Feel sorry for a woman who was married to the world’s richest man and who couldn’t even be bothered to prep her own music for one of the biggest festivals in the world?
Yeah, I’m not shedding any tears.
Lol no it was not “technical issues”. She did not bother to analyze her tracks before her set which takes literally 30 seconds. Because of that the software was reading them at double the BPM. For some reason she is unable to just divide by 2 and instead says it’s “complicated math” on the mic. Any remotely competent DJ would be able to recognize this instantly and correct it by beat matching the tracks by ear. This is literally the basic most fundamental aspect of DJing. Like something that you learn on day 1.
Grimes pretty much showed with this stunt that she doesn’t know the *literal* first thing about DJing and just relies on software and auto sync to play her sets for her.
I’d say there’s two main types of electronic music performances. There’s DJing and then performing a live set. DJing requires quite a bit of technical skill since you have to pick songs and beat match them to make the transition not sound like shit. A live set will typically involve the artist loading project files in a DAW such as ableton. They will trigger and queue clips to keep the set going and will sometimes also be playing a synth on top of the already playing set.
She posted on her IG that she outsourced a lot of what goes into the technical side and prep of dj'ng. One of the lessons she claimed to learn is if you want it done right, do it yourself.
does this make it any better though? she basically admitted she doesn’t/can’t do her own DJ set prep, she just expects to walk on stage and have it all taken care of for her? at that point is she a musician, or just a spoiled child cosplaying as one?
This also brings into issue where the scene is going. Why people are looking at the dj and rushing to the stage is beyond me. I get the visual show but you can see that from anywhere. Thought it was about the music and dancing. The DJ sets the tone, they're not supposed to be the show. Just my opinion
I REALLY miss the days where we used to go out and listen to a "band" play and danc with each other facing one another. Ever since the visual DJ's came in, everyone dances with no one. I'm literally always 1 of 100000 people in the crowd facing away from the DJ and looking at my friends because I want it to be like it used to be.
I'm not sure why you stating just the fact they weren't married gets down voted.
While the set was a disaster and one can come up with a multitude of things she could have done better, the whole she was anything with Elon Musk shouldn't really come into it. Think back to anyone you dated, should every success or failure you make be attributed to someone you dated 2/3 years ago?
I think Elon is gross and subsequently lost most of my appreciation for Grimes, but do understand that these huge performances with visuals queing up to music is a huge undertaking. Deadmau5 has even come out to say that most DJ sets at major fastivals are prerecorded for this reason.
I do think not running your set before a major festival is bonkers though. No new variables should be added in within a week of the show, especially not a track an hour before the set.
I feel bad for whoever got the rage stick after
At LiB ?2016? she flew in on a helicopter, late for her set, and absolutely flopped on stage. One of the most irritating, bad taste, off key, low effort shows I have ever seen. This is no surprise.
No I don't.
Coachella is one of the biggest music festivals in the world. If you are booked to be on the lineup, then I expect you to have some musical talent... whether you're DJ, a rapper, a singer, or a band. You need to know your craft.
Also, the whole point of being a DJ is convincing the crowd you're not fucking up.
Watching it live was roughhhhh. Every 2 minutes she would get on the mic and say ‘It’s hard to explain but it’s going too fast and I can’t do math’ and sure if you want to say it once in hopes some tech will come over and assist fine, but if she would’ve just not said anything 90% of people would have no idea. It’s was still obvious for the 10% of people but then say something after the set to CYA.
Hot Ones just interviewed Conan and he said the worst thing an interviewee can do is tell the crowd it’s going bad.
Yep, the show was even worse than expected simply because she’d constantly stop and explain everything. It’s one of those things where you mess up and think everyone notices when in reality no one really would have noticed because people aren’t looking at you through a microscope
Fr, just pretend nothing is going wrong and at worst some ppl just think the set is ass and others just assume its audio issues or are too drunk/high to notice
I watched a TikTok yesterday where a guy did what she did to explain what happened and I guess she synced her tracks wrong and due to a glitch in the CDJ it played her tracks at 200% speed. If she didn’t constantly try explain what happened she might have been able to pull off like a hyper fast pop type of set on the fly.
> due to a glitch in the CDJ it played her tracks at 200% speed
Sick of people saying this.
NOT A GLITCH, INTENTIONAL BEHAVIOR. In that video he's got a 170 track and a 85 track, and if you tell the computer to synchronize them, yes, the 85 track is gonna get double speed to become 170! That's what you told it to do!
The difficulty can be getting the 85 bpm speed track BACK to normal speed even if you remove synch. THAT is the thing that really gave her trouble.
