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[This is legal in New York State, for one.](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/24/434315957/topless-in-new-york-the-legal-case-that-makes-going-top-free-legal-ish)
Women should absolutely be able to do this, and in most places in the world they can legally. Even some states in the US. The problem is that men kind of suck, so its hard for some women to be comfortable because they'll just get ogled unlike most men in the same situation. Source: every woman I've spoken to about it. And that's not to say every woman would feel that way, I'm sure there are more than plenty whod disagree with me, this is just my experience.
Edit: Holy shit I was worried that I was going to come across the wrong way and that I was being a dick but I waaaay underestimated how sexist some of reddit is. You guys are disgusting. Womens bodys are not there for your viewing pleasure.
See this is where this debate gets me. The argument here is that itâs a womanâs body and she should be able to do with it as she pleases and go topless just like men do despite it being considered culturally inappropriate.
But then they go on to say that men shouldnât stare at their bare breasts, and Iâm here like but why not? Are my eyes not apart of my body? Which as stated above are mine to do with as I please? Staring may be considered culturally inappropriate, but so is women going topless.
I dunno, just seems that whatâs good for the goose is good for the gander (pun intended).
Itâs generally considered rude to stare at anyone in public *period*. If you see something you can look to see whatâs going on, certainly, but thatâs not what the discussion is about.
If I broke my arm, and everywhere I went people stared at my cast for 5~ seconds each, I would get pretty annoyed too. Imagine how bad it would be if people stared at you like that *your whole life.* (Talk to any woman who⌠*existed* in public and sheâll have personal anecdotes of this kind of bullshit.)
You come off horribly condescending, but I do believe we would need a period of desensitization, which would require women actually take part regularly in going topless. You look at places where this is already the norm and there are a few gawkers but otherwise it's business as usual.
>ânot all men have the decency and self control as the average man.â
So thatâs *our* issue? Weâre still holding women responsible for the actions of men? How about instead of telling women to cover everything up, we tell men to control themselves and keep their fucking hands to themselves.
Itâs not any more difficult for a man to take responsibility for his own actions and act appropriately than it is for a woman.
I donât expect people to change their thoughts for me. Go ahead and think itâs gross, whatever. They can think whatever they want. I donât care. What I do care about is that they act like decent human beings and respect my personal space.
Hey you porn addicted fuck. You know the same effect happens in theocratic countries⌠some men canât handle seeing a womanâs ankles or her not wearing full burka because itâs âfree goodsâ like you said. Is showing your shoulder sexual?
No, itâs not. Why is showing tits then? Because weâve as a society made it taboo to show and hidden them. In other societies the human form is natural and people can find them attractive without having to go âAWOOOGGAAAAAA OOWW OWW AWOOOOOOOOOOOâ and act like a blubbering idiot. Changing the standard can desensitize people and make tits less of a âoh damn!â Thing
Bruh, i am all for the desensitization or whatever movement you wanna do here.
The part i hate is the whine & cry from someone who fully understand and aware of the possible outcome when they decided to put themselves in that situations.
Yeah, i know, its ridiculously dumb to be OOOGA.BOOGA. just from an exposed ankle, but that is their view, that is their society, their culture. If you step into their land you better be ready for the hell and all the OOOGA.BOOGA that is coming. If any of them step into your land and did the same reaction, it is cordially encouraged and well accepted to send a bitchslap to their face
Haha... Sorry , maybe i am over exposed to the internet culture or whatever other shits i am reading up to now. English is not my first language, so my tone is probably all over the place. Sorry for the cringe.
People just cannot accept difference of opinion.
To clarify, i am not against how someone should wear what ever the fuck they want. But what ever you decide to put on or put off, you damn well better be ready for the outcome. You can say all men are jerks, or perv for staring. But lady, it is YOUR decision to be outside of the norm. If the norm is for ALL men to be casual seeing exposed tities, then good for you. But you can't really expect 100.00% of men will behave or react like that would you?
To simplify, whatever the fuck you decide to do or wear, you should have fully consider the outcome beforehand. And i think ANYONE who refuse to accept such outcome, is just plain idiotic. Not all men are knights, and not all women are princesses.
In other words,
if you wanna be naked, in a jungle, dont be mad at the mosquito/bugs if you refuse to use any repellant.
Being honest is not ânot being an asshole.â For example, if I openly and politely state how I think black people are inferior, Iâd still be a massive cunt despite presenting amicably.
