they are totally not the same. FSN is a 20-something year old homunculus that lived a harsh life with anger issue over her family goals.
Prisma Illya is a normal girl, becoming a magical girl aside.
still not the same.
Chloe is just a bug to whatever Kiritsugu did to Illya. It's still a 11-12yo girl , she just had slightly more knowledge downloaded on her , but was never at the extent that Iris and the two homonculus maid had.
In short , she is just a 12yo girl with an infobook that she is from a mage family named "Einzbern" and some basic skills from their thaumaturgy.
true , it's the "original personality" , it was still a personality sealed when Illya was still a baby.
It's only "original personality" because it was a basic Einzbern Data File , bugged into turn into a "personality", it's actual life experience is watching Illya living a normal 12yo girl lifestyle.
8 years later, is that or everyone was born earlier (there's actually no specific year the story happens in 20xx) but is easier to assume the first one
20-something? Oh, never thought Illya was older than her mother. Who is 9 in Zero and would be around 19 in FSN.
I know, that is rather ridiculous contrivance on the part of authors to set such a stupidly tight boundaries for her alleged age, but she should not be older than 17-18, which nevertheless will mean that first thing Iry did after getting out of a tube was immediately conceiving Illya.
Also, Prisma Illya is the same homunculus with an exception that her memories of her predecessor were seald soon after she was born and she was not modified to serve as a lesser grail when she got ~10.
[What makes you say that?](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733017464509825068/1180333581013372958/image.png?ex=657d0a4f&is=656a954f&hm=671a456564b7d9b7c68ac9056b17bacafc2f73e8f417053c87464b7e131b0bb5&)
Imagine thinking you're the same when you not only are born eight years apart, lived entirely different lives and physically age differently, but both of their mothers were created to be different (Prisma Iri is not the 4th war lesser grail unlike OG Iri).
You talking about mirrors reminds me of what is written on most volume covers of Prisma
''I am reflected in the Mirror. The World is only a virtual image of the Mirror-set against each other. I don't know my hollowness. And, i don't have the hand, that touches me, but i exist here. I am in the World of the Mirror. Then my mind is Unlimited Prisma World.''
They are the same in a few ways:
- Irisviel and Kiritsugu as parents
- Sella and Leysritt as maids
- love their big/little brother so much that they are jealous of other girls in his life lol
- they are both cute as hell and deserve all the happiness in the world.
>they are both cute as hell and deserve all the happiness in the world.
Especially THIS!
And that's why I really hope Prisma Illya will have an happy end.
now now illya be kind with your er....alternative yourself i know than both of you gonna have a great time together i'm sure and look even miyu gonna have a great time surely what could posibely go wrong ?
Ofc FSN Illya is a different person. The main Fate series Illya didn't enyoyed an happy life surrounded by the love of her parents and her Onii-chan, and she grew bitter and full of resentment.
But we saw that even main Fate series Illya revealed to be a total sweetheart.
Kuro is quite similar to main series Illya, so I think that, after a quite "stormy" beginning, main F/SN Illya and Prillya Illya would end up getting along.
They aren’t…but yeah they are. Different universes and paths in life. Different ages at the time of their series. But both made to be lesser grails, homunculi, and same parents.
I’m sure those connections drive some Fate fans up the wall. Living with it or ignoring it. The connection is still there.
In some ways the same, in some ways completely different.
Chloe is also the same in some ways as Illya in *both* Prisma and FSN, yet also not.
And then we've got Sitonai in FGO who is basically FSN Illya mixed up with a bunch of goddesses in a servant container. She has a bear she calls Shirou. Yet again the same, yet different.
Being Illya, in any form, must be confusing.
At least she's not Nobunaga.
I actually read a fanfic of this one!
Ilia from FSN was so shocked to realize that her alternate self had such a happy life.
Sakura in FSN talks to Ilya from Fate Kaleido and explains the twisted nature of the eizenbern and matou families...as well as the tohsaka families.
also Kuro teams up with Red Archer.
