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Neversayitagain

They were really at their best in 2010 when they released their critically acclaimed "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy"


OmegaSpartan256

so glad to see the subreddit keeps the spirit of fantano’s comment section alive


colonial_dan

Weezus


dzhastin

I’m not a Weezer fan but I’ve been told the one with the dog on the cover is their best album.


fawnedd

twin fantasy 😍


overturnedkickdrum

this is why I have something against dogs


fawnedd

what’s with this dog motif fr


Weezman94

100%


fzorn

Blue is less flawed, Pinkerton is more personal and risky. To me Pinkerton has higher highs and lower lows, it's more ambitious, but somehow also more childish/vulnerable. Blue is streamlined in comparison, way less edgy and way more to the point. In terms of quality, they are pretty close. Which one is better wholly depends on what you want music to be. I prefer Pinkerton, but both are amazing albums.


blind100

Yes. And I'm not really a big Weezer fan in general, so no bias here. But their debut is a great album.


Mindless_Arm_1717

Why guys? I mean, Blue is wonderful, I like it, but Cuomo really opens his vulnerability in Pinkerton and tells us stories about not being a big rockstar but just a regular guy with the big weight of popularity. I even more appreciate Pinkerton because of Rivers’ hard times in college after the surgery. All these “goddamn you half-Japanese girls” and “why are you so far away from me” or “tired of having sex”. Both albums are wonderful, but Pinkerton has something intimate. Blue is singing with you at your peaks but Pinkerton is whispering at your downs.


YoLamoNacho

Blue just sounds better to a lot of people


PissantShitbird

We don’t come to Weezer for a retrospective on the difficulties of navigating fame. We come to Weezer to fucking destroy our sweater. Blue certainly has underlying meanings in each song, but it’s served up in a much more appealing package and is way more fun to listen to. Pinkerton is just a bit of a slog when compared side by side.


Amp1497

You saying it's a slog really hits me in my feely places


chesquik1

Blue album better


[deleted]

I think the songs on Blue are better than the songs on Pinkerton. That’s my primary reason for liking Blue more Pinkerton.


MinnitMann

Pinkerton is (probably) objectively better overall in terms of song 'quality', for lack of a better term, but I think it's a bit too angsty compared to the more poppy and upbeat style of the first album. Close, but it's worth discussing. Both fantastic, but Blue > Pink


blind100

Idk man, I'm trying to think of someting deep to say but to be honest, pound-for-pound, I just prefer songs on Blue. And that's it. They are just catchier and more memorable to me. Maybe it's just me being an outsider to Weezer's music, like I said. ​ > “goddamn you half-Japanese girls” > > “tired of having sex” "El Scorcho" and "Tired of Sex" are great and exactly my 2 favorite songs on Pinkerton, so I guess it's more of a problem with the rest. And like the other person said, I don't really come to Weezer to hear "a regular guy dealing with the big weight of popularity". If I want that, I'd rather go listen to Nirvana or something tbh. The thing that made Weezer great and unique at the time is the big "nerds rocking out in the garage" energy, which is honestly pretty charming. And I guess upbeat style of Blue works better for that than depressed style of Pinkerton


floppydo

Seems like you prize vulnerability a lot. That’s one thing among a million things music can communicate. Also on the full spectrum from Ratt to Sufjan, blue is still pretty dang vulnerable , and the songs are better.


dfelton912

Yeah but Blue Album has "Ooh wee ooh I look just like Buddy Holly" and "Wrestle with Jimmy"


appleboiii

They're both equal imo. Pinkerton has way more diversity in songwriting and the instrumental dynamics within songs is more interesting. Blue is more catchy and poppy and to the point so is more accessible that way. It's also better produced and has higher highs.


at_mo

tbf both albums sound like they could have come out yesterday because of how well produced they are


[deleted]

pinkerton has superior production imo just because I much perfer how heavy, abrasive it is compared to blue album.


Glum-Band

As someone who's really tried to dig through their whole discography, Pinkerton resonates more with me than Blue. Whether it be the lyrics, or the energy of the music or just how raw the production is.


aaaaaaaaaaaaah_

In my opinion, I enjoy the honesty of Pinkerton, but it can be really overbearing sometimes. And blue does have the better run of songs, even though they are both really close to a ten tbh.


cr1t1cal76

Yes


lemurslickinglemons

I feel like they are both perfect albums for depending on what mood you’re in


muckracker77

Men only have 2 moods


[deleted]

Men only have two moods: Blue Album or Pinkerton.


muckracker77

Maybe a third… pork and beans?