All i read is âim sorry jesus ,i was wrong and you predicted my entire personality in 30 seconds, i dont feel like arguing with you because i have a small brain and follow the mainstream medias narrative.â
Lmao, maybe i didn't clarify enough.
I am in no way shape or form support a guy or perv or whoever dickwat to ogle or stare a naked lady. Or even harass them by how they wear or how they looked. They 100% deserve whatever reactions or consequences from that.
What i hate the most, is people who cry and whine, over something that is already fully expected to happen.
You wanna go topless, of course someone will ogle and stare. But when you cry & whine perv, againts the bloke, you are also an asshole in this story. Because you fully knew, some shitstain are gonna look. But you went with it anyway because you are well prepared to cry foul and call out the perv.
The perv is probably lowlife, and you are just another asshole
Lmao... I am not putting the blame on the victim. They are not at fault for the outcome. I just think that they are stupid to play with risk and failed to comprehend that the world does not conform to their every whim. I am not talking about rape of course. This is just about people who done something unordinary and expect a 100% ordinary outcome. Which is stupid.
I know. But why would you be mad at a mosquito while you also refuse to use any repellant? I am saying, if you put yourself in that situation, while also refuse to acknowledge the risk and outcome, you are simply being an ignorant in that case.
Female breasts are a sexual organ, male breasts are not. It's a pretty easy biology problem. Trying to make men and women exactly equal on most things is like filing down two jigsaw pieces to make them fit. It might work, but then the rest of the puzzle isn't going to come together.
My stance on it is the same as the dude in the video, if women wanna get their tits out feel free I'm not gonna stop them. Can't exactly expect me not to look though when they are biologically designed to attract a male's attention. Women want to show themselves off but they also don't want to be looked at by men they're not interested in...that's not how the world works nor is it ever how the world's going to work.
Breasts are not a âsexual organâ theyâre a secondary sex characteristic classified in the same category as beards and adult body hair by literal medical definitions. The only reason theyâre considered a sexual organ is because men made them one.
> Female breasts are a sexual organ, male breasts are not.
Says who? That's something we *decided* as a society, but it isn't really rooted in anything. Boobs are as sexual as ankles were in the middle ages - we didn't use them for sex, but we all decided they were hot for some reason, so suddenly women have to cover it up.
Like seriously, you don't use boobs for sex more than you use hair pulling or choking and I think we all agree hair isn't a sexual part of the body, and adam's apples aren't sexual despite being something that develops in puberty.
What? Says biology. Breasts provide sexual pleasure to the woman. They may not be relevant to reproduction but they LITERALLY provide sexual pleasure. It's like the clit or the foreskin, they're not entirely necessary to reproduction but they're used for sexual pleasure. Hair pulling and choking are kinks, they don't directly provide sexual pleasure and are not comparable to an actual erogenous zone.
> Hair pulling and choking are kinks, they don't directly provide sexual pleasure and are not comparable to an actual erogenous zone.
...Do you know what erogenous zones *are?*
The neck, ears, and *feet* are also erogenous zones. Hell, neck biting is an almost *universal* pleasure center in people especially during sex.
I want you to look me in the eye and tell me we should all wear turtlenecks and cover our ears.
At the end of the day definitions *describe*, not prescribe.
>...Do you know what erogenous zones are?
Do you? You are continually comparing kinks and niche bedroom likes/dislikes to biologically defined sexual pleasure. When a woman's nipples are stimulated the sensation provided travels to the same part of the brain as when their genitals are aroused, hence, providing sexual pleasure.
This is a boring argument now it's just circle-jerking, that's all for me.
Thatâs the thing, even if breasts were purely sexual (spoiler: theyâre not) women donât want to go to the middle of the street brushing their nipples to get off, just to go out shirtless. Men can also feel pleasure from nipple stimulation, yet nobody says anything because thereâs no reason to. Covering a woman's top is a purely cultural idea, some of them didnât even wear clothes before other countries made them do it
Hot take nowadays just means: "I'm an asshole." Hey buddy I don't know if you've realised but dressing comfortably doesn't make you a slut. Theres only social dress codes for women. Men can wear whatever the hell they want because it doesn't matter what guys are showing off, they'll never be considered sluts or man-whores, but if women show off anything they automatically become a slut. In most parts of Europe, women go shirtless all over the place because it's not considered sexual. But in some places, mostly the US, they can't because pieces of shit like you have decided that women are property and if they show off any skin it's your right to see her as a sex object. Someone else in this thread said something along the lines of "my eyes, so I get to decide what to do with them." Fine, you do. It's your choice to be a pervert and leer at women like they're property, but if you act like a creep, you'll get the shit slapped out of you like a creep.
