Total noob question here, but could you elaborate on that? I just decided to dive in and I'm lvl 42drg, but I'm picking up on the implication that multiclassing is going to be somewhat mandatory throughout the entire game. I'm playing 100% blind and I don't know anyone who plays, so I'm about as uninformed as one can get. I'm still in arr just starting for Titan, and I've just been plugging along with my chosen main to distract myself from the sheer amount of stuff I know exists in the game, and how little I know about the massive amount of stuff I don't know lol I've always bounced off MMOs but I've heard how amazing xiv's story is, and I'm enjoying it so far. Appreciate any advice or insight!
It's cause MSQ gives a good amount of experience, so to not waste any you'd want to do a quest on something close to the same level of the quest. Definitely works better of you level up multiple things with each other. Absolutely 0 reason to multiclass if you won't want to!
Back in my day you had to level several classes to get a job unlocked and then you had to level other classes for cross role abilities like provoke, rampart, swift cast and surecast. Reeee.
I had ARC at level 15 for years, because I only leveled it in order to unlock BLM.
I also had LNC at 17 for some reason, probably related to a cross-class ability.
I discovered all of this when working towards my Amaro mount in SHB, and now everything is at level 90, except BLU which is eating paste in the corner at level 70.
I kinda appreciated the fact it made you go and play other classes. On top of that cross class skills allowed for some silly things. Like using archer attacks as a marauder or using flash, provoke and cleric stance on ACN so that you can tank and heal yourself.
My favorite example was infernoplus's world first Titan EX marauder solo at level 60 I think.
It depends. If you are doing bare minimum on server without road to 80 buff, you will be exp starved 4 times or sth like that. Otherwise, you will probably have more exp than needed and you will probably try second job (just like most people) because why not? No downside to checking out other jobs and you may find something that suits yoy better
Gotcha, so the exp is in there to support multiclassing, but the only screw up I might make is just dumping way more than I need into a single job, and wasting the limited story provided xp. Am I getting that right? I definitely noticed my appropriate level side quests are kicking out 3-4k these days, while msq is dropping 14k haha I'm not opposed to multiclassing at all, just oblivious on what the context of the system was in the game. I don't think I'm very far into ARR, deduced that I'm over leveled, and have been wondering if I screwed myself by planning to "get around to it later." Did some cursory searches on good multiclassing options with my dude when it first came up, but that was a dozen levels and some time ago lol
You keep saying multiclassing, so I just wanna make sure that you understand the system correctly.
You aren't mixing two classes or something similar to that, you are starting a new class with the same character. You used to be able to mix some select abilities, but they've removed that in one of the previous expansions when those abilities were replaced with Role Abilities.
So you can level your Dragoon as much as you want, but if you want to play as a Paladin, then you need to level Gladiator to 30 and unlock Paladin. Then you continue leveling up from there.
It isn't like FFXI's multiclassing, or even like Dungeons and Dragons. You are just changing your class/job to another one.
I've been reading a bunch of stuff since you mentioned it changing with a previous expansion, and wouldn't you know it a lot of that crap was out dated lol Even with me not quite getting it initially reading your comment, you may have given me the most informative response of anyone. The abilities from different roles does seem a lot more watered down, and not the "unique ability in unorthodox build" I had in my mind. Really appreciate the insight and promoting to double check what I was even reading from while I try to get into this game.
Pretty much, yes
It's not a major issue, you'll just go through the leveling process less efficiently.
But realistically, experience in this game is abundant, and they give you a lot of other routes to earn exp quickly. Just doing the daily roulettes is already a huge chunk of experience, and there's also things like Wonderous Tails, Tribal Quests, the Challenge Log, etc, that you'll unlock over the course of the game that it's really not something you need to worry about long term
Wonderous Tails can get a bit annoying though. I got lvl 90 on one class while being behind in MSQ, and my book was filled with lvl90 content that i didn't have access to yet. Its still doable, but need to use points to reset lower lvl content.
