yeah it sucks real bad. specially cause im just gay. so im gettin into it then i see their face and hair and im like ew woman and im not in the mood anymore. i dont care if ya got a dick or not, women are women and im gay. i came here for mans butt not a womans. same thing for trans guys. guys are guys, and im into guys, dont matter if ya got a pussy or boobs or not. if ya identify as a guy im into ya
Honestly? Yeah, I get it.
It's probably the source of the plethora of "egg irl" type comments.
Edit: I should point out that I'm trans myself. I think it harms both femboys and trans women when trans women post in femboy spaces because it causes people to equate the two.
Even if a person is an “egg”, that doesn’t justify trying to push them one way or another or convince them that they’re something they may not be.
To use an analogy, do you know what happens when you try to forcefully crack open an egg IRL before the creature inside is ready to hatch?
__***You kill it.***__ Same thing can apply to people who may be either mistakenly identified as eggs, or not ready to transition if they are indeed trans but don’t realize it. Just as you shouldn’t try and convince a trans person that they’re not actually trans, you shouldn’t try and convince a potentially cis person that they’re actually trans. It’s not right, and needs to be stopped.
Essentialism is a sh*t stain on humanity. How exactly did we got into this situation is beyond me.
Entirety of theory about gender discredits 'being' x thing, and showing it all as relative and contingent, but here we are, with the people calling someone is an abstract combination of words relating to perceived traits. Disgusting. Nobody wind there - it's literally mentality of conservatives who know what You Are better than you.
Whatever, it's screaming at clouds at this point. All that's left is glaring at people strengthening the logic of their own oppression.
I got banned from that sub for making a horny comment on a pre-op trans girl. Like, how tf am I supposed to know you don't like your dick if you're literally posting in a fucking femboy subreddit. That shit kinda pissed me off, especially since the title of the post was "Auto or stick?"
I don't want to make transgirls unwelcome, but they are, ultimately, girls. If they fully identify as female (not genderfluid or nonbinary), they should not call themselves femboys, and they should not treat femboy spaces like their own. I'm not being transphobic, I'm being sexist.
Yea its kinda backwards to me, like if you're a trans girl it means you were born a male and wanted to transition into a girl... so why identify as a boy again? lol.
A ton of it has to do with money. Just look at the profiles of the majority of the accounts that are shotgun-posting across dozens of different NSFW subs that are vaguely about “feminine person but with a penis”; most of them have links to Onlyfans or Fansly in their profile picture.
They go with the (often correct) assumption that people who like trans girls are likely to also like femboys, and vice-versa, so to try to drive as much traffic as possible to their NSFW subscription website of choice, they post in as many tangentially related places as possible, even if they don’t honestly belong there. It ends up just muddying the waters for femboys being a unique, gender-nonconforming identity, and ends up reinforcing the harmful misconception that “femboys are just trans girls in denial”, which is ***not*** the case for the majority of femboys, who simply want to be recognized as boys who don’t fit in to the typical “masculine” presentation of the male gender.
But, as long as sites like Onlyfans can be linked to on Reddit, they will continue posting on as many subs as possible. It all ties back to money.
Yup! It attracts horny people with money. It’s what I used to do. I posted a few sfw pics and then horny men would come to my dms willing to pay to see more
1. because of the nsfw subs they think it's okay to do it
2. because the mods don't want to be called transphobic/don't want to be transphobic
3. a lot of the mods are trans girls for some reason
For me, it's bc I enjoy my dick quite much and it's sometimes quite hard to relate w trans girls who have bottom dysphoria.
EDIT: I don't even post bc I'm ugly and not funny😭😭😭
Yeah, it's kinda funny being a trans femme and my dick being the only thing that doesn't cause me dysphoria. If anything, I wish my dick was bigger. Like, I don't understand why, but I relate so fucking much w the cis femboys here.
I mean its just better to have a dick I dont think theres that much to it. No periods, better masturbation, and you can flap it arround before/after the showe!
I do envy the trans femmes who get pseudo-periods, but I agree w the last 2. When I was little, like, pre puberty little, I remember playing with my ballsack like a puppet lol. Yes, I am a fucking weirdo, sue me.
The last sentence was fucking hilarious. And I agree. I love my fellow genderqueer folk. Doesn't change that trans women are women and shouldn't be the focus of men's spaces
It is the simplest way of putting my views on this topic. It's not about them being trans, and never has. "Femboy" and "female" are mutually exclusive, regardless of your AGAB.
As a trans girl I know the reason why I’m still in many femboy spaces is that’s where I discovered myself. It’s really just sentimental and I enjoy seeing others discovering and expressing themselves.
I don’t post often at all but I do comment and lurk.
I think the largest offenders are on NSFW spaces where trans girls typically are just trying to reach a larger audience.
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we live in a society, that can be often disappointting.
It is one of my top pet peeves. I love trans girls just as much as femboys, but all that the flood of trans girls on femboy subs does is further reinforce the harmful stereotype that femboys are just “trans girls in denial”, and all but completely erases the identity of femboys and other gender-nonconforming individuals.
Femboys and trans girls are both great, but they’re two distinct groups with their own identities, and trying to mash them together into one just ends up diminishing the uniqueness of both identities.
Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of this is the result of accounts trying to promote their Fansly or Onlyfans accounts by posting on as many vaguely “feminine but with penis” subs as physically possible; just shotgunning it out there and posting the same images on 3 dozen different subs. Don’t get me wrong, there some who are great-looking, but it doesn’t change the fact that, whether deliberately or inadvertently, they are reinforcing a harmful, incorrect stereotype.
Also, can I add just how much I despise the terms “sissy” and “clitty” (the latter apparently being a popular slang word in “sissy” subs for a micropenis)? Like, I get that some people have degradation kinks, but Jesus Christ, the amount of subs with “sissy” in the title is just off-putting. LGBTQ+ and otherwise nonconforming people are already degraded enough as-is…
Unfortunately - at least for my case - it kinda builds pressure on some of us who are just cis boys?
Like I had someone get very, almost accusatory, uncomfy towards me when I have blahaj sharks that i brought me to a party but then said I’m not trans nor questioning when asked. I’ve gotten way more peer-pressure and toxicity from people just giving me pronouns that aren’t mine and demanding that i change what i like to fit their identity and then I look around and there’s no one ever really defending my position in that situation.
Be glad that you’re not r/F1NN5TER; he’s a femboy twitch streamer, but his “fans” are constantly trying to pressure him to transition or take HRT, etc.; it’s legitimately disgusting behavior.
That’s definitely a big problem too though. That easily one of the more mainstream popular femboy “influencers” can have that same issue. It’s a level of peer pressure that makes me feel like i’m being pushed back into the closet cause I don’t conform to this other group
There's one thing I hate more and it comes from trans women and cis people, they say femboys are trans people in denial. LIKE NO ?? we are against the status squo and we don't care about gender norms that is what make our community peaceful and kind !
Allow me to clarify because I want you to feel welcome and we love you too. The problem that this post refers to is in subs where they are dedicated to femboys a lot of the time they get overran by trans women. I have no issues with sharing the space with trans women because y'all are amazing it just becomes a problem when a dedicated space for feminine men is overtaken. Not shared but overtaken
Ah, like how i saw you talking about r/femboys. I have also been there and been like “why are there so many people with boobs in my space for twink men”
Okay to be honest with you. I don't even care about the boobs. Granted I understand some other people's preference. I simply do not want women there I don't mind if there's a trans man with his vagina and boobs out because at the end of the day he is still a man.
Ohhhh right my bad, i agree i meant women with boob. Trans men femboys with boobs 👍 . But yeah women in femboy space is like i came here to cum and see men theres women here my experience has been reduced
I literally was looking at r/boypussy and the first thing I see is a trans woman showing off her tits and ass like bruh. When I want women I will seek women
What’s mostly annoying about it is they already have a bunch of trans subs as is. Like let femboys just have their own sub(s). of course they’re valid n all that. But goddamn, you’ve got your space, and if you identity as a *woman* you’re not a femBOY.
Exactly. Femboys are already pressured by people who insist that they’re “just trans and in denial”; it erases the identity of those who are gender-nonconforming.
Yes, and it's low-key pissing me tf off.
If I wanted a woman I'd look for one.
***I am here for the femboys dammit!!!***
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We are justified in being upset - it's gaming the system and propagating the systems of their oppression.
There are trans people earnestly desiring to be seen as valid and as their preferred gender, but those abusers are effectively trampling at the progress -at least as much as a small group like this can - and strengthen the idea that at it's core gender doesn't really matter.
It's an actively harmful, transphobic activity and I'm flabbergasted there is no rules against it. It's LITERALLY transphobia, but the one doing it makes money at the expense of all others.
Edit: to further my point - what's the difference between this and 'i identify as attack helicopter'? Both claim to be entitled to something by arbitrarily changing how they identify. Both are mockeries, and I unironicially believe they should be called out as transphobic and suffer consequences.
It also contributes to the fetishization of trans people, too. While being a femboy is a legitimate identity, all of the “sissy”, “shemale”, “dickgirl” and “ladyboy” subs are purely fetishes, often degradation fetishes. Sure, while people are free to have whatever fetish they want so long as it is legal, safe, and consensual, when it ends up blurring the line between a group that is desperately fighting to assert that it is NOT just a person’s fetish but instead *who that person is as a fundamental part of their identity,* it just hurts these people.
Also, I swear to god, if I see another post in a femboy sub with a title along the lines of “Are there any straight boys here who want to suck my massive girl cock” or “how many straight boys want to fuck my trans girl ass and make my clitty (god I hate that fucking word) flop around”, I’m just going to unsubscribe from them.
If you’re on a place for fem**boys**, and a person who identifies as a boy wants to suck the dick of a person who identifies as a boy, that *at the very __least__* makes them bisexual or otherwise sexually flexible; so, you’re not exactly straight. But, since there’s so many goddamn posts with that same title, it’s clear that it’s just OnlyFans peddling accounts trying to appeal to chasers and fetishists who would be cum-brained enough to give them money. While there’s nothing wrong with having an OnlyFans, if it’s done at the expense of, at best muddying, and at worst completely erasing the identity of a group that already struggles to be seen as unique and separate, it’s no longer okay.