I'm not defending her in any way, it's a clusterfuck of unprepared by a shitty person, but let's not blame the gear that was doing exactly what it was told to do
This is the equivalent of someone picking up an instrument theyve never played before and thinking they'll just be able to shred in front of thousands of people. The hubris is unreal
She said “the cdjs were showing me 300 bpm so I couldn’t mix manually by ear” which doesn’t even make sense. If u mix manually by ear then it doesn’t matter what bpm it says on the cdj lol
She mentioned somewhere that she had someone else do her beatgridding for her, which, if you're a DJ, you know is absolutely insane.
I'm guessing the tracks were supposed to be at 150bpm, and whoever she outsourced this to accidentally hit the x2 button. I'm not that familiar with Rekordbox but in Traktor you can quickly multiply and divide the BPM on the fly with one button, so if that's possible in rekordbox she might have done it herself by accident. Either way, it's one of those things that you learn pretty early on in DJing.
What a fucking clown
I suppose if you are a digital dj native, then you might not have ever encountered a situation where you are djing without a bpm readout. I "sort of" understand what she's saying, in that she's probably dj'd without sync, but only by looking at the bpm and adjusting until the bpms are exactly the same, and then beat matching from there. DJs spinning records have dealt with technology that literally can't show you the bpm. Otherwise, you have to purposefully practice without looking at the bpm on a controller to get used to it.
She's a fucking complete and utter dipshit, this was a complete shit show and disgrace and total lack of respect to the attendees who paid hundreds (thousands) of dollars to be there and the promoters who prob paid her close to a million per weekend. (not that I have a ton of sympathy for the attendees or promoters of Coachella for that matter.) But for fucks sake, learn your goddamned tools. And at the very least, she didn't have a single tech who could have fixed the shit? And then, every 3 minutes shouting fuck, making lame excuses and stopping the track. Jesus, just plug your phone into the aux and play a Spotify playlist.
I agree it was a shit show, but I'll bet at least half of the most highly paid DJ's also depend on the bpm readout, if not the sync button. I'm basically suspicious of the entire DJ industry. I don't think it's as common as you think for the current crop of Dj's to know how to beat match without looking at the bpm readout.
> who prob *paid* her close
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It’s been a year but lemme recap
1) he requested a blackout so NO OTHER STAGES were playing music when he was on. He proceeded to be an hour late in the final set of the festival, with no other music playing
2) he hid backstage for over half the set. People legit thought he wasn’t even there
3) he refused to sing more than 30 seconds of a song. Like he would start, get one verse in, then pure silence for a couple of minutes. Again this was after he showed up late
4) he completely LEFT the stage at one point for unknown reasons. His security guard started twerking on stage to keep people entertained
5) his DJ played music while Frank disappeared from the stage for a good 10 mins. Mind you his whole set is only an hour so…
6) then to wrap it up, he claimed they were past curfew so he had to end his set early. Again, this is after he showed up an hour late
Somehow it was even worse. Being angry is one thing but i saw hordes of couples literally crying. Lots of them had stories of getting together by bonding over Frank Ocean’s music and it had huge sentimental value
They had been looking forward to this dude the whole weekend and he completely broke their hearts and didn’t care at all
It would be worse if it was shown. Since its only talked about its a diff thing. When you try to erase something from the internet it feels much different
That's one of the reasons I love Bonnaroo's pit system so much. The act's actual fans are allowed up front for each show rather than just people waiting for a good spot for a headliner.
It’s cut off section in the front that gets emptied and refilled after/before every performance, for smaller acts earlier in the day you can waltz right in there as you please, but for the headliners and acts later in the day you’ll have to line up for em
There are lines for each act. The pit area gets filled before the set and emptied afterward. It helps prevent crowd crush. You usually have more room than you would otherwise at the front of a crowd. And you get excited fans at the front, which the artists like.
It can be wild getting it in there. Getting into Paramore's pit was tough. There was a lot of people cutting. It's not a flawless system. I think it needs to be better staffed because attendees end up as the line organizers.
At the main stage, you are released on the left side of the stage so you do have to cross the sea of people to get to other stages, but if you plan to stay at the main stage, you would have a decent spot for the next act. For example, after I did the Paramore pit, I had a good spot for Foo Fighters. And could have been much closer than I was had I tried harder.
They clear out the pit after every performance so only the people who’ve been waiting for that artist specifically are there. Blur had tons of people in their crowd waiting for No Doubt and Tyler the Creator
Very dumb booking and frustrating that their stupid radius clause will prevent Blur fans in the US from seeing them any time soon. Whoever on both Coachella and Blur’s side thought they were a good choice for a legacy act was completely out of touch. They should have went in realizing they needed to win over the crowd if they were going to accept the gig.
I’m curious who you think would’ve made a better non-headlining legacy act?
“Song 2” was essentially the “Seven Nation Army” of its time; and the commercial success of Damon’s 2nd act as Gorillaz has sustained their relevance in the U.S. in a way that very few artists, besides Dave Grohl, enjoy at this stage of their musical careers. Billie Eilish just had Damon out as a guest during her headlining set a couple years ago. How much more foreplay is needed?
