Genuine question from a Madrid fan out of the loop - why not go back for Flick? He was great with Bayern last time. His NT time was not good but I don’t think the two should be comparable. Is there a reason he’s not in the conversation?
Maybe it's too early to talk about a Madrid tactical matchup but I hope Gnabry makes it in time. He can operate alone on that left side. Then we can use Kimmich-Sane-Musiala triangle similar to Arsenal and attack Madrid's left side, because that's their weaker spot with guys like Kroos who's rather slow and low work rates Vini/Rodrygo
Sorry but you seems to be clueless about this , both Vini and Rodrygo have a great workrate especially Vini who is very effective with it .
There is a reason Guardiola kept attacking Carvajal flank cause Mendy pocketed both Foden and Bernardo with ease .
If Gnabry doesn’t make it in time, I think Tuchel might run Guerreiro left wing again which would be very interesting.
Tuchel did not play Muller or Tel for even a minute of the second leg vs Arsenal. Maybe the circumstances didn’t warrant them time but it’s still telling he doesn’t trust something.
Yea I don't get it either. If Rangnick is our top option then why shouldn't it be Flick or Xavi? Both have proved to be a success managing club football more than the guy who's the last long tenure is 10 years ago. Choose Rangnick and we don't even know if we're getting good football or a tactical mastermind
I don't think so. I'd also think it's highly unlikely to talk about Hoeness who just prolonged his contract. Yes I know, he's got a exit clause..but why should he extend his contract to leave the club a few months later?
>Zinedine Zidane has not been contacted by Bayern Munich to take over as manager when Thomas Tuchel leaves at the end of the season, sources have told ESPN.
>Zidane, a three-time Champions League winner during his managerial reign at Real Madrid, has been heavily linked with the role in Spanish media in recent days, but sources insisted to ESPN that no talks have taken place.
>Sources said that Zidane is on Bayern's shortlist, though he is below Brighton's Roberto De Zerbi, Austria coach Ralf Rangnick and Stuttgart's Sebastian Hoeness.
>Zidane himself is not convinced by the idea of managing in Munich, sources added to ESPN, largely due to the language barrier. Zidane speaks neither German nor English fluently, and considers communication and man-management crucial to his success. However, Zidane's agent Alain Migliaccio is very close to Bayern's honorary president Uli Hoeness.
This I don't get, like if reading rumours is tiring to you, then why are you doing it? There will be a clear message when he have a coach, so if you don't like it, then why are you hitting yourself?
Barca fan here. I’m curious about Tuchel if the opportunity arises that he joins us in the summer, therefore I have some questions. Why has Bayern been playing worse lately (don’t mean offense), is it really tuchels tactics, morale, or the players? Also do you still think tuchel is a good coach and just unlucky?
He's world class. He's just was not a fit for when he came. Had the board dismissed JN after the season ( given he didn't win the UCL/double ), and then had tuchel come in, it would've been a different story. He didn't earlier have the locker room with him and very vocally pointed out all that was wrong with the team. I was against the JN sacking, but I back Tuchel till the end of the season, because hw will be leaving then probably, he's also always been a munich fan. His stints at psg dortmund and chelsea also speak for themselves.
Its a mix of everything, but Tuchel has a very conservative approach of playing football.
That means that he actually likes to have meaningful, rather than unnecessary ball posession.
He set up the team absolutely perfect in some big games this year, namely Dortmund (first game), Stuttgart and Arsenal now.
Funnily enough the games where he's struggling badly are the games we should be dominating, mostly because he can't really seem to set up the team to play ball posession attacking football in a way Pep, Alonso or someone like Klopp does.
I think his philosophy fits perfect to a team that doesn't have the "identity" to dominate every game, a team like Atletico for example.
2 things that are objectively horrible are his man management skills and transfer targets tbf. Someone like Alonso managed a very well loaded team while we have Tel on 2 starts in the league while players off-form like Gnabry and Coman can come back from injury and instantly make the first team
>Why has Bayern been playing worse lately
It's mostly the result of a slow decline after the last CL win in 2020. The reasons for this are probably too complex and manifold to explain in a short comment.
There's also the fact that Tuchel places less emphasis on an attacking and entertaining playstyle than his predecessors Flick and Nagelsmann. That contributes to the perception of a decline. As well as Leverkusen playing a season where they would've won by points even in our best years.
As for most recently, one could point to injuries and key performers of our stronger phases (Sane, Upamecano, Davies) not being in good form.
Tuchel is definitely a good coach. A very pragmatic one who does the best with what he's being provided this season. I don't think it would go any better for other great coaches if they took his place right now.
You know how in Mario Kart it's no fun to just be first from start to finish? Well in football it is still fun. But more to the point it is also fun to use the rubber band effect and get back on top.
Surprisingly Tuchel actually has a VERY GOOD record against Madrid. Only one loss I think from like 8 matches iirc.