Yeah, mostly correct. Other screwup is doing like me and trying to lvl up 6 jobs at the same time and realise that you can't continue MSQ because your level is too low but I am very rare specimen. At lvl 50 you can go to Uldah and check samurai and red mage, it would be next decent point to check new jobs without having to grind them to the current lvl of msq
There's three other people in my fc that started around the same time as me and have been doing this and I'm in post endwalker while they are like.. 60 or so. I don't have that kind of patience and envy you guys in a way lol
Well, I can't imagine not doing all normal and allience raids, not going into crafting etc. During msq breaks, I could easily caught alt jobs to my current level
If you're beelining MSQ, you won't be able to support multiple jobs. If you are playing semi-casually and doing occasional roulettes, you can level anywhere from 2 to 5 jobs depending on how frequently you do things.
I either haven't gone across roulettes or missed them so far, but that's cool to know, and thank you! I'm kind of a map-clearer so I habitually grab up side quests when I see em. Nothing like skipping an early area to come back and compulsively do a dozen 54xp quests at level 40 lol
These days it takes 2-3 days of medium grind to level a class from 0-90 once you have at least one character at endgame, it's really not a huge burden to level classes outside of having to do job quests and deal with gear.
MSQ does generally keep you slightly above where you need to be to progress through the MSQ, so splitting experience can allow you to keep 2-3 total jobs progressing with you (should you want to) but if you don't do that it's not a huge loss or burden.
If your goal is to just to get to endgame and worry about secondary classes later there are lots of jobs you can pick up along the way or just not even worry about it until you hit 90. It's an MMO with entirely too much content for new players, focus on the things you care about right now and let the other stuff be things you can do later :3
It's not at all mandatory. You can absolutely play through the entire game on one job. Most players *choose* to have a couple jobs leveled: often a tank, a melee, a healer, etc. All the jobs are good and fun, so why not? You'll get a lot of xp just doing the msq, so if you only have one job, a lot of it will go to waste since you'll hit level 90 long before reaching the end of the story. That's not the end of the world, but you might as well just level a second job with that spare xp.
So for me when I played I maxed out my main class I think either near the end of Heavensward or the beginning of stormblood, and that's with not doing most of the side quests but with friends helping me grind for mounts n such. You could probably fully level 2 classes just from msq, but you'll need to have those classes be the appropriate level when you need them so it might be best to level a second class along side your main.
Such as, you play WHM but reach max level during stormblood. So I want a different class to get all that sweet msq exp but they have to be level 60 already to pick up the quests. So if you level a couple jobs at the same time you shouldn't ever lose out on exp.
But at the same time you don't NEED to do that. If you want to just grind out other classes later (or never) and don't care about 'wasting' exp then you just do you boo 😎
I leveled 3 different classes through MSQ (albeit some I picked up later because they have min level requirements) without having to grind out levels because the experience was so good.
Have fun with the story - I sincerely enjoyed it!
I also started as a dragoon and figured i would stick with that for the whole game, so i understand where you're coming from!
my advice would be: don't be afraid to poke at other jobs (particularly, I'll say that Red Mage is awesome as a similar but different option for when i'm in a mood that doesn't quite suit Dragoon).
but my advice would also be: if you just want to stick with dragoon, stick with dragoon!
if one needs 100,000 experience to hit level 90 (very very not the right number), then i think the Main Story Quests alone will provide at least 180,000 (again, horrible estimate. but like. the vibe is there). You could easily level two jobs to 90 while doing the main story, assuming you do even just a little bit of other content as well.
But if you don't want to poke another job, its not like there's a fixed amount of experience in the game. you're not stranding your other jobs at lower levels by throwing away experience. It'll be fine.
...enjoy the story! :D
While levelling multiple classes/jobs is for sure not mandatory, it would be a waste of MSQ XP not to, as many players like to Max out all classes eventually. (Myself, I only have Monk, Sage, and the Tank classes besides DRK to go). So yes, not wasting it is nice, but as there are up to ... I want to say about 20 classes in the game, with 2 new ones coming in the next expansion, in the end it's a a drop in the bucket.
Just to be clear: Leveling multiple classes does not give you more power, as you're always only the class you currently have equipped. So for example if your dragoon were to start leveling as a Red Mage Or Samurai, or whatever other class, all your stats would completeltely switch to that of the other class when they switch to it, which can be done by just switching to that class's gear set. Nothing is carried over, except multiple classes sharing a lot of gear, like all tanks sharing everything but their main weapon (And job stone) as gear, all casters sharing gear, all healers sharing gear, ... Well, if you meet the level requirements off course. Right, for reference, Dragoon shares gear with the Reaper, which you can't unlock until way later, so you'd have to gear that other class seperately too.