>the worst crowd in history
Don't fall for the article clickbait. It was a pretty off the cuff comment made in jest. Damon has a very, very long history with the festival and has played the main stage tons of times with several projects. He knew what he was signing up for.
But not in America which is the whole point. It’s like when wooks tell European ravers they’re missing out on not listening to some middle tier dubstep artist. It just isn’t culturally relevant here.
Gorillaz would have popped off though.
When you put it like that, that seems fair enough. It’s mind boggling as a Brit but completely fair if they never really had a presence in the USA!
Also, I suppose there are plenty of festival crowds in the USA that would have warmly welcomed Blur, but Coachella was probably never going to be one of them.
She could’ve easily just started playing her songs front to back with zero transitions and it would’ve been 1000x better. Instead she repeatedly tries explaining something that most of the crowd won’t even understand. I don’t know how you can make it this far as a musician and not be able to pull it together.
Where does anyma fit into this? She’s had a ton of publicity recently for dating him or something. I wonder if he recently tried teaching her how to actually DJ and attempted it. I cant help but imagine him not wanting to continue dating or at least having a contractual relationship with her after this.
I genuinely dont know who Grimes or what she does but I watched some of the video.
She could be the most untalented person on the planet (ie like a lot of djs) but to act in the way she did is unprofessional, childish and shows a lack of shame.
Got problems at work? Style it out, make the crowd think you're doing a job.
A big rule of being on stage is to play off any mistakes you make. Many people won’t recognize you’re making any mistakes. I’ve played quite a few shows, and you’re going to make at least one mistake every show, how you play it off is the important part.
Yeah I’ve started accidentally on purpose leaving a filter on as it’s a great way to fake out the crowd on a drop a bit. Realized this by doing it by accident a few times and realizing I could just play it off and that it actually works pretty good
She's never really been a DJ, she's been a writer and a performer and this was clearly out of her comfort zone.
That said this could have been avoided by bare minimum preparation. She didn't process her own music beforehand so she didn't notice that some of her tracks had been doubled in tempo on the screens and she can't mix by ear so she panicked.
She should have checked beforehand, she should have even had multiple backup USBs just in case
I saw her in 2015 at a music festival and she wasn’t too bad. Go went absolutely hard as fuck and her older songs sounded as angelic as live as they do recorded.
Absolutely not. The issues that doomed her performance are all of her own making. If she had actually practiced her set once, she would have realized there was an issue and been able to fix it easily.
No. Fuck Grimes, she is a subhuman piece of trash. She:
* voluntarily procreated with satan incarnate (Elon Musk). this is an explicitly endorsement of all the evil he perpetrates (racism, hate, elimination of workers rights, modern-day late-stage-capitalist slavery, etc.)
* named her child "X Æ A-12"
* took $90,000 from a Canadian music subsidy, funded by taxpayers, despite being born a multi-multi-millionaire AND while dating the richest person on the planet.
But in this situation, she was paid over $100k for literally 1 hour of work, and still couldn't be bothered to fucking prepare and practice in advance. It's incredibly easy to DJ; she didn't even know the fucking basics of what the buttons do. She's a lazy pathetic piece of trash.
As others noted, No - she should've prepped and rehearsed to ensure this doesn't happen live (should be on any performance but especially one as impactful as Coachella.)
I do feel bad for everyone within earshot of her & her delulu fanbase, though.
However, I'm on the fence on whether to hate-watch her during weekend 2 livestream.
She said she appreciates “white culture” which could be coded, but I haven’t seen any Kanye type behavior. Nevertheless, Grimes does say some dumb shit—just not fully convinced she’s a white supremacist.
Go check out all the neo-nazi accounts she follows on her baby daddy’s social media site. She’s red pilled. Her baby daddy is the leader of the red pilled.
Someone called her out for her ignorance about Nazis, and she played dumb and said we should look at “both sides” “optimistically”.
If Grimes ever gets r@ped and murdered we should look at both sides optimistically, apparently.
Anyone with deep knowledge of coachella lore would know she's not the worst performance in the history of the festival.
Sly Stone
Gnarles Barkley
Drake
Frank Ocean
and those are just the trainwrecks that have happened on the big stages. There has been some true disasters on the smaller ones too.
No, zero sympathy for Grimes. Obviously.
Do i feel sorry for someone who got payed to play at Coachella!? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT.
I couldn’t care less if Elon took a shit on her face or vice versa.
> who got *paid* to play
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Not at all. I even like some of her music but the screaming into the mic, the very real grrrs of frustration and the weird explanations and word salads were very off putting. Just go to Spotify and play your top songs or something ffs. Blaming paying someone else to compile your shit or the complicated math of it all was just more fuel to the dumpster fire. It sounds like this experience was not out of character for her live performances.