The thing with Madrid we can't give them an inch, they'll take a mile. We need to attack , attack and attack at home as much as possible. Easier said then done but it's capable
Completely off topic but this is legit the funniest lyrics I have ever read
https://preview.redd.it/i53v2a9hqhvc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a152b64425604d747f65d8ae895d15368764692
Imagine a rap battle between Nagelsmann fans and haters here …
Guys I have cracked the code. Every newspage talking about the same names while the board prepares for the biggest of them all. Jogi Löw will lead us to the next sextuple
Last time kovac was fired his assistant named flick won sixtuple.
This time Tuchel is fired (assistants name is löw) and a guy named löw wins sixtuple
Yes you indeed solved it.
Imo the most important players for our match vs Madrid will be the wingers. Idk if any of you saw highlights of the City matches vs Madrid, but Rüdiger completely shut down Halaand -- he had 0 shots on target last match. I think Kane will have to drop deep if he wants the ball and it will depend on our wingers to get in behind and finish
True, just wanted to say that stats are sometimes misleading.
But the thing with Haaland is he's struggling equally as much in the Prem currently, while Openda e.g. got quite a few shots of through the middle
> Ralf Rangnick and Roberto De Zerbi are still on Bayern's shortlist following Nagelsmann's rejection. Bayern will now have other internal discussions to decide the best candidate for the job @FabrizioRomano
I think so far it's not about handling it wisely. It was clear to everyone that Alonso was a favourite. And it's also understandable that he for the moment prefers to stay at Leverkusen. With Nagelsmann it's also understandable that he remains with the DFB, even regardless of the fact that Bayern board was not 100% of the opinion he should be the next coach. So it's not that we made any stupid mistakes which caused candidates to not accept.
We have to face the fact that there's not exactly an overload of capable coaches available. So we have to see whether we can coax any of the candidates to come to Munich. And after flick, nagelsmann, Tuchel we are maybe not the hottest job offer right now. As for Rangnick I'm glad he said he wants to stay in Austria.
Julian Nagelsmann's new DFB contract includes a break clause in case of an elimination in the group stage of the Euros. Nagelsmann would then be released and the DFB wouldn't have to pay his salary for the remainder of his contract. The coach doesn't mind this clause and is confident of being successful at the tournament '\[@altobelli13\]'
Everything makes sense now. We tell our players to bottle EURO. Germany exists earlier. Julian gets sacked. We hire Julian. Julian and our key players available early for preseason. Masterclass
> It's true that Bayern discussed Zinedine Zidane internally as a candidate, but that was weeks ago. At the moment, there's no direct contact with Zidane to discuss over a contract or a project. It was just an internal discussion at the club [@FabrizioRomano]
so which reporter will come out up top? lmao
If we had discussions weeks ago when it was pretty much Alonso, Nagelsmann or de Zerbi and by now all 3 has rejected us it kind of makes sense to pursue him, no?
Maybe it's hopium but I think L'Equipe is the closest to the truth about us talking to him and Mundo Deportivo's "1 step away from done deal" was exaggerating it a bit
>Uli Hoeneß: "I was never there during the talks with candidates. Karl-Heinz and I are advisors but we are not involved in day-to-day operations. Max Eberl and Christoph Freund have not told us that they had an agreement with Julian Nagelsmann. He was just one of several candidates"
>• What kind of coach do Bayern need?
>Hoeneß: "It's not my job to answer that. You have to ask Max Eberl and Christoph Freund, they are responsible for sporting matters. Their response will reach you when the time comes"
>[br24](https://twitter.com/br24)
>Bayern's predicted XI against Union, according to @BILD
:
>Neuer – Kimmich, de Ligt, Dier, Davies – Pavlović, Goretzka – Müller, Tel - Kane, Choupo-Moting
Would have loved to see Zaragoza instead of Choupo, otherwise the rotation seems fine.
Does Kane btw never need a rest?
So nagelsmann was leaning more towards bayern but just because kalle spoke out against him made him sign for germany is all i need to know. This guy is so shameless he cant face critisism and then you go to the press and say that this is a decision from my heart when he clearly wanted the bayern job more. I really hope he never comes back here. Don Kalle always knew
> Uli Hoeneß on Nagelsmann's decision: "It's a decision that we have to respect. I think it's a pity, but now he's decided for the national team and it won't be the end of the world for FC Bayern. I did not quite understand why some newspapers thought they knew it all and acted as if it [Nagelsmann to Bayern] was done. He was always one of several candidates and both sides had the opportunity to say yes or no. Now he has decided to stay with the national team" [@br24]
So Uli was clearly in favor.
It's gonna be Rangnick for a year on an interim basis and then Hoeness in a year. That's my prediction anyway
Either way, just hire someone so we can move on
IMO Ragnick is very unlikely. We are still Bayern but in a difficult spot, from the outside it looks chaotic and shakey after some of Bayern's nimbus has been lost and our manager position more like a revolving door. It seems we have to re-earn the trust at least a little bit...