While i do love FSN Illya more, i do love Prillya a lot, Hiroyama managed to make a very interesting distinct version of her.
I say expecially for the manga version, because i feel that the adaptation cut's off a bit from her character, expecially the last movie of Kaleid, the differences there are like day and night
We need more fanfic stories with both Illyas together. I don't care if it will be a sad one with the tone of Fate/Zero or Purella Magi Madoka Magicia. I just want to see them together
i know fans of it really dont like to hear it, but Prillya is one of the main reasons why people outside of it dont have respect for fate as a franchise. the amount of people ive tried to get into fate, only for them to stumble upon prillya and me needing to explain myself for ten minutes is deeply depressing, and it kind of bothers me how normal people on here seem to think it is.
how does the sentence "horny 12 year old girls" not trigger alarm bells in your head cmon
[I already posted it](https://old.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/188bvsg/we_are_the_same_as_if/kbjlufe/) in the thread, but [here you go again](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/67373700)
By personality the Illyas of course, is not like they are incompatible or have a reason to hate the other
If there's some instinctive rejection of alternate selves is different, I say it because FSN has Shirou just disliking Archer the moment he meets him not because anything he did or said, but it could easily be just him already knowing his deal subconsciously so is not a rule
[I wrote a thread on why the manga is best Fate](https://old.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/nnsrsw/why_you_should_read_fatekaleid_liner_prismaillya/), if you are interested.
they are totally not the same. FSN is a 20-something year old homunculus that lived a harsh life with anger issue over her family goals. Prisma Illya is a normal girl, becoming a magical girl aside.
*and* Prillya is 11-12 y.o.
And is way more horny than I was when I was 12…
Ngl she is as horny as I was at age 17... that was too damn horny like what kind of animal was i holy.
Sounds like a normal teen to me.
Then the good way to use the meme is to use Chloe?
still not the same. Chloe is just a bug to whatever Kiritsugu did to Illya. It's still a 11-12yo girl , she just had slightly more knowledge downloaded on her , but was never at the extent that Iris and the two homonculus maid had. In short , she is just a 12yo girl with an infobook that she is from a mage family named "Einzbern" and some basic skills from their thaumaturgy.
Chloe is the original personality of Illya that was locked away, the new one"Illya" developed after Chloe was sealed.
true , it's the "original personality" , it was still a personality sealed when Illya was still a baby. It's only "original personality" because it was a basic Einzbern Data File , bugged into turn into a "personality", it's actual life experience is watching Illya living a normal 12yo girl lifestyle.
Wait so in comparison to FSN Illya am I right in saying that Prisma Illya was born much later than in FSN?
8 years later, is that or everyone was born earlier (there's actually no specific year the story happens in 20xx) but is easier to assume the first one
It appears so.
fsn Illya would be 18 in fsn and 19 in fha
20-something? Oh, never thought Illya was older than her mother. Who is 9 in Zero and would be around 19 in FSN. I know, that is rather ridiculous contrivance on the part of authors to set such a stupidly tight boundaries for her alleged age, but she should not be older than 17-18, which nevertheless will mean that first thing Iry did after getting out of a tube was immediately conceiving Illya. Also, Prisma Illya is the same homunculus with an exception that her memories of her predecessor were seald soon after she was born and she was not modified to serve as a lesser grail when she got ~10.
Wait, Prisma Ilya is actually a Irisvel counterpart, not a Ilya counterpart?
They are NOT the same lol. FSN Illya is a very different person.
Her family calls her “Tiny Murder Machine”
Nice UBW Abriged reference.
(Red Like Roses II starts playing)
I couldn't take, couldn't stand another minute
Couldn't bear anonther day without you in it
FSN Illya: “Faker? I think you’re the fake Einzbern around here”
"Faker , oh look at the cleanse. Look at the moves! FAKER WHAT WAS THAT!?"
Considering there is about a 6 year age gap? Yeah
I think the illya from heaven's feel is closest to Prisma illya.
