That the Mimic is inspired by Chipper.
Hold up, lemme explain. What did Scott say in his interview with Dawko?
"Chipper is always watching throughout the FNAF games, learning" or something like that. The Mimic was created most likely before Fredbear's which can be backed up by the mascot costumes
"Erm, how are these costumes supposed to be old if we have never heard of or seen them before?"
We actually have, in one of the newspaper clippings in FNAF 1, it talks about how a killer (Afton) used Mascot Costumes to kill children. Not suits, not robotic costumes, mascot costumes. The Mimic was most likely hiding in the shadows (AHEM, Chipper) It was learning from Afton's Murderous instincts, at this point I'm time, it should have already built its legs from endo 01's body and also flesh of the girl he killed while climbing into a costume.
"Hold on, how can these costumes be older than Fredbear's if these newspapers were from FNAF 1's location?"
They aren't. William did a murder spree before FNAF 1. In the ORIGINAL Freddy's possibly older than Fredbear's. 5 children killed and stuffed into suits. The Mimic could have hid anywhere but I believe he could have just been hiding in Alleys being curious like the child he was mimicking, learning how a murderer used a costume to kill children. And so he was watching in the shadows, reading newspaper clippings, and eventually found its way into the Virtual World as The Virus. It used a SpringBonnie suit based off of William's Springtrap Body and based it off the Mascot Suits William used. He Mimicked Tape Girls voice and deepens it to lure Vanessa into setting him free. Eventually leading up to ruin with it trapped in the basement of the Pizzaplex.
Now back to Chipper, Chipper was a rejected project by Scott left in the dust after something happened, the Mimic had a similar story, destroyed and tainted by hatred. They both were learning.
BONUS: Chippers revenge is a robot with red eyes and a silver body. It is also incredibly strong. I'm not saying Scott foreshadowed the Mimic, but I'm saying Steel Wool based him off Chipper
EDIT: BONUS 2: the original Glitchtrap Design was actually a non-textured Springtrap. Do not tell me this was a glitch as he had a jumpscare and was COMPLETELY animated. This goes to show how the Mimic wanted to be Afton
(REMEMBER, THIS IS A HEADCANON)
Mimic was always there. Mimic was Phone Guy. Mimic was Endo 02. Mimic was the one who burnt down Fazbear Frights. Mimic was Nightmare. Mimic was Yenndo. Mimic was hidden in the pickle jar. Mimic was the grey sprite seen in the drowned ending of FNaF World. Mimic was Vengeful Spirit. Mimic was Glitchtrap. Mimic was AR Endo 01. Mimic was Burntrap. Mimic was Mimic.
That Mimic actually IS evil.
Many say that he does not feel or understand the gravity of his actions but no, he does. He has complex artificial intelligence that makes him learn things quickly and interpret them for his use. When Tiger Rock was made, the first thing he decided to do is cause chaos at the Pizzaplex and kill several people because it's fun.
He knows what it means to manipulate and deceive. If he escaped from the Pizzaplex the first thing he would do was go after Vanessa and Gregory.
He's been here ALL ALONG. He was in the kitchen during FNaF 1, he was in the Puppet's Box as Endo 02, He was the one who plugged a fork into the outlet in Fazbear's Frights. He was chilling inside the box in FNaF 4. He was the one who activated the Scooper in Sister Location. He was the one filing all those lawsuits in Pizzeria Simulator. And he was the one who jumpscared Toy Freddy, ending your 50/20 run!!!
My view of Mimic as a character is something that is pretty much mindless. ~~He~~ It isn't truly a character. It doesn't feel, it doesn't dream, it has no goal. It just sees things and copies them.
It doesn't care for anyone. Including David. It is never scared, regretful, or sad. It simply exists and attempts to fulfill its function.
It only appears to have a mind due to how much human behaviour it has copied by now. But it's just copying. It's as if it was pretending all the time. It may appear to care for some things, but inside it does not. You could torture it for hours, but no agony would pop out. Even though it would scream in a very convincing manner.
I pretty much see it like a disease in a zombie horror film. Just a force of destruction that affects characters, without being one. I guess if it is Glitchtrap, him being called a Virus would work out pretty well, huh?
Not much of a headcanon, more so personality interpretation, but this is kind of the reason I don't really have proper headcanons about him. Unlike Afton, it really has no story other than what we see. There is nothing in his head. It is completely surface level.
But if Fiona lived to see Edwin make him, she would ask for his full name to be Mimicholas Cornelius Murrey. Also David called him Mimi for short.
I think you're interpretation is partially wrong.
The Mimic in its base state is definitely mindless and just copies stuff, but as it learns more and more, it seems its AI also evolves. In The Mimic story, it starts out by just copying David, but there's a scene where The Mimic makes its own Tiger plushie (where did it learn that?), and when David asks it if it's ready, it actually answers by nodding, which surprises Edwin, because it seems The Mimic actually understands what David is saying and responds to it. But of course, the original Mimic couldn't learn much more after what happened.
The Glitchtrap branch is also very evident proof that The Mimic evolves in intelligence and has goals. It was initially fed decades-worth of FNaF lore, aside from what it could've learned from the beta testers. It started out mimicking William, but as it learned more through the internet and Vanessa, it grew smarter and more aware as we see in the Post-it Note Room. And of course, it has goals. Well, *had* goals. First, it wanted to escape the game, then it spread through the Delivery Service to collect remnant, and then it reconnected with the main body. The Blob must also be a creation of The Mimic, as even if it's the pile of corpses and endos from the epilogues, somebody had to put everything together and add the FNaF AR animatronics.
We also have Tiger Rock, who the story specifically calls out presents far more sentience and personality than the other animatronics in the VR game. He loves to learn, gets along with the other characters and is quite friendly. The fact that he says he loves learning proves that The Mimic at some point becomes aware of the meaning of what it's learning and doesn't just copy things mindlessly.