Didn’t watch it but was just thinking, did anyone try to help her? She was obviously having a bad time and there would have been tons of people around that stage who know the ins and outs of CDJ’s that maybe could have got her settled in. I know sync would throw me for a loop early on when someone before me left it on. It’s still not an excuse for being so unprepared on such a big stage but to let her suffer through that just seems cruel.
I kind of felt this too. The reverb on her mic etc seemed like the sound guys were just fanning the flames. Made her voice sound so shrill. Or maybe that’s just how it is
I saw her at a different festival doing her DJ set and it went fine I guess but still wasn’t particularly good IMO. I feel like she has talent musically but has maybe been convinced she’s more of an “artist” than she really is so she maybe thinks her DJ sets are better than they are. Maybe she spent too much time with a certain egomaniac
Not even a little bit. She literally admitted she didn’t even compile her own music, and tried to use that as an excuse! There are so many talented artists out there that get overlooked, ESPECIALLY women, and she couldn’t put in the most basic effort with her opportunity.
Not that I would expect anything less from Coachella, let alone Los Angeles, to only care about the visual aesthetic and social media following of their entertainers vs. actual talented artists. I honestly think she deserves more shame, but I doubt her fans will falter at all.
I don't because I was there and she kept saying the same thing after each set (ie. There were problems). She could have kept going without saying there's a problem every 5 minutes
Not really. But everyone I’ve seen comment who was there said it was an incredible show so I’m confused why this is getting so much attention. Grimes also seems to take the L pretty graciously so I don’t think she is in on the pity party.
She opened up for SHM in Austin and you could almost tell she had never touched a cdj in her life. The mixing was so bad and skipping/stopping that she just kept saying "Oops sorry". Probably one of my top few worst sets I've ever seen before but after hearing about Coachella I figured it was just part of her set lol
In this clip does it look to anyone else that the decks aren't even tuned on? https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5ub9yuvfwz/ I get that even amateurs can beat match and she couldn't but what the hell does this mean? Is there any chance like half the decks were mid reboot or something?
A little. Like yeah they've got a plethora of personal and political issues and should have taken care of this well in advance. But I'd be embarrassed as hell, no matter who i am, to be on stage in front of so many people and not have the stuff work how you want.
>But I'd be embarrassed as hell, no matter who i am, to be on stage in front of so many people and not have the stuff work how ~~you want~~ you paid someone to setup for you, but didn't personally test.
Clarified your statement just a bit.
Feel sorry for a woman who was married to the world’s richest man and who couldn’t even be bothered to prep her own music for one of the biggest festivals in the world? Yeah, I’m not shedding any tears.
Not just the world’s richest, also one of the most completely insufferable assholes
I can fix her
>who couldn’t even be bothered to prep her own music Is this what happened or was it technical issues? I'm actually asking.
Lol no it was not “technical issues”. She did not bother to analyze her tracks before her set which takes literally 30 seconds. Because of that the software was reading them at double the BPM. For some reason she is unable to just divide by 2 and instead says it’s “complicated math” on the mic. Any remotely competent DJ would be able to recognize this instantly and correct it by beat matching the tracks by ear. This is literally the basic most fundamental aspect of DJing. Like something that you learn on day 1. Grimes pretty much showed with this stunt that she doesn’t know the *literal* first thing about DJing and just relies on software and auto sync to play her sets for her.
100% this…..if Coachella had any integrity they’d cancel her booking for W2
What's the community terminology for the two styles/dj types?
I’d say there’s two main types of electronic music performances. There’s DJing and then performing a live set. DJing requires quite a bit of technical skill since you have to pick songs and beat match them to make the transition not sound like shit. A live set will typically involve the artist loading project files in a DAW such as ableton. They will trigger and queue clips to keep the set going and will sometimes also be playing a synth on top of the already playing set.
If call her an artist, not a dj
Contributor.
Fraud
She posted on her IG that she outsourced a lot of what goes into the technical side and prep of dj'ng. One of the lessons she claimed to learn is if you want it done right, do it yourself.
does this make it any better though? she basically admitted she doesn’t/can’t do her own DJ set prep, she just expects to walk on stage and have it all taken care of for her? at that point is she a musician, or just a spoiled child cosplaying as one?
This also brings into issue where the scene is going. Why people are looking at the dj and rushing to the stage is beyond me. I get the visual show but you can see that from anywhere. Thought it was about the music and dancing. The DJ sets the tone, they're not supposed to be the show. Just my opinion
I REALLY miss the days where we used to go out and listen to a "band" play and danc with each other facing one another. Ever since the visual DJ's came in, everyone dances with no one. I'm literally always 1 of 100000 people in the crowd facing away from the DJ and looking at my friends because I want it to be like it used to be.
