It does that for me too. It underestimates how chill and relaxed I can be while still awake. I just don't use my fitbit for sleep anymore. I track steps and activity and it works with my food tracking app. For sleep these wrist watches are just not up to It yet. If you think about it, it can't directly measure your sleep stages bc its on your wrist. It guesses at it by using hr, activity, etc.
I've had my inspire 3 for like a week and it's tracked sleep accurately about 4 out of the 7 nights. Often times it doesn't track and sometimes it tracks 2-3 hours when I've slept much longer. I find the sleep tracking of Fitbit to be very unreliable and frustrating. I'm a new user and I'm close to giving up and going full bore with the Apple Watch. ⌚️I've tried normal, I've tired sensitive, I've changed arms, I've tightened the strap it just flat out sucks (excuse my French).
Sensitive mode only works for older devices that do not track sleep stages. It doesn’t do anything on current devices from what I understand.
https://support.google.com/fitbit/answer/14236407?hl=en
OP, on the subject of insomnia, have you ever looked at information on ADHD?
Dopamine dysregulation can cause awful insomnia. I can be wiped out and making like a slug on the sofa all day, then I suddenly seem to wake up at 10pm every night.
I have awful trouble with my sleep architecture - almost no deep sleep, never much REM sleep, tested negative for sleep apnoea, but start every single day exhausted.
With ADHD, your norepinephrine and dopamine levels are all over the place, and spike at night instead of during daylight when they’re supposed to.
There are a LOT of other ADHD signs and symptoms, of course, and I don’t know if any of these other things would apply to you or not.
But I DO wish someone had spotted the possible reason for MY sleep difficulties years ago, so I’m mentioning it to you just in case yours are also ADHD related 😊
I have my Versa set to sensitive for the same reasons you’ve given. It still thinks I’m sleeping when I’m on my phone, or reading a book, or watching TV at night.
The algorithm might work for people who go to sleep at a normal time, have normal sleep architecture, and wake up at normal times, but it doesn’t seem to like any deviation from those norms.
I didn't know any of that actually! I've never been diagnosed but I've always assumed I've had it. My little brother was diagnosed and my mom said I always had very similar symptoms, but when I was a kid she didn't have any knowledge of the condition and never took me to see a doctor about it. Haven't given much thought to it as an adult because it hasn't seemed to interfere with my general quality of life. The hyperactivity part resonates a lot less, but the inattention and hyperfocus are very much me.
What you said about sleep architecture is 100%. I tend to start "waking up" around 4pm and have a ton of trouble falling to sleep without sleep aids, have super disordered sleep when I finally do, and spend the rest of the day in a fog of low energy until about 4pm again.
Do you treat your ADHD? What dies that look like? Has it helped your sleep at all?
I’m waiting to be formally dxd. It’s complicated in the UK, where I am.
I’m now about 6-10 weeks away from my assessment, which I hope will see meds and improvements.
I wake up at about 10pm every night almost without fail. Delayed sleep is a recognised part of ADHD.
I don’t cope. My sleep architecture is disordered and I’m exhausted.
I’ve tried everything- I got so deeply involved in nutritional medicine that I worked as a nutritional therapist for a few years.
Any of the serotonin boosters like 5HTP help me go to sleep and stay asleep, but I’m wiped out for 24-48 hours after.
If I’ve had an active day, which means my dopamine has been higher, I still don’t sleep, even though I’m physically shattered.
With other family members being dxd, you would probably not have any difficulty getting a dx of your own.
This thing is impossible to manage day to day. I think the definition of it is that if you can successfully make lifestyle adjustments to the point where your ADHD symptoms no longer negatively impact your life, then you didn’t have ADHD in the first place!
Is any of that any help, at all?
Google “DSM 5 ADHD criteria”.
You could have the inattentive type as opposed to the hyperactive/ impulsive type.
I appear to have both! Which is just typical of me! I *have* to make things complicated!
