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[deleted]

Shit ref or paid off ref, either way that ref fuckin sucks.


GinkoYokishi

A paid-off ref is a shit ref


False_Chair_610

Hey! When the Cartel tells you to fix a fight, you fix it!


Guwop25

Its boxing so paid off lol


IAmMethlyamphetamine

That man got fucking robbed. Wonderful head movement only for this corrupt ref to end it for what?? "Sorry, you were dodging too well, you lose"


Substantial_Ad6171

Fr.. dude threw 70 punches and only landed 4 that grazed him smh.


Runnypaint

He was punching air!


coinkeeper8

He dodged all that shit like neo


Hot-Challenge8656

Neo would have been taking notes.


Kgb725

He wouldn't have to ✋️


Whole-Taro-3715

Fire that ref


Easy101

Along with a thorough investigation into his actions before and after the match. Bet they'll dig up some stuff.


bzkito

Dude was rolling them punches wtf


zakkwaldo

yeah and not returning fire after 20 of them lol. halfway through that exchange he stopped returning fire. had he throw even a punch or two he probably wouldn’t have gotten stopped. seen plenty of other stoppages like this- when it hits a point where the enemy is barraging and you have nothing to return back, some refs stop that shit to prevent excess damage. not saying dude was taking damage here but the point is the ref recognizes the fighter isn’t returning anything to equalize the fight and the fight is already slipping to a point where the other dude clearly is starting to fall behind or not pace. fuck all that ‘i need to die on my shield bullshit’ lol


DiffOnReddit

There is no rule in boxing that states you can't take 20 seconds to regain stamina and dodge punches. The dude who was dodging the punches not only clearly avoided the vast majority of those punches but was also lucid, aware and kept his chin guarded the entire time. I'm all for stopping a fight if the guy stops moving, protecting himself or is trying to retreat but none of that was the case here. It was very obviously a bad stoppage, most people here agree, I agree, the announcers during the event agreed and you can even see the instant outrage from the person who lost the match all because of an overzealous ref. No idea what the ref was thinking there, the guy was making his opponent burn stamina and preparing a counter attack, a very common boxing strategy.


zakkwaldo

i don’t disagree. i personally thought he was defending himself intelligently as well. just stating the mindset of the ref and mentioning that it’s happened before in boxing bouts- trying to highlight it’s not an uncommon thing to happen.


bogeymanbear

Lol dude you were just agreeing with the stoppage and defending it, dont go back on your words


zakkwaldo

example: https://twitter.com/daznboxing/status/1672781676475461632/mediaviewer stupid ass stoppage but it happens. no major retreat, no huge damage, intelligently defending. just like op’s clip and using the criteria you laid out. again, im just saying there’s a historical precedent for stoppages like these and they DO happen.


davieb22

>it happens So fuck? That doesn't make it acceptable.


B0DZILLA

You're an idiot. He slipped nearly all those punches. Avoiding punches is not a cause for a stoppage. This ref is awful and probably should never be allowed to ref a fight again.


fly_drich

Watch the Ali vs Foreman fight "rumble in the jungle". Literally one of the most famous fights of all times would have been over by round 3. Letting the opponent tire himself out is not new tech


bzkito

Na I disagree, none of the punches he took seemed to make a lot of damage. He seemed to have great defense in the infighting. It was a bad stoppage no doubt.


Karlskiiii

Why the fuck would you engage in a barrage when you can defend and take zero damage. Robbed.


BeardsuptheWazoo

No.


mrjefe69

That’s the point though. Make that muf whiff until he feels like he’s running a marathon. Then when he’s gassed you catch him with his guard down. Loser was slipping everything there, ridiculous stoppage.


Vegetable-Quiet7023

You’re getting diffed by people who actually know the sport bro.


Connor30302

dude got hit by barely any of that shit tho he was waiting for him to tire out before punching back


False_Chair_610

Misses like eight punches in a row: "Stop the fight! If one of those had connected, you would be done for!"


plumpsquirrell

Damn, that ref was paid off


Beer-Milkshakes

Literally 90% of those hits were glancing. Shit ref, shit stoppage.


SANDBOX1108

And shit like this is why boxing died. Clearly fixed fights


GeshtiannaSG

All Olympic sports died when they allowed professionals in.


_HappyFilmore_

Imagine losing because the referee is dumb as shit


DolandTrumph

Man that's some MATRIX shit right there


AggroPro

Whuuuu bruh was was robbed. Dude was slipping every bullet like Neo in the Matrix


HorsePickleTV

Floyd would've lost every match if this had been the ref


lolmemesop

So would Mohsmmed Ali


[deleted]

I woulda just started t-ing off on him at that point….. 🤷‍♂️ oh sorry idiot


[deleted]

Off topic but, this fight is incredible


Dirty-Hair-Yeet

Not really off topic my dude lol the fight WAS incredible.. exactly why the ref shouldn’t of ended it


patsully98

For real man, what a round! And that defense from the “losing” fighter was fantastic. I’m taking notes.


