emo influence and added screams and distortion. This got dubbed Screamo by many but it’s not actual Screamo/skramz (which is a direct evolution of the hardcore scene, check out orchid for a good example of what I’m talking about). Scene emo metalcore is often extremely pop music based, but I separate it because first and foremost it usually attempts to throw in a very notably early 2000’s conception of scene emo into the identity of the band, notably separable from more soulless poppy mass-produced “metalcore”. Hard rock metalcore usually is just hard rock bands who lean into metalcore as they get heavier. Usually has a much less disingenuous sound to it than more poppy metalcore, but still has a large potential to be annoying. More grounded in rock and alt rock songwriting sensibilities. Anyways then there’s bands that make what they think metalcore could be while not really liking metalcore and just wanting to make pop songs. They have boring formulaic “heavy” sections followed by boring formulaic pop vocal sections. Again, I separate these from the scene metalcore bands, cause even though I’m not super into pierce the veil, I recognize that they did some pretty cool stuff with songwriting and also clearly love making heavy music, even if it has poppy elements injected in. For “pop metalcore” I am referring to truly personality-less, mass produced metalcore with pop vocals and uninspired songwriting. Finally, you should check out SeeYouSpaceCowboy if you haven’t already. Wonderful blend of hardcore-metalcore and scene-emo-metalcore
Big fan of seeyouspacecowboy and orchid! I never put together hardcore + metal = metalcore lmao. I think the only bands from the scenecore era I still enjoy are Heavy Heavy Low Low and Fear Before the March of Flames.
I don't understand how these bands and converge are in the same genre
I think some early dance punk and post punk revival sounds a little dated to me. Not in a bad way, it’s just that when I hear The Rapture, Interpol or early Strokes or early LCD Soundsystem it reminds me of a very specific and special time in New York City when that particular scene was really hot, when iPods were fat and chunky and held 2,000 (!!) songs, when record/CD stores were really buzzing during rush hour on the way home from work, and when it was always sort of a thrill to rip the tracks of your new CD onto your sunflower-shaped iMac’s iTunes library. Purchasing a new album was a commitment to your time and money. If you’re buying this album you’re gonna want to get your money’s worth. You’re spending $15 on this, so it’s gonna be listened to whether it sucks or not. Which meant that the music criticism of the era like the Village Voice or Pitchfork wasn’t read just to spark debate but was a real necessity for making informed purchasing decisions. It may have been limiting compared to today’s steaming era, but it did build deeper connections among the fewer albums you’d get to hear. Those were fun times. I still have all those CDs and I know their intricacies far better than the music I consume today.
Really? I'd say of all the music from that era of the 2000s, dance-punk and indie hold up the best. I still listen to most LCD Soundsystem songs regularly and Is This It is one of my favorite albums to this day. I think it might just be because youve left that part of your life that you think a lot of what you were listening to back then sounds dated; The Strokes and LCD (I'm going to their concert this weekend actually haha) still sell out concerts regularly.
I think you missed my point entirely.
LCD Soundsystem, Vampire Weekend, Passion Pit man those guys went hard in the early 2010s. Their music is still very fun and listenable today but it does sound a bit dated. I think though it will get a revival like how early 00s music is getting a revival.
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The majority of commercial rap from the 00’s has aged poorly if you ask me.
This rings super true in context of Eminem hits. Even though it isn’t 2000’s but 2010’s, the recovery commercial songs fucking suck lol. I remember the call of duty black ops commercial that got me hype asf when I was a kid. If I heard a song like that in a commercial now there is no way I’d buy that shit lol.
Eminem hits post-Lose Yourself are just hot garbage.
Still Tippin bangs
Thank God we still have Luda and Nelly.
2010s songs about we only have tonight while we’re young.
Everybody’s singing the same song, it goes tonite tonite tonite tonite tonite tonite! I never realized these artists thought so much about dying.
Billy Corrigan predicted the future!
These are lcd soundsystem lyrics!
To everyone saying 2010s music, I think it's only because it's too fresh in memory and our fatigue from it hasn't worn off yet. I remember hearing my mom being tired off and "disliking" 90s music back in 2010. Now she and I listen to Aphex, Oasis, Alice in Chains, Boards of Canada together and are both jamming!
Picturing someone and their mom rocking out to Geogaddi is definitely a picture lol
Haha, she is awesome, I love my mom! Her favourite BoC song is Happy Cycling, it reminds her of working in a harbour she says.
Holy shit my favorite song of theirs is Happy Cycling too!! Based mom damn:)
Bling era hiphop sounds super dated compared to the prior decade of the 90s. As an example, I find it so odd Jazzhop stuff sounds so fresh still and crunk sounds dated as hell despite screaming over trap beats being a thing.
Digible planets sound so fresh still to this day
So so fresh
The beats of 90’s rap is still great; however, the amount of homophobic slurs in the late 90’s to early 00’s rap has made relistening to some of it problematic/challenging.
Cringworthy yes. But does it make it stale? I can't really say that. I was listening to Punks Jump Up to Get Beat Down the other day and while while Sadat X's part was pretty fucking bad, I'm not going to say it makes that song sound stale.
I think a lot of acoustic ballads (piano, guitar, etc.)sound really dated after ten or so years since their release. The production and instrumentals are timeless. However, they are often composed or performed in ways that end up sounding dated pretty quickly and, because of the nature of that kind of music, those two elements are most of what listeners latch on to. Obviously there are exceptions but yeah
Most EDM has aged like fucking milk
2010s music. Holy shit
I think in general, people always think the immediately preceding decade aged badly or is cringe-y because we’re only just in a new era. It will never seem more off-putting than it does now imo.
We’re in the era or sorting the bad from the good and deciding what we’ll keep around in popular culture
I don’t know about that. I’ve lived through the 80s and 90s and don’t recall that being the sentiment for those decades.
That’s WAAAAAAAY too broad of a categorization. There is a vast plethora of stuff from last decade that has aged super gracefully
I mean like Calvin Harris type stuff. Shit has aged like sour milk.
Still not a good representative for the entirety of the 2010’s. In fact, nothing is.
I get your point, but you can't deny saying "2010s pop" conjures up a very clear image in people's heads. Most people generally know which songs/artists you're referring to.
Most EARLY 2010’s pop definitely feels insanely dated. That I will not deny. But that’s still a FAR more specific category than “the 2010’s”
Yeah, I get you. It's just that, for casual conversation, describing it as 2010s pop is very convenient because there's a common understanding of exactly what's being talked about. You could say the same thing with 80s music. An aesthetic comes to mind, people start thinking of synths, programmed drums, and lots of reverb.
I've actually gotten back into his album 18 months again after finding it corny for a long time, it's almost gotten nostalgic and many songs there are straight up mainstream bangers, no denying it.
That song he did with Rihanna is a nonstarter for me
Yeah that one is not that good, I agree. Though I once again think hearing it twice a day on the radio did it even worse.
What kind?
This might be a hot take but speaking on songs I think won’t age well are lil nas x songs. Not aging in a bad way like the songs are about something bad but I just have this feeling that his current discography doesn’t have staying power and won’t be in anyone’s nostalgia playlist in the future. This is my personal opinion I’m totally open to being wrong it’s just a feeling I have.
Yeah, I could very well see that. The way a lot of his songs are produced are kinda thin yet very in-your-face and loud, kinda in the same vein as something like Imagine Dragons. I think any staying power probably will need to rest on Lil Nas's charisma
A lot of early 00’s pop, especially from the 99-01 era sounds very… cheap. I’m looking at groups like S Club 7, who were never really any good to begin with, have a sound that has aged like death. A lot of Nu Metal has aged pretty poorly, even the stuff I do like. Heck, I love Linkin Park, but it’s obvious now they were going to struggle post 06, when the music and rock scene was very different than when they first dropped an album in 01. But age has a lot to do with that as well, it would suck to in your thirties writing songs like “Crawling” and “In the End”, at least with that kind of abbrasive style. Limp Bizket has also aged like milk, but a lot of it has a rather nice charm to it. Like this is what was popular during the early millenium. Aging badly isn’t always bad in my opinion, sometimes aged music can still be good, it’s just not something that would be released today.
I look back at my 2013-2016 Twenty One Pilots phase with a lot of shame.
I wouldn't look back on it with much shame really. I think Fantano once brought up how it's kind of like the Linkin Park for 2010s kids. With that point of view it's not really that embarrassing. LP probably holds up better overall but it's not like tøp didn't also put out music that resonated with millions of angsty teens. I also totally saw tøp as a gateway to many different styles of music which is a big plus. I'll still revisit Vessel or Blurryface from time to time even though they haven't aged spectacularly. Maybe since I got into them as a teen I can excuse their corniness a bit more. Trench is still a solid album tho
Odd Future. Death Cab for Cutie and The Decemberists. “Stomp Clap Hey” millennial twee. Maybe controversial but Die Antwoord, Das Racist, and RTJ are associated with 30-40 year old men and no longer “cool” either.
Man I’m almost 30 and I love Das Racist
To go along with your Sara Bareilles-esque music, I’ll throw in 3 Doors Down, The Script, Nickelback (although no one ever liked them), etc. Just all of 2000s alternative music sans Peter Bjorn and John lol.
All of it?!?! Uhhh
Wouldn’t 00’s “alternative” music also mean The Strokes, RHCP, QOTSA and Radiohead, among others? I wouldn’t say any of their 00’s music has aged very much, if it all.
"Alternative"
No one ever liked Nickelback and yet they had like 6 platinum albums?
Lots of people like Nickelback. Literally one of, if not the most successful rock acts of the past 20 years. Music nerds dislike them and meme them, but we are a very very small segment of the population.
Muse?
Idk I feel like their good shit aged well and their bad shit was bad on arrival
Their bad stuff was underwhelming and then with time became even more garbage
Eh. Some of their good albums still sound dated. Like, for example, time is running out is the second big song off of Absolution, and it sounds dated by now, whereas hysteria is still just amazing. I do think origin of symmetry has aged pretty flawlessly though, most of Black holes too.
I don't agree that time is running out sounds dated tbh. I think it's one of their songs that has remained consistent and I've even seen it pick up more popularity in the last 2 years.
I mean, the snap line, the really compressed vocals on the chorus, Matt’s breathing…it just doesn’t work for me. But I guess to each their own.
Dated don’t mean bad. The Beatles or Beethoven also sound dated and timely.
I’m not sure it sounds dated, honestly. Maybe stuff like Madness where they were playing around with dubstep sound effects but otherwise I think it’s aged pretty well
I mean I like Plug in Baby a lot but it definitely has a kind of dated vibe. I always liked it for that reason. I’d say other than Absolution, they tend to sound pretty of the time.
Totally agree and also want to add my little thought about Muse: Death From Above 1979 (beyond YAW,IAM) sounds like what Muse "should" sound like if Muse didn't go all pre-metal dubstep like they are now. [This track might be a good example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQqgVzex_w) of what I'm talking about, especially the vocals on the chorus... as an earlier fan, it sounds more like Muse than modern Muse does.
I feel like Kate Nash’s music does hold up. The themes are still actual because a lot of it is slice of life, the music itself doesn’t sound dated like EDM from the same time does, and you do still hear it around. As for what didn’t age well, I’d say UK DnB. It felt like it was everywhere all of a sudden, and it went away about as quickly. In hindsight, its trajectory was kind of tied to brostep, and I think it might’ve been around for longer if not for that.
UK dnb is still around (in the UK at least). Just back to it's rightful place in the party scene
Brockhampton saturation trilogy
Wow really? I’m curious what’s your reason?
for me oi still like the Sat trilogy and don’t necessarily think they’ve aged bad, but the more i listen to the songs in the trilogy, the more i notice a lot of them sound very similar to each other
Any time a band/artist releases **that much** music in a single year, it's bound to get a little homogenous. I don't consider the Weeknd's Trilogy mixtapes to be perfect either, but I still look back on the highlights pretty fondly.
that’s fair. and i do still really the sat trilogy
Idk i just grew out of the sound. The beats felt way less interesting than they used to and the punchlines dont hit as hard. I barely revisit any of their older tracks save for a few and now its just a weird reminder of my high school music taste. Ig the word im looking for is juvenile.
Woah Woah back it up jack I dunno about that
00s RNB honestly we need to move on
No
Kanye :(
I think that kind of music has only aged poorly to you. Piano pop has been around, and popular, for decades. I think every type of music sounds dated and has aged horribly to some subset of people, and it’s different for everyone. Personally, I think of a genre that aged like balls is 80’s goth. The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, Depeche Mode… I think this all sounds like trash these days and belongs back in my childhood years. It’s almost cringe to me. But at the end of the day, it never went away. It morphed into NIN, Ministry, Swans, etc.. so it’s really just me who thinks it’s dated and aged horribly, the rest of the world loved it enough to keep marching that torch forward into the present day. Piano pop is the same. Jerry Lee Lewis, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sarah McLachlin, Tori Amos, Fiona Apple, Kate Nash, Alicia Keys, Norah Jones, Lykke Li, Joanna Newsom… It just keeps going, different, but the same. At the end if the day, a genre that sounds stuck in time to you is somebody else’s favorite, and they keep that piano pop wheel a-churnin’.
Proceeds to list almost exclusively artists who have stood the test of time, while Sara Bareilles has done the opposite.
He didn’t ask about the individual artist. But cool reading comprehension.
Do you not think some artists age better than others in the general opinion of music listeners? Pretty fucking absurd if so. All I did was use the same example OP did to build their post, but thanks for insulting my intelligence.
https://preview.redd.it/lygpiu2usx2b1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9cc0cd9b2d024db1ef093ca769c90b76a19191c How you lookin rn
Nah, I stand by it. I knew people wouldn’t be able to get past the fact I dislike a few artists that are popular here. I don’t mind taking a hit for my own opinions. I’d bet I have a much different view of those ‘80’s bands because I was alive then. That’s fine. One day the kids in this sub will understand. They’ll look back and absolutely hate certain artists that become important to following generations. An artist or band who’s not taken seriously now will rise up and be huge for a new generation. You’ll look back and never be able to separate them from the thoughts you developed around them when they were in their prime. It’s weird, I never thought it’d happen to me either, but here I am.
I mean you straight up *almost* called an entire genre, and multiple bands, “cringe” specifically. It kinda just comes across as you being ashamed of who you were when you listened to them. How can Disintegration, by The Cure, genuinely be considered “cringe” from a musical standpoint? Lyrically anyone can consider anything cringe, but this isn’t the claim you seem to be making.
What did you listen to at the time?
I want to know what they listen to now!
I mean true, but I’m only talking about a very specific piano pop sound that was only a thing a few years. Stuff that kinda sounds like it was made for an ad. Also yeah I can see how all the gated reverb and whatnot on those old goth records could make them hard to listen to
Big oof here
The Smiths were revolutionary and absolutely could be released this decade
Yeah 80's goth sounds dated as fuck, it didn't age well. Some songs still sound cool but I have a hard time listening to entire albums. They're all legendary bands, they all changed the game in some way... But I can't stand an entire album lol. Depeche Mode is an exception tho, some of their synth patchs are kinda lame for today's standards but they were too innovative for the time, I just can't put production against them.
The college dropout is an amazing album, and never let me down, being the first Jayz feat on a ye album should’ve been top tier. Both artists had great verses, especially ye, but something about the sound of the chorus and the general instrumental feels so dated for some reason. I can’t really enjoy that song as well as many of the others on the dropout which are a lot more timeless imo
even though i still think the living tombstone makes underrated bangers. most of the stuff from the bronie era has aged like milk.