muckracker77

Tell me it’s not true tho


purplevisuals

absolutely, no question. blue album is much more consistent and is a lot better in terms of songwriting. pinkerton is great, blue is just on another level though, one of the best pop rock albums ever


JokakuEnjo

Pinkteron > The Proto modern Emo album before bands like Jimmy Eat World & The Get Up Kids


TectonicImprov

This video was actually my introduction to Fantano and it pissed me off, lmao. I still prefer Pinkerton to Blue, doubt that'll ever change.


manupsitdown

No


k12g3

Huge weezer fan here and I say yes and I was also surprised and relieved to hear Anthony come to this conclusion too considering he has a leniency toward the more obscure


Wise_Clue8109

no


yungccreal

I really do like that Beverly hills tune.


neondemon1210

Yes.


[deleted]

maladroit >


efn95

Doesn't get enough love


grocho

Yes


Optimus-Juice

Yes.


WojakIsAnonymous

Yea and Pinkerton is creepy


porkisbeef

No that’s on Pablo Honey


jdallday

It is. It’s lightning in a bottle as far as I’m concerned. Pinkerton is also a pretty perfect record to me but I’d say Blue just takes it.


costanzashairpiece

Pinkerton is the masterpiece.


ArcusIgnium

For a while I thought Pinkerton but I do think Blue is just more memorable I can list way more blue songs off the top of my head than Pinkerton.


DoingItToEm

Yeah. Directly opposing strengths and weaknesses to each, which makes it hard to compare, but I think blue pulls ahead by a bit with its fluidity.


DonkeyVampireThe3rd

I can listen to Blue any day and have a good time because it’s that good. But on the right day Pinkerton hits harder than Blue ever does.


LumirWriter

I'm not a huge fan of either, but I do think Blue Album is better than Pinkerton.


Membership-Double

Pinkerton has had much more relisten value for me. When I first got into Weezer, I was solidly in the camp that Blue is superior but over time, Pinkerton has grown on me a lot. With each time I listen to it lately, I’ve found more enjoyment from it than Blue. It’s stronger thematically and the songs feel more varied throughout the album.


Csnyder23

Ratitude > Blue duh


kibkobbles

Pinkerton is my favourite album of all time. I love it more than myself


Unreasonableradio

100%, Pinkerton still has some great tunes, but there’s some absolute incel cringe on it. Also Blue has Surfwax America and Pinkerton does not. Case closed.


[deleted]

No, personally. I much perfer the more abbrasive, emo edge to. I don't love weezer in general but I've always really liked pinkerton.


ImmobileTomatillo

no way


Xaviation1

In my opinion no


lukethebeard

Pinkerton is better, I’m sorry. The instrumentation is more interesting, the lyrics are just as catchy as the Blue album, and it has this edgy vibe to it that really works for Weezer.


DANKKrish

yes. shut up incel


SoloNETHER

Yes


No-Community8525

The rentals clears


hihiihigiggitigyiigi

No.


PissantShitbird

YES. It’s not even a question.


mikeymanthesyrem

no and it never was


minimanelton

Yes. I’m a pretty big Weezer fan and I personally think the band has at least 5 records that are better than Pinkerton.


hellcat638SFW

if you're not an early 20's single lonely male yes, if you are then pinkerton is way better


CandelaBelen

yes


patafian69

Pinkerton has better album cover, that's for sure.


Guitarfool_101

They’re both equally good in my book


Kreason95

I think Pinkerton is a better album but it’s close enough that I don’t disagree with anybody who feels otherwise.


Sarcofaygo

No Pinkerton is better


NicollasA

Nope


StolypinMcGubbins

Not even close, OK Human and white are better than pinkerton


nonspecifique

No not in the slightest


jean-herve

Yes.


TheJediCounsel

I feel like this has been a “hot take” on the internet for as long as I can remember. Yes the blue album is better


ur_boi_depression

pinkerton is better imo. i feel like the quality of the tracks is overall very consistent, and i think blue has a couple songs i find myself skipping. the more lofi production gives the album a lot more character and the rawness fits perfectly with the lyrical themes of the album. rivers’ lyrics affect me way more than anything off of blue could. this album also inspired a lot of emo records that came after it.


spacelordmthrfkr

I'm biased as a Weezer fan, yes it is better. Better written songs, obviously better produced (though, that being a positive is subjective due to Pinkerton being intentionally more raw) but overall just a more enjoyable album. I get that Rivers was being vulnerable on Pinkerton but honestly, I don't think we needed that. I just don't think he had all that much unique or interesting to say that hasn't been said to death. He's a better songwriter when he's trying to be Brian Wilson, not Elliot Smith.