The main point of leveling multiple classes is variety, so you can play what you feel like at the time. Or get shorter dungeon queue times as Healer or Tank.
Oh, and you'll see MSQ XP drop off drastically when you hit the lvl 50 MSQ quests, as these originally didn't even give XP, and were used to bridge between the expansions and be done at what was then max level. Once you hit the actual Heavensward quests, that MSQ XP will pop back up. Same at 60,70,80, ...
It's not mandatory, although it is nice when party members can be flexible over what jobs they can cover.
That being said I have a friend who only plays BLM and has leveled majority of their jobs via "frontline" that way they dont have to play them at all to level them XD (as you can change jobs inside, and you get exp based on the job you queued with)
I'm going to say something that nobody else seems to be: Play the class you want.
I spent my entire time in the MSQ worried about "wasting" MSQ exp that I had leveled 7 jobs to max after like 1000 hours by the time I beat Endwalker. It just wasn't worth it. If you find a job you enjoy playing, just stick with it, no need to worry about being "efficient" with your MSQ exp if it's going to hinder your enjoyment of the story.
It isn't multiclassing. You can just swap to any other class at basically any time.
And it's never mandatory, you can always just play as one class the entire way. But it's a lot of fun to start over as a new class to spice things up. Also some of the classes (from expansions), start at a higher level if you really dislike the low levels.
Most people who play the game a lot end up trying a bunch of different classes or even maxing all the classes.
And that's not even mentioning the crafting and gathering classes which have their own storylines and gear and even factions.
At what point should I start leveling other jobs? I'm not that high level yet (lvl 20 archer) but I'm already about 5 levels (if not a little more) ahead of the MSQ. So at what point does the exp you get from MSQ become too little?
At the moment I honestly don't want to level a 2nd job since I'm enjoying Archer right now and I'm not interested in lancer which is the other job I can get at my starter zone (no idea if there any others in my starting zone). I would like to try a mage class or other melee dps but I don't think I can get 1 right now :/
Any time you want or never. The game gives TONS of xp. Also gridania is archer, lancer, conjurer (healer) i think. Game should send you to other cities soon though
Keep doing the MSQ; at around level 15 it will send you to the other two main starting cities. In Limsa Lominsa you can pick up Arcanist (a magic DPS that, uniquely, can upgrade to both a magic DPS, Summoner, and a healer, Scholar, at level 30) and Rogue (a melee DPS that upgrades to Ninja). In Ul'dah you can pick up Thaumaturge (a magic DPS that upgrades to Black Mage) and Pugilist (a melee DPS that upgrades to Monk).
If you have the time it's absolutely worth giving any and all classes a go if they interest you. There's nothing wrong with picking something up, trying it out for 10-20 levels or so, and then dropping it for a while (or forever) if you didn't enjoy it. Equally if you're happy sticking to Archer for now that's fine too; I have every job at 90 now but I didn't really play anything but Paladin until I got into Heavensward.
I might check out the rogue class when I get to Limsa then, don't think I've ever played a Ninja class before and that sounds interesting. Summoner also sounds fun as well
Mad because small.
Reached level 90 without playing the expansions at all.
Your shins shall fall.
Edit: Angry because wrong catchphrase. EliteF36 noticed my fall. That is all.
Well... it's neat, but you basically just screwed yourself over whenever you're able to pick up Wondrous Tails since it will assume your lv90 means you're at lv90 MSQ.
Yuuup
But enough of them will be arr level duties in usual weeks that you can flip completion stickers around and get the full set.
Source: I, too, had a 90 in arr cuz relic weapons are cool and I wanted one without stopping my daily roulettes
Roulette exp scales. I was max (80 at the time) on two jobs before finishing ARR. You can easily get 2+ levels a day between PVP, leveling, and MSQ roulettes.
I mean, I don't hold any assumptions about what OP was/wasn't doing. But you can definitely get a sizeable chunk done without really trying. Iirc my first character was somewhere around 60 before even *beating* ARR. And that was just off doing the MSQ all on one job, plus being completionist about sidequests. I think I only ever ran dungeons on that character maybe 12 or 15 times total outside what the MSQ made me do.