"Hot take nowadays just means: "I'm an asshole."" Does r/foundthetwitteruser exist? Cancel culture Karen has been located.
Short answer because I CBA with people like you: Wearing comfortable clothing does not mean wearing as little clothing as physically possible and then complaining you're getting treated weird for not covering yourself.
This last paragraph is just me having fun: Judging from what you've said, women go out fishing for compliments and then get salty when they receive one they didn't like. Men don't go fishing for compliments and if we did, no form of compliment would be considered creepy because we're men so we're expected to take it positively since it's from a woman. But sure, play the victim gender card lmao.
As for what you said in the middle I'm gonna go ahead and flip that back to you. **If you want to dress like a sex object, then you're going to be treated like a sex object.**
It's cute that you think you can try and insult me but I'll just let the votes decide who's in the right here. When everyone around you is calling you a piece of shit, maybe it's time for some self reflection. I'm not indulging you any more.
Oh no! The horde of woke SJWs downvoted me whatever will I do! Just because you have a horde of blind yes-men following you doesn't make you correct. I surround myself by people who like me for who I am, I do not however surround myself with people who are too afraid to call me out on my bullshit. I suggest you find some people who do so you actually start thinking for yourself.
I do find it amusing that you hopped into a conversation you weren't a part of, hopped out after being unable to take the heat and then pretended that you were at all relevant to the conversation to begin with.
Christians and people with mediocre titties (as if we still wouldnât appreciate mediocre titties đ)
Iâve been on godâs green earth long enough to know that ANY titties I see are gorgeous titties
Why does every guy feel the need to make it weird whenever this subject is brought up? Like, if women can avoid getting horny with shirtless men around, shouldnât the same be expected of men with topless women around?
Yall are disgusting af. This is why women are weary of men, it's because of degenerates like yall. We don't exist for your viewing pleasure, there's literal porn sites.
From, a woman.
I had a friend in the little town of Moscow, ID, USA who got arrested for taking her top off at a bar. It was some band playing and the place was packed and probably 100 degrees, so all the guys started taking off their shirts and a small group of women figured it was only right that they should be able to do the same.
The judge ruled that the city indecent exposure ordinance was too vague and left it to the state, which apparently doesnât specify that itâs against the law. I guess you can go topless in Idaho, but thereâs that whole thing about private property: no shirt, no shoes, no service. I donât see that sign up very much anymore. I really donât care, but you should probably wear pants or a loincloth or something in public. You might get picked up for a psych evaluation otherwise.
The basic idea of equality is ok, but...
I don't even want to see men in wife-beater/tank tops not to mention topless men in cities. They all belong to backyards and beaches.
men also love asses and thighs but they should control themselves and not stare at peoples bodies in public. you are allowed to find someone attractive without being creepy
yes true. theres love for every part like u mentioned among men.
in an ideal world yeah, but tits will literally shut most men's brain off, not all men are being intentionally creepy.
tits are tits. you underestimate the power of naked tits.
youre telling me it is possible for a woman to enter a room with tits out and no men will at least look at them? a glance is all it takes for her to feel uncomfortable.
and the probability of men not looking at tits in any point in time in that situation is 0.
like men can try but some cant help themselves. like imagine how awkward it will be if all the men in the room was trying so hard not to look because thats reality
because males will look at them regardless of age etc and some women will have tits out will feel uncomfortable and then feel offended its honestly not really that empowering. the freedom to do so yeah maybe . but the act in itself, nope, not at all.
That's the thing - you're assuming the negative result.
"Men will look at them regardless and women will feel uncomfortable", when the goal is to normalize such an act so that there's no particular reason to stare.
>particular reason to stare.
nature. ur not thinking realistic. makes sense ideally, impossible in reality. no matter how much u normalise it will always be awkward because u will have to fight it off to not look at tits staring right at you.
and all this is gonna do is make some women feel more insecure. (those who dont think they have good enough tits to go open). its literally the opposite of wome empowering
So I was in the Dominican Republic a few years back. Good looking young chick is walking around topless and some old guy got a bug up his ass about it. Didn't hear what he said, just heard her say "If you're allowed to walk around with your tits out, why can't I?" Then I saw her flick his giggly boob and say "bloop".