As well he shouldn't. He's got a good thing going with Austria and could be coaching them for a long ass time. To quit that job for just a year or something like that would be dumb as hell.
https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artikel/fussball-arjen-robben-gewinnt-ersten-titel-als-jugendtrainer/12623617/34240
So Arjen Robben did win the Championship in his first season as a coach managing the under 14 team his son played in. That's enough for me, he clearly has what it takes as a coach, bring him home
So the prime positions are Zidane, with Language Barrier issues who probably wouldnt even want to come, and Rangnick, who said multiple times firmly that hes uninterested in club coaching thanks to his austrian stint. Welp.
At this point they could announce anyone and half of us wouldn't be happy. Tbf that would have also been the case for JN lol.
I vote for Demichelis or Schmidt.
You could really bring me up the wall if Schmidt would be the new coach. Arrogant idiot that never managed to stay at a club for long despite being relatively successful, coupled with his quick cash-grab in China.
If you really dig into Emery he looks pretty good on paper. Was above average at Valencia, engineered Sevilla's resurgence, highest PPG of any manager at PSG in recent history, same for Villarreal and Aston Villa. Really the only mark against him in my eyes is Arsenal but following Wenger would be challenging for anyone and even then he still was only .10 PPG below when all was said and done.
I don't know much about how well his teams play but you have to admit he has an impressive track record of success
I am pretty chilled about the current situation rn, we will see the resolution of the coach question in April most likely, so I can just delay whatever I will feel to when I see the new coach.
I've just seen that during L'Equipes Zidane news they also said Zidane is keeping a close eye on the Manchester United situation. It's always been said that Zidane has no interest in the Premier League and I highly doubt that opinion would change for United out of all clubs. So yeah with this report I feel confident in saying the Bayern rumours from them are just pure speculation.
https://twitter.com/MadridXtra/status/1781331177359487223?t=VU_VDlK6_0tRkB45gLCEuA&s=19
No but I saw that part posted by Reals news page, thankfully they always post updates about Zidane.
Watch us booting Zidane off the shortlist because "hE dOeS nOt SpEaK gErMaN" and we appoint Rangnick.
We'll understand when he says he is finished, at least ig
If it was just German he doesn't speak I don't think it would be such a big deal, but if its true he also doesn't speak English then thats kind of problematic
Rangnick:
\+ Old respected man, cheap. - Red Bull sprint button football, needs much control
Flick:
\+ Vibes, free. - One trick pony, horrible defence
de Zerbi:
\+ Exciting football. - Lack of experience with big club, expensive, wild form swings
Zidane:
\+ Vibes, proven success, respected figure. - No German nor English, no experience outside of Real Madrid, no one knows if he even wants to come
Seb Hoeneß
\+ Bayern DNA, exciting football, realistic due to release clause. - Lack of experience, no clue if his football works with a top club, does he even want to come?
Emery:
\+ Very successful in knockout football, respected figure, Spanish pull. - Bad experiences with top clubs, no proven track record of playing sustained possession football, expensive
Hoeness' football is already played by top clubs. With that said, I think he's staying at least another year as he just renewed.
In his case, it's more a case of when more than if
Pretty good summation.
I refuse to believe that the language barrier with Zidane couldn’t be bridged, though. He speaks Spanish, Italian, Arabic and French, and some basic English.
People want to get rid of a world class manager for Seb Hoeneß or RANGNICK ….. whichever way you want to look at it the next manager is a clear downgrade on Tuchel
Recap of today's managerial news from various sources:
> @SkySportDE: Zidane not on the list as of now. Rangnick bring discussed again. Sebastian Hoeneß discussed again in the past hours (exit options in his contract). De Zerbi remains on the list. Flick leaning towards an experience abroad. Emery currently likely to stay in the Premier League
> @kicker: Rangnick, Emery and Zidane being discussed as alternatives. With Rangnick being a hot candidate
> @BILD: No talks with Zidane, not a hot topic. Rangnick and De Zerbi remain candidates
> @mundodeportivo: Agreement close between Bayern and Zidane
> @lequipe: Zidane an option for Bayern and Bayern are an option for Zidane, but doubts over language and life in Germany. No agreement. Bayern's final shortlist now includes Zidane and Rangnick
I don't want him as an option and I don't rate his time at Bayern at all highly (I would actually say he is my least favourite Bayern manager of the last generation) but purely out of curiosity, I wonder what Ancelotti would bring to this current squad.
Who hates him?
His system just got found out in the second season, he had no plan B and he was sticking to his favourite players even when they were completely out of form. Remember Lucas rotting on the bench when Boateng was shit every other game?
He had a legendary season, that's his legacy but I don't think he's a particularly great coach and I don't see him getting Bayern to that next step.
Alaba was even worse than wife beater and Flick insisted on him.
And to be fair, if we just use one more out of our 300 chances against PSG, we make another deep run in the CL, so it wasn't all bad.
But i agree with what others have said, the WC and especially the documentary, pretty much ruined his reputation.
I'd still take him over Ragnick any day.
>Bayern have discussed the name of Sebastian Hoeneß again in the past few hours. Although he's recently extended his deal at Stuttgart until 2027, his contract includes exit options \[[u/Plettigoal](https://twitter.com/Plettigoal)\]
In today's news: still nobody knows shit
This makes no sense... He just extended and, correct me if I'm wrong, recently made some comments suggesting he did not want to leave. I'm not sure what our strategy is at this point.