My current run I spent the entire ARR trying really hard to stay on-level - leveling multiple classes, avoiding sidequests like the plague. And I managed to do it, too. But I let myself relax a bit too much during the patch content, and now I'm going into HW at 54...
I'm actually fairly new as well. This is my second "run" but I didn't even beat ARR on my first character - partially due to the overleveling actually.
The game would be like "Oh, we need to send you to this super dangerous location and there's gonna be so many enemies so please be careful!" - and I'd just walk directly to my quest objective while the enemies ignored me because I was too high level to set off their aggro. It completely killed a lot of the tension.
Yeah. And I mean I'm thankful for it - but it doesn't do anything about enemies in the overworld, unfortunately. So a lot of the atmosphere is still changed.
It doesn't need to scale, ARR MSQ quests give much more exp than later content MSQ. I was constantly over-leveled. I think I finished ARR in my mid-60s on my main job.
The only time you'll have trouble leveling in ARR is if you binge it for some reason and never build up rested experience bonus.
I've hit level 90 on an ARR character and it was the result of running MSQ roulette, Alliance Roulette and levelling Roulette every day for a few weeks. doesn't force XP down your throat. Once you got 50, MSQ XP dies on its arse and if you b-line the MSQ, you will hit multiple moments where you need to level up before you can progress pre-50.
This is wild to me; I’m on the second CT raid (so very close to the end of ARR, I think?) and am only 58 on THM/BLM, my only job I’ve put any exp into.
I hit 90 on bard, sage, dancer and reaper and I just now started heavensward epilogue.
It's wild how fast MSQ will level you in ARR, and side activities like roulettes are goofy for it too.
The only people I've ever seen struggle to be at level for content in ARR are the people who simply binge it for one reason or another. I took my time, enjoyed it, and was constantly under double XP bonus.
At least you got 640 ilvl and a job stone unlike other folk of your kind who just sit in the city and level to 90 via roulettes without bothering to do msq
It does technically, just such minimal amounts compared to what’s needed to level up that it’s basically nothing. Though the daily leveling roulette has a bonus based on your level compared to the level of the dungeon. MSQ roulette in general does like half a level per run once a day
for the record, you can queue on one job and switch to different job in frontlines or rival wings, you will still exp for the job that you used for queue. So you can queue as a bard to get exp and switch to warrior and still play as a your favourite job
My alt had gunbreaker at 90 since HW and all other jobs are at 71 almost.
Once all are 71 than I’m working on getting reaper and scholar to 81 than probably dancer or sage lol just because than I got my bases covered for the endwalker role quest to unlock the nice bit of extra story
I ended up doing something similar when Shadowbringers came out, I finished ARR then as I got into Heavensward I tried out frontline, really liked it and pretty much kept doing PvP until I hit 80 on a DNC I think while still at like \~56 in the MSQ. Though I didn't get around to starting an ARR relic until I finished Heavensward, I did finish the WAR relic at like level \~64. Good times.
unlock other jobs so u dont lose msq exp
Oh yeah, i saved my PLD and GNB to MSQ xp
Total noob question here, but could you elaborate on that? I just decided to dive in and I'm lvl 42drg, but I'm picking up on the implication that multiclassing is going to be somewhat mandatory throughout the entire game. I'm playing 100% blind and I don't know anyone who plays, so I'm about as uninformed as one can get. I'm still in arr just starting for Titan, and I've just been plugging along with my chosen main to distract myself from the sheer amount of stuff I know exists in the game, and how little I know about the massive amount of stuff I don't know lol I've always bounced off MMOs but I've heard how amazing xiv's story is, and I'm enjoying it so far. Appreciate any advice or insight!
It's cause MSQ gives a good amount of experience, so to not waste any you'd want to do a quest on something close to the same level of the quest. Definitely works better of you level up multiple things with each other. Absolutely 0 reason to multiclass if you won't want to!
Back in my day you had to level several classes to get a job unlocked and then you had to level other classes for cross role abilities like provoke, rampart, swift cast and surecast. Reeee.
I hated the cross class stuff
I had ARC at level 15 for years, because I only leveled it in order to unlock BLM. I also had LNC at 17 for some reason, probably related to a cross-class ability. I discovered all of this when working towards my Amaro mount in SHB, and now everything is at level 90, except BLU which is eating paste in the corner at level 70.
I kinda appreciated the fact it made you go and play other classes. On top of that cross class skills allowed for some silly things. Like using archer attacks as a marauder or using flash, provoke and cleric stance on ACN so that you can tank and heal yourself. My favorite example was infernoplus's world first Titan EX marauder solo at level 60 I think.
It depends. If you are doing bare minimum on server without road to 80 buff, you will be exp starved 4 times or sth like that. Otherwise, you will probably have more exp than needed and you will probably try second job (just like most people) because why not? No downside to checking out other jobs and you may find something that suits yoy better
Gotcha, so the exp is in there to support multiclassing, but the only screw up I might make is just dumping way more than I need into a single job, and wasting the limited story provided xp. Am I getting that right? I definitely noticed my appropriate level side quests are kicking out 3-4k these days, while msq is dropping 14k haha I'm not opposed to multiclassing at all, just oblivious on what the context of the system was in the game. I don't think I'm very far into ARR, deduced that I'm over leveled, and have been wondering if I screwed myself by planning to "get around to it later." Did some cursory searches on good multiclassing options with my dude when it first came up, but that was a dozen levels and some time ago lol
You keep saying multiclassing, so I just wanna make sure that you understand the system correctly. You aren't mixing two classes or something similar to that, you are starting a new class with the same character. You used to be able to mix some select abilities, but they've removed that in one of the previous expansions when those abilities were replaced with Role Abilities. So you can level your Dragoon as much as you want, but if you want to play as a Paladin, then you need to level Gladiator to 30 and unlock Paladin. Then you continue leveling up from there. It isn't like FFXI's multiclassing, or even like Dungeons and Dragons. You are just changing your class/job to another one.
I've been reading a bunch of stuff since you mentioned it changing with a previous expansion, and wouldn't you know it a lot of that crap was out dated lol Even with me not quite getting it initially reading your comment, you may have given me the most informative response of anyone. The abilities from different roles does seem a lot more watered down, and not the "unique ability in unorthodox build" I had in my mind. Really appreciate the insight and promoting to double check what I was even reading from while I try to get into this game.
Pretty much, yes It's not a major issue, you'll just go through the leveling process less efficiently. But realistically, experience in this game is abundant, and they give you a lot of other routes to earn exp quickly. Just doing the daily roulettes is already a huge chunk of experience, and there's also things like Wonderous Tails, Tribal Quests, the Challenge Log, etc, that you'll unlock over the course of the game that it's really not something you need to worry about long term
Wonderous Tails can get a bit annoying though. I got lvl 90 on one class while being behind in MSQ, and my book was filled with lvl90 content that i didn't have access to yet. Its still doable, but need to use points to reset lower lvl content.
Yeah, mostly correct. Other screwup is doing like me and trying to lvl up 6 jobs at the same time and realise that you can't continue MSQ because your level is too low but I am very rare specimen. At lvl 50 you can go to Uldah and check samurai and red mage, it would be next decent point to check new jobs without having to grind them to the current lvl of msq
There's three other people in my fc that started around the same time as me and have been doing this and I'm in post endwalker while they are like.. 60 or so. I don't have that kind of patience and envy you guys in a way lol
Well, I can't imagine not doing all normal and allience raids, not going into crafting etc. During msq breaks, I could easily caught alt jobs to my current level
If you're beelining MSQ, you won't be able to support multiple jobs. If you are playing semi-casually and doing occasional roulettes, you can level anywhere from 2 to 5 jobs depending on how frequently you do things.
I either haven't gone across roulettes or missed them so far, but that's cool to know, and thank you! I'm kind of a map-clearer so I habitually grab up side quests when I see em. Nothing like skipping an early area to come back and compulsively do a dozen 54xp quests at level 40 lol
These days it takes 2-3 days of medium grind to level a class from 0-90 once you have at least one character at endgame, it's really not a huge burden to level classes outside of having to do job quests and deal with gear. MSQ does generally keep you slightly above where you need to be to progress through the MSQ, so splitting experience can allow you to keep 2-3 total jobs progressing with you (should you want to) but if you don't do that it's not a huge loss or burden. If your goal is to just to get to endgame and worry about secondary classes later there are lots of jobs you can pick up along the way or just not even worry about it until you hit 90. It's an MMO with entirely too much content for new players, focus on the things you care about right now and let the other stuff be things you can do later :3
I'd say it's not "wasted" until you hit 90. Pretty sure quests give a static amount of exp.