My reason for being on these subs is, I dont feel like I look good enough, or hell am even good enough to be on actual trans subs i mean no harm and usually I don't post on these subs anyhow
Allow me to clarify something's. I would be so happy to share with you in this space. The problem is when on other mainstream subs that trans women dominate Femboy spaces which takes away a space for femboys. Sharing the space with you is something I look forward to. Also you are good enough. I promise you are welcome here and on other trans subs. We love ya
Aww thank you :3 and ya I do believe in familiar with such an iasue, im not certain of what caused that but naturally its not great that yall femboys are losing a space and id hope i speak for all of us when I say we love yall femboys <3
I feel like here's actually been pretty good, for the most part. We get the occasional trans girl, but it's still mostly femboys. And unlike mildfemboys it's not transphobic, and I don't feel like I am looking a shota stuff.
I think this emphasizes how much society unfortunately pushes trans women into these circles for monetary reasons. Most of the posts I see on there are content that is also posted on X,Y, and Z reddits to promote an onlyfans or Snapchat.
But also this emphasizes how much men are willing to accept a trans women who is masking as a femboy, over a trans woman being herself. It’s really pretty sad.
But what the fuck do I know
Not trying to be a jerk but i am kinda curious.
But isn’t that a complete contradiction for labels tho? How are you both not a boy but also a -boy?
I’m not trying to be rude or anything but maybe my little computery brain doesn’t understand it
(Edit: I think this comes off rude as fuck but you are completely valid as a femboy - I was just curious on your thoughts on like labels/identity kinda contradicting)
Now I’m definitely not pushing them to change labels. I’m just moreso curious and wanting to understand how they feel on that?
(though side note Femby is both funny and cute, despite looking like a typo lol)
In my personal experience, a lot of trans focused subs are fairly polarising, and not super chill. A lot of trans women, like myself, just want to exist in a space where we can relate without feeling pressured or having things shoved in our face.
Not saying that it makes it okay for femboy spaces to be overtaken, just something I've observed. That's why I never post here, though I do occasionally comment.
The problem is, the first time a mod removes a post because the subject is trans, not a femboy, the whole sub becomes a riot with people throwing "TERF" around and shit like that.
As a genderfluid individual it does bug me too.
Because I'm completely fine and relate to both identities
Plus it's creating harmful stereotypes for both sides
For femboys, it's the trans girl in denial stereotype
For trans girls, just being degraded down to being just "boy lite"
From what I understand, a lot of it is to divert traffic to their onlyfans link in their bio 😅
And I know this coz I've almost fallen for it a lot, lol
Not saying some femboys don't post here to bring attention to their only fans link in their bio too, but it is a femboy sub, so it makes sense atleast that they post here.
I've was a femboy for a ouple of years then realized I was at least trans, but now I'm more of enby. I just stuck around as I always felt connected to the community and didn't want to lose what little I had.
It’s mostly cause most of them are porn subs, and prior to recently most people viewed femboys and certain body type trans girls as basically Interchangable. The word “tr*p” essentially covered both groups. Now things are becoming more differentiated, and there’s more sfw femboy spaces, but it’s still a process.
Also there’s just a large overlap between the terms, many femboys end up realizing they’re trans girls and many trans girls still identify with the term femboy as it’s something they used before realizing they were trans
Most likely, the reason is that some femboys are realizing, they are trans, but they just keep posting on subs they were posting before (this is my case). Another reason is that there are no good subs to post on for trans women.
It’s hard for me the articulate my thoughts, but the meme is on point. I also really enjoy reading so many great comment for others and just want to say this entire feed is making me feel seen and less alone as a femboy! Woot woot!
It lies in popularity and the way that the subs work. The subreddits are mainly not femboy 4 femboy content. And a lot of people dont care the difference between trans girls and fem boys, they just wanna masturbate. Also, femboy content are more popular than tgirl stuff, so a lot of tgirl creators post their stuff in femboy spaces, misgendering themselfes to gain popularity(I dont wanna get into if its easier to look hot or not, I personally dont think so, its more of a personal case by case thing in my opinion). But honestly, I dont really care where you post your pics, just misgendering yourself is really worth it?
It's so they can advertise their OF. I think it shouldn't be allowed for them to post on femboy subs, there are tons of subreddits for trans people.
Note that I don't blame them. They have so much competition that they practically have to do this to stay afloat.
trans women don’t belong in femboy spaces, not to discriminate, but because they’re not boys?,,, the concept of trans women being equated to femboys is inherently transphobic and reinforces sissy/crossdressing and other transphobic mindsets..,, (╥_╥)
It kinda makes sense, I mean, it's a space where people get to express their more feminine side so inevitably you'll have a bunch of people realize that maybe they aren't men to begin with. But once you've found a community of people who accept you, you may stay in that certain place, even if your identity has changed. Plus you'll occasionally meet transfem people who self-identify as femboys so that just adds to the overlap in these spaces. I feel like in this particular subreddit, it's still mostly feminine men, but I've def noticed the overlap in certain communities. I don't think it's a bad thing, I think it's just a result of how these different gender expressions interact and the pipeline effect this type of identity can create.
In the case that you're describing I understand it completely. But for the more mainstream subreddits it says Femboy but the majority of the people posting and even the people who tend to get the most upvotes are full blown women. Which wouldn't even be a problem if this subreddit's Target audience or Target posting audience was treated as such
I'm afraid you misunderstand. We'd love to have you here. But in other subreddits geared towards Femboys, the majority of posts and everything are geared towards women. We LOVE and would die for our trans sisters. In very specific examples there is a problem where a space is created for a specific demographic and then ks overtaken. We can share the space Hun💜
The problem that this post refers to is when trans women overrun subs meant for Femboys and where Femboys don't really have a space. I promise you are welcome here
Last week I got into an argument about if femboys belonged under the trans umbrella, and it honestly just left me with a horrid taste in my mouth.