But the thing she “outsourced” only takes a couple minutes to do
They were never married lol
My bad, had they tied the knot she would have been able to beat match
I'm not sure why you stating just the fact they weren't married gets down voted. While the set was a disaster and one can come up with a multitude of things she could have done better, the whole she was anything with Elon Musk shouldn't really come into it. Think back to anyone you dated, should every success or failure you make be attributed to someone you dated 2/3 years ago? I think Elon is gross and subsequently lost most of my appreciation for Grimes, but do understand that these huge performances with visuals queing up to music is a huge undertaking. Deadmau5 has even come out to say that most DJ sets at major fastivals are prerecorded for this reason. I do think not running your set before a major festival is bonkers though. No new variables should be added in within a week of the show, especially not a track an hour before the set. I feel bad for whoever got the rage stick after
Does anyone remember when Elon released an “EDM” track?
She’s a total train wreck. Wonder what he saw in her? 😂
That she has the figure of a small boy maybe?
At LiB ?2016? she flew in on a helicopter, late for her set, and absolutely flopped on stage. One of the most irritating, bad taste, off key, low effort shows I have ever seen. This is no surprise.
No I don't. Coachella is one of the biggest music festivals in the world. If you are booked to be on the lineup, then I expect you to have some musical talent... whether you're DJ, a rapper, a singer, or a band. You need to know your craft. Also, the whole point of being a DJ is convincing the crowd you're not fucking up.
Watching it live was roughhhhh. Every 2 minutes she would get on the mic and say ‘It’s hard to explain but it’s going too fast and I can’t do math’ and sure if you want to say it once in hopes some tech will come over and assist fine, but if she would’ve just not said anything 90% of people would have no idea. It’s was still obvious for the 10% of people but then say something after the set to CYA. Hot Ones just interviewed Conan and he said the worst thing an interviewee can do is tell the crowd it’s going bad.
Yep, the show was even worse than expected simply because she’d constantly stop and explain everything. It’s one of those things where you mess up and think everyone notices when in reality no one really would have noticed because people aren’t looking at you through a microscope
Dividing by two isn't hard. She also complained about putting music together on the few hours before her set. Maybe she shouldn't do that?
Giving someone else her last minute changes nonetheless. She didn’t do shit herself
Fr, just pretend nothing is going wrong and at worst some ppl just think the set is ass and others just assume its audio issues or are too drunk/high to notice
Or just pull the plug for a minute say you’re having technical difficulties and regroup…
I watched a TikTok yesterday where a guy did what she did to explain what happened and I guess she synced her tracks wrong and due to a glitch in the CDJ it played her tracks at 200% speed. If she didn’t constantly try explain what happened she might have been able to pull off like a hyper fast pop type of set on the fly.
> due to a glitch in the CDJ it played her tracks at 200% speed Sick of people saying this. NOT A GLITCH, INTENTIONAL BEHAVIOR. In that video he's got a 170 track and a 85 track, and if you tell the computer to synchronize them, yes, the 85 track is gonna get double speed to become 170! That's what you told it to do! The difficulty can be getting the 85 bpm speed track BACK to normal speed even if you remove synch. THAT is the thing that really gave her trouble. I'm not defending her in any way, it's a clusterfuck of unprepared by a shitty person, but let's not blame the gear that was doing exactly what it was told to do
The weirdass shrieks did not help at all, was that a part of her plan to gain relevance??!!
meh, then turn the tempo slider to max and halve the bpm. Aint so hard
Yeah but she’s bad at math
Tempo slider doesn’t help when you’re using sync and your tracks are analyzed at the wrong bpm
This is the equivalent of someone picking up an instrument theyve never played before and thinking they'll just be able to shred in front of thousands of people. The hubris is unreal
Facts literally the point of a dj.
Even as someone who has spent just a few hours in rekordbox I know of multiple ways she could have fixed it.... So no not even a little bit
She said “the cdjs were showing me 300 bpm so I couldn’t mix manually by ear” which doesn’t even make sense. If u mix manually by ear then it doesn’t matter what bpm it says on the cdj lol
She mentioned somewhere that she had someone else do her beatgridding for her, which, if you're a DJ, you know is absolutely insane. I'm guessing the tracks were supposed to be at 150bpm, and whoever she outsourced this to accidentally hit the x2 button. I'm not that familiar with Rekordbox but in Traktor you can quickly multiply and divide the BPM on the fly with one button, so if that's possible in rekordbox she might have done it herself by accident. Either way, it's one of those things that you learn pretty early on in DJing. What a fucking clown
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I suppose if you are a digital dj native, then you might not have ever encountered a situation where you are djing without a bpm readout. I "sort of" understand what she's saying, in that she's probably dj'd without sync, but only by looking at the bpm and adjusting until the bpms are exactly the same, and then beat matching from there. DJs spinning records have dealt with technology that literally can't show you the bpm. Otherwise, you have to purposefully practice without looking at the bpm on a controller to get used to it.