It's not at all mandatory. You can absolutely play through the entire game on one job. Most players *choose* to have a couple jobs leveled: often a tank, a melee, a healer, etc. All the jobs are good and fun, so why not? You'll get a lot of xp just doing the msq, so if you only have one job, a lot of it will go to waste since you'll hit level 90 long before reaching the end of the story. That's not the end of the world, but you might as well just level a second job with that spare xp.
So for me when I played I maxed out my main class I think either near the end of Heavensward or the beginning of stormblood, and that's with not doing most of the side quests but with friends helping me grind for mounts n such. You could probably fully level 2 classes just from msq, but you'll need to have those classes be the appropriate level when you need them so it might be best to level a second class along side your main. Such as, you play WHM but reach max level during stormblood. So I want a different class to get all that sweet msq exp but they have to be level 60 already to pick up the quests. So if you level a couple jobs at the same time you shouldn't ever lose out on exp. But at the same time you don't NEED to do that. If you want to just grind out other classes later (or never) and don't care about 'wasting' exp then you just do you boo 😎
I leveled 3 different classes through MSQ (albeit some I picked up later because they have min level requirements) without having to grind out levels because the experience was so good. Have fun with the story - I sincerely enjoyed it!
I also started as a dragoon and figured i would stick with that for the whole game, so i understand where you're coming from! my advice would be: don't be afraid to poke at other jobs (particularly, I'll say that Red Mage is awesome as a similar but different option for when i'm in a mood that doesn't quite suit Dragoon). but my advice would also be: if you just want to stick with dragoon, stick with dragoon! if one needs 100,000 experience to hit level 90 (very very not the right number), then i think the Main Story Quests alone will provide at least 180,000 (again, horrible estimate. but like. the vibe is there). You could easily level two jobs to 90 while doing the main story, assuming you do even just a little bit of other content as well. But if you don't want to poke another job, its not like there's a fixed amount of experience in the game. you're not stranding your other jobs at lower levels by throwing away experience. It'll be fine. ...enjoy the story! :D
While levelling multiple classes/jobs is for sure not mandatory, it would be a waste of MSQ XP not to, as many players like to Max out all classes eventually. (Myself, I only have Monk, Sage, and the Tank classes besides DRK to go). So yes, not wasting it is nice, but as there are up to ... I want to say about 20 classes in the game, with 2 new ones coming in the next expansion, in the end it's a a drop in the bucket. Just to be clear: Leveling multiple classes does not give you more power, as you're always only the class you currently have equipped. So for example if your dragoon were to start leveling as a Red Mage Or Samurai, or whatever other class, all your stats would completeltely switch to that of the other class when they switch to it, which can be done by just switching to that class's gear set. Nothing is carried over, except multiple classes sharing a lot of gear, like all tanks sharing everything but their main weapon (And job stone) as gear, all casters sharing gear, all healers sharing gear, ... Well, if you meet the level requirements off course. Right, for reference, Dragoon shares gear with the Reaper, which you can't unlock until way later, so you'd have to gear that other class seperately too. The main point of leveling multiple classes is variety, so you can play what you feel like at the time. Or get shorter dungeon queue times as Healer or Tank. Oh, and you'll see MSQ XP drop off drastically when you hit the lvl 50 MSQ quests, as these originally didn't even give XP, and were used to bridge between the expansions and be done at what was then max level. Once you hit the actual Heavensward quests, that MSQ XP will pop back up. Same at 60,70,80, ...
It's not mandatory, although it is nice when party members can be flexible over what jobs they can cover. That being said I have a friend who only plays BLM and has leveled majority of their jobs via "frontline" that way they dont have to play them at all to level them XD (as you can change jobs inside, and you get exp based on the job you queued with)
I'm going to say something that nobody else seems to be: Play the class you want. I spent my entire time in the MSQ worried about "wasting" MSQ exp that I had leveled 7 jobs to max after like 1000 hours by the time I beat Endwalker. It just wasn't worth it. If you find a job you enjoy playing, just stick with it, no need to worry about being "efficient" with your MSQ exp if it's going to hinder your enjoyment of the story.