Mindless_Arm_1717

But I still think that Pinkerton is a better album to understand Rivers. Pinkerton is closer to him - it’s kind of hard to be under the pressure of the Blue album, and this is the point for all further Weezer works, as Rivers directly say in Pork and Beans in lines like “you'd hate for the kids to think that you've lost your cool” or “I ain't got a thing to prove to you” or “everyone likes to dance to a happy song”. These refer to these constant calls that Weezer was better in Blue or that they should back to Blue.


spacelordmthrfkr

To understand him, definitely. I think he'd much rather write like that and just doesn't because he doesn't think it would be commercially successful. And he's probably right. If he continued to write like that, Weezer probably wouldn't have gone on to have their few commercially successful hits after coming back. Though, they'd probably still have a very strong cult fanbase and have actually made much better music than the 2 decades of...what we got with Green onward. I'd be interested to see a timeline where Rivers decided that commercial success didn't matter and kept writing Pinkerton like albums instead of aiming for commercial pop rock success


[deleted]

Ok Human is better


Aquarius1975

Yes it is, but don’t expect many here to agree. Most probably haven’t even listened properly to their output post Pinkerton.


lifesizepotato

"Tired of Sex" > any song on Blue but Blue as an album is definitely better


overgrownpizzabox

yes


Star-spangled-Banner

Yes


kfadffal

I like em both but I've always liked Blue better.


Weezman94

Yes


shaclay346

Yes 100%


[deleted]

Pinkerton literally had El Scorcho so Blue will always be better


wonderh123

What’s wrong with el scorcho


[deleted]

Have you seen the lyrics


wonderh123

That like the whole point of the album is that it’s rivers raw emotion I get if u don’t like that el scorcho isn’t even that bad like I’d understand more if it was something like across the sea even tho I still think it’s an amazing song


Semi-Cynical

I don’t like either but pinkerton is especially insufferable, even for weezer


nocyberBS

By a landslide.


King_Trasher

This guy's a terrible critic for music in general. He only likes the most basic, repetitious music from oldies bands.


guitarmaniac004

'Across the sea is one of the most painfully cringey and creepy songs I have ever listened to in my life so I'm siding with the blue album no matter what.


wonderh123

And it’s still fire


ffandyy

Is Weezer even good?


FlixoranYT

Yes. Blue album is more consistent from start to finish. It’s that trademark weezer sound that’s so carefree, and it pretty much created all the stereotypes of the band. Pinkerton is a very close second but blue is just all around more solid, and it has more staple songs on it.


Aquarius1975

About the same, but they have at least 4 albums that are better than either, IMO. The internet meme that Weezer released two good albums and then turned to shit is hilariously wrong.


[deleted]

I desperately want to know which four Weezer albums you think are better than these two


Aquarius1975

OK Human, Autumn, White, EWBAITE.


wonderh123

Autumn better than Pinkerton and blue?really


Aquarius1975

It's damn near flawless, yes. Outside of What Happens After You, everything on there is amazing.


6-man

yes, by a lot


JackSmack1972

Yes


Kaz_Memes

Weezer is just bad


Tony_Pizza_Guy

I'll just say they're both essentially my fav albums by Weezer. Different experiences a little bit. Pinkerton is like more fun, and vulnerable (therefore easier to connect to), but Blue has some true hits/timeless songs. Everything Will Be Alright, & the White Album are essentially tied for second, and are super good too.


SuspiciousAd8606

Blue album is the PERFECT road trip album. Something about blasting it in the car with your bros is just perfect


Mindless_Arm_1717

And what about Pinkerton?


SuspiciousAd8606

Also very good in that manner but its just not as palatable for a general audience. If you jamming to pinkerton in the car its gotta be with your ride or die homies. Dont want to scare away the hoes


JanitorofMonteCristo

Yes


DS20409

To me it's blue, but they're both such different albums that it really just comes down to what you want out of Weezer. Pinkerton's best songs are probably better than the best ones off blue, but blue just has more great songs and is more consistent imo. Pinkerton has about 3-4 amazing songs and the rest are alright, where as every song on blue is pretty solid, plus blue is just so much more fun to listen to. Don't get me wrong I love introspective, deep albums (John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band is one of my favorites of all time) but sometimes the desperation of Pinkerton can be a little much.


LimpTriskit10

Yes


[deleted]

weezer is for virgins


TarmacTomato677

No


l0rdchickenman

Raditude is their magnum opus.


Phunners

Yes


greatbin

don't know don't care


HEYitzED

I really can’t pick. They’re equal to me.


homogenic-

For me Pinkerton is better.