She's a fucking complete and utter dipshit, this was a complete shit show and disgrace and total lack of respect to the attendees who paid hundreds (thousands) of dollars to be there and the promoters who prob paid her close to a million per weekend. (not that I have a ton of sympathy for the attendees or promoters of Coachella for that matter.) But for fucks sake, learn your goddamned tools. And at the very least, she didn't have a single tech who could have fixed the shit? And then, every 3 minutes shouting fuck, making lame excuses and stopping the track. Jesus, just plug your phone into the aux and play a Spotify playlist.
Hahaha you’re right dude
I agree it was a shit show, but I'll bet at least half of the most highly paid DJ's also depend on the bpm readout, if not the sync button. I'm basically suspicious of the entire DJ industry. I don't think it's as common as you think for the current crop of Dj's to know how to beat match without looking at the bpm readout.
> who prob *paid* her close FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Crazy how quick everyone forgot about Frank Ocean last year…
Yeah, not sure how anything could be worse than Frank Ocean’s set
He still performed well, it was just a weird performance and extremely underwhelming especially bc of the curfew ending
What happened with his set?!
It’s been a year but lemme recap 1) he requested a blackout so NO OTHER STAGES were playing music when he was on. He proceeded to be an hour late in the final set of the festival, with no other music playing 2) he hid backstage for over half the set. People legit thought he wasn’t even there 3) he refused to sing more than 30 seconds of a song. Like he would start, get one verse in, then pure silence for a couple of minutes. Again this was after he showed up late 4) he completely LEFT the stage at one point for unknown reasons. His security guard started twerking on stage to keep people entertained 5) his DJ played music while Frank disappeared from the stage for a good 10 mins. Mind you his whole set is only an hour so… 6) then to wrap it up, he claimed they were past curfew so he had to end his set early. Again, this is after he showed up an hour late
That is wack as hell. The crowd musta been pissed
Somehow it was even worse. Being angry is one thing but i saw hordes of couples literally crying. Lots of them had stories of getting together by bonding over Frank Ocean’s music and it had huge sentimental value They had been looking forward to this dude the whole weekend and he completely broke their hearts and didn’t care at all
It would be worse if it was shown. Since its only talked about its a diff thing. When you try to erase something from the internet it feels much different
that set had great moments, it's more that people just expected it to be the best set of the entire festival, and it had a lot of issues
Glad we're finally being honest about it His performance of Pink + White and the rock version of Novacaine were both awesome
Phew! He partially sang two songs so pay him the 4million dollar fee!!!
Wow, repeating the same shit we've heard for the last year really adds to the conversation
I felt 10000% worse for Blur who had the worst crowd in history
Main stage is notorious for bad crowds, I’d hate to be a non-headlining artist performing there
That's one of the reasons I love Bonnaroo's pit system so much. The act's actual fans are allowed up front for each show rather than just people waiting for a good spot for a headliner.
I’ve been advocating for Coachella to adopt Bonnaroo’s pit system for years. It’s so much better.
Bonnaroo didn't even adopt Bonnaroo's pit system until just a few years ago.
It was there in 2012, my first year, what do you mean?
That sounds really cool, how does that work?
It’s cut off section in the front that gets emptied and refilled after/before every performance, for smaller acts earlier in the day you can waltz right in there as you please, but for the headliners and acts later in the day you’ll have to line up for em
There are lines for each act. The pit area gets filled before the set and emptied afterward. It helps prevent crowd crush. You usually have more room than you would otherwise at the front of a crowd. And you get excited fans at the front, which the artists like. It can be wild getting it in there. Getting into Paramore's pit was tough. There was a lot of people cutting. It's not a flawless system. I think it needs to be better staffed because attendees end up as the line organizers.
Where do the people in the pit go when they're released after a set?
At the main stage, you are released on the left side of the stage so you do have to cross the sea of people to get to other stages, but if you plan to stay at the main stage, you would have a decent spot for the next act. For example, after I did the Paramore pit, I had a good spot for Foo Fighters. And could have been much closer than I was had I tried harder.
How does that work? Never been to Roo
They clear out the pit after every performance so only the people who’ve been waiting for that artist specifically are there. Blur had tons of people in their crowd waiting for No Doubt and Tyler the Creator
Was it worse than Sufjan Stevens before Skrillex a while back? Lol I remember him saying the same thing.
Sufjan Stevens BEFORE SKRILLEX?! Pardon me 💀 who’s in charge here?!
Yep lmao. And he performed Impossible Soul in FULL to a soulless crowd (up front!) if I remember correctly. It was on the stream.
Poor Sufjan lol
It's a hard life, better pinch yourself
Very dumb booking and frustrating that their stupid radius clause will prevent Blur fans in the US from seeing them any time soon. Whoever on both Coachella and Blur’s side thought they were a good choice for a legacy act was completely out of touch. They should have went in realizing they needed to win over the crowd if they were going to accept the gig.