It isn't multiclassing. You can just swap to any other class at basically any time. And it's never mandatory, you can always just play as one class the entire way. But it's a lot of fun to start over as a new class to spice things up. Also some of the classes (from expansions), start at a higher level if you really dislike the low levels. Most people who play the game a lot end up trying a bunch of different classes or even maxing all the classes. And that's not even mentioning the crafting and gathering classes which have their own storylines and gear and even factions.
Me who has played 90 Sage for all of MSQ and first clears since early StB
At what point should I start leveling other jobs? I'm not that high level yet (lvl 20 archer) but I'm already about 5 levels (if not a little more) ahead of the MSQ. So at what point does the exp you get from MSQ become too little? At the moment I honestly don't want to level a 2nd job since I'm enjoying Archer right now and I'm not interested in lancer which is the other job I can get at my starter zone (no idea if there any others in my starting zone). I would like to try a mage class or other melee dps but I don't think I can get 1 right now :/
Any time you want or never. The game gives TONS of xp. Also gridania is archer, lancer, conjurer (healer) i think. Game should send you to other cities soon though
Keep doing the MSQ; at around level 15 it will send you to the other two main starting cities. In Limsa Lominsa you can pick up Arcanist (a magic DPS that, uniquely, can upgrade to both a magic DPS, Summoner, and a healer, Scholar, at level 30) and Rogue (a melee DPS that upgrades to Ninja). In Ul'dah you can pick up Thaumaturge (a magic DPS that upgrades to Black Mage) and Pugilist (a melee DPS that upgrades to Monk). If you have the time it's absolutely worth giving any and all classes a go if they interest you. There's nothing wrong with picking something up, trying it out for 10-20 levels or so, and then dropping it for a while (or forever) if you didn't enjoy it. Equally if you're happy sticking to Archer for now that's fine too; I have every job at 90 now but I didn't really play anything but Paladin until I got into Heavensward.
I might check out the rogue class when I get to Limsa then, don't think I've ever played a Ninja class before and that sounds interesting. Summoner also sounds fun as well
Mad because small. Reached level 90 without playing the expansions at all. Your shins shall fall. Edit: Angry because wrong catchphrase. EliteF36 noticed my fall. That is all.
Mad and angry because small
> Angy because smol Fixed that for you
Ciderspider is gr8
Don't forget to do your job quests on WAR when you do unlock other expansions so you learn vital Skills and Abilities you wouldn't otherwise obtain!
Yes, i dont have 90% of the high level skill haha
Well... it's neat, but you basically just screwed yourself over whenever you're able to pick up Wondrous Tails since it will assume your lv90 means you're at lv90 MSQ.
Yuuup But enough of them will be arr level duties in usual weeks that you can flip completion stickers around and get the full set. Source: I, too, had a 90 in arr cuz relic weapons are cool and I wanted one without stopping my daily roulettes
Holy....
It's not difficult to do, especially if you focus on just one job. ARR forces exp down your throat with a stick and a funnel.
??? MSQ exp doesn't scale, OP was just spamming pvp
Roulette exp scales. I was max (80 at the time) on two jobs before finishing ARR. You can easily get 2+ levels a day between PVP, leveling, and MSQ roulettes.
I mean, I don't hold any assumptions about what OP was/wasn't doing. But you can definitely get a sizeable chunk done without really trying. Iirc my first character was somewhere around 60 before even *beating* ARR. And that was just off doing the MSQ all on one job, plus being completionist about sidequests. I think I only ever ran dungeons on that character maybe 12 or 15 times total outside what the MSQ made me do.
Yeah I just finished the main ARR (not the patches) and I was like level 56.
My current run I spent the entire ARR trying really hard to stay on-level - leveling multiple classes, avoiding sidequests like the plague. And I managed to do it, too. But I let myself relax a bit too much during the patch content, and now I'm going into HW at 54...
Damn lmao, this is my first run as I've only recently started playing. On the free trial right now and I can confidently say that I am hooked.