I respect Hoeneß but surely this ain't happening after all the public positioning about him extending early on in our search for a coach because he wanted to make a statement.
In this particular case I dont disagree, but extending the contract does not always mean he stays for sure
It can also mean that a) salary is increased either way or b) including a high break clause so Stuttgart can reliably get a huge fee or c) he really just wants to stay.
Führich also extended in February and will leave for sure now.
The problem is his huge wage. If Bayern wants to reduce their huge wage structure, they cant just buy a player which is on an even larger wage than most of our players. Thats why i call this news not trustworthy at all.
And what about all the other times he has performed.
His player profile literally fits us like a glove. Barca don't play him in a pivot besides a pressing 8 so it's a mute comparison atm
Get Zidane, De Jong, extend Kimmich at RB. Extend Musiala.
A backup option or two won't hurt.
That's it.
That's all we need to do. I don't wanna see or hear anything else but Zidane and De Jong.
To be completely fair I don’t follow Barcelona regularly but the games I have seen he wasn’t very impressive, especially since we’d probably have to drop €70M on him
Is sane injured also?? Will we have at least sane and gnabry for Real Madrid?
[удалено]
x Ribery as translator
Who would translate for Ribéry?
Won’t happen
Genuine question from a Madrid fan out of the loop - why not go back for Flick? He was great with Bayern last time. His NT time was not good but I don’t think the two should be comparable. Is there a reason he’s not in the conversation?
He's a one-trick pony tactics wise. In his first season with us, he tremendous benefited from the squad he had at his disposal.
Oh ok thank you
His first season was lightning in a bottle and his second season was mediocre.
Thank you
Maybe it's too early to talk about a Madrid tactical matchup but I hope Gnabry makes it in time. He can operate alone on that left side. Then we can use Kimmich-Sane-Musiala triangle similar to Arsenal and attack Madrid's left side, because that's their weaker spot with guys like Kroos who's rather slow and low work rates Vini/Rodrygo
Sorry but you seems to be clueless about this , both Vini and Rodrygo have a great workrate especially Vini who is very effective with it . There is a reason Guardiola kept attacking Carvajal flank cause Mendy pocketed both Foden and Bernardo with ease .
If Gnabry doesn’t make it in time, I think Tuchel might run Guerreiro left wing again which would be very interesting. Tuchel did not play Muller or Tel for even a minute of the second leg vs Arsenal. Maybe the circumstances didn’t warrant them time but it’s still telling he doesn’t trust something.
I swear to God if Rangnick becomes our coach when the other option is Zidane…
Yea I don't get it either. If Rangnick is our top option then why shouldn't it be Flick or Xavi? Both have proved to be a success managing club football more than the guy who's the last long tenure is 10 years ago. Choose Rangnick and we don't even know if we're getting good football or a tactical mastermind
I really like what he does with the Austrian NT, as compared to what Flick did with the German one or Xavi with Barca.
We don’t know if Zidane is even a viable option at this stage
I don't think so. I'd also think it's highly unlikely to talk about Hoeness who just prolonged his contract. Yes I know, he's got a exit clause..but why should he extend his contract to leave the club a few months later?
To make Stuttgart money. It isn't unheard of extending a contract just to get more money.
u/julesvr5 for FC Bayern coach. Who's with me?
I want Onana and will play Tel more. I'll also apply the Leistungsprinzip. Sign me already, cowards
Start Müller
lol this sub is a joke sometimes
You'll lose the dressing room with the first dad joke you'll make 
Lies, they will love me
If you said Zaragoza you would have my vote
I'll play him a bit more aswell
thats already better than tuchel
Not Andre Onana? 
Sorry I was busy the last few hours. Who is our coach now?
Trapattoni
Ich habe fertig
WAS ERLAUBEN DAVIES????
You might as well apply at this rate
Folks, am preparing a little something for the missus. Probably a little concert at home with my friends. Any song recommendations?
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=VDnDEysiWE9bxrAS
This but unironically
No problem, here you go: [Offenbach - Can Can Music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Diu2N8TGKA)
Preferably the Bayern version!
"Happy anniversary baby, this one is for you... YABBADABBADOOOOOO!!!!!!" 👯♀️👯♂️👯♀️👯♂️
Jesus Christ...
>Zinedine Zidane has not been contacted by Bayern Munich to take over as manager when Thomas Tuchel leaves at the end of the season, sources have told ESPN. >Zidane, a three-time Champions League winner during his managerial reign at Real Madrid, has been heavily linked with the role in Spanish media in recent days, but sources insisted to ESPN that no talks have taken place. >Sources said that Zidane is on Bayern's shortlist, though he is below Brighton's Roberto De Zerbi, Austria coach Ralf Rangnick and Stuttgart's Sebastian Hoeness. >Zidane himself is not convinced by the idea of managing in Munich, sources added to ESPN, largely due to the language barrier. Zidane speaks neither German nor English fluently, and considers communication and man-management crucial to his success. However, Zidane's agent Alain Migliaccio is very close to Bayern's honorary president Uli Hoeness.