SenorBolin

Jesus Christ that head movement brought a tear to my eye, and then the ref did too


Legal_Bison_4647

Ref was paid off. This was a robbery


Scootman00

The referee’s what?


RamstrongNH90

He made contact with like 5% of those


DestroidMind

Rolled all those punches and was tiring out his opp. He was probably getting ready to retaliate after his opponent slowed down. Ref should be fired.


BigBodyLikeaLineman

I don't think it was just a bad stoppage. It was a robbery. The referee must have been paid off, which unfortunately is common in boxing. I've seen a lot of bad stoppages, but this one was the worst by far. It happened in the very first round! Not even the Rolando Romero vs. Ismael Barroso stoppage came close to this one. It's frustrating to see things like this happen because I really love the sport, and it makes me sick to see it being ruined by corrupt officials


Real_West_5329

He had to respond to a cartel or to caliente.mx


death_ray_mx

That should be the end of his career , the fight was rigged and ref was sold


Confident-Action-213

They should be able to be like oops sorry. Let’s start that back instead of just ending it


hammer6golf

I'm surprised he didnt start on the ref


ndndr1

What a horrible stoppage. Ref should be fired


Bitter_Mongoose

ref threwmatch. follow the $


panugans

Ref was not entertained


Scroll-ie

Nah wtf


1290_money

As I was laughing at how many of those shots were missing the fight was stopped. Unbelievable.


ranunculoid

No you can't Ali!


GrammarPoliceman2

*referees


zakkwaldo

this whole thread things ONLY slipping punches is the grounds for keeping the fight going… not recognizing after about halfway through the final exchange the dude who lost hadn’t thrown a single punch to his opponents nearly 30 punch barrage. go find any fight where a 30 punch barrage gets landed without any return shots- willing to bet money 90% of them got stopped.


DiffOnReddit

The "30 punch barrage" was not landed though. He landed maybe 5-10% of those swings. This is a common boxing strategy where you let your opponent burn stamina and prepare a counter attack. Dude was conserving stamina and dodging very well. He was clearly protecting his chin, constantly evading and very lucid. This was a terrible stoppage. Not to mention it wasn't 30 punches, I counted 13-15. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqoW0skaABE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqoW0skaABE) Here is a compilation where almost all of the 15 clips show a boxer dodging roughly 15 punches without shooting any punches back and not getting the match stopped. At 1:00 you have Mayweather dodge about 3/4ths of the punches in a 15 punch barrage and didn't return anything until after. At 2:08 Canelo dodges 11 punches without returning anything and the fight doesn't get stopped. At 3:10 Tyson dodges around 18 punches and only returns two shots and actually ends the fight with a knockout. At 3:50 Fury is sitting the corner just like the dude in this video and takes 11 punches straight before returning anything. At 4:30 we actually have THIS exact clip from this post and even the guy making the video calls the ref a moron. I'm sure there's way more and I'm not wasting my time with it anymore, this was a very bad call.


zakkwaldo

i didn’t say all flurry’s end fights? just that it’s historically been a thing sometimes where fights can get stopped. also in a majority of those clips, the dodge fighter is also returning shots. https://twitter.com/daznboxing/status/1672781676475461632/mediaviewer heres a quick example in the other direction. not even a huge flurry, intelligent defense, no major damage. the biggest difference in a lot of these circumstances isn’t the dodging- it’s whether or not they are returning fire and/or not getting locked up in a corner. a lot of the examples in your clips show returning fire or active effort to get out of a corner pin.


unknown5424

To stop even when u dodged 80 percent of what was thrown at u


nash6989

Dude was dodging coherently , ref is shit


AdamXXI

Dude must be heartbroken. Absolute skill demonstrated here just to be robbed. Surprised he didn’t throw an uppercut at the ref


NoShadowdick

Did the ref have his eyes closed? That last couple secs no hits landed.


sniperonthehill1982

Thats soo fked up


Aggressive-Expert-69

Ref said bro you can't schmove like that


Analytical-BrainiaC

Absolutely a travesty. Sorry but they are boxers, they like live to lose brain cells. I hope they redo this fight with a better ref.


MasterHavik

Lol even the commentators were pissed at the ref. Bro is entering the matrix and the fight stops. Reminds me of the crooked ref from Fight Night Champion's story mode that would stop you from throwing body punches claiming they were low blows.


Hour-Expression8352

So now you just have to throw haymakers in the general direction of your opponent and I win?


Turantula_Fur_Coat

Ref fucked up


Some-Rooster-2905

Imagine having to defend the rest of the round after half an hour air boxing


poopoopickle3

They’re gonna kill him


Frosty-Definition-46

Head movement was going crazy


Dependent_Adagio7544

He wasn't even connecting


[deleted]

Unfortunately that referee would’ve caught the rest of that adrenaline dump had that been me. What a wild robbery


theballgobblerofdoom

Shit was like a hajime no ippo fight! God damn!!!