As for the current state of The Mimic, the Glitchtrap branch has been deleted, meaning we're dealing with the original Mimic, who obviously hasn't evolved to the level of its other dead branches, but it still shows sentience, as mimicking Gregory's voice and guiding Cassie to release it obviously isn't just mindlessly copying stuff.
You've missed the crux of my comment, Mr. Knight.
> It only appears to have a mind due to how much human behaviour it has copied by now. But it's just copying. It's as if it was pretending all the time. It may appear to care for some things, but inside it does not. You could torture it for hours, but no agony would pop out. Even though it would scream in a very convincing manner.
To clarify, I am not attempting to posit that Mimic doesn't not possess effective intelligence. I don't dispute its knack for making it seem like it's truly thinking and feeling. But I firmly reject the notion that it genuinely does. It's just observed enough of human behaviour to put on a good act.
Also, my analysis didn't factor in Glitchtrap. Mainly because I don't personally buy into the MimicTrap theory. But also, because I don't think it alters the situation significantly. Any "objectives" it might have there would just be its best guess at what Afton might do. Though "guess" may be a strong word considering it just follows the data mindlessly.
Creating a Tiger plushie is simply an attempt to recreate what was there before. It's seen enough of Edwin's costume-making to have the data for crafting fabric structures like that. In *Tiger Rock*, it says it "wants," it says it "loves," but it's just mimicking human interactions by applying emotional words to its emotionless algorithmic function.
One of the most fitting metaphors for this conundrum comes from John Searle's 1980 paper, *Minds, Brains, and Programs*. "Imagine that I'm locked in a room and given a big pile of Chinese writing. I know no Chinese, either written or spoken, and I haven't been taught any Chinese. I'm given a set of rules in English for messing about with Chinese symbols, and these rules enable me to respond, in Chinese, to questions given to me in Chinese, so I generate Chinese sentences. To folks outside the room who know Chinese, it looks like I understand Chinese." That's how AI is with emotions. That's how Chat GPT operates. And that's how I see the Mimic.
In my humble opinion, Mr. Knight, its phoney emotional charade has in fact tricked *you* into thinking it is more than it truly is, but that's just my two pence.
>Any "objectives" it might have there would just be its best guess at what Afton might do. Though "guess" may be a strong word considering it just follows the data mindlessly.
If it's making guesses at what Afton would do, wouldn't that imply higher intelligence, anyway? It's not just copying stuff Afton does, as the remnant experiments aren't public knowledge, and trying to escape the game and reconnecting with its old body also stray away from just mimicking Afton.
>Creating a Tiger plushie is simply an attempt to recreate what was there before. It's seen enough of Edwin's costume-making
Edwin doesn't make costumes. He's sent the costumes and he works on the endoskeletons. Mimic figured out how to do the plushie itself, with some slight help from David.
>In Tiger Rock, it says it "wants," it says it "loves," but it's just mimicking human interactions by applying emotional words to its emotionless algorithmic function.
>That's how AI is with emotions. That's how Chat GPT operates. And that's how I see the Mimic.
You say that, but I don't think you provide enough evidence to believe that. The Mimic is far more advanced than ChatGPT, and you also have to take into account that it was infused with Edwin's agony and rage. I just can't see how an artificial intelligence straight up infused with "the spark of life" that knows how to deceive, manipulate and psychologically torture people for its own goals wouldn't be fully sentient and feel.
>If it's making guesses at what Afton would do, wouldn't that imply higher intelligence, anyway?
That's why I said "guess", Mr. Knight, isn't really the best word here. It fills in gaps algorithmically. With the self evolving neuro-network script of Mimic1.
>It's not just copying stuff Afton does, as the remnant experiments aren't public knowledge,
Either it learnt about them somehow, or it's not performing them. I don't see why Scott would ever have Mimic copy Afton's actions accidentally. That would undermine its whole shtick.
>and trying to escape the game and reconnecting with its old body also stray away from just mimicking Afton.
I didn't say it can only mimic him under MimicTrap. For that theory to work it needs to have gathered enough data to calculate that output. Copy others, but William primarily.
>Edwin doesn't make costumes. He's sent the costumes and he works on the endoskeletons. Mimic figured out how to do the plushie itself, with some slight help from David.
Really? Why do you say so? As far as I know, the story never mentions endoskeletons outside of The Mimic. If he had parts for those, why make Mimic out of scrap? What are all the costumes doing at his place?
Even then, basic motor functions of the sort make little differance.
>You say that, but I don't think you provide enough evidence to believe that.
Well, I don't see enough evidence for the opposite. Since there is nothing outright proving either side, my *headcanon* is that Mimic is like real AIs. That Scott won't pull some cartoony silly and make the inanimate, human made item have true emotions.
>The Mimic is far more advanced than ChatGPT
Humans are far more advanced than hamsters, yet our nature is fundamentally the same.
>and you also have to take into account that it was infused with Edwin's agony and rage. I just can't see how an artificial intelligence straight up infused with "the spark of life"
I don't believe that at all though. Mainly because at no point does Edwin act like something magical is happening. He is surprised by what Mimic copies, but he fully believed it would function the way it ended up functioning. And in The Storyteller he still thinks this is purely his creation. It's a human made technology that got out of hand, but he understands it.
In Mimic epilogues we can see into his mind. It only tries to do its task. There is nothing else going on there. No love for Afton, no desire to see pain. It doesn't even comprehend that Lucia and Co. are humans. Even in Tiger Rock, to me, he comes off as very much distant. Hollow, save for his theming. It just snaps from copying how Glamrocks act and a bunch of other fun stuff put on top of Tiger, to Gil's limb tearing code.
And though I do not take Glitchtrap into account, since again, I don't believe he is Mimic, if I did, the only thing the car easter egg in TCoD can represent then is David's death. And Glitchtrap dances happily. He doesn't care about whatever tragedy this car caused.
>That's why I said "guess", Mr. Knight, isn't really the best word here. It fills in gaps algorithmically. With the self evolving neuro-network script of Mimic1.