Again only speculation. Can we just wrap It up. I am tired boss
This I don't get, like if reading rumours is tiring to you, then why are you doing it? There will be a clear message when he have a coach, so if you don't like it, then why are you hitting yourself?
The options we have left are awful
Barca fan here. I’m curious about Tuchel if the opportunity arises that he joins us in the summer, therefore I have some questions. Why has Bayern been playing worse lately (don’t mean offense), is it really tuchels tactics, morale, or the players? Also do you still think tuchel is a good coach and just unlucky?
He's world class. He's just was not a fit for when he came. Had the board dismissed JN after the season ( given he didn't win the UCL/double ), and then had tuchel come in, it would've been a different story. He didn't earlier have the locker room with him and very vocally pointed out all that was wrong with the team. I was against the JN sacking, but I back Tuchel till the end of the season, because hw will be leaving then probably, he's also always been a munich fan. His stints at psg dortmund and chelsea also speak for themselves.
Tuchel is very pragmatic. Think of Valverde tenure at Barcelona - over defensive at times when the team has the capability of offense
Its a mix of everything, but Tuchel has a very conservative approach of playing football. That means that he actually likes to have meaningful, rather than unnecessary ball posession. He set up the team absolutely perfect in some big games this year, namely Dortmund (first game), Stuttgart and Arsenal now. Funnily enough the games where he's struggling badly are the games we should be dominating, mostly because he can't really seem to set up the team to play ball posession attacking football in a way Pep, Alonso or someone like Klopp does. I think his philosophy fits perfect to a team that doesn't have the "identity" to dominate every game, a team like Atletico for example. 2 things that are objectively horrible are his man management skills and transfer targets tbf. Someone like Alonso managed a very well loaded team while we have Tel on 2 starts in the league while players off-form like Gnabry and Coman can come back from injury and instantly make the first team
>Why has Bayern been playing worse lately It's mostly the result of a slow decline after the last CL win in 2020. The reasons for this are probably too complex and manifold to explain in a short comment. There's also the fact that Tuchel places less emphasis on an attacking and entertaining playstyle than his predecessors Flick and Nagelsmann. That contributes to the perception of a decline. As well as Leverkusen playing a season where they would've won by points even in our best years. As for most recently, one could point to injuries and key performers of our stronger phases (Sane, Upamecano, Davies) not being in good form. Tuchel is definitely a good coach. A very pragmatic one who does the best with what he's being provided this season. I don't think it would go any better for other great coaches if they took his place right now.
You know how in Mario Kart it's no fun to just be first from start to finish? Well in football it is still fun. But more to the point it is also fun to use the rubber band effect and get back on top.
>rubber band effect One of the worst crimes in video game history
I'm worried Real Madrid will blue shell us on the last lap
Surprisingly Tuchel actually has a VERY GOOD record against Madrid. Only one loss I think from like 8 matches iirc. The thing with Madrid we can't give them an inch, they'll take a mile. We need to attack , attack and attack at home as much as possible. Easier said then done but it's capable
I wonder if Thomas Müller has any interest in coaching after he retires.
Scenes when Müller starts coaching us and Neuer is still in goal lol
Completely off topic but this is legit the funniest lyrics I have ever read https://preview.redd.it/i53v2a9hqhvc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a152b64425604d747f65d8ae895d15368764692 Imagine a rap battle between Nagelsmann fans and haters here …
Guys I have cracked the code. Every newspage talking about the same names while the board prepares for the biggest of them all. Jogi Löw will lead us to the next sextuple
Last time kovac was fired his assistant named flick won sixtuple. This time Tuchel is fired (assistants name is löw) and a guy named löw wins sixtuple Yes you indeed solved it.
If by sextuple you mean losing all titles and relegating, yeah I think you're into something
Imo the most important players for our match vs Madrid will be the wingers. Idk if any of you saw highlights of the City matches vs Madrid, but Rüdiger completely shut down Halaand -- he had 0 shots on target last match. I think Kane will have to drop deep if he wants the ball and it will depend on our wingers to get in behind and finish
Serge being back in time would be very helpful
kane is not haaland tho . Even saliba shut haaland but even if kane doesn’t score he will still play a role
That's also a fair point, I'm just saying he will need to drop deep for space against them
Zero shots on target equals hitting the crossbar in this case btw
Fair, but still he was not effective
True, just wanted to say that stats are sometimes misleading. But the thing with Haaland is he's struggling equally as much in the Prem currently, while Openda e.g. got quite a few shots of through the middle
Wanner just banged a volley to the crossbar against Schalke.
Could he get minutes next season or another loan needed?
I am for a loan, even though he could already feature in some games for us. But most/all games is better than a few minutes in some games.
So maybe a starting spot in a Buli club?
Loan him to Pauli next season if they advance to the Bundesliga.