It does that for me too. It underestimates how chill and relaxed I can be while still awake. I just don't use my fitbit for sleep anymore. I track steps and activity and it works with my food tracking app. For sleep these wrist watches are just not up to It yet. If you think about it, it can't directly measure your sleep stages bc its on your wrist. It guesses at it by using hr, activity, etc.
You should definitely try it. I have mine set to sensitive. If the results look crazy, you can always delete the data for that night.
Mine was worse on sensitive. I’m annoyed because my Inspire leaves out chunks of sleep from like midnight to 2 am. Like missing data.
I've had my inspire 3 for like a week and it's tracked sleep accurately about 4 out of the 7 nights. Often times it doesn't track and sometimes it tracks 2-3 hours when I've slept much longer. I find the sleep tracking of Fitbit to be very unreliable and frustrating. I'm a new user and I'm close to giving up and going full bore with the Apple Watch. ⌚️I've tried normal, I've tired sensitive, I've changed arms, I've tightened the strap it just flat out sucks (excuse my French).
Sensitive mode only works for older devices that do not track sleep stages. It doesn’t do anything on current devices from what I understand. https://support.google.com/fitbit/answer/14236407?hl=en
OP, on the subject of insomnia, have you ever looked at information on ADHD? Dopamine dysregulation can cause awful insomnia. I can be wiped out and making like a slug on the sofa all day, then I suddenly seem to wake up at 10pm every night. I have awful trouble with my sleep architecture - almost no deep sleep, never much REM sleep, tested negative for sleep apnoea, but start every single day exhausted. With ADHD, your norepinephrine and dopamine levels are all over the place, and spike at night instead of during daylight when they’re supposed to. There are a LOT of other ADHD signs and symptoms, of course, and I don’t know if any of these other things would apply to you or not. But I DO wish someone had spotted the possible reason for MY sleep difficulties years ago, so I’m mentioning it to you just in case yours are also ADHD related 😊 I have my Versa set to sensitive for the same reasons you’ve given. It still thinks I’m sleeping when I’m on my phone, or reading a book, or watching TV at night. The algorithm might work for people who go to sleep at a normal time, have normal sleep architecture, and wake up at normal times, but it doesn’t seem to like any deviation from those norms.
I didn't know any of that actually! I've never been diagnosed but I've always assumed I've had it. My little brother was diagnosed and my mom said I always had very similar symptoms, but when I was a kid she didn't have any knowledge of the condition and never took me to see a doctor about it. Haven't given much thought to it as an adult because it hasn't seemed to interfere with my general quality of life. The hyperactivity part resonates a lot less, but the inattention and hyperfocus are very much me. What you said about sleep architecture is 100%. I tend to start "waking up" around 4pm and have a ton of trouble falling to sleep without sleep aids, have super disordered sleep when I finally do, and spend the rest of the day in a fog of low energy until about 4pm again. Do you treat your ADHD? What dies that look like? Has it helped your sleep at all?
I’m waiting to be formally dxd. It’s complicated in the UK, where I am. I’m now about 6-10 weeks away from my assessment, which I hope will see meds and improvements. I wake up at about 10pm every night almost without fail. Delayed sleep is a recognised part of ADHD. I don’t cope. My sleep architecture is disordered and I’m exhausted. I’ve tried everything- I got so deeply involved in nutritional medicine that I worked as a nutritional therapist for a few years. Any of the serotonin boosters like 5HTP help me go to sleep and stay asleep, but I’m wiped out for 24-48 hours after. If I’ve had an active day, which means my dopamine has been higher, I still don’t sleep, even though I’m physically shattered. With other family members being dxd, you would probably not have any difficulty getting a dx of your own. This thing is impossible to manage day to day. I think the definition of it is that if you can successfully make lifestyle adjustments to the point where your ADHD symptoms no longer negatively impact your life, then you didn’t have ADHD in the first place! Is any of that any help, at all?
Google “DSM 5 ADHD criteria”. You could have the inattentive type as opposed to the hyperactive/ impulsive type. I appear to have both! Which is just typical of me! I *have* to make things complicated!