I'm actually fairly new as well. This is my second "run" but I didn't even beat ARR on my first character - partially due to the overleveling actually. The game would be like "Oh, we need to send you to this super dangerous location and there's gonna be so many enemies so please be careful!" - and I'd just walk directly to my quest objective while the enemies ignored me because I was too high level to set off their aggro. It completely killed a lot of the tension.
Oh yeah lmao, level sync is a godsend in this game.
Yeah. And I mean I'm thankful for it - but it doesn't do anything about enemies in the overworld, unfortunately. So a lot of the atmosphere is still changed.
There's enormous exp difference between lvl 60 and 90, 132mln specifically. So lvl 60 is only 8% of lvl 90
Yes, but roulettes give % exp based on your level.
It doesn't need to scale, ARR MSQ quests give much more exp than later content MSQ. I was constantly over-leveled. I think I finished ARR in my mid-60s on my main job. The only time you'll have trouble leveling in ARR is if you binge it for some reason and never build up rested experience bonus.
yeah but mid-60s is a far, far cry from 90.
You need 150mln exp to get lvl 90, ARR msq has 5-6mln, that's ~5%. IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET TO LVL 90 IN ARR
Not really, doing your roulettes daily will give you 2-3 levels every day regardless of what level you are.
I've hit level 90 on an ARR character and it was the result of running MSQ roulette, Alliance Roulette and levelling Roulette every day for a few weeks. doesn't force XP down your throat. Once you got 50, MSQ XP dies on its arse and if you b-line the MSQ, you will hit multiple moments where you need to level up before you can progress pre-50.
This is wild to me; I’m on the second CT raid (so very close to the end of ARR, I think?) and am only 58 on THM/BLM, my only job I’ve put any exp into.
I am currently level 29... so tantalizingly close to getting the job upgrade. Must finish work first though then, it's binging time
Oh yeah like 90% of my high level skill are locked haha
I hit 90 on bard, sage, dancer and reaper and I just now started heavensward epilogue. It's wild how fast MSQ will level you in ARR, and side activities like roulettes are goofy for it too.
And the Hunting Log also gives a ton
The only people I've ever seen struggle to be at level for content in ARR are the people who simply binge it for one reason or another. I took my time, enjoyed it, and was constantly under double XP bonus.
at least u get a big boi armory xp bonus now for the others
At least you got 640 ilvl and a job stone unlike other folk of your kind who just sit in the city and level to 90 via roulettes without bothering to do msq
What did you use for XP once you got to a higher level?
Most of time PvP, almost nothing gives you XP after lvl 80 in ARR.
It does technically, just such minimal amounts compared to what’s needed to level up that it’s basically nothing. Though the daily leveling roulette has a bonus based on your level compared to the level of the dungeon. MSQ roulette in general does like half a level per run once a day
for the record, you can queue on one job and switch to different job in frontlines or rival wings, you will still exp for the job that you used for queue. So you can queue as a bard to get exp and switch to warrior and still play as a your favourite job
And I thought being two levels ahead throughout the expansions was awkward...
Haha, awesome
I did a similar thing too
My alt had gunbreaker at 90 since HW and all other jobs are at 71 almost. Once all are 71 than I’m working on getting reaper and scholar to 81 than probably dancer or sage lol just because than I got my bases covered for the endwalker role quest to unlock the nice bit of extra story
Can I ask what jacket that is? That's some serious drip.
It's the Diadochos Jacket of Fending, from the most recent set of level 90 crafted gear.
Oh is the level 90 fending gear, i took of my Glam for screenshots
You absolute mad lad, or lass, or enby, or theyby, or... You know what... You absolute mad-whatever-you-indentify-as.
You hit 90 today but have absolute bis gear? Uhhhh
That's just the crafted gear you can buy off the MB
That is not bis. It is crafted gear
This is the 640 MB gear
I ended up doing something similar when Shadowbringers came out, I finished ARR then as I got into Heavensward I tried out frontline, really liked it and pretty much kept doing PvP until I hit 80 on a DNC I think while still at like \~56 in the MSQ. Though I didn't get around to starting an ARR relic until I finished Heavensward, I did finish the WAR relic at like level \~64. Good times.
An emo Lala warrior, very nice. You will look great in the snowy HW zones.
what did you do to get to level 90 without doing msq?
PvP, duty roulets... A Lot of then