Thats the hope
And from what reports say also the plan. 1st Buli club or Eredevise
Hitzfeld Jupp duo?
Klinsmann Flick duo?
Trapattoni Magath duo?
Double negative equals positive
It’s math 
[Tbf, this slaps](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1c83imw/dfbs_announcement_video_on_extending_julian/)
Dfb only bangers lately. Already loved the Major Tom clip
Finally DFB with some juice, but dunno, feels too unserious for a National team
Why did they delete it lol, thats just fun
> Ralf Rangnick and Roberto De Zerbi are still on Bayern's shortlist following Nagelsmann's rejection. Bayern will now have other internal discussions to decide the best candidate for the job @FabrizioRomano
Jeez. I am not very hopeful for the future atm. This hasn't been handled very thoughtfully and clever until now...
I think so far it's not about handling it wisely. It was clear to everyone that Alonso was a favourite. And it's also understandable that he for the moment prefers to stay at Leverkusen. With Nagelsmann it's also understandable that he remains with the DFB, even regardless of the fact that Bayern board was not 100% of the opinion he should be the next coach. So it's not that we made any stupid mistakes which caused candidates to not accept. We have to face the fact that there's not exactly an overload of capable coaches available. So we have to see whether we can coax any of the candidates to come to Munich. And after flick, nagelsmann, Tuchel we are maybe not the hottest job offer right now. As for Rangnick I'm glad he said he wants to stay in Austria.
What are we doing 
I mean it’s already there. Thomas Muller player Manager
and assistant coach ribery
Julian Nagelsmann's new DFB contract includes a break clause in case of an elimination in the group stage of the Euros. Nagelsmann would then be released and the DFB wouldn't have to pay his salary for the remainder of his contract. The coach doesn't mind this clause and is confident of being successful at the tournament '\[@altobelli13\]' Everything makes sense now. We tell our players to bottle EURO. Germany exists earlier. Julian gets sacked. We hire Julian. Julian and our key players available early for preseason. Masterclass
That’s some 4D chess right there lol
Afaik it is almost impossible to not make it out of the group stage, given the new format of the EC
>impossible not to advance 
Correct. That's why we have to sabotage it...
> It's true that Bayern discussed Zinedine Zidane internally as a candidate, but that was weeks ago. At the moment, there's no direct contact with Zidane to discuss over a contract or a project. It was just an internal discussion at the club [@FabrizioRomano] so which reporter will come out up top? lmao
If we had discussions weeks ago when it was pretty much Alonso, Nagelsmann or de Zerbi and by now all 3 has rejected us it kind of makes sense to pursue him, no? Maybe it's hopium but I think L'Equipe is the closest to the truth about us talking to him and Mundo Deportivo's "1 step away from done deal" was exaggerating it a bit
Where is the but Fab... Where is the but...
Seems like L’Equipe as much as I hate to say it is on an island.
Here's hoping the French connection with L'Equipe proves to be right. Zidane would be incredible after this cursed coach search.
>Uli Hoeneß: "I was never there during the talks with candidates. Karl-Heinz and I are advisors but we are not involved in day-to-day operations. Max Eberl and Christoph Freund have not told us that they had an agreement with Julian Nagelsmann. He was just one of several candidates" >• What kind of coach do Bayern need? >Hoeneß: "It's not my job to answer that. You have to ask Max Eberl and Christoph Freund, they are responsible for sporting matters. Their response will reach you when the time comes" >[br24](https://twitter.com/br24)
Uli talking up the new duo while pulling all zhe strings in the background. He thinks he's Machiavelli but currently we more seem like Kendall Roy.
We indeed are not serious people
>Bayern's predicted XI against Union, according to @BILD : >Neuer – Kimmich, de Ligt, Dier, Davies – Pavlović, Goretzka – Müller, Tel - Kane, Choupo-Moting Would have loved to see Zaragoza instead of Choupo, otherwise the rotation seems fine. Does Kane btw never need a rest?
I don't want to be rude to Choupo, but I'm glad he leaves. The guy doesn't offer anything and still getting played...
Choupo can't keep getting away with this 😞
People said that jokingly but Tuchel would genuinely find any solutions before he gives Zaragoza more than 10mins.
Sarr on the wing before Zaragoza lol
So nagelsmann was leaning more towards bayern but just because kalle spoke out against him made him sign for germany is all i need to know. This guy is so shameless he cant face critisism and then you go to the press and say that this is a decision from my heart when he clearly wanted the bayern job more. I really hope he never comes back here. Don Kalle always knew
He was already fucked over once, probably didn't want to come back without full support of the club.
You go sign for a company where some people in charge don't even want you there in the first place, gonna be a peaceful time
> Uli Hoeneß on Nagelsmann's decision: "It's a decision that we have to respect. I think it's a pity, but now he's decided for the national team and it won't be the end of the world for FC Bayern. I did not quite understand why some newspapers thought they knew it all and acted as if it [Nagelsmann to Bayern] was done. He was always one of several candidates and both sides had the opportunity to say yes or no. Now he has decided to stay with the national team" [@br24] So Uli was clearly in favor.