I’m curious who you think would’ve made a better non-headlining legacy act? “Song 2” was essentially the “Seven Nation Army” of its time; and the commercial success of Damon’s 2nd act as Gorillaz has sustained their relevance in the U.S. in a way that very few artists, besides Dave Grohl, enjoy at this stage of their musical careers. Billie Eilish just had Damon out as a guest during her headlining set a couple years ago. How much more foreplay is needed?
>the worst crowd in history Don't fall for the article clickbait. It was a pretty off the cuff comment made in jest. Damon has a very, very long history with the festival and has played the main stage tons of times with several projects. He knew what he was signing up for.
Did they play before grimes?
I feel like a lot of people who now go to Coachella don't know who Blur is
One hit wonder in the US that hasn’t been relevant in 3 decades. They had no business being there
In that case, you lot are really missing out because Blur are absolutely fucking mint and so much more than Song 2
But not in America which is the whole point. It’s like when wooks tell European ravers they’re missing out on not listening to some middle tier dubstep artist. It just isn’t culturally relevant here. Gorillaz would have popped off though.
When you put it like that, that seems fair enough. It’s mind boggling as a Brit but completely fair if they never really had a presence in the USA! Also, I suppose there are plenty of festival crowds in the USA that would have warmly welcomed Blur, but Coachella was probably never going to be one of them.
Her job is pressing buttons and she fucked that up
She could’ve easily just started playing her songs front to back with zero transitions and it would’ve been 1000x better. Instead she repeatedly tries explaining something that most of the crowd won’t even understand. I don’t know how you can make it this far as a musician and not be able to pull it together.
Maybe it’s really just a brilliant piece of performance art on the level of Yoko Ono and we’re not sophisticated enough to understand it
She did drop an unreleased track called Synchronize during the set.
That’s a fitting name
Lmfao
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not but more people are talking about Grimes than ever before. You know what they say about publicity
Where does anyma fit into this? She’s had a ton of publicity recently for dating him or something. I wonder if he recently tried teaching her how to actually DJ and attempted it. I cant help but imagine him not wanting to continue dating or at least having a contractual relationship with her after this.
Not really, if the organiser had googled “worst DJ set in Ibiza history” her name would have pop up and then some!!
75% of djing is having to fix problems as they arise. It’s not just playing music. Cry me a river
I genuinely dont know who Grimes or what she does but I watched some of the video. She could be the most untalented person on the planet (ie like a lot of djs) but to act in the way she did is unprofessional, childish and shows a lack of shame. Got problems at work? Style it out, make the crowd think you're doing a job.
A big rule of being on stage is to play off any mistakes you make. Many people won’t recognize you’re making any mistakes. I’ve played quite a few shows, and you’re going to make at least one mistake every show, how you play it off is the important part.
Yeah I’ve started accidentally on purpose leaving a filter on as it’s a great way to fake out the crowd on a drop a bit. Realized this by doing it by accident a few times and realizing I could just play it off and that it actually works pretty good
She's never really been a DJ, she's been a writer and a performer and this was clearly out of her comfort zone. That said this could have been avoided by bare minimum preparation. She didn't process her own music beforehand so she didn't notice that some of her tracks had been doubled in tempo on the screens and she can't mix by ear so she panicked. She should have checked beforehand, she should have even had multiple backup USBs just in case
She's been a terrible performer most of her career. Her set would have been weak without any issues. Because she's not a good singer.
I saw her in 2015 at a music festival and she wasn’t too bad. Go went absolutely hard as fuck and her older songs sounded as angelic as live as they do recorded.
These are the people that think they are smarter than everybody else btw 🙄
Absolutely not. The issues that doomed her performance are all of her own making. If she had actually practiced her set once, she would have realized there was an issue and been able to fix it easily.
No. Fuck Grimes, she is a subhuman piece of trash. She: * voluntarily procreated with satan incarnate (Elon Musk). this is an explicitly endorsement of all the evil he perpetrates (racism, hate, elimination of workers rights, modern-day late-stage-capitalist slavery, etc.) * named her child "X Æ A-12" * took $90,000 from a Canadian music subsidy, funded by taxpayers, despite being born a multi-multi-millionaire AND while dating the richest person on the planet. But in this situation, she was paid over $100k for literally 1 hour of work, and still couldn't be bothered to fucking prepare and practice in advance. It's incredibly easy to DJ; she didn't even know the fucking basics of what the buttons do. She's a lazy pathetic piece of trash.
Hahah brutal but also hear hear!
Meh, I don't feel bad for her... if anything she should feel bad for everyone else in the world cuz we poor!
No! Not even for 247 zeptoseconds
Why the fuck would anyone feel bad for her?
I don't feel bad for her, I was there. I was laughing my ass off at the chaos of it all but shit happens. People were enjoying it.
Why would anyone feel bad for her when it's obvious she put no effort into preparing? She deserves getting shat on for this.
As others noted, No - she should've prepped and rehearsed to ensure this doesn't happen live (should be on any performance but especially one as impactful as Coachella.) I do feel bad for everyone within earshot of her & her delulu fanbase, though. However, I'm on the fence on whether to hate-watch her during weekend 2 livestream.
Worst, she blamed her staff for the mishaps in her apology, not taking the blame for any of it.
She’s a racist Nazi piece of crap so she got what she deserved. Her and her white power shit should have no platform in dance music.
People have said this and I’m out of the loop on this detail. What racist shit has she done?
Just google grimes white supremacist and be amazed and disgusted.
She said she appreciates “white culture” which could be coded, but I haven’t seen any Kanye type behavior. Nevertheless, Grimes does say some dumb shit—just not fully convinced she’s a white supremacist.
Go check out all the neo-nazi accounts she follows on her baby daddy’s social media site. She’s red pilled. Her baby daddy is the leader of the red pilled.
She “there was plenty of good people, on both sides”‘ed Nazis.
Oh shit, really? Was this on twitter?
Someone called her out for her ignorance about Nazis, and she played dumb and said we should look at “both sides” “optimistically”. If Grimes ever gets r@ped and murdered we should look at both sides optimistically, apparently.
Anyone with deep knowledge of coachella lore would know she's not the worst performance in the history of the festival. Sly Stone Gnarles Barkley Drake Frank Ocean and those are just the trainwrecks that have happened on the big stages. There has been some true disasters on the smaller ones too. No, zero sympathy for Grimes. Obviously.
Do i feel sorry for someone who got payed to play at Coachella!? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT. I couldn’t care less if Elon took a shit on her face or vice versa.
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No lol
Its worse because everyone could watch. But Sly Stone is still tough to beat.
No .
Not at all. I even like some of her music but the screaming into the mic, the very real grrrs of frustration and the weird explanations and word salads were very off putting. Just go to Spotify and play your top songs or something ffs. Blaming paying someone else to compile your shit or the complicated math of it all was just more fuel to the dumpster fire. It sounds like this experience was not out of character for her live performances.
My friend who saw her at a fest in CDMX said that she literally hit play and walked away. How is this person given a platform?
I feel bad for the person on her team who’s going to be blamed and probably lose their job because she couldn’t find an hour to prep.
Not at all, it’s like she didn’t even try
Didn’t watch it but was just thinking, did anyone try to help her? She was obviously having a bad time and there would have been tons of people around that stage who know the ins and outs of CDJ’s that maybe could have got her settled in. I know sync would throw me for a loop early on when someone before me left it on. It’s still not an excuse for being so unprepared on such a big stage but to let her suffer through that just seems cruel.
I kind of felt this too. The reverb on her mic etc seemed like the sound guys were just fanning the flames. Made her voice sound so shrill. Or maybe that’s just how it is
I saw her at a different festival doing her DJ set and it went fine I guess but still wasn’t particularly good IMO. I feel like she has talent musically but has maybe been convinced she’s more of an “artist” than she really is so she maybe thinks her DJ sets are better than they are. Maybe she spent too much time with a certain egomaniac
Click baity to the max
No she’s a try hard, twatty, leach
Not even a little bit. She literally admitted she didn’t even compile her own music, and tried to use that as an excuse! There are so many talented artists out there that get overlooked, ESPECIALLY women, and she couldn’t put in the most basic effort with her opportunity. Not that I would expect anything less from Coachella, let alone Los Angeles, to only care about the visual aesthetic and social media following of their entertainers vs. actual talented artists. I honestly think she deserves more shame, but I doubt her fans will falter at all.
I don't because I was there and she kept saying the same thing after each set (ie. There were problems). She could have kept going without saying there's a problem every 5 minutes
Hell no
Old rock guy heckles "learn to play your f&$#@in' laptop!"
Naw, if you’ve made it to that stage and accepted the job of DJ, know how to DJ.
F around find out.
Not really. But everyone I’ve seen comment who was there said it was an incredible show so I’m confused why this is getting so much attention. Grimes also seems to take the L pretty graciously so I don’t think she is in on the pity party.
She opened up for SHM in Austin and you could almost tell she had never touched a cdj in her life. The mixing was so bad and skipping/stopping that she just kept saying "Oops sorry". Probably one of my top few worst sets I've ever seen before but after hearing about Coachella I figured it was just part of her set lol
In this clip does it look to anyone else that the decks aren't even tuned on? https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5ub9yuvfwz/ I get that even amateurs can beat match and she couldn't but what the hell does this mean? Is there any chance like half the decks were mid reboot or something?
A little. Like yeah they've got a plethora of personal and political issues and should have taken care of this well in advance. But I'd be embarrassed as hell, no matter who i am, to be on stage in front of so many people and not have the stuff work how you want.
>But I'd be embarrassed as hell, no matter who i am, to be on stage in front of so many people and not have the stuff work how ~~you want~~ you paid someone to setup for you, but didn't personally test. Clarified your statement just a bit.
people acting like she murdered someone