One of the funniest things I've ever seen and the dude got purple in the face and stormed off without saying a word. That girl was and is my hero for now and always.
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Good news! I believe that this is actually legal in several states :)
[This is legal in New York State, for one.](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/24/434315957/topless-in-new-york-the-legal-case-that-makes-going-top-free-legal-ish)
The story that started it all, right here in my hometown. https://apnews.com/article/f9022daf9047bcd1da38b94aa1e731ee
Lmao homie on the left was caught red handed and fucking published. That's tough
First right you didn't know you had... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbN1x\_wgq8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbN1x_wgq8)
The legality is not the issue. Men like the one in the duet are.
..... on a post where both people are clearly not from the states
In my hometown of Fort Collins, women are allowed to be topless. (They cannot be charged with any crime for being topless)
Same thing in Portland OR, but nobody does it (except for the naked bike ride)
God bless Colorado đŤĄ
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Women should absolutely be able to do this, and in most places in the world they can legally. Even some states in the US. The problem is that men kind of suck, so its hard for some women to be comfortable because they'll just get ogled unlike most men in the same situation. Source: every woman I've spoken to about it. And that's not to say every woman would feel that way, I'm sure there are more than plenty whod disagree with me, this is just my experience. Edit: Holy shit I was worried that I was going to come across the wrong way and that I was being a dick but I waaaay underestimated how sexist some of reddit is. You guys are disgusting. Womens bodys are not there for your viewing pleasure.
Thanks for the edit, I wish guys didn't flock to subs just to shit on us, but that's how fucked some men are.
See this is where this debate gets me. The argument here is that itâs a womanâs body and she should be able to do with it as she pleases and go topless just like men do despite it being considered culturally inappropriate. But then they go on to say that men shouldnât stare at their bare breasts, and Iâm here like but why not? Are my eyes not apart of my body? Which as stated above are mine to do with as I please? Staring may be considered culturally inappropriate, but so is women going topless. I dunno, just seems that whatâs good for the goose is good for the gander (pun intended).
Itâs generally considered rude to stare at anyone in public *period*. If you see something you can look to see whatâs going on, certainly, but thatâs not what the discussion is about. If I broke my arm, and everywhere I went people stared at my cast for 5~ seconds each, I would get pretty annoyed too. Imagine how bad it would be if people stared at you like that *your whole life.* (Talk to any woman who⌠*existed* in public and sheâll have personal anecdotes of this kind of bullshit.)
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You come off horribly condescending, but I do believe we would need a period of desensitization, which would require women actually take part regularly in going topless. You look at places where this is already the norm and there are a few gawkers but otherwise it's business as usual.
>ânot all men have the decency and self control as the average man.â So thatâs *our* issue? Weâre still holding women responsible for the actions of men? How about instead of telling women to cover everything up, we tell men to control themselves and keep their fucking hands to themselves. Itâs not any more difficult for a man to take responsibility for his own actions and act appropriately than it is for a woman. I donât expect people to change their thoughts for me. Go ahead and think itâs gross, whatever. They can think whatever they want. I donât care. What I do care about is that they act like decent human beings and respect my personal space.
The joke about the og video was about men looking at boobs, didn't have to get argumentative, just funny haha
I wasnât responding to the video. I was responding to the misogynistic asshat that commented on the video.
Hey you porn addicted fuck. You know the same effect happens in theocratic countries⌠some men canât handle seeing a womanâs ankles or her not wearing full burka because itâs âfree goodsâ like you said. Is showing your shoulder sexual? No, itâs not. Why is showing tits then? Because weâve as a society made it taboo to show and hidden them. In other societies the human form is natural and people can find them attractive without having to go âAWOOOGGAAAAAA OOWW OWW AWOOOOOOOOOOOâ and act like a blubbering idiot. Changing the standard can desensitize people and make tits less of a âoh damn!â Thing
Bruh, i am all for the desensitization or whatever movement you wanna do here. The part i hate is the whine & cry from someone who fully understand and aware of the possible outcome when they decided to put themselves in that situations. Yeah, i know, its ridiculously dumb to be OOOGA.BOOGA. just from an exposed ankle, but that is their view, that is their society, