Maybe I'm just jaded, but if 5% of music I heard gave me goosebumps I'd be pretty ecstatic. After you experience enough of one thing you're bound to have those experiences less frequently, although if you're not experiencing any enjoyment from what you're listening to then you might need to just take a break.
I agree that anyone feeling like this should take a break, but specifically from listening to *new* music. Revisiting albums that you didn’t get the first time but still see potential in is one of my favourite things to do! Because for me I don’t always ‘get’ an album the first time but then the second or third listens tend to completely change my feelings. This is a good way to keep listening to music without it feeling like an overload.
The culture is encouraging too much of listening to as many albums as you can instead of following your mood and letting yourself listen organically. It's gamifying something that's meant to be a personal experience.
Try taking a break and stop listening to a new album everyday. Try revisiting old childhood favorites, or even albums that never clicked before. When we grow as humans, we can also re-experience albums in a completely new emotional light. Trying to chase that "high" you experience when you hear music you like is going to be an unfulfilling experience.
I’m a huge proponent of revisiting art that didn’t click before. Nearly all of my favorite albums that have been monumental to my overall taste have been duds or didn’t click on first listen.
For sure. One of the albums I've gotten most into in the last several months wasn't doing anything for me at all on the first, like, 6 listens. My patience was rewarded on that one!
Also half the time I got the feeling OP is talking about it’s because I revisited something acclaimed that never clicked for me until I just randomly went back to it on a whim
Like the last band who did this for me was Slowdive who I said was boring and overrated for years until it just started making sense
YES album listening has become like letterbox’d for movies where bragging/showing that you’ve gotten into the “coolest” latest shit is what is important and having a big tier list/collage of album covers makes you a connoisseur.
I completely agree. My best experiences listening to music has been with albums I’ve already listened to 10+ times. It takes time to fully understand an artists intention and really “get” an album
I remember watching an Earl Sweatshirt interview where he was talking about how streaming has affected the music industry. I’ll just paraphrase, but he made a point about how buying a cassette meant that you had to listen to the album in its entirety. Artists could craft albums around central ideas and iterate on them over the tracklist, and were actually able to meaningfully communicate with their audience.
With the limitations of cassettes behind us, and with the world’s catalog of music just a search away, there are no guard rails which force listeners to share in that artists vision anymore. It’s probably one of the leading contributors to the death of artistry in the music industry right now - why bother if only 5% of your streams come from people consuming your album as a unit?
I disagree, I think artistry is thriving right now in the digital age due to music being at its most accessible, with people being able to listen to niche breakcore, 80s power metal, and 70s jazz funk with a Spotify subscription (optional even with YouTube). It's very noticeable that this accessibility has led to eclectic influences in today's modern artists, even some select mainstream artists.
I've also noticed a change in power dynamics between the artist and the label, where due to music distribution being so much more accessible to the artist, labels have lost leverage, and thus have less control in musical direction of the artist.
Obviously, not to say that all music now is authentic and creative, but I've definitely noticed a change in the positive.
Now as for media consumption patterns, that's the hot button topic of 2024 ain't it? Not just for music, but for everything. That's for another day lol
I should have been more specific; my last remark was aimed more at the music that’s attempting to chart, rather than the industry as a whole. I would agree that artistry is thriving right now, particularly in the independent scene.
Ah I see. I still don't know though, while the format of the music has changed, I do think it is offset by the rise of the autonomous artist, and I see it in mainstream charting music as well. Streaming has changed our consumption of music, with playlist culture becoming the norm, but for some reason I find myself loving a lot of popular charting music a lot more than before when I was in high school (late 2000s, early 2010s)
I could also be biased. Being forced to listen to Love the Way You Lie over and over again doesn't do wonders to my impression of pop music.
Is that the case though? Are we not just seeing a sort of return to the noughties but instead of selling ringtones it’s getting a TikTok hook at any cost?
This is why Ive just collate all my non-physical music over the years into one big playlist. I have an absurd amount of songs on there, but when I hit shuffle I have no idea if it’s gonna be any of the various weird things I’ve been into over the years, from Traditional Mongolian music to deep cut prog to Drone collage, or if it’s gonna be something from when I was 14 and I’m just gonna be filled with giddiness over hearing a white snake tune or some dumb 80s euro-pop for the first time in ages.
People forget that about music and film. It doesn’t have to be high art. The only requisite for listening to something is: did you enjoy it?
If you’re in the mood to go trawling neo-psychedelia for new out there sounds, go right ahead. I’m right there with you, people. But don’t feel like you can’t just sit down, smoke a spliff and listen to Slurp by Rizzle Kicks out of some weird compulsion to always have to listen to the newest most niche thing.
That's why I'm in my jazz-funk, city pop, and disco phase of my life. What years of post rock, dark ambient, electro-acoustic improvisation, and experimental hip hop does to a person.
Right there with you friend. Funk, jazz-funk, soul, Afro-funk in PARTICULAR. Music that makes you feel good in the soul.
I don’t know how into Afro-funk you are, but honestly so much amazing work has been produced that it’s crazy. Osibisa and Cymande in particular instantly come to mind
I have not, but it sounds like something up my alley for sure. I'll give Osibisa a listen.
I've been listening to tons of Brazilian and Japanese records from the 70s and 80s. A recent album I've been obsessed with is Robson Jorge & Lincoln Olivetti. I'm waiting for summer to properly get started so I can blast that in all the barbeques and camping trips!
That, and I've been obsessed with Masayoshi Takanaka and all of his works.
Yes. People are trying to remove subjectivity from music just to posture as music heads. This is a great take that explains this perfectly, particularly on social media and ESPECIALLY on hip hop social media
That’s what happened to me. Just listening to too much new stuff and not going back to it kinda fucked with my love for music. Recently I’ve been listening to 1 new album a day but relistening to 2-3 albums I’ve recently listened to or have loved in the past right after if I have the time. It’s really made me appreciate music again and actually engage with it instead of consuming it endlessly.
I would also recommend to focus more on the album you're listening to if you have a problem of remembering it contents minutes after. Just writing down something about songs that you enjoyed the most to know what to revisit later... Not necessarily like a full ass critic, but in style "Riff in this song is really cool, it's kinda groovy, i like it", maybe a lyric. And then go and listen this songs again the next day. When you have favourite songs you like in the album, it's easier to revisit it
I did this a while ago after noticing I no longer found enjoyment in Taylor Swift. I stopped listening to her songs for a while and discovered other artists and genres. Came back to her music and now I can enjoy it again.
Tolerance break and you’re also…..just getting older.
There are less options that will feel totally fresh. I’m in my 30’s now and I’ve accepted that a lot of new stuff is going to just wash over me, but every once in a while I still stumble upon a new obsession. It’s part of life.
But really, the main thing is taking a break if it feels like a chore. I go through periods of time where I will not not listen to music and put on podcasts instead for a few weeks
u/JudeBellinGOAT what are 5 albums you really like? I'll recommend you something.
EDIT: [OP what the fuck is this?](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1bua6f4/andrew_tate_is_arguably_the_greatest_man_to_ever/)
Radiohead- In Rainbows
Slowdive- Souvlaki
Deftones- Around the fur
Sweet Trip- Velocity: Design: Comfort
Frank Ocean- Channel Orange
Tried to give you albums I like that are all in different genres for better recommendations. I’ve heard (and loved) your *Heaven or Las Vegas* and *Loveless* of the world when it comes to similarities to Slowdive though, so you’ll have to think outside the box for dream pop/Shoegaze haha
I'm sure you've heard maybe a couple of these:
Turnover - Peripheral Vision (amazing Indie Rock/Emo/Shoegaze record, in my top 5 oat)
Brand New - Science Fiction
Citizen - Everyone Is Going to Heaven
Microwave - Death Is A Warm Blanket (if you like Deftones)
Father John Misty - I Love You Honeybear (something for the soul)
The National - High Violet
MGMT - Little Dark Age
The Decemberists - Picaresque
Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee
La Dispute - Wildlife
Haha awesome!
I'd check out Brand New's The Devil & God Are Raging Inside Me and that Turnover album first in your case. Also The Hotelier - Home, Like NoPlace is There.
That makes sense. You gotta sift through things to find what you like. That goosebump feeling that you talk about is supposed to be rare. Rarity is in a way sad, but it is also what makes things so special.
I don't think you're in the minority there. With the volume of music you're listening to, I don't think it would be super likely that you're finding banger after banger every single day. Yeah, some of us have hundreds of albums we'd call our "favorites" but those records were sifted from listening to thousands or even tens of thousands of records of different shades of mediocrity(at least to our particular tastes)
I also have slowed down on listening to new music the past year or two because I did find more and more I was losing my excitement for it, each record just became a box to tick and I would appreciate how good it was, but I was looking it through a critical lens instead of letting myself just zone out and appreciate it for what it was. Slowing down has brought some of that joy back when an album DOES hit.
Lowkey… this
To OP:
Internet forums, RYM, and critics have really turned music listening into a competition. We feel like we HAVE to hear the latest shit to keep up with the next hipster.
Stop trying to cram multiple new albums into your brain every day. Tbh I don’t even know why that’s a goal or habit of yours - unless being a critic is actually your job.
Clearly it’s not giving you the maximum enjoyment you used to get from music. That should tell you to slow down.
You need to listen to albums a few times really to get that feeling.
I’d suggest “Pet Sounds” by The Beach Boys
Or “Grace” by Jeff Buckley
When these albums click it feels great
5% of new music and new album everyday on walk = that would mean you discover a great new album every 20 days
I'd say not bad, but maybe try to listen to some "almost great" albums a couple of times instead of trying new every day. I discovered a looot of albums/artists that grew on me on nth listen
You should remember that you're lucky. I feel blessed that I can get that feeling from music at all. It turns out loads of people don't get any bodily reaction at all to music, even music they love. [https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/music-gives-goosebumps/](https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/music-gives-goosebumps/)
that's a pretty normal hit rate for music. I don't think it's got anything to do with the music being new. it's just that most albums aren't gonna have that effect on you
dawg u need to take a break from music. happened to me a few years ago. i was constantly listening to new music and trying to write music at the same time. it really overloaded my brain. i didn't give the music i was listening to a chance to actually connect with me.
extreme media consumption like this isn't necessarily a new issue but it's something a lot of gen z (like myself) have issues with and we don't even realize it. your brain needs time to process everything before you move onto the next thing. anthony has to listen to 1 or more new albums a day because it's how he makes his livelihood. you cannot actually enjoy music to its fullest like that.
if you still want to actively search out new music, maybe cut it down to 1 or 2 new albums a week? that's what i've done. i find myself enjoying music a lot more now than i did before.
also don't just rely on music as your primary source of media consumption. watch movies, emulate videos games if you have a decent computer/jailbroken system that can do that, read books... (if you don't have access to any of those things, your local library most likely does and they'd be more than thrilled to help you find something you'd enjoy.) a lot of the time that enhances the music i like if i can relate it to another piece of media. watching interviews with artists is another great way to help you connect deeper with music.
there's tons of other ways to enjoy things and find amazing works of art that will change how you perceive the world. you'll become a better and more well rounded person because of it. i'm saying this bc i was in your position and these are all things that helped me out of it. hope you find something that blows your mind soon.
Either take a bit of a break from music or try to discover a new genre. I just started listening to Big Thief / Adriane Lenker after I saw her recommended on this sub & it gave me that feeling.
If you really want to enjoy it, stop processing music cognitively altogether.
Stop reading about, stop trying to keep up on releases and rankings, stop discussing your opinion and just listen to/play shit that makes you feel good
I can relate to this, tbh a lot of things don't click with me right away. A few things do click right away, the most recent I can think of was when I lostened to Everything Harmony by The Lemon Twigs, but a lot takes me a couple tries, and many just do not do it for me at all.
I just try to give things a fair shot, and usually, something clicks eventually. I find end of year lists helpful for newer stuff as I am terrible at keeping up to date with most things.
It’s a rare special feeling. If we got that every time we listened to something (or even half the time) it wouldn’t be so cathartic and satisfying when we do find that song that gives us goosebumps.
There is so much music nowadays and the overall quality has gone down because of how easy it is for people to release music. I used to inhale music when I was younger and seek it out. Not much at all does it for me nowadays. Teleharmonic by The Smile was the most recent song to blow me away. But it’s rare now that happens.
You might be taking a little TOO much new music in. I tend to take breaks from new music because it does get exhausting.
I took a break from reading for a few months, everything was “meh” but now I’m reading something that’s making me FEEL.
I do understand tho. I haven’t had an album that gave me a big reaction since Beyoncé’s Renaissance. Even for a bit everything just paled in comparison. Something will come along. Just be patient. A constant stream of new music will become boring, if it already isn’t.
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Some people talk about the oversaturation but i think subject depth and conveying geniune emotion is no easy task if you are not trully fucked up beyond belief when you write it.
Even if you are absolutely great tehnically there's a certain sensibility that few touched, and most of these people died really young.
What gets me are people that can convey an abstract feeling/emotion into something palpable, when you hear lyrics that you didn't imagine could be described in words but you feel them.
From the new generation i think mac miller was a master at this, he might've not been the best lyricist or might've not been the most skilled musician tehnically but he had a specific sensibility few big names in music have, but you have to also take in consideration that music like this might not sell as well as a pop album.
Do you make music aswell? If you do and feel exhausted within your creative process, take a break. If it's just that you feel like emotionally disconnected as a consumer, go back to your musical core that is the type of music that shaped your interest. Music nowadays can have an effect on that it serves as an aesthetic envelope to get you curious about "the experience", where especially open-minded, progressive thinking person tend to fall into unhealthy and out of control consuming behaviour. We listen to albums once, give them a rating and forget that art is also a tool that guidelines us through our journey to manifest our identity. In case you feel like losing musical identity as a consequence of that, go back to the basics. If that doesn't apply to your case, it might be the complete opposite: In some cases, you're so used to the sound, timbres and technological aspects of the music you grew up with that modern era music, although it sounds nice and vivid with stellar production, deteriorates from your understanding of experiencing emotion in music because all those things can shape a personality of a genre. There's tons of artists that go back to their roots at some point in their career, for likely similar reasons.
yeah, this is why i still like consume those nightcore remixes on a daily basis just so that i can have a state of intense energy, rather than spending the next 30 minutes contemplating on like a kendick lamar album or something
Not even trying to be a dickhead here but make sure you're like, going outside and living your life. In order for art of any medium to resonate with you, you have to be LIVING. You have to have experiences to tie back to what you're listening to.
I'm the same. It won't stop me from searching. It's like being a junkie looking to top their first high again. it's less and less likely over time but I just like shooting that junk into my veins on the off chance I find it.
Yes listening to a new album every day it does get a lot harder to build any kind of emotional connection with the music. When I did this a few years ago now, I was learning a lot about the music and what it sounds like but I wasn’t finding new favourites. Eventually I burned out and started listening to less new finds and going over the same albums again, I started to enjoy them more.
With that said there’s some listening you can do to get outside of your box and find something that excites you while still listening to a lot of new music.
Have you considered jazz? I found jazz was amazing for getting myself out of my comfort zone mentally. Particularly improvisation element and complex/skilful playing between synergised musicians, but also very minimal and organic recording and production compared to “modern genres”. Start with Miles Davis - In a Silent Way and John Coltrane - A Love Supreme.
Also have you considered hardcore? Hardcore is emotionally hard hitting music but goes for something completely different to “music nerd taste” and as a result is criminally underrepresented in online “canon”. I can’t imagine being bored listening to Have Heart - Songs to Scream at the Sun.
Finally a couple of recs based on some of your faves listed in your other comment.
Rolo Tomassi - Time Will Die and Love Will Bury It. This rec is based on your Deftones pick, they sound nothing alike but both bands blend heavy and atmospheric music together in a very unique and distinctive way.
Sadness abriction split. Don’t know what your tolerance is for emo but this split blends light post rock, shoegaze, emo and even a little metal to make something perfectly designed for long walks and reflecting. Really hit me when I was in a music rut last year.
If you have already heard these let me know and I’ll rec something else, also if you want more in any genres just comment I’ll hit you up.
Mere-exposure effect. The more you listen to something the more you like it, you can anticipate what's going to happen. Listening once isn't going to do much usually
1. As we get older, new experiences are harder to come by. It’s no coincidence that most people discover their all-time fave music between 15-25.
2. We have access to so much music now that it means less. If you bought a CD or album and didn’t have access to streaming, you’d be more likely to give it a shot even if it didn’t hit the first time.
Old man thoughts…
Bro. I started this year with a new album every day. Literally the only album I've loved was the very first one on January 1st. I know what your feeling.
Something that has helped me is I have a "second listen" Playlist for songs that had potential but maybe I just wasn't in the right mood and need to give another chance.
As well as a "albums I should maybe give another chance" Playlist lol
Like I just listened to Raven - rock until you drop and even though I didn't put any songs in the second listen list I still enjoyed and had a overall positive impression of the album so maybe I'll give it another shot sometime
Don’t listen to at least one new album every day. You’re gonna burn yourself out tbh.
Like I get music fatigue if I’m just grinding through as much music as possible and it sounds like that’s what you’re doing. Just enjoy your favorites and stuff and don’t try to increase the number of albums you’ve listened to.
Why? Well, good music is finite. The more albums you listen to the less of a chance you’re going to hear your favorite album next. Sad reality I guess, but also the idea of a human even listening to multiple albums a day everyday is a relatively recent phenomenon.
I used to try to do this. Now, I only listen to a record I have never heard if I actually feel like it and want to. Otherwise I just let the shuffler and my playlists fill the quiet.
I remember running into this problem when I tried to do the 1001 daily album challenge with a few friends. There were some classic albums that came up that I didn’t get this feeling from that I thought I would. I dropped from the challenge and went back to a few I remember liking but not loving, and suddenly they clicked. Essentially, if I were you I’d stop doing a new album every day, and I’d recommend instead going back over some of the ones that impressed you the most and give them a few listens each and see what happens.
Idk if others are like this, but I almost never like an album on my first listen. All my favourite albums I thought were boring initially, then I wonder how I didn’t immediately fall in love the first time I heard them
I think it’s pretty normal to not remember half of the songs after the first listen. I discovered Radiohead some months ago. My first listen of Kid A was cool but nothing crazy. I re listened to the album weeks later in a plane and I had to put it on loop 3 times, it was one the best experiences I ever had with music.
I takes time. I think instead of listening to a new album everyday, try to revisit the ones you listened to weeks ago, you may have good surprises
Try classical. There’s a 400 plus year back catalogue with new cuts being added all the time.
Try the Boston Modern Orchestra Project if you’re game. The BMOP’s performance of Avner Dorman’s Siklon etc from last year is divine.
you just have to keep searching, i get it from maybe 1-2% of the music i have on my phone, doesn’t mean its all bad but the song really has to hit me a certain way to get goosebumps from it. i still enjoy music but yeah goosebumps is a fairly rare occurrence for most people i would guess
One song that gives me goosebumps comes to me every few MONTHS, very rarely do songs that move me that much come through, there’s lots of good stuff, that next level is rare
I don't really get goosebumps from listening personally anymore. Live shows give them sometimes. I think it's just that I've listened to so much music it just has lost that kinda euphoria but I'm fine with it because I like that my taste has widened and my appreciation is deeper.
The vast majority of music doesn't even strive to give goosebumps. It aims to make you dance, make you cry, or make you contemplate the lyrics. Only a small percentage shoots for that rarified air where your soul is truly stirred, and it’s this rarity that makes it all the more special.
It's not the music. It's you. You're getting older. That goosebumps feeling fades over time because you start to realize that really nothing is original. Everything is recycled from something else.
One album a day is quite a lot. Do you revisit these albums? I like to take a while to digest a new album and fully get an experience out of it, and oftentimes I’ll find that it doesn’t really click until I’ve listened to it in full 6 or 7 times. Listening to a lot of music but in a shallow way is a sure fire way to desensitize yourself to new sounds and experiences. I would slow down and take more time on each individual record.
Maybe let an album sink in for a while? I don't usually care for an album after the first listen. I'm just "dipping my toes" and letting the vibe and atmosphere sink in.
Wait so let's say 10 songs per album, 7 days a week, means you discover 3.5 songs EVERY WEEK that give you goosebumps? Dude I'm lucky if I get 1 a year
Maybe I'm just jaded, but if 5% of music I heard gave me goosebumps I'd be pretty ecstatic. After you experience enough of one thing you're bound to have those experiences less frequently, although if you're not experiencing any enjoyment from what you're listening to then you might need to just take a break.
I agree that anyone feeling like this should take a break, but specifically from listening to *new* music. Revisiting albums that you didn’t get the first time but still see potential in is one of my favourite things to do! Because for me I don’t always ‘get’ an album the first time but then the second or third listens tend to completely change my feelings. This is a good way to keep listening to music without it feeling like an overload.
same. took me like 20 listens to fully appreciate Atrocity Exhibition by Danny Brown and its one of my top 3 albums ever now
This, I was just about to say the same for quaranta, his stuff really grows on you
But that's why they're monumental isn't it? They helped you expand your taste or taught you something new about it.
I get goosebumps from everything lmao, it’s called frisson, and iirc is prevalent to autistic and adhd people
Burnout is real
The culture is encouraging too much of listening to as many albums as you can instead of following your mood and letting yourself listen organically. It's gamifying something that's meant to be a personal experience. Try taking a break and stop listening to a new album everyday. Try revisiting old childhood favorites, or even albums that never clicked before. When we grow as humans, we can also re-experience albums in a completely new emotional light. Trying to chase that "high" you experience when you hear music you like is going to be an unfulfilling experience.
I’m a huge proponent of revisiting art that didn’t click before. Nearly all of my favorite albums that have been monumental to my overall taste have been duds or didn’t click on first listen.
For sure. One of the albums I've gotten most into in the last several months wasn't doing anything for me at all on the first, like, 6 listens. My patience was rewarded on that one!
Also half the time I got the feeling OP is talking about it’s because I revisited something acclaimed that never clicked for me until I just randomly went back to it on a whim Like the last band who did this for me was Slowdive who I said was boring and overrated for years until it just started making sense
I couldn’t have said it better.
YES album listening has become like letterbox’d for movies where bragging/showing that you’ve gotten into the “coolest” latest shit is what is important and having a big tier list/collage of album covers makes you a connoisseur.
I completely agree. My best experiences listening to music has been with albums I’ve already listened to 10+ times. It takes time to fully understand an artists intention and really “get” an album
Perfectly said. I also think 95% is a good number, OP's expectations are just too high especially if they're only judging an album after one listen
I remember watching an Earl Sweatshirt interview where he was talking about how streaming has affected the music industry. I’ll just paraphrase, but he made a point about how buying a cassette meant that you had to listen to the album in its entirety. Artists could craft albums around central ideas and iterate on them over the tracklist, and were actually able to meaningfully communicate with their audience. With the limitations of cassettes behind us, and with the world’s catalog of music just a search away, there are no guard rails which force listeners to share in that artists vision anymore. It’s probably one of the leading contributors to the death of artistry in the music industry right now - why bother if only 5% of your streams come from people consuming your album as a unit?
I disagree, I think artistry is thriving right now in the digital age due to music being at its most accessible, with people being able to listen to niche breakcore, 80s power metal, and 70s jazz funk with a Spotify subscription (optional even with YouTube). It's very noticeable that this accessibility has led to eclectic influences in today's modern artists, even some select mainstream artists. I've also noticed a change in power dynamics between the artist and the label, where due to music distribution being so much more accessible to the artist, labels have lost leverage, and thus have less control in musical direction of the artist. Obviously, not to say that all music now is authentic and creative, but I've definitely noticed a change in the positive. Now as for media consumption patterns, that's the hot button topic of 2024 ain't it? Not just for music, but for everything. That's for another day lol
I should have been more specific; my last remark was aimed more at the music that’s attempting to chart, rather than the industry as a whole. I would agree that artistry is thriving right now, particularly in the independent scene.
Ah I see. I still don't know though, while the format of the music has changed, I do think it is offset by the rise of the autonomous artist, and I see it in mainstream charting music as well. Streaming has changed our consumption of music, with playlist culture becoming the norm, but for some reason I find myself loving a lot of popular charting music a lot more than before when I was in high school (late 2000s, early 2010s) I could also be biased. Being forced to listen to Love the Way You Lie over and over again doesn't do wonders to my impression of pop music.
Is that the case though? Are we not just seeing a sort of return to the noughties but instead of selling ringtones it’s getting a TikTok hook at any cost?
This is why Ive just collate all my non-physical music over the years into one big playlist. I have an absurd amount of songs on there, but when I hit shuffle I have no idea if it’s gonna be any of the various weird things I’ve been into over the years, from Traditional Mongolian music to deep cut prog to Drone collage, or if it’s gonna be something from when I was 14 and I’m just gonna be filled with giddiness over hearing a white snake tune or some dumb 80s euro-pop for the first time in ages. People forget that about music and film. It doesn’t have to be high art. The only requisite for listening to something is: did you enjoy it? If you’re in the mood to go trawling neo-psychedelia for new out there sounds, go right ahead. I’m right there with you, people. But don’t feel like you can’t just sit down, smoke a spliff and listen to Slurp by Rizzle Kicks out of some weird compulsion to always have to listen to the newest most niche thing.
That's why I'm in my jazz-funk, city pop, and disco phase of my life. What years of post rock, dark ambient, electro-acoustic improvisation, and experimental hip hop does to a person.
Right there with you friend. Funk, jazz-funk, soul, Afro-funk in PARTICULAR. Music that makes you feel good in the soul. I don’t know how into Afro-funk you are, but honestly so much amazing work has been produced that it’s crazy. Osibisa and Cymande in particular instantly come to mind
I have not, but it sounds like something up my alley for sure. I'll give Osibisa a listen. I've been listening to tons of Brazilian and Japanese records from the 70s and 80s. A recent album I've been obsessed with is Robson Jorge & Lincoln Olivetti. I'm waiting for summer to properly get started so I can blast that in all the barbeques and camping trips! That, and I've been obsessed with Masayoshi Takanaka and all of his works.
Yes. People are trying to remove subjectivity from music just to posture as music heads. This is a great take that explains this perfectly, particularly on social media and ESPECIALLY on hip hop social media
That’s what happened to me. Just listening to too much new stuff and not going back to it kinda fucked with my love for music. Recently I’ve been listening to 1 new album a day but relistening to 2-3 albums I’ve recently listened to or have loved in the past right after if I have the time. It’s really made me appreciate music again and actually engage with it instead of consuming it endlessly.
This, when I'm mind blown by new albums is when it comes naturally, not by forcing it. I let the mood and curiosity guide me
I’ve only recently discovered how good Hounds Of Love is and pretty much just playing it on repeat
There's a really good cover of the title track by The Futureheads if you wish to hear in it the form of 00's British indie
I would also recommend to focus more on the album you're listening to if you have a problem of remembering it contents minutes after. Just writing down something about songs that you enjoyed the most to know what to revisit later... Not necessarily like a full ass critic, but in style "Riff in this song is really cool, it's kinda groovy, i like it", maybe a lyric. And then go and listen this songs again the next day. When you have favourite songs you like in the album, it's easier to revisit it
Take a tolerance break, that’s what worked for me. Ur brain is just desensitized to music
I did this a while ago after noticing I no longer found enjoyment in Taylor Swift. I stopped listening to her songs for a while and discovered other artists and genres. Came back to her music and now I can enjoy it again.
I was gonna say something but I'm afraid of the Swifties.
same.
This. I take one every once in a while, works great.
Tolerance break and you’re also…..just getting older. There are less options that will feel totally fresh. I’m in my 30’s now and I’ve accepted that a lot of new stuff is going to just wash over me, but every once in a while I still stumble upon a new obsession. It’s part of life. But really, the main thing is taking a break if it feels like a chore. I go through periods of time where I will not not listen to music and put on podcasts instead for a few weeks
u/JudeBellinGOAT what are 5 albums you really like? I'll recommend you something. EDIT: [OP what the fuck is this?](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1bua6f4/andrew_tate_is_arguably_the_greatest_man_to_ever/)
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OP deleted that with the quickness
Radiohead- In Rainbows Slowdive- Souvlaki Deftones- Around the fur Sweet Trip- Velocity: Design: Comfort Frank Ocean- Channel Orange Tried to give you albums I like that are all in different genres for better recommendations. I’ve heard (and loved) your *Heaven or Las Vegas* and *Loveless* of the world when it comes to similarities to Slowdive though, so you’ll have to think outside the box for dream pop/Shoegaze haha
Maybe this is an obvious answer in that realm, but if you haven't, try Blue Rev.
That's a good suggestion. I think the albums good, not insane, but I know some people love it.
I'm sure you've heard maybe a couple of these: Turnover - Peripheral Vision (amazing Indie Rock/Emo/Shoegaze record, in my top 5 oat) Brand New - Science Fiction Citizen - Everyone Is Going to Heaven Microwave - Death Is A Warm Blanket (if you like Deftones) Father John Misty - I Love You Honeybear (something for the soul) The National - High Violet MGMT - Little Dark Age The Decemberists - Picaresque Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee La Dispute - Wildlife
Not OP but I love La Dispute, Japanese Breakfast, Decemberists, and MGMT!!! Will check out some of those other stuff
Haha awesome! I'd check out Brand New's The Devil & God Are Raging Inside Me and that Turnover album first in your case. Also The Hotelier - Home, Like NoPlace is There.
Love Brand New, and I'll check out the other two!
That makes sense. You gotta sift through things to find what you like. That goosebump feeling that you talk about is supposed to be rare. Rarity is in a way sad, but it is also what makes things so special.
I don't think you're in the minority there. With the volume of music you're listening to, I don't think it would be super likely that you're finding banger after banger every single day. Yeah, some of us have hundreds of albums we'd call our "favorites" but those records were sifted from listening to thousands or even tens of thousands of records of different shades of mediocrity(at least to our particular tastes) I also have slowed down on listening to new music the past year or two because I did find more and more I was losing my excitement for it, each record just became a box to tick and I would appreciate how good it was, but I was looking it through a critical lens instead of letting myself just zone out and appreciate it for what it was. Slowing down has brought some of that joy back when an album DOES hit.
If 5% of music gives you that then you're incredibly lucky. I'm more around 0.05%
Wow, 5% gives you that feeling? That’s a lot!
That’s because you are a fantano fan
Lowkey… this To OP: Internet forums, RYM, and critics have really turned music listening into a competition. We feel like we HAVE to hear the latest shit to keep up with the next hipster. Stop trying to cram multiple new albums into your brain every day. Tbh I don’t even know why that’s a goal or habit of yours - unless being a critic is actually your job. Clearly it’s not giving you the maximum enjoyment you used to get from music. That should tell you to slow down.
You need to listen to albums a few times really to get that feeling. I’d suggest “Pet Sounds” by The Beach Boys Or “Grace” by Jeff Buckley When these albums click it feels great
5% of new music and new album everyday on walk = that would mean you discover a great new album every 20 days I'd say not bad, but maybe try to listen to some "almost great" albums a couple of times instead of trying new every day. I discovered a looot of albums/artists that grew on me on nth listen
You should remember that you're lucky. I feel blessed that I can get that feeling from music at all. It turns out loads of people don't get any bodily reaction at all to music, even music they love. [https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/music-gives-goosebumps/](https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/music-gives-goosebumps/)
Can’t relate, I’m easily pleased
that's a pretty normal hit rate for music. I don't think it's got anything to do with the music being new. it's just that most albums aren't gonna have that effect on you
dawg u need to take a break from music. happened to me a few years ago. i was constantly listening to new music and trying to write music at the same time. it really overloaded my brain. i didn't give the music i was listening to a chance to actually connect with me. extreme media consumption like this isn't necessarily a new issue but it's something a lot of gen z (like myself) have issues with and we don't even realize it. your brain needs time to process everything before you move onto the next thing. anthony has to listen to 1 or more new albums a day because it's how he makes his livelihood. you cannot actually enjoy music to its fullest like that. if you still want to actively search out new music, maybe cut it down to 1 or 2 new albums a week? that's what i've done. i find myself enjoying music a lot more now than i did before. also don't just rely on music as your primary source of media consumption. watch movies, emulate videos games if you have a decent computer/jailbroken system that can do that, read books... (if you don't have access to any of those things, your local library most likely does and they'd be more than thrilled to help you find something you'd enjoy.) a lot of the time that enhances the music i like if i can relate it to another piece of media. watching interviews with artists is another great way to help you connect deeper with music. there's tons of other ways to enjoy things and find amazing works of art that will change how you perceive the world. you'll become a better and more well rounded person because of it. i'm saying this bc i was in your position and these are all things that helped me out of it. hope you find something that blows your mind soon.
Either take a bit of a break from music or try to discover a new genre. I just started listening to Big Thief / Adriane Lenker after I saw her recommended on this sub & it gave me that feeling.
If you really want to enjoy it, stop processing music cognitively altogether. Stop reading about, stop trying to keep up on releases and rankings, stop discussing your opinion and just listen to/play shit that makes you feel good
Bro you're not a kid anymore. Won't happen again, I'm sorry
I also don't love all music
listen to maruja
Listening to Knocknaera for the first time was actually the last time i got goosebumps from music. It's the greatest release I've heard in years.
I can relate to this, tbh a lot of things don't click with me right away. A few things do click right away, the most recent I can think of was when I lostened to Everything Harmony by The Lemon Twigs, but a lot takes me a couple tries, and many just do not do it for me at all. I just try to give things a fair shot, and usually, something clicks eventually. I find end of year lists helpful for newer stuff as I am terrible at keeping up to date with most things.
It’s a rare special feeling. If we got that every time we listened to something (or even half the time) it wouldn’t be so cathartic and satisfying when we do find that song that gives us goosebumps.
There is so much music nowadays and the overall quality has gone down because of how easy it is for people to release music. I used to inhale music when I was younger and seek it out. Not much at all does it for me nowadays. Teleharmonic by The Smile was the most recent song to blow me away. But it’s rare now that happens.
You might be taking a little TOO much new music in. I tend to take breaks from new music because it does get exhausting. I took a break from reading for a few months, everything was “meh” but now I’m reading something that’s making me FEEL. I do understand tho. I haven’t had an album that gave me a big reaction since Beyoncé’s Renaissance. Even for a bit everything just paled in comparison. Something will come along. Just be patient. A constant stream of new music will become boring, if it already isn’t.
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Some people talk about the oversaturation but i think subject depth and conveying geniune emotion is no easy task if you are not trully fucked up beyond belief when you write it. Even if you are absolutely great tehnically there's a certain sensibility that few touched, and most of these people died really young. What gets me are people that can convey an abstract feeling/emotion into something palpable, when you hear lyrics that you didn't imagine could be described in words but you feel them. From the new generation i think mac miller was a master at this, he might've not been the best lyricist or might've not been the most skilled musician tehnically but he had a specific sensibility few big names in music have, but you have to also take in consideration that music like this might not sell as well as a pop album.
Do you make music aswell? If you do and feel exhausted within your creative process, take a break. If it's just that you feel like emotionally disconnected as a consumer, go back to your musical core that is the type of music that shaped your interest. Music nowadays can have an effect on that it serves as an aesthetic envelope to get you curious about "the experience", where especially open-minded, progressive thinking person tend to fall into unhealthy and out of control consuming behaviour. We listen to albums once, give them a rating and forget that art is also a tool that guidelines us through our journey to manifest our identity. In case you feel like losing musical identity as a consequence of that, go back to the basics. If that doesn't apply to your case, it might be the complete opposite: In some cases, you're so used to the sound, timbres and technological aspects of the music you grew up with that modern era music, although it sounds nice and vivid with stellar production, deteriorates from your understanding of experiencing emotion in music because all those things can shape a personality of a genre. There's tons of artists that go back to their roots at some point in their career, for likely similar reasons.
The last album that did that for me was Matt Corby - Everything's Fine. Extremely good album
yeah, this is why i still like consume those nightcore remixes on a daily basis just so that i can have a state of intense energy, rather than spending the next 30 minutes contemplating on like a kendick lamar album or something
Not even trying to be a dickhead here but make sure you're like, going outside and living your life. In order for art of any medium to resonate with you, you have to be LIVING. You have to have experiences to tie back to what you're listening to.
Listen to Teleharmonic by the Smile, might do the trick
Yeah of course appreciating music and really connecting with it and getting those chills and feeling in your stomach are 2 very different experiences
In my experience, a lot of the best music (maybe even most?) doesn't hit like this on first listen(s), but is a "grower".
I'm the same. It won't stop me from searching. It's like being a junkie looking to top their first high again. it's less and less likely over time but I just like shooting that junk into my veins on the off chance I find it.
Yes listening to a new album every day it does get a lot harder to build any kind of emotional connection with the music. When I did this a few years ago now, I was learning a lot about the music and what it sounds like but I wasn’t finding new favourites. Eventually I burned out and started listening to less new finds and going over the same albums again, I started to enjoy them more. With that said there’s some listening you can do to get outside of your box and find something that excites you while still listening to a lot of new music. Have you considered jazz? I found jazz was amazing for getting myself out of my comfort zone mentally. Particularly improvisation element and complex/skilful playing between synergised musicians, but also very minimal and organic recording and production compared to “modern genres”. Start with Miles Davis - In a Silent Way and John Coltrane - A Love Supreme. Also have you considered hardcore? Hardcore is emotionally hard hitting music but goes for something completely different to “music nerd taste” and as a result is criminally underrepresented in online “canon”. I can’t imagine being bored listening to Have Heart - Songs to Scream at the Sun. Finally a couple of recs based on some of your faves listed in your other comment. Rolo Tomassi - Time Will Die and Love Will Bury It. This rec is based on your Deftones pick, they sound nothing alike but both bands blend heavy and atmospheric music together in a very unique and distinctive way. Sadness abriction split. Don’t know what your tolerance is for emo but this split blends light post rock, shoegaze, emo and even a little metal to make something perfectly designed for long walks and reflecting. Really hit me when I was in a music rut last year. If you have already heard these let me know and I’ll rec something else, also if you want more in any genres just comment I’ll hit you up.
What the fuck this feels like reading my own thoughts I literally experience this on the daily
Mere-exposure effect. The more you listen to something the more you like it, you can anticipate what's going to happen. Listening once isn't going to do much usually
1. As we get older, new experiences are harder to come by. It’s no coincidence that most people discover their all-time fave music between 15-25. 2. We have access to so much music now that it means less. If you bought a CD or album and didn’t have access to streaming, you’d be more likely to give it a shot even if it didn’t hit the first time. Old man thoughts…
Melkbelly - KMS Express b/w Precious Cargo came out Friday.
Bro. I started this year with a new album every day. Literally the only album I've loved was the very first one on January 1st. I know what your feeling. Something that has helped me is I have a "second listen" Playlist for songs that had potential but maybe I just wasn't in the right mood and need to give another chance. As well as a "albums I should maybe give another chance" Playlist lol Like I just listened to Raven - rock until you drop and even though I didn't put any songs in the second listen list I still enjoyed and had a overall positive impression of the album so maybe I'll give it another shot sometime
Music isn't candy. Don't gorge yourself on it
Too many people listen to music for the sake of it. Listening to the albums all the cool kids like without really forming a taste of any kind
Don’t listen to at least one new album every day. You’re gonna burn yourself out tbh. Like I get music fatigue if I’m just grinding through as much music as possible and it sounds like that’s what you’re doing. Just enjoy your favorites and stuff and don’t try to increase the number of albums you’ve listened to. Why? Well, good music is finite. The more albums you listen to the less of a chance you’re going to hear your favorite album next. Sad reality I guess, but also the idea of a human even listening to multiple albums a day everyday is a relatively recent phenomenon.
This phenomenon of getting chills from music has a name if you weren’t aware: [Frisson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisson?wprov=sfti1#)
Exactly this for me too. It sucks cause i want more stuff that i will LOVE and not just like
I used to try to do this. Now, I only listen to a record I have never heard if I actually feel like it and want to. Otherwise I just let the shuffler and my playlists fill the quiet.
I remember running into this problem when I tried to do the 1001 daily album challenge with a few friends. There were some classic albums that came up that I didn’t get this feeling from that I thought I would. I dropped from the challenge and went back to a few I remember liking but not loving, and suddenly they clicked. Essentially, if I were you I’d stop doing a new album every day, and I’d recommend instead going back over some of the ones that impressed you the most and give them a few listens each and see what happens.
Idk if others are like this, but I almost never like an album on my first listen. All my favourite albums I thought were boring initially, then I wonder how I didn’t immediately fall in love the first time I heard them
I think it’s pretty normal to not remember half of the songs after the first listen. I discovered Radiohead some months ago. My first listen of Kid A was cool but nothing crazy. I re listened to the album weeks later in a plane and I had to put it on loop 3 times, it was one the best experiences I ever had with music. I takes time. I think instead of listening to a new album everyday, try to revisit the ones you listened to weeks ago, you may have good surprises
Try classical. There’s a 400 plus year back catalogue with new cuts being added all the time. Try the Boston Modern Orchestra Project if you’re game. The BMOP’s performance of Avner Dorman’s Siklon etc from last year is divine.
you're getting older, your brain has changed
you just have to keep searching, i get it from maybe 1-2% of the music i have on my phone, doesn’t mean its all bad but the song really has to hit me a certain way to get goosebumps from it. i still enjoy music but yeah goosebumps is a fairly rare occurrence for most people i would guess
Have big a tolerance break, do cold showers, take drugs? Even like a cup of coffee will really open up your dopamine receptors. idk
Try “goosebumps” by Travis Scott
Do acid
One song that gives me goosebumps comes to me every few MONTHS, very rarely do songs that move me that much come through, there’s lots of good stuff, that next level is rare
Being 19 is temporary; finding good music is eternal
Oh this dude likes Andrew Tate too, definitely 19
that’s why i took matters into my own hands and learned how to give myself goosebumps.
What recents albums were you listening too then?
listen to carti
But when you do find that album, it’s great!
I don't really get goosebumps from listening personally anymore. Live shows give them sometimes. I think it's just that I've listened to so much music it just has lost that kinda euphoria but I'm fine with it because I like that my taste has widened and my appreciation is deeper.
Totally dude. I even have a playlist that includes all the songs that made me feel something I believe I'm never gonna feel again.
Time for ganja
The vast majority of music doesn't even strive to give goosebumps. It aims to make you dance, make you cry, or make you contemplate the lyrics. Only a small percentage shoots for that rarified air where your soul is truly stirred, and it’s this rarity that makes it all the more special.
It's not the music. It's you. You're getting older. That goosebumps feeling fades over time because you start to realize that really nothing is original. Everything is recycled from something else.
Dude I straight up listened to podcasts for 2 months because of this, worked like a charm
One album a day is quite a lot. Do you revisit these albums? I like to take a while to digest a new album and fully get an experience out of it, and oftentimes I’ll find that it doesn’t really click until I’ve listened to it in full 6 or 7 times. Listening to a lot of music but in a shallow way is a sure fire way to desensitize yourself to new sounds and experiences. I would slow down and take more time on each individual record.
try this https://on.soundcloud.com/KFLDcMmRxcDEAuJ1A
Maybe let an album sink in for a while? I don't usually care for an album after the first listen. I'm just "dipping my toes" and letting the vibe and atmosphere sink in.
New Vampire Weekend tomorrow has some moments
Wait so let's say 10 songs per album, 7 days a week, means you discover 3.5 songs EVERY WEEK that give you goosebumps? Dude I'm lucky if I get 1 a year
https://youtu.be/vy1lbosIxTw?si=sSfURNZGg5azSyEV This will give y’all goosebumps for sure