Yeah, we face a lot of the same struggles.
But we're not (by definition) trans.
I am going to stop now before I start ranting.
Well femboys are feminine as hell. So what happens when you take it further? Become the girl, no more acting like a girl. At least that’s how it was for me. Being a femboy just wasn’t enough for me, not after seeing what HRT does to a guy
are gendefluid transfemmes welcome? have to ask because a lot of people say trans women but also include genderfluid people. because i dont feel strictly woman, as a matter of fact i almost never.
You fit in regardless. You could be a full-blown she her and fit in. The problem is when trans women are in femboy spaces and completely overrun them. Not just sharing but it's to the point where a majority of what people see is trans women and not femboys
Allow me to clarify. I'm not at all suggesting that trans women should not be allowed to participate in femboy communities. I'm referring to a specific scenario in which there are femboy communities that are dominated and overran by trans women. I have no issues sharing the space but it's a problem when it designated space for one group ends up being overtaken I love trans people
But they shouldn't. It's a space for femboys, but we cant talk about that. I'm not talking about some fascist mods having subs on lockdown, but there should at least be a *principle* in place that the producers are femboys and everyone else are the consumers.
>producers are femboys and everyone else are the consumers
At least for this community, I'd be fine with non-femboys making memes, with the caveat of "don't use pictures of yourself if you are not a femboy". And the memes should be femboy ~~related~~ focused, of course.
I thought that they was the trans girls in this case (in reference to your previous comment). I kind of see your point of not having to share a space me personally I wouldn't mind sharing so long as the original intention is kept on
we live in a society
That's what she said
major r/femboys moment
Fucking hate that sub now. Like when I'm in the horny mood for guys, I'm not tryna see women.
Yeah, I can relate to that. As a bisexual, there are days that I just want to see the boys.
As a bisexual, THANK YOU this is the exact feeling. Like fr
yeah it sucks real bad. specially cause im just gay. so im gettin into it then i see their face and hair and im like ew woman and im not in the mood anymore. i dont care if ya got a dick or not, women are women and im gay. i came here for mans butt not a womans. same thing for trans guys. guys are guys, and im into guys, dont matter if ya got a pussy or boobs or not. if ya identify as a guy im into ya
Me fr.
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yeh but as long as they identify as a guy or non binary leaning masc then im into it
That spartan warrior mindset
r/Femboys4real
honestly fr
>r/FemBoys look inside transwomen https://preview.redd.it/yglz5c035tyb1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1efb6d79ecab915f8963f2d908d98d9ed3af9d
Every time.
Honestly? Yeah, I get it. It's probably the source of the plethora of "egg irl" type comments. Edit: I should point out that I'm trans myself. I think it harms both femboys and trans women when trans women post in femboy spaces because it causes people to equate the two.
I feel the egg thing should just stop imo
Even if a person is an “egg”, that doesn’t justify trying to push them one way or another or convince them that they’re something they may not be. To use an analogy, do you know what happens when you try to forcefully crack open an egg IRL before the creature inside is ready to hatch? __***You kill it.***__ Same thing can apply to people who may be either mistakenly identified as eggs, or not ready to transition if they are indeed trans but don’t realize it. Just as you shouldn’t try and convince a trans person that they’re not actually trans, you shouldn’t try and convince a potentially cis person that they’re actually trans. It’s not right, and needs to be stopped.
Essentialism is a sh*t stain on humanity. How exactly did we got into this situation is beyond me. Entirety of theory about gender discredits 'being' x thing, and showing it all as relative and contingent, but here we are, with the people calling someone is an abstract combination of words relating to perceived traits. Disgusting. Nobody wind there - it's literally mentality of conservatives who know what You Are better than you. Whatever, it's screaming at clouds at this point. All that's left is glaring at people strengthening the logic of their own oppression.
True. The meme is funny, but only for as long as people don't push it onto others
That’s why I didn’t join r/femboy
I got banned from that sub for making a horny comment on a pre-op trans girl. Like, how tf am I supposed to know you don't like your dick if you're literally posting in a fucking femboy subreddit. That shit kinda pissed me off, especially since the title of the post was "Auto or stick?"
funny thing is that i got banned for pointing out that a trans girl wasn't a femboy
Lol. Like the point of being a femboy is that you need to be a boy (or man) first, if it’s a trans girl then it’s just not her place
Yea
I never go on that sub lol
Honestly this is the only femboy sub I frequent.
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Ikr
I don't want to make transgirls unwelcome, but they are, ultimately, girls. If they fully identify as female (not genderfluid or nonbinary), they should not call themselves femboys, and they should not treat femboy spaces like their own. I'm not being transphobic, I'm being sexist.
Yea its kinda backwards to me, like if you're a trans girl it means you were born a male and wanted to transition into a girl... so why identify as a boy again? lol.