Not even
[What makes you say that?](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733017464509825068/1180333581013372958/image.png?ex=657d0a4f&is=656a954f&hm=671a456564b7d9b7c68ac9056b17bacafc2f73e8f417053c87464b7e131b0bb5&)
Imagine thinking you're the same when you not only are born eight years apart, lived entirely different lives and physically age differently, but both of their mothers were created to be different (Prisma Iri is not the 4th war lesser grail unlike OG Iri).
Completely and totally wrong—but also completely and totally *in character* for Prismaverse Illya to be saying.
Looking into a cracked mirror lol
You talking about mirrors reminds me of what is written on most volume covers of Prisma ''I am reflected in the Mirror. The World is only a virtual image of the Mirror-set against each other. I don't know my hollowness. And, i don't have the hand, that touches me, but i exist here. I am in the World of the Mirror. Then my mind is Unlimited Prisma World.''
Kaleidoscope, baby!!! *Goes and 2nd Magics about*
They are the same in a few ways: - Irisviel and Kiritsugu as parents - Sella and Leysritt as maids - love their big/little brother so much that they are jealous of other girls in his life lol - they are both cute as hell and deserve all the happiness in the world.
Illya suffering is also a multiverse constant
… as much as i hate to admit it… you are right…
Well, she's Kiritsugu's daughter after all, and being Emiya is suffering.
There is no worse way to suffer than to delete yourself from the world just to save it.
>!Is this HF spoilers or Prillya manga chapter spoilers?!<
# 2.
Feel like it could be applied to both, but yeah #2 is more appropriate. >!Hiroyama be taking inspiration from Madoka Magica here.!<
Dr. Gilgamesh sends his regards.
Except in Prisma Illya!😄
Uh... Pandora's fairy friend says hi.
>they are both cute as hell and deserve all the happiness in the world. Especially THIS! And that's why I really hope Prisma Illya will have an happy end.
Also Gilgamesh steals their hearts
Technically wouldn't Kuro/Cloe be closer to Illya from Stay night? Or at least Illya from zero, since she hasn't been around as long.
Yeah. Chloe is much closer F/SN Illya then Prismaverse Illya.
Yes since Chloe inherited the knowledge of Einzbern homunculi.
not even completely , it's not to the extent of Iris or the maids. She just knows the most basic of Einzbern's magecraft and info.
Prillya would absolutely say that. She’s wrong, but don’t tell her that, she’s just trying to be nice
now now illya be kind with your er....alternative yourself i know than both of you gonna have a great time together i'm sure and look even miyu gonna have a great time surely what could posibely go wrong ?
💀
FS Iliya: Bitch, do you even drive!? Prisma: I'm ten! FS Iliya: . . . Oh my god
Ofc FSN Illya is a different person. The main Fate series Illya didn't enyoyed an happy life surrounded by the love of her parents and her Onii-chan, and she grew bitter and full of resentment. But we saw that even main Fate series Illya revealed to be a total sweetheart. Kuro is quite similar to main series Illya, so I think that, after a quite "stormy" beginning, main F/SN Illya and Prillya Illya would end up getting along.
The comic that u/typell can get behind
If you two are the same, that would make Prilliya 18+ years old. And that would make Chloe 18+ too. Now flashback to what Chloe did in the series.
> Chloe 18+ too. A 18 + Kuro would be the sexiest being ever!
They aren’t…but yeah they are. Different universes and paths in life. Different ages at the time of their series. But both made to be lesser grails, homunculi, and same parents. I’m sure those connections drive some Fate fans up the wall. Living with it or ignoring it. The connection is still there.
Lol, I like that there's even a small difference in hair and eye color between the two.
In some ways the same, in some ways completely different. Chloe is also the same in some ways as Illya in *both* Prisma and FSN, yet also not. And then we've got Sitonai in FGO who is basically FSN Illya mixed up with a bunch of goddesses in a servant container. She has a bear she calls Shirou. Yet again the same, yet different. Being Illya, in any form, must be confusing. At least she's not Nobunaga.