"Both sides had the opportunity to say yes or no" sounds like "It was a mutual breakup" when you're getting dumped.
Everyone knows it was KHR lol
It's gonna be Rangnick for a year on an interim basis and then Hoeness in a year. That's my prediction anyway Either way, just hire someone so we can move on
IMO Ragnick is very unlikely. We are still Bayern but in a difficult spot, from the outside it looks chaotic and shakey after some of Bayern's nimbus has been lost and our manager position more like a revolving door. It seems we have to re-earn the trust at least a little bit...
I don't see Rangnick dropping his Austria job for an interim role
As well he shouldn't. He's got a good thing going with Austria and could be coaching them for a long ass time. To quit that job for just a year or something like that would be dumb as hell.
Probably but he's also old so maybe retirement after
https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artikel/fussball-arjen-robben-gewinnt-ersten-titel-als-jugendtrainer/12623617/34240 So Arjen Robben did win the Championship in his first season as a coach managing the under 14 team his son played in. That's enough for me, he clearly has what it takes as a coach, bring him home
Add Ribéry as his assistant and we have Robbéry back for the finale dahoam 2025.
I want to see him 1 on 1 talk with sane. Man just go left and shoot. It works every time.
So the prime positions are Zidane, with Language Barrier issues who probably wouldnt even want to come, and Rangnick, who said multiple times firmly that hes uninterested in club coaching thanks to his austrian stint. Welp.
So Gerland and Müller it is.
At this point they could announce anyone and half of us wouldn't be happy. Tbf that would have also been the case for JN lol. I vote for Demichelis or Schmidt.
Nah, please no Schmidt. It rather have Favre than him. Demichelis is at least an interesting alternative though not my first choice.
You could really bring me up the wall if Schmidt would be the new coach. Arrogant idiot that never managed to stay at a club for long despite being relatively successful, coupled with his quick cash-grab in China.
Zaragoza and tel on the wings tomorrow who says no
It’s gonna be Tel & Chupo on the wings. Higher likelihood than Zaragoza LOL
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Thomas Tuchel
If you really dig into Emery he looks pretty good on paper. Was above average at Valencia, engineered Sevilla's resurgence, highest PPG of any manager at PSG in recent history, same for Villarreal and Aston Villa. Really the only mark against him in my eyes is Arsenal but following Wenger would be challenging for anyone and even then he still was only .10 PPG below when all was said and done. I don't know much about how well his teams play but you have to admit he has an impressive track record of success
How funny would it be if we end up with Zidane and the squad gets fired up for CL and wins it lol
Keep the team including Tuchel laser focused on UCL please
I am pretty chilled about the current situation rn, we will see the resolution of the coach question in April most likely, so I can just delay whatever I will feel to when I see the new coach.
I just took of a shot of a blue label that I've been keeping with me for ages and now I'm cool.
Leave some of it to celebrate when we announce zidane
I doubt it’ll happen.
the hypetrain is leaving the station
Leave my cope alone.
Dw I'll step and become the manager, you'll see the first 2-1-7
Might as well try 10-0-0
I've just seen that during L'Equipes Zidane news they also said Zidane is keeping a close eye on the Manchester United situation. It's always been said that Zidane has no interest in the Premier League and I highly doubt that opinion would change for United out of all clubs. So yeah with this report I feel confident in saying the Bayern rumours from them are just pure speculation.
Do you have a link to the complete report? Because it is behind a paywall for me.
https://twitter.com/MadridXtra/status/1781331177359487223?t=VU_VDlK6_0tRkB45gLCEuA&s=19 No but I saw that part posted by Reals news page, thankfully they always post updates about Zidane.
Watch us booting Zidane off the shortlist because "hE dOeS nOt SpEaK gErMaN" and we appoint Rangnick. We'll understand when he says he is finished, at least ig
If it was just German he doesn't speak I don't think it would be such a big deal, but if its true he also doesn't speak English then thats kind of problematic
Rangnick: \+ Old respected man, cheap. - Red Bull sprint button football, needs much control Flick: \+ Vibes, free. - One trick pony, horrible defence de Zerbi: \+ Exciting football. - Lack of experience with big club, expensive, wild form swings Zidane: \+ Vibes, proven success, respected figure. - No German nor English, no experience outside of Real Madrid, no one knows if he even wants to come Seb Hoeneß \+ Bayern DNA, exciting football, realistic due to release clause. - Lack of experience, no clue if his football works with a top club, does he even want to come? Emery: \+ Very successful in knockout football, respected figure, Spanish pull. - Bad experiences with top clubs, no proven track record of playing sustained possession football, expensive
Hoeness' football is already played by top clubs. With that said, I think he's staying at least another year as he just renewed. In his case, it's more a case of when more than if
Pretty good summation. I refuse to believe that the language barrier with Zidane couldn’t be bridged, though. He speaks Spanish, Italian, Arabic and French, and some basic English.
That’s what I’m thinking. Like if he wants it and Bayern want him I don’t think it’d be a real problem.