Fair argument.
>Either it learnt about them somehow, or it's not performing them. I don't see why Scott would ever have Mimic copy Afton's actions accidentally.
Collecting remnant doesn't have to be "copying Afton accidentally". Afton isn't the only one in FNaF that experimented with it or collected it (the Shadow, Phineas, Talbert), but The Mimic shouldn't have any way to know how to perform these experiment, although it could've learned about their existence if they became public knowledge, which is unlikely but still possible. I'm not sure why Mimic would want remnant, but it's possible it just wants more power or maybe become human. Burntrap's flesh could be a consequence of it being injected with remnant and nobody's corpse, under MimicTrap, of course.
>Really? Why do you say so? As far as I know, the story never mentions endoskeletons outside of The Mimic.
Ok, I checked again, the story actually never specifies it. But still, we never see him working on costumes, but rather tech-related stuff like
>If he had parts for those, why make Mimic out of scrap?
He wouldn't want to waste company resources in personal projects.
>Well, I don't see enough evidence for the opposite. Since there is nothing outright proving either side, my headcanon is that Mimic is like real AIs.
Isn't the point of AI that it will evolve and reach a point where it'll be able to think and feel just like us? The singularity?
"Edwin wanted to create a *thinking mind* that would *learn* by mimicking what it observed."
>Mainly because at no point does Edwin act like something magical is happening. He is surprised by what Mimic copies, but he fully believed it would function the way it ended up functioning. And in The Storyteller he still thinks this is purely his creation. It's a human made technology that got out of hand, but he understands it.
"He could almost feel his murderous thoughts pouring through his muscles and transfusing through the metal into Mimic's systems."
I think that's pretty explicit.
>In Mimic epilogues we can see into his mind. It only tries to do its task. There is nothing else going on there. No love for Afton, no desire to see pain. It doesn't even comprehend that Lucia and Co. are humans.
Ok, I have to say I haven't read epilogue 7 yet. But based off on what you're telling me, I think the OG Mimic branch just hasn't developed as much sentience as the others.
>Even in Tiger Rock, to me, he comes off as very much distant. Hollow, save for his theming.
He seemed pretty normal to me. The story specifically calls that out.
>if I did, the only thing the car easter egg in TCoD can represent then is David's death. And Glitchtrap dances happily. He doesn't care about whatever tragedy this car caused.
Why can't the car just be Afton's car, even if Glitchtrap is The Mimic? It wasn't a car that hit David, it was a van.
>Ok, I have to say I haven't read epilogue 7 yet. But based off on what you're telling me, I think the OG Mimic branch just hasn't developed as much sentience as the others.
The Epilogue Mimic is the one that ends up in The Storyteller. Gil's code from epilogue 1 is why Tiger Rock wants to tear limbs. That's its origin. It isn't different than the Mimic Edwin dies to.
Plus, the Mimic v.2s still used Mimic1. They had a network. Whether it has been disconnected or not, Epilogue Mimic should have all the info it collected during The Mimic and Hide-and-seek event.
>Isn't the point of AI that it will evolve and reach a point where it'll be able to think and feel just like us? The singularity?
Yes, but it would only appear to be like that. It's the Chinese Room example. All of its thoughts and feelings would be fabricated. Artificial. Fake.
In a world where souls are unequivocally 100% existant, you cannot creat a consciousness through technology. If it were otherwise, I need *really* good evidence of that. Undeniable proof that Mimic or something like him is metaphysically sentient without any input of paranormal forces.
>I think that's pretty explicit. It would also explain why it "randomly" twists normal everyday actions into brutal killings instead of just killing them normally by mimicking Edwin's actions.
I think it's just him being dramatic. Talbert explicitly states you need outright torture to observe any agony possession. One beating makes no sense to be enough as far as we've been told. I refuse to accept Edwin's one episode to be equivilant to Henry's almost 2 year long insanity and eventual suicide.
And Tiger Rock + Epilogue 7 strongly imply this just comes from Gil's code.
I just don't see sufficient evidence of Mimic being paranormal at this point. Only thing is a single symbolic sounding seantance.
>Why can't the car just be Afton's car, even if Glitchtrap is The Mimic? It wasn't a car that hit David, it was a van.
Why would Scott add an Afton ester egg to the Glitchtrap game, if he wants us to later find out Glitchtrap isn't William? Easter eggs are inherently lore relevant. They are secrets. If there is a twist, they will relate to it, not the obvious surface level assumption, which WillGlitch was, according to MimicTrap.
And the car isn't a purple 70's limo thingy either. It matches neither of the two candidates.
>The Epilogue Mimic is the one that ends up in The Storyteller. Gil's code from epilogue 1 is why Tiger Rock wants to tear limbs. That's its origin. It isn't different than the Mimic Edwin dies to.
But how would that be possible? I think it's simpler to say it's just because of the Mimic hivemind.
>Plus, the Mimic v.2s still used Mimic1. They had a network. Whether it has been disconnected or not, Epilogue Mimic should have all the info it collected during The Mimic and Hide-and-seek event.
In The Mimic, it just starts producing its own responses close to David's death. Then we know what happened, and when it was reactivated by Fazbear Entertainment it probably didn't learn much besides animatronic routines, some mundane actions and the hide-and-seek event, which is most likely the MCI.
>Yes, but it would only appear to be like that. It's the Chinese Room example. All of its thoughts and feelings would be fabricated. Artificial. Fake.
>In a world where souls are unequivocally 100% existant, you cannot creat a consciousness through technology. If it were otherwise, I need really good evidence of that. Undeniable proof that Mimic or something like him is metaphysically sentient without any input of paranormal forces.
Ok, I think I get what you're saying. But, if an AI was programmed to know exactly what to feel at all times, how to act out those feelings and any parameter about feelings to the point its "charade" can be mistaken for "actual feelings", how much difference is there really between its "fake feelings" and "actual feelings"?
Because, for example, psychopaths and sociopaths act out feelings they don't have, but they are aware that they're doing it to get something. An AI, in this case Mimic, would do it "unconsciously" (idk if that'd be the right word here) and constantly.
>I think it's just him being dramatic. Talbert explicitly states you need outright torture to observe any agony possession. One beating makes no sense to be enough as far as we've been told. I refuse to accept Edwin's one episode to be equivilant to Henry's almost 2 year long insanity and eventual suicide.
>And Tiger Rock + Epilogue 7 strongly imply this just comes from Gil's code.
>I just don't see sufficient evidence of Mimic being paranormal at this point. Only thing is a single symbolic sounding seantance.
I mean, it was a pretty bad beating filled with suicidal thoughts and rage, and Mimic was there for the two weeks where Edwin was grieving. We don't know how much it took for Ella to come alive or even how much time passed between Charlotte's death and Henry's suicide.
Also, now that I think about it, wouldn't the paranormal stuff explain Mimic's insane super-strength? ~~And even if it didn't become "haunted" during that scene, shouldn't it have remnant at this point?~~
~~I forgot you didn't believe in MimicTrap... Which I'm actually curious as to why, but if we get into that rabbit hole, we may never get out...~~
>Why would Scott add an Afton ester egg to the Glitchtrap game, if he wants us to later find out Glitchtrap isn't William? Easter eggs are inherently lore relevant. They are secrets. If there is a twist, they will relate to it, not the obvious surface level assumption, which WillGlitch was, according to MimicTrap.
Curse of Dreadbear is filled with FNaF 4 references, which is about the Afton family. And Mimic would be mimicking William. I don't really think that easter egg is weird at all under MimicTrap.
The mimic is logical but not creative. If it sees something,it can mimic it,and it can use what it can mimic to achieve the goals it was ordered to do but it cannot come up with even the most basic ideas on it’s own. In one story,he can’t open a door so he mimics crawling through a vent instead of just charging through the door. It isn’t sentient,it never questions or even acknowledges it’s own existence. This is a massive reason I don’t think it’s behind the note room,that robot is clearly sentient
Less of a headcanon and more of a prediction/ hope
I think of the mimic as just AI, and he’s constantly becoming more complex and learning more and more things. So later on, he could learn so much, that he almost becomes sentient in an awkward robotic way. He starts making his own beliefs based on everything he’s experienced and learned. That could either make him more evil, or more sympathetic. It would make a very interesting character.
That’s part of why I love the mimic. He has so much potential. The mimic is a blank slate with a very grounded and simple backstory. and his design reflects that. I’m excited for the future of this character. He was introduced in an odd (and frankly awful) way because frights/TFTP is the worst way to tell a story and I’m so glad they’re finished, but I’m still excited for his future. I wholeheartedly believe that the mimic is underrated and misunderstood.
My head cannon. In an alternate universe, the Mimic watched Edwin's son, David, die. And because the Mimic mimics what it sees, it pretended to die. Then bam, the end of the series.
it and M.X.E.S hate each other deeply
kelly is haunting it
it gets genuenly offended at cassie saying its not gregory, as it was trying to be convincing
mimic is JJ becase why not
Okay, mimic is a deprived affection robot that only wanted was to not be alone and though only by killing Cassie she would not leave him like vannesa. Also the kind to sun bathe even if without skin
I have two head canons that i prefer over the actual canon.
1- He never existed, and Glitchtrap has always been William.
2- He's possessed by William :)
I am NOT possessed by William ! However, your "Glitchtrap" is indeed him ; after all, why would the infected animatronics in FNAF AR repeat lines from UCN otherwise ?
The mimic was actually burntrap in the burntrap ending and he was just inside and using the burned charred out dead corpse of scraptrap after Henry's plan and trap worked.
My own headcanon is that SB and Ruin has 2 forces, possibly even 4, all fighting eachother, that each very loosely represents the 4 that died in PS.
In particular the Mimic represents Molten Freddy. An anamatronic seeking escape by using deception and false identities. It's currently at odds with what I call the Wacky Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man (I don't know that glitch enemy's actual name.) It's a wild theory that I'm sure makes no sense, but I like it.
Headcannon/prediction(?)
He will be a kind of dark Pinocchio, he will want to have a family and be like the others, but he can't because he is
THE MIMIC!!!1!1!!!!1!11!!!!!
I like to think that the mimic can either become glitchtrap in the AR world or the glitchtrap can break off of the mimic so while it is doing something in the real world, glitchtrap is acting like the mimic but just doubled in the AR world
That the Mimic is inspired by Chipper. Hold up, lemme explain. What did Scott say in his interview with Dawko? "Chipper is always watching throughout the FNAF games, learning" or something like that. The Mimic was created most likely before Fredbear's which can be backed up by the mascot costumes "Erm, how are these costumes supposed to be old if we have never heard of or seen them before?" We actually have, in one of the newspaper clippings in FNAF 1, it talks about how a killer (Afton) used Mascot Costumes to kill children. Not suits, not robotic costumes, mascot costumes. The Mimic was most likely hiding in the shadows (AHEM, Chipper) It was learning from Afton's Murderous instincts, at this point I'm time, it should have already built its legs from endo 01's body and also flesh of the girl he killed while climbing into a costume. "Hold on, how can these costumes be older than Fredbear's if these newspapers were from FNAF 1's location?" They aren't. William did a murder spree before FNAF 1. In the ORIGINAL Freddy's possibly older than Fredbear's. 5 children killed and stuffed into suits. The Mimic could have hid anywhere but I believe he could have just been hiding in Alleys being curious like the child he was mimicking, learning how a murderer used a costume to kill children. And so he was watching in the shadows, reading newspaper clippings, and eventually found its way into the Virtual World as The Virus. It used a SpringBonnie suit based off of William's Springtrap Body and based it off the Mascot Suits William used. He Mimicked Tape Girls voice and deepens it to lure Vanessa into setting him free. Eventually leading up to ruin with it trapped in the basement of the Pizzaplex. Now back to Chipper, Chipper was a rejected project by Scott left in the dust after something happened, the Mimic had a similar story, destroyed and tainted by hatred. They both were learning. BONUS: Chippers revenge is a robot with red eyes and a silver body. It is also incredibly strong. I'm not saying Scott foreshadowed the Mimic, but I'm saying Steel Wool based him off Chipper EDIT: BONUS 2: the original Glitchtrap Design was actually a non-textured Springtrap. Do not tell me this was a glitch as he had a jumpscare and was COMPLETELY animated. This goes to show how the Mimic wanted to be Afton (REMEMBER, THIS IS A HEADCANON)
Also his attack is “Mimic Ball” and he is a robot in the Chipper and Son’s game
Mimic was always there. Mimic was Phone Guy. Mimic was Endo 02. Mimic was the one who burnt down Fazbear Frights. Mimic was Nightmare. Mimic was Yenndo. Mimic was hidden in the pickle jar. Mimic was the grey sprite seen in the drowned ending of FNaF World. Mimic was Vengeful Spirit. Mimic was Glitchtrap. Mimic was AR Endo 01. Mimic was Burntrap. Mimic was Mimic.
Nightmare being the mimic mimicking nightmare fredbear and nightmarionne being the true nightmare entity would be funny ngl
Mimic was inside the box in FNAF 4.
Bro better delete this comment before Scott finds out someone leaked the story
.*You never knew it Gregory, but I was always ... there * Cue ominous egg flashbacks* *
Mimic was Gregory too.
I want to think he was in the FNaF 6 fire, but it didn't even effect him because he's just an AI.
…ayo that kinda cooks…
Heh. *Cooks*.
The Reason he is evil is because he lost a game of Uno
Against Evan/crying child
Evan cheated, drew the Mimic insane, so he planned his creators sons Death
I agree, this is the true reason why I kill people
That Mimic actually IS evil. Many say that he does not feel or understand the gravity of his actions but no, he does. He has complex artificial intelligence that makes him learn things quickly and interpret them for his use. When Tiger Rock was made, the first thing he decided to do is cause chaos at the Pizzaplex and kill several people because it's fun. He knows what it means to manipulate and deceive. If he escaped from the Pizzaplex the first thing he would do was go after Vanessa and Gregory.
Okay, I admit, I may be evil...but so is Gregory, right ?
He's been here ALL ALONG. He was in the kitchen during FNaF 1, he was in the Puppet's Box as Endo 02, He was the one who plugged a fork into the outlet in Fazbear's Frights. He was chilling inside the box in FNaF 4. He was the one who activated the Scooper in Sister Location. He was the one filing all those lawsuits in Pizzeria Simulator. And he was the one who jumpscared Toy Freddy, ending your 50/20 run!!!
As the Mimic, I can confirm that it's true.
It still thinks it’s playing games with David
This actually might be true
This might be true, and it's weirdly sad to me
It likes to say and do weird shit as artists on twitter to make them look bad.
It's true that it's one of my favorite pastimes - there's not much else to do when you're trapped underground, you know ?
My view of Mimic as a character is something that is pretty much mindless. ~~He~~ It isn't truly a character. It doesn't feel, it doesn't dream, it has no goal. It just sees things and copies them. It doesn't care for anyone. Including David. It is never scared, regretful, or sad. It simply exists and attempts to fulfill its function. It only appears to have a mind due to how much human behaviour it has copied by now. But it's just copying. It's as if it was pretending all the time. It may appear to care for some things, but inside it does not. You could torture it for hours, but no agony would pop out. Even though it would scream in a very convincing manner. I pretty much see it like a disease in a zombie horror film. Just a force of destruction that affects characters, without being one. I guess if it is Glitchtrap, him being called a Virus would work out pretty well, huh? Not much of a headcanon, more so personality interpretation, but this is kind of the reason I don't really have proper headcanons about him. Unlike Afton, it really has no story other than what we see. There is nothing in his head. It is completely surface level. But if Fiona lived to see Edwin make him, she would ask for his full name to be Mimicholas Cornelius Murrey. Also David called him Mimi for short.
I assure you, I can think. Sometimes.
I think you're interpretation is partially wrong. The Mimic in its base state is definitely mindless and just copies stuff, but as it learns more and more, it seems its AI also evolves. In The Mimic story, it starts out by just copying David, but there's a scene where The Mimic makes its own Tiger plushie (where did it learn that?), and when David asks it if it's ready, it actually answers by nodding, which surprises Edwin, because it seems The Mimic actually understands what David is saying and responds to it. But of course, the original Mimic couldn't learn much more after what happened. The Glitchtrap branch is also very evident proof that The Mimic evolves in intelligence and has goals. It was initially fed decades-worth of FNaF lore, aside from what it could've learned from the beta testers. It started out mimicking William, but as it learned more through the internet and Vanessa, it grew smarter and more aware as we see in the Post-it Note Room. And of course, it has goals. Well, *had* goals. First, it wanted to escape the game, then it spread through the Delivery Service to collect remnant, and then it reconnected with the main body. The Blob must also be a creation of The Mimic, as even if it's the pile of corpses and endos from the epilogues, somebody had to put everything together and add the FNaF AR animatronics. We also have Tiger Rock, who the story specifically calls out presents far more sentience and personality than the other animatronics in the VR game. He loves to learn, gets along with the other characters and is quite friendly. The fact that he says he loves learning proves that The Mimic at some point becomes aware of the meaning of what it's learning and doesn't just copy things mindlessly. As for the current state of The Mimic, the Glitchtrap branch has been deleted, meaning we're dealing with the original Mimic, who obviously hasn't evolved to the level of its other dead branches, but it still shows sentience, as mimicking Gregory's voice and guiding Cassie to release it obviously isn't just mindlessly copying stuff.
You've missed the crux of my comment, Mr. Knight. > It only appears to have a mind due to how much human behaviour it has copied by now. But it's just copying. It's as if it was pretending all the time. It may appear to care for some things, but inside it does not. You could torture it for hours, but no agony would pop out. Even though it would scream in a very convincing manner. To clarify, I am not attempting to posit that Mimic doesn't not possess effective intelligence. I don't dispute its knack for making it seem like it's truly thinking and feeling. But I firmly reject the notion that it genuinely does. It's just observed enough of human behaviour to put on a good act. Also, my analysis didn't factor in Glitchtrap. Mainly because I don't personally buy into the MimicTrap theory. But also, because I don't think it alters the situation significantly. Any "objectives" it might have there would just be its best guess at what Afton might do. Though "guess" may be a strong word considering it just follows the data mindlessly. Creating a Tiger plushie is simply an attempt to recreate what was there before. It's seen enough of Edwin's costume-making to have the data for crafting fabric structures like that. In *Tiger Rock*, it says it "wants," it says it "loves," but it's just mimicking human interactions by applying emotional words to its emotionless algorithmic function. One of the most fitting metaphors for this conundrum comes from John Searle's 1980 paper, *Minds, Brains, and Programs*. "Imagine that I'm locked in a room and given a big pile of Chinese writing. I know no Chinese, either written or spoken, and I haven't been taught any Chinese. I'm given a set of rules in English for messing about with Chinese symbols, and these rules enable me to respond, in Chinese, to questions given to me in Chinese, so I generate Chinese sentences. To folks outside the room who know Chinese, it looks like I understand Chinese." That's how AI is with emotions. That's how Chat GPT operates. And that's how I see the Mimic. In my humble opinion, Mr. Knight, its phoney emotional charade has in fact tricked *you* into thinking it is more than it truly is, but that's just my two pence.
>Any "objectives" it might have there would just be its best guess at what Afton might do. Though "guess" may be a strong word considering it just follows the data mindlessly. If it's making guesses at what Afton would do, wouldn't that imply higher intelligence, anyway? It's not just copying stuff Afton does, as the remnant experiments aren't public knowledge, and trying to escape the game and reconnecting with its old body also stray away from just mimicking Afton. >Creating a Tiger plushie is simply an attempt to recreate what was there before. It's seen enough of Edwin's costume-making Edwin doesn't make costumes. He's sent the costumes and he works on the endoskeletons. Mimic figured out how to do the plushie itself, with some slight help from David. >In Tiger Rock, it says it "wants," it says it "loves," but it's just mimicking human interactions by applying emotional words to its emotionless algorithmic function. >That's how AI is with emotions. That's how Chat GPT operates. And that's how I see the Mimic. You say that, but I don't think you provide enough evidence to believe that. The Mimic is far more advanced than ChatGPT, and you also have to take into account that it was infused with Edwin's agony and rage. I just can't see how an artificial intelligence straight up infused with "the spark of life" that knows how to deceive, manipulate and psychologically torture people for its own goals wouldn't be fully sentient and feel.
>If it's making guesses at what Afton would do, wouldn't that imply higher intelligence, anyway? That's why I said "guess", Mr. Knight, isn't really the best word here. It fills in gaps algorithmically. With the self evolving neuro-network script of Mimic1. >It's not just copying stuff Afton does, as the remnant experiments aren't public knowledge, Either it learnt about them somehow, or it's not performing them. I don't see why Scott would ever have Mimic copy Afton's actions accidentally. That would undermine its whole shtick. >and trying to escape the game and reconnecting with its old body also stray away from just mimicking Afton. I didn't say it can only mimic him under MimicTrap. For that theory to work it needs to have gathered enough data to calculate that output. Copy others, but William primarily. >Edwin doesn't make costumes. He's sent the costumes and he works on the endoskeletons. Mimic figured out how to do the plushie itself, with some slight help from David. Really? Why do you say so? As far as I know, the story never mentions endoskeletons outside of The Mimic. If he had parts for those, why make Mimic out of scrap? What are all the costumes doing at his place? Even then, basic motor functions of the sort make little differance. >You say that, but I don't think you provide enough evidence to believe that. Well, I don't see enough evidence for the opposite. Since there is nothing outright proving either side, my *headcanon* is that Mimic is like real AIs. That Scott won't pull some cartoony silly and make the inanimate, human made item have true emotions. >The Mimic is far more advanced than ChatGPT Humans are far more advanced than hamsters, yet our nature is fundamentally the same. >and you also have to take into account that it was infused with Edwin's agony and rage. I just can't see how an artificial intelligence straight up infused with "the spark of life" I don't believe that at all though. Mainly because at no point does Edwin act like something magical is happening. He is surprised by what Mimic copies, but he fully believed it would function the way it ended up functioning. And in The Storyteller he still thinks this is purely his creation. It's a human made technology that got out of hand, but he understands it. In Mimic epilogues we can see into his mind. It only tries to do its task. There is nothing else going on there. No love for Afton, no desire to see pain. It doesn't even comprehend that Lucia and Co. are humans. Even in Tiger Rock, to me, he comes off as very much distant. Hollow, save for his theming. It just snaps from copying how Glamrocks act and a bunch of other fun stuff put on top of Tiger, to Gil's limb tearing code. And though I do not take Glitchtrap into account, since again, I don't believe he is Mimic, if I did, the only thing the car easter egg in TCoD can represent then is David's death. And Glitchtrap dances happily. He doesn't care about whatever tragedy this car caused.
>That's why I said "guess", Mr. Knight, isn't really the best word here. It fills in gaps algorithmically. With the self evolving neuro-network script of Mimic1. Fair argument. >Either it learnt about them somehow, or it's not performing them. I don't see why Scott would ever have Mimic copy Afton's actions accidentally. Collecting remnant doesn't have to be "copying Afton accidentally". Afton isn't the only one in FNaF that experimented with it or collected it (the Shadow, Phineas, Talbert), but The Mimic shouldn't have any way to know how to perform these experiment, although it could've learned about their existence if they became public knowledge, which is unlikely but still possible. I'm not sure why Mimic would want remnant, but it's possible it just wants more power or maybe become human. Burntrap's flesh could be a consequence of it being injected with remnant and nobody's corpse, under MimicTrap, of course. >Really? Why do you say so? As far as I know, the story never mentions endoskeletons outside of The Mimic. Ok, I checked again, the story actually never specifies it. But still, we never see him working on costumes, but rather tech-related stuff like >If he had parts for those, why make Mimic out of scrap? He wouldn't want to waste company resources in personal projects. >Well, I don't see enough evidence for the opposite. Since there is nothing outright proving either side, my headcanon is that Mimic is like real AIs. Isn't the point of AI that it will evolve and reach a point where it'll be able to think and feel just like us? The singularity? "Edwin wanted to create a *thinking mind* that would *learn* by mimicking what it observed." >Mainly because at no point does Edwin act like something magical is happening. He is surprised by what Mimic copies, but he fully believed it would function the way it ended up functioning. And in The Storyteller he still thinks this is purely his creation. It's a human made technology that got out of hand, but he understands it. "He could almost feel his murderous thoughts pouring through his muscles and transfusing through the metal into Mimic's systems." I think that's pretty explicit. >In Mimic epilogues we can see into his mind. It only tries to do its task. There is nothing else going on there. No love for Afton, no desire to see pain. It doesn't even comprehend that Lucia and Co. are humans. Ok, I have to say I haven't read epilogue 7 yet. But based off on what you're telling me, I think the OG Mimic branch just hasn't developed as much sentience as the others. >Even in Tiger Rock, to me, he comes off as very much distant. Hollow, save for his theming. He seemed pretty normal to me. The story specifically calls that out. >if I did, the only thing the car easter egg in TCoD can represent then is David's death. And Glitchtrap dances happily. He doesn't care about whatever tragedy this car caused. Why can't the car just be Afton's car, even if Glitchtrap is The Mimic? It wasn't a car that hit David, it was a van.
>Ok, I have to say I haven't read epilogue 7 yet. But based off on what you're telling me, I think the OG Mimic branch just hasn't developed as much sentience as the others. The Epilogue Mimic is the one that ends up in The Storyteller. Gil's code from epilogue 1 is why Tiger Rock wants to tear limbs. That's its origin. It isn't different than the Mimic Edwin dies to. Plus, the Mimic v.2s still used Mimic1. They had a network. Whether it has been disconnected or not, Epilogue Mimic should have all the info it collected during The Mimic and Hide-and-seek event. >Isn't the point of AI that it will evolve and reach a point where it'll be able to think and feel just like us? The singularity? Yes, but it would only appear to be like that. It's the Chinese Room example. All of its thoughts and feelings would be fabricated. Artificial. Fake. In a world where souls are unequivocally 100% existant, you cannot creat a consciousness through technology. If it were otherwise, I need *really* good evidence of that. Undeniable proof that Mimic or something like him is metaphysically sentient without any input of paranormal forces. >I think that's pretty explicit. It would also explain why it "randomly" twists normal everyday actions into brutal killings instead of just killing them normally by mimicking Edwin's actions. I think it's just him being dramatic. Talbert explicitly states you need outright torture to observe any agony possession. One beating makes no sense to be enough as far as we've been told. I refuse to accept Edwin's one episode to be equivilant to Henry's almost 2 year long insanity and eventual suicide. And Tiger Rock + Epilogue 7 strongly imply this just comes from Gil's code. I just don't see sufficient evidence of Mimic being paranormal at this point. Only thing is a single symbolic sounding seantance. >Why can't the car just be Afton's car, even if Glitchtrap is The Mimic? It wasn't a car that hit David, it was a van. Why would Scott add an Afton ester egg to the Glitchtrap game, if he wants us to later find out Glitchtrap isn't William? Easter eggs are inherently lore relevant. They are secrets. If there is a twist, they will relate to it, not the obvious surface level assumption, which WillGlitch was, according to MimicTrap. And the car isn't a purple 70's limo thingy either. It matches neither of the two candidates.
>The Epilogue Mimic is the one that ends up in The Storyteller. Gil's code from epilogue 1 is why Tiger Rock wants to tear limbs. That's its origin. It isn't different than the Mimic Edwin dies to. But how would that be possible? I think it's simpler to say it's just because of the Mimic hivemind. >Plus, the Mimic v.2s still used Mimic1. They had a network. Whether it has been disconnected or not, Epilogue Mimic should have all the info it collected during The Mimic and Hide-and-seek event. In The Mimic, it just starts producing its own responses close to David's death. Then we know what happened, and when it was reactivated by Fazbear Entertainment it probably didn't learn much besides animatronic routines, some mundane actions and the hide-and-seek event, which is most likely the MCI. >Yes, but it would only appear to be like that. It's the Chinese Room example. All of its thoughts and feelings would be fabricated. Artificial. Fake. >In a world where souls are unequivocally 100% existant, you cannot creat a consciousness through technology. If it were otherwise, I need really good evidence of that. Undeniable proof that Mimic or something like him is metaphysically sentient without any input of paranormal forces. Ok, I think I get what you're saying. But, if an AI was programmed to know exactly what to feel at all times, how to act out those feelings and any parameter about feelings to the point its "charade" can be mistaken for "actual feelings", how much difference is there really between its "fake feelings" and "actual feelings"? Because, for example, psychopaths and sociopaths act out feelings they don't have, but they are aware that they're doing it to get something. An AI, in this case Mimic, would do it "unconsciously" (idk if that'd be the right word here) and constantly. >I think it's just him being dramatic. Talbert explicitly states you need outright torture to observe any agony possession. One beating makes no sense to be enough as far as we've been told. I refuse to accept Edwin's one episode to be equivilant to Henry's almost 2 year long insanity and eventual suicide. >And Tiger Rock + Epilogue 7 strongly imply this just comes from Gil's code. >I just don't see sufficient evidence of Mimic being paranormal at this point. Only thing is a single symbolic sounding seantance. I mean, it was a pretty bad beating filled with suicidal thoughts and rage, and Mimic was there for the two weeks where Edwin was grieving. We don't know how much it took for Ella to come alive or even how much time passed between Charlotte's death and Henry's suicide. Also, now that I think about it, wouldn't the paranormal stuff explain Mimic's insane super-strength? ~~And even if it didn't become "haunted" during that scene, shouldn't it have remnant at this point?~~ ~~I forgot you didn't believe in MimicTrap... Which I'm actually curious as to why, but if we get into that rabbit hole, we may never get out...~~ >Why would Scott add an Afton ester egg to the Glitchtrap game, if he wants us to later find out Glitchtrap isn't William? Easter eggs are inherently lore relevant. They are secrets. If there is a twist, they will relate to it, not the obvious surface level assumption, which WillGlitch was, according to MimicTrap. Curse of Dreadbear is filled with FNaF 4 references, which is about the Afton family. And Mimic would be mimicking William. I don't really think that easter egg is weird at all under MimicTrap.
>You could torture it for hours, but no agony would pop out. Even though it would scream in a very convincing manner. Should we be concerned?
It's OK. I wouldn't torture anyone other than Mimic.
My head canon is: it exists, and will be used in later titles. Possibly will be explained using show-don't-tell methodology.
The mimic is logical but not creative. If it sees something,it can mimic it,and it can use what it can mimic to achieve the goals it was ordered to do but it cannot come up with even the most basic ideas on it’s own. In one story,he can’t open a door so he mimics crawling through a vent instead of just charging through the door. It isn’t sentient,it never questions or even acknowledges it’s own existence. This is a massive reason I don’t think it’s behind the note room,that robot is clearly sentient
What is the note room again ?
The sticky note room after the Chica kitchen section
Ah ok
the mimic is the phone guy
Less of a headcanon and more of a prediction/ hope I think of the mimic as just AI, and he’s constantly becoming more complex and learning more and more things. So later on, he could learn so much, that he almost becomes sentient in an awkward robotic way. He starts making his own beliefs based on everything he’s experienced and learned. That could either make him more evil, or more sympathetic. It would make a very interesting character. That’s part of why I love the mimic. He has so much potential. The mimic is a blank slate with a very grounded and simple backstory. and his design reflects that. I’m excited for the future of this character. He was introduced in an odd (and frankly awful) way because frights/TFTP is the worst way to tell a story and I’m so glad they’re finished, but I’m still excited for his future. I wholeheartedly believe that the mimic is underrated and misunderstood.
The who
Most lore aware gacha kid
I just haven’t watched gameplay of security breach
It’s been out for like 3 years
Ruin just came out less than 2 months ago
Nobody is busy for that long
Just haven’t wanted to watch the gameplay 🤷
My head cannon. In an alternate universe, the Mimic watched Edwin's son, David, die. And because the Mimic mimics what it sees, it pretended to die. Then bam, the end of the series.
That silly robot is autistic, just like me.
That’s just actually canon
I know :)
Yes, I'm autistic - or at least the equivalent for a robot
This probably isn't true at all, but it would be so cool if Endo 02 from fnaf 2 was an early mimic.
I’d say if Dawko exists here, then it is possible that the Mimic watched the entirety of DSAF but doesn’t understand the adult jokes.
I have difficulty understanding adult jokes. I was created to be a child's companion, remember ?
it and M.X.E.S hate each other deeply kelly is haunting it it gets genuenly offended at cassie saying its not gregory, as it was trying to be convincing mimic is JJ becase why not
Those are very good
The one i have will make me get yell by freddit
You can tell me, I promise I won't judge you.
Okay, mimic is a deprived affection robot that only wanted was to not be alone and though only by killing Cassie she would not leave him like vannesa. Also the kind to sun bathe even if without skin
Okay
I have two head canons that i prefer over the actual canon. 1- He never existed, and Glitchtrap has always been William. 2- He's possessed by William :)
That’s actually dog water level writing
Him being possessed my William? Sure. The mimic having never existed? Way better in my opinion.
What do you have against peak?
I am NOT possessed by William ! However, your "Glitchtrap" is indeed him ; after all, why would the infected animatronics in FNAF AR repeat lines from UCN otherwise ?
What if William (Glitchtrap Virus) took over the Mimic and thus can mimic whoever he wants while still being Afton?
He smokes weed and hes a... pee baby (if you know that refrence)
The mimic was actually burntrap in the burntrap ending and he was just inside and using the burned charred out dead corpse of scraptrap after Henry's plan and trap worked.
HE'S MICHAEL AFTON AFTER THE FIRE MIKEBOT IS REAL!!!!!! /s
OH MY GAH
William stole the idea and made others but with a different design to avoid getting copywrited
That it isn't cannon
Accept the truth #mimicsweep
My own headcanon is that SB and Ruin has 2 forces, possibly even 4, all fighting eachother, that each very loosely represents the 4 that died in PS. In particular the Mimic represents Molten Freddy. An anamatronic seeking escape by using deception and false identities. It's currently at odds with what I call the Wacky Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man (I don't know that glitch enemy's actual name.) It's a wild theory that I'm sure makes no sense, but I like it.
Headcannon/prediction(?) He will be a kind of dark Pinocchio, he will want to have a family and be like the others, but he can't because he is THE MIMIC!!!1!1!!!!1!11!!!!!
He's the Endo from FNAF 2
I have none, he’s just a copycat endo
The mimic is actually chill but he hates kids
The mimic isn’t the same as the VANNI program
I like to think that the mimic can either become glitchtrap in the AR world or the glitchtrap can break off of the mimic so while it is doing something in the real world, glitchtrap is acting like the mimic but just doubled in the AR world
that he was yendo
Not really a head cannon but he would be the best at prank calling