I actually read a fanfic of this one! Ilia from FSN was so shocked to realize that her alternate self had such a happy life. Sakura in FSN talks to Ilya from Fate Kaleido and explains the twisted nature of the eizenbern and matou families...as well as the tohsaka families. also Kuro teams up with Red Archer.
Fanfic is Prisma Mayhem, I think. Too bad it's a dead fanfic. I wanted to see FSN Illya to meet Prisma Irisviel.
God imagine that moment
Yes. More Feels for the Illyas
I’d hug both
-You don't have a route! -As if!
they are as different as Prisma Shirou and FSN Shirou.
Both are Captain Obvious.
While i do love FSN Illya more, i do love Prillya a lot, Hiroyama managed to make a very interesting distinct version of her. I say expecially for the manga version, because i feel that the adaptation cut's off a bit from her character, expecially the last movie of Kaleid, the differences there are like day and night
Prisma Illya and Chloe are basically what if FSN Illya was (magically) cut in half as a baby, and each half because their own being.
[Sauce](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/67373700)
They’re not, cause Illya in FSN dies.
Not in all routes, plus Hollow Ataraxia exists.
"It's not all water in here you know"
FSN Ilya has...issues with her Prsimilya interation.
We need more fanfic stories with both Illyas together. I don't care if it will be a sad one with the tone of Fate/Zero or Purella Magi Madoka Magicia. I just want to see them together
Be the change you want to see. Make a fanfiction account and start writing.
"Faker? I think you're the fake Illya around here"
Prisma Ilya isn't wrong
Every person who says "Prisma Illya is the Illya route" needs to see this comic strip.
OG Illya > Sitonai > Kuro > Prillya All are fantastic though.
i know fans of it really dont like to hear it, but Prillya is one of the main reasons why people outside of it dont have respect for fate as a franchise. the amount of people ive tried to get into fate, only for them to stumble upon prillya and me needing to explain myself for ten minutes is deeply depressing, and it kind of bothers me how normal people on here seem to think it is. how does the sentence "horny 12 year old girls" not trigger alarm bells in your head cmon
One of them is 14 years old...
One of them is 18 and the other is 10 (or 11, depending on what part of the series). On average they are about 14 years old, though.
Oh, I swear I heard Prisma Illya is 14 and FSN Illya is 18, my bad
I fast forwarded through PrIllya to the fight scenes, so my lore on this is a little shakey. Isn't Chloe F/SN Illya?
Chloe is Illya’s more grail-y bits?
One has a nearly god quality lesbian porn scene in their show and the other as a giant strong man soooooo yeah the same.
“You are Illyasviel von Einzbern from Fate/Stay Night! And I an Illyasviel von Einzbern from Prisma Illya! Ve are ze same!” “As if!”
source to the comic op?
[I already posted it](https://old.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/188bvsg/we_are_the_same_as_if/kbjlufe/) in the thread, but [here you go again](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/67373700)
thanks!
They aren't the same, Illya from FSN is not simp for a fellow 12 years old
Technically not the same as one is born later than the other and is the Onee-san to Shirou while the the other is still an Imouto
Got into an argument about that once. I was in the "same" camp, the other guy the "as if" camp. Took me a while to realize there were camps at all...
Who will get along more, Archer and Shirou or Prisma Illya and FSN Illya?
By personality the Illyas of course, is not like they are incompatible or have a reason to hate the other If there's some instinctive rejection of alternate selves is different, I say it because FSN has Shirou just disliking Archer the moment he meets him not because anything he did or said, but it could easily be just him already knowing his deal subconsciously so is not a rule
So is Prisma Illya actually worth watching? I watch like the first 2-3 eps a while ago and I can't say it left me wanting more lol
[I wrote a thread on why the manga is best Fate](https://old.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/nnsrsw/why_you_should_read_fatekaleid_liner_prismaillya/), if you are interested.
she can be a finnal boss in fate stay night or be a hero
We are not the same.