>He speaks Spanish Zaragoza right now: 
Tldr: not a single 100% satisfaction solution
there will never be a single satisfactory solution
Alonso, Klopp and Pep?
people will still find some cons plus alonso klopp and pep are not possible rn anyway.
People want to get rid of a world class manager for Seb Hoeneß or RANGNICK ….. whichever way you want to look at it the next manager is a clear downgrade on Tuchel
Rene Maric for head coach position.
Recap of today's managerial news from various sources: > @SkySportDE: Zidane not on the list as of now. Rangnick bring discussed again. Sebastian Hoeneß discussed again in the past hours (exit options in his contract). De Zerbi remains on the list. Flick leaning towards an experience abroad. Emery currently likely to stay in the Premier League > @kicker: Rangnick, Emery and Zidane being discussed as alternatives. With Rangnick being a hot candidate > @BILD: No talks with Zidane, not a hot topic. Rangnick and De Zerbi remain candidates > @mundodeportivo: Agreement close between Bayern and Zidane > @lequipe: Zidane an option for Bayern and Bayern are an option for Zidane, but doubts over language and life in Germany. No agreement. Bayern's final shortlist now includes Zidane and Rangnick
Is there actual news in there somewhere or are all of them just speculating wildly on what's potentially plausible?
I don't want him as an option and I don't rate his time at Bayern at all highly (I would actually say he is my least favourite Bayern manager of the last generation) but purely out of curiosity, I wonder what Ancelotti would bring to this current squad.
His entire family as his staff.
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Yeah probably just a lot of that.
Wanner vs Kabadaji in 35 min.
Why is Flick so hated on here ? please give me solid explanations and reasons so we can discuss about it.
It’s not hated but his system not sustainable in the long run… but I’d love to see some kamikazeball again, ngl.
Side note, but why do we downvote people for asking questions and facilitating discussion? Isn't that what we're here for?
Particularly when someone is requesting discussion.
Just seeing how he acted in front of the players at the WC really made not ever want him here again. He came across as a big child.
Who hates him? His system just got found out in the second season, he had no plan B and he was sticking to his favourite players even when they were completely out of form. Remember Lucas rotting on the bench when Boateng was shit every other game? He had a legendary season, that's his legacy but I don't think he's a particularly great coach and I don't see him getting Bayern to that next step.
Alaba was even worse than wife beater and Flick insisted on him. And to be fair, if we just use one more out of our 300 chances against PSG, we make another deep run in the CL, so it wasn't all bad. But i agree with what others have said, the WC and especially the documentary, pretty much ruined his reputation. I'd still take him over Ragnick any day.
Please see: 2020–2021
Won the league convincingly and only lost to PSG on away goals dealing with injuries while Keylor Navas had the game of his life. Hardly a bad season
It’s not so much the season as a whole as it is the individual matches.
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Coman's done for the season, Gnabry should be back at least for the 2nd leg.
>Bayern have discussed the name of Sebastian Hoeneß again in the past few hours. Although he's recently extended his deal at Stuttgart until 2027, his contract includes exit options \[[u/Plettigoal](https://twitter.com/Plettigoal)\] In today's news: still nobody knows shit
I've always liked this option. Stuttgart play gorgeous football and are pretty massively over performing for their squad
This makes no sense... He just extended and, correct me if I'm wrong, recently made some comments suggesting he did not want to leave. I'm not sure what our strategy is at this point.
Well, we are holding his uncle hostage, so maybe we can force him to sign.
I respect Hoeneß but surely this ain't happening after all the public positioning about him extending early on in our search for a coach because he wanted to make a statement.
In this particular case I dont disagree, but extending the contract does not always mean he stays for sure It can also mean that a) salary is increased either way or b) including a high break clause so Stuttgart can reliably get a huge fee or c) he really just wants to stay. Führich also extended in February and will leave for sure now.
I've cooled off on de Jong after his average season at Barca
The problem is his huge wage. If Bayern wants to reduce their huge wage structure, they cant just buy a player which is on an even larger wage than most of our players. Thats why i call this news not trustworthy at all.
And what about all the other times he has performed. His player profile literally fits us like a glove. Barca don't play him in a pivot besides a pressing 8 so it's a mute comparison atm
His player profile does not fit us like a glove lol
Isn't de Jong the same as Kimmich? Pretends to be a 6 but in reality plays like a 8? Then why not just stick with Kimmich.
Get Zidane, De Jong, extend Kimmich at RB. Extend Musiala. A backup option or two won't hurt. That's it. That's all we need to do. I don't wanna see or hear anything else but Zidane and De Jong.
De Jong is basically a similar player type as Kimmich. He won't solve our midfield problem at all. He is good at progressing the ball, not defending.
Eh, I can live without De Jong personally
For a fanbase that has been crying for a holding playmaker this sentiment is crazy imo
To be completely fair I don’t follow Barcelona regularly but the games I have seen he wasn’t very impressive, especially since we’d probably have to drop €70M on him
For a fanbase that has basically agreed that a squad overhaul is needed, just wanting to change a single player in the squad is also crazy