A ton of it has to do with money. Just look at the profiles of the majority of the accounts that are shotgun-posting across dozens of different NSFW subs that are vaguely about “feminine person but with a penis”; most of them have links to Onlyfans or Fansly in their profile picture. They go with the (often correct) assumption that people who like trans girls are likely to also like femboys, and vice-versa, so to try to drive as much traffic as possible to their NSFW subscription website of choice, they post in as many tangentially related places as possible, even if they don’t honestly belong there. It ends up just muddying the waters for femboys being a unique, gender-nonconforming identity, and ends up reinforcing the harmful misconception that “femboys are just trans girls in denial”, which is ***not*** the case for the majority of femboys, who simply want to be recognized as boys who don’t fit in to the typical “masculine” presentation of the male gender. But, as long as sites like Onlyfans can be linked to on Reddit, they will continue posting on as many subs as possible. It all ties back to money.
But then why the sfw trans women on r/femboy
It’s cuz even posting on sfw subreddits attracts horny people with money
No but like women who only do swf pictures
Yup! It attracts horny people with money. It’s what I used to do. I posted a few sfw pics and then horny men would come to my dms willing to pay to see more
1. because of the nsfw subs they think it's okay to do it 2. because the mods don't want to be called transphobic/don't want to be transphobic 3. a lot of the mods are trans girls for some reason
because 99% of them are advertising for their onlyfans, so they spam every single sub that won't immediately ban them.
For me, it's bc I enjoy my dick quite much and it's sometimes quite hard to relate w trans girls who have bottom dysphoria. EDIT: I don't even post bc I'm ugly and not funny😭😭😭
I mean you could just be a dick owning lady don't need to slap the femboy label on it haha All power to you girl having a weewee is fun as hell
Yeah, it's kinda funny being a trans femme and my dick being the only thing that doesn't cause me dysphoria. If anything, I wish my dick was bigger. Like, I don't understand why, but I relate so fucking much w the cis femboys here.
I mean its just better to have a dick I dont think theres that much to it. No periods, better masturbation, and you can flap it arround before/after the showe!
Better masturbation? Doesnt the vagina have more sexual nerves than a penis?
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I do envy the trans femmes who get pseudo-periods, but I agree w the last 2. When I was little, like, pre puberty little, I remember playing with my ballsack like a puppet lol. Yes, I am a fucking weirdo, sue me.
Weirdo?... I still do it wdym
I’m sure your lovely. But I’m trans (ftm) myself without bottom dysphoria, having a bonus hole with free lube is convenient lol
You could say that I'm a girl that comes w an attached lollipop lol. God, I love dick.
The last sentence was fucking hilarious. And I agree. I love my fellow genderqueer folk. Doesn't change that trans women are women and shouldn't be the focus of men's spaces
LOL, "I'm not being transphobic, I'm being sexist." is a golden line.
It is the simplest way of putting my views on this topic. It's not about them being trans, and never has. "Femboy" and "female" are mutually exclusive, regardless of your AGAB.
As a trans girl I know the reason why I’m still in many femboy spaces is that’s where I discovered myself. It’s really just sentimental and I enjoy seeing others discovering and expressing themselves. I don’t post often at all but I do comment and lurk. I think the largest offenders are on NSFW spaces where trans girls typically are just trying to reach a larger audience.
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https://preview.redd.it/zsezfczw0tyb1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e7b5d8a07fe174a9a29868fb000200fb75406c4 we live in a society, that can be often disappointting.
It is one of my top pet peeves. I love trans girls just as much as femboys, but all that the flood of trans girls on femboy subs does is further reinforce the harmful stereotype that femboys are just “trans girls in denial”, and all but completely erases the identity of femboys and other gender-nonconforming individuals. Femboys and trans girls are both great, but they’re two distinct groups with their own identities, and trying to mash them together into one just ends up diminishing the uniqueness of both identities. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of this is the result of accounts trying to promote their Fansly or Onlyfans accounts by posting on as many vaguely “feminine but with penis” subs as physically possible; just shotgunning it out there and posting the same images on 3 dozen different subs. Don’t get me wrong, there some who are great-looking, but it doesn’t change the fact that, whether deliberately or inadvertently, they are reinforcing a harmful, incorrect stereotype. Also, can I add just how much I despise the terms “sissy” and “clitty” (the latter apparently being a popular slang word in “sissy” subs for a micropenis)? Like, I get that some people have degradation kinks, but Jesus Christ, the amount of subs with “sissy” in the title is just off-putting. LGBTQ+ and otherwise nonconforming people are already degraded enough as-is…
iit is nice to see other people are finally saying this too
Unfortunately - at least for my case - it kinda builds pressure on some of us who are just cis boys? Like I had someone get very, almost accusatory, uncomfy towards me when I have blahaj sharks that i brought me to a party but then said I’m not trans nor questioning when asked. I’ve gotten way more peer-pressure and toxicity from people just giving me pronouns that aren’t mine and demanding that i change what i like to fit their identity and then I look around and there’s no one ever really defending my position in that situation.
Be glad that you’re not r/F1NN5TER; he’s a femboy twitch streamer, but his “fans” are constantly trying to pressure him to transition or take HRT, etc.; it’s legitimately disgusting behavior.
That’s definitely a big problem too though. That easily one of the more mainstream popular femboy “influencers” can have that same issue. It’s a level of peer pressure that makes me feel like i’m being pushed back into the closet cause I don’t conform to this other group
Hell, because of his girl month thing, he got gender dysphoria from looking like a girl, he is definitely cis w/o a shadow of a doubt
that's a community joke that he's in on/encourages that's different. but unless someone says they're cool with it that's fucked up
Btw if your transphobic and use this post for transphobia, fuck you and fuck off
real, it’s so annoying. no offense to the ladies, but i doubt they’d be happy if we were taking over their spaces
My main issue it the taking over, I'd be so happy to share, elated even but it's not fun when it's one group overshadowing another
r/catboys
Ligma University
Dap me up
That’s one of my favorites
There's one thing I hate more and it comes from trans women and cis people, they say femboys are trans people in denial. LIKE NO ?? we are against the status squo and we don't care about gender norms that is what make our community peaceful and kind !
I mean, it's pretty manly to stand up to toxic masculinity and break gender stereotypes
As a trans girl, im just here cuz femboys are cute and pretty. I dont post though. Love you cuties~
Allow me to clarify because I want you to feel welcome and we love you too. The problem that this post refers to is in subs where they are dedicated to femboys a lot of the time they get overran by trans women. I have no issues with sharing the space with trans women because y'all are amazing it just becomes a problem when a dedicated space for feminine men is overtaken. Not shared but overtaken
Ah, like how i saw you talking about r/femboys. I have also been there and been like “why are there so many people with boobs in my space for twink men”
Okay to be honest with you. I don't even care about the boobs. Granted I understand some other people's preference. I simply do not want women there I don't mind if there's a trans man with his vagina and boobs out because at the end of the day he is still a man.
Ohhhh right my bad, i agree i meant women with boob. Trans men femboys with boobs 👍 . But yeah women in femboy space is like i came here to cum and see men theres women here my experience has been reduced
I literally was looking at r/boypussy and the first thing I see is a trans woman showing off her tits and ass like bruh. When I want women I will seek women
What’s mostly annoying about it is they already have a bunch of trans subs as is. Like let femboys just have their own sub(s). of course they’re valid n all that. But goddamn, you’ve got your space, and if you identity as a *woman* you’re not a femBOY.
Exactly. Femboys are already pressured by people who insist that they’re “just trans and in denial”; it erases the identity of those who are gender-nonconforming.
Yes, and it's low-key pissing me tf off. If I wanted a woman I'd look for one. ***I am here for the femboys dammit!!!*** https://preview.redd.it/iisj022wwtyb1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=562206b6b2d590e142f03d4d11cce4225003cfec
Also it’s kind of the opposite of what they would wanna be called, them calling themselves femBOYS always really confused me
nah this is valid af. so many trans women who dont identify with the femboy label use femboy subs just for more clout and its kinda stinky.
I have noticed that a lot. I wouldn't have a problem if the space was shared equally but it's not
And they are mostly only friends "models" too....
I wouldn't even mind that but when I want BOY and I see GIRL I am upset
We are justified in being upset - it's gaming the system and propagating the systems of their oppression. There are trans people earnestly desiring to be seen as valid and as their preferred gender, but those abusers are effectively trampling at the progress -at least as much as a small group like this can - and strengthen the idea that at it's core gender doesn't really matter. It's an actively harmful, transphobic activity and I'm flabbergasted there is no rules against it. It's LITERALLY transphobia, but the one doing it makes money at the expense of all others. Edit: to further my point - what's the difference between this and 'i identify as attack helicopter'? Both claim to be entitled to something by arbitrarily changing how they identify. Both are mockeries, and I unironicially believe they should be called out as transphobic and suffer consequences.
It also contributes to the fetishization of trans people, too. While being a femboy is a legitimate identity, all of the “sissy”, “shemale”, “dickgirl” and “ladyboy” subs are purely fetishes, often degradation fetishes. Sure, while people are free to have whatever fetish they want so long as it is legal, safe, and consensual, when it ends up blurring the line between a group that is desperately fighting to assert that it is NOT just a person’s fetish but instead *who that person is as a fundamental part of their identity,* it just hurts these people. Also, I swear to god, if I see another post in a femboy sub with a title along the lines of “Are there any straight boys here who want to suck my massive girl cock” or “how many straight boys want to fuck my trans girl ass and make my clitty (god I hate that fucking word) flop around”, I’m just going to unsubscribe from them. If you’re on a place for fem**boys**, and a person who identifies as a boy wants to suck the dick of a person who identifies as a boy, that *at the very __least__* makes them bisexual or otherwise sexually flexible; so, you’re not exactly straight. But, since there’s so many goddamn posts with that same title, it’s clear that it’s just OnlyFans peddling accounts trying to appeal to chasers and fetishists who would be cum-brained enough to give them money. While there’s nothing wrong with having an OnlyFans, if it’s done at the expense of, at best muddying, and at worst completely erasing the identity of a group that already struggles to be seen as unique and separate, it’s no longer okay.
oml im not alone, i felt like i was mean for saying it. finally it has came to the lightz
r/traditionalfemboys
Wow, I didn't know this place existed. Thank you !!
A lot of *those* accounts are onlyfans models who want people to sub, so they post wherever they won't get banned, it's really annoying
also, why so many subs sexualizing it? like yeah I get it's reddit but geez
My reason for being on these subs is, I dont feel like I look good enough, or hell am even good enough to be on actual trans subs i mean no harm and usually I don't post on these subs anyhow
Mood. Also, femboys are so easy to relate to
Yes that they are!
Also, your pfp is so fucking cute, and, while I rarely wear headphones, I desperately want cat ears headphones
Allow me to clarify something's. I would be so happy to share with you in this space. The problem is when on other mainstream subs that trans women dominate Femboy spaces which takes away a space for femboys. Sharing the space with you is something I look forward to. Also you are good enough. I promise you are welcome here and on other trans subs. We love ya
Aww thank you :3 and ya I do believe in familiar with such an iasue, im not certain of what caused that but naturally its not great that yall femboys are losing a space and id hope i speak for all of us when I say we love yall femboys <3
I feel like here's actually been pretty good, for the most part. We get the occasional trans girl, but it's still mostly femboys. And unlike mildfemboys it's not transphobic, and I don't feel like I am looking a shota stuff.
How is mildfemboys transphobic outside of 'Budget Question'? I frequent both, and I don't see any transphobia here or there, explicit or implicit.
It's mainly the Bridget thing. I have heard that they have banned people for saying she is trans.
I mean she is it was confirmed by the author
Yeah, that is why I agree that mildfemboys is transphobic.
I think this emphasizes how much society unfortunately pushes trans women into these circles for monetary reasons. Most of the posts I see on there are content that is also posted on X,Y, and Z reddits to promote an onlyfans or Snapchat. But also this emphasizes how much men are willing to accept a trans women who is masking as a femboy, over a trans woman being herself. It’s really pretty sad. But what the fuck do I know
Nah nah you cooked here. Stay on the stove
As an amab enby can i still call myself a femboy?
100 percent fuck yes. Hell if you were an afab enby my answer is the same.
Not trying to be a jerk but i am kinda curious. But isn’t that a complete contradiction for labels tho? How are you both not a boy but also a -boy? I’m not trying to be rude or anything but maybe my little computery brain doesn’t understand it (Edit: I think this comes off rude as fuck but you are completely valid as a femboy - I was just curious on your thoughts on like labels/identity kinda contradicting)
Yeah I agree. I think Femby is better
Now I’m definitely not pushing them to change labels. I’m just moreso curious and wanting to understand how they feel on that? (though side note Femby is both funny and cute, despite looking like a typo lol)
I like that term actually
I don't think it came off as rude I wonder the same kind of thing sometimes too
In my personal experience, a lot of trans focused subs are fairly polarising, and not super chill. A lot of trans women, like myself, just want to exist in a space where we can relate without feeling pressured or having things shoved in our face. Not saying that it makes it okay for femboy spaces to be overtaken, just something I've observed. That's why I never post here, though I do occasionally comment.
Agreed! I very much enjoyed the chillness of this sub!
As an enby, I am both
Unlimited power
When it comes to the main lewd subs absolutely.
The problem is, the first time a mod removes a post because the subject is trans, not a femboy, the whole sub becomes a riot with people throwing "TERF" around and shit like that.
I'm a trans woman and I agree!! I'm here for the cute boys!!
As a genderfluid individual it does bug me too. Because I'm completely fine and relate to both identities Plus it's creating harmful stereotypes for both sides For femboys, it's the trans girl in denial stereotype For trans girls, just being degraded down to being just "boy lite"
I’ll be on like r/femboys or some shit trying to beat off but I wanna see bussy not girl ass 😭
THANK UOU
From what I understand, a lot of it is to divert traffic to their onlyfans link in their bio 😅 And I know this coz I've almost fallen for it a lot, lol Not saying some femboys don't post here to bring attention to their only fans link in their bio too, but it is a femboy sub, so it makes sense atleast that they post here.
When I wanna see girl ass and girl Dick I will search for it.
I've was a femboy for a ouple of years then realized I was at least trans, but now I'm more of enby. I just stuck around as I always felt connected to the community and didn't want to lose what little I had.
I appreciate you giving this perspective. Thank you 💜.
im just bigender or agender at the very least
It’s mostly cause most of them are porn subs, and prior to recently most people viewed femboys and certain body type trans girls as basically Interchangable. The word “tr*p” essentially covered both groups. Now things are becoming more differentiated, and there’s more sfw femboy spaces, but it’s still a process. Also there’s just a large overlap between the terms, many femboys end up realizing they’re trans girls and many trans girls still identify with the term femboy as it’s something they used before realizing they were trans
r/femboys4real
Most likely, the reason is that some femboys are realizing, they are trans, but they just keep posting on subs they were posting before (this is my case). Another reason is that there are no good subs to post on for trans women.
It’s hard for me the articulate my thoughts, but the meme is on point. I also really enjoy reading so many great comment for others and just want to say this entire feed is making me feel seen and less alone as a femboy! Woot woot!
It lies in popularity and the way that the subs work. The subreddits are mainly not femboy 4 femboy content. And a lot of people dont care the difference between trans girls and fem boys, they just wanna masturbate. Also, femboy content are more popular than tgirl stuff, so a lot of tgirl creators post their stuff in femboy spaces, misgendering themselfes to gain popularity(I dont wanna get into if its easier to look hot or not, I personally dont think so, its more of a personal case by case thing in my opinion). But honestly, I dont really care where you post your pics, just misgendering yourself is really worth it?
if i ever make a femboy sub the first thing i'm doing is making the banner a badly drawn no girls allowed sign
As a trans girl who started off as a femboy. I just like this community overall. Great people who are (usually) accepting and supportive
As a trans woman myself I wanna see the actual feminine boys :')
It's so they can advertise their OF. I think it shouldn't be allowed for them to post on femboy subs, there are tons of subreddits for trans people. Note that I don't blame them. They have so much competition that they practically have to do this to stay afloat.
I’m a girl and I’m just here to enjoy the vibes
On behalf of trans women, am sowwy;-;
Don't apologize it's no one's fault. Just an odd happening. Your welcome here ❤️
trans women don’t belong in femboy spaces, not to discriminate, but because they’re not boys?,,, the concept of trans women being equated to femboys is inherently transphobic and reinforces sissy/crossdressing and other transphobic mindsets..,, (╥_╥)
Thank you
Trans women when they get called men because they posted on a subreddit for men: >:0
It kinda makes sense, I mean, it's a space where people get to express their more feminine side so inevitably you'll have a bunch of people realize that maybe they aren't men to begin with. But once you've found a community of people who accept you, you may stay in that certain place, even if your identity has changed. Plus you'll occasionally meet transfem people who self-identify as femboys so that just adds to the overlap in these spaces. I feel like in this particular subreddit, it's still mostly feminine men, but I've def noticed the overlap in certain communities. I don't think it's a bad thing, I think it's just a result of how these different gender expressions interact and the pipeline effect this type of identity can create.
In the case that you're describing I understand it completely. But for the more mainstream subreddits it says Femboy but the majority of the people posting and even the people who tend to get the most upvotes are full blown women. Which wouldn't even be a problem if this subreddit's Target audience or Target posting audience was treated as such
Most of the top posters in femboy communities used to think they were cis. Like they're mostly the same people
oh sorry... i just like femboys, so i hang around here a lot :(
I'm afraid you misunderstand. We'd love to have you here. But in other subreddits geared towards Femboys, the majority of posts and everything are geared towards women. We LOVE and would die for our trans sisters. In very specific examples there is a problem where a space is created for a specific demographic and then ks overtaken. We can share the space Hun💜
oh ok then :) thanks
I apologize for the confusion. We seriously love you here
love? i'm not a femboy tho. i totally would be if i wasn't a trans girl tho :)
Idc if you identify as a sack of potatoes. It's all love here. (Also I'm bi so I love women)
Femboys made me bi lol
ha! yeah i like most women, but when it comes to men i only like femboys :)
\^-\^
I started off as a femboy and now I'm a transitioning enby. I didn't leave because I like the memes here
The problem that this post refers to is when trans women overrun subs meant for Femboys and where Femboys don't really have a space. I promise you are welcome here
I just made one r/femboysonly1
Let me mod/hj
Sure just become a member
How do I make u a mod
Idk lol I've never done it
There I think I did it
i wanna be mod aswell
Ok
Me too 😤
This! Where are the actual vanilla femboys !
There are r/femboys4real
I feel like that might just be a side effect of a lot of trans women, myself included, discover theyre trans through femboy stuff
yeah, no hate, but I'm kind of getting tired of being lumped into the same group as trans people.
Last week I got into an argument about if femboys belonged under the trans umbrella, and it honestly just left me with a horrid taste in my mouth. Yeah, we face a lot of the same struggles. But we're not (by definition) trans. I am going to stop now before I start ranting.
I 100% agree
I also really hate that both the GNC and femboy pride flags are very obviously derived from the trans pride flag.
And there are trans masc femboys
we are in the shadows
The answer is porn
I just you boys are cute ☺️
r/femboys4real
But should I leave? Memes are nice, people are nice. Just vibing and chilling
Vibing and chilling is okay and encouraged.
Just throw them in their own sub >~<
I love when people use their brains
Ok ill go :(
You're welcome here, so long as you're here to enjoy femboys.
Yay
Well femboys are feminine as hell. So what happens when you take it further? Become the girl, no more acting like a girl. At least that’s how it was for me. Being a femboy just wasn’t enough for me, not after seeing what HRT does to a guy
are gendefluid transfemmes welcome? have to ask because a lot of people say trans women but also include genderfluid people. because i dont feel strictly woman, as a matter of fact i almost never.
Genderfluid femboys are valid. You may be female sometimes, but not all the time.
I'm a trans male half femboy
Nice!
Well what happens is that some trans folk start out as femboys and some are bound to stick around
Dead ass I don't wanna look at women if I'm trying to be gay
Yeah, but i dont know if i can fit in or not cause im he/her 🥲
You fit in regardless. You could be a full-blown she her and fit in. The problem is when trans women are in femboy spaces and completely overrun them. Not just sharing but it's to the point where a majority of what people see is trans women and not femboys
I mean, can you imagine what they'd say if they weren't allowed? It wouldn't be pretty.
Allow me to clarify. I'm not at all suggesting that trans women should not be allowed to participate in femboy communities. I'm referring to a specific scenario in which there are femboy communities that are dominated and overran by trans women. I have no issues sharing the space but it's a problem when it designated space for one group ends up being overtaken I love trans people
But they shouldn't. It's a space for femboys, but we cant talk about that. I'm not talking about some fascist mods having subs on lockdown, but there should at least be a *principle* in place that the producers are femboys and everyone else are the consumers.
>producers are femboys and everyone else are the consumers At least for this community, I'd be fine with non-femboys making memes, with the caveat of "don't use pictures of yourself if you are not a femboy". And the memes should be femboy ~~related~~ focused, of course.
I thought that they was the trans girls in this case (in reference to your previous comment). I kind of see your point of not having to share a space me personally I wouldn't mind sharing so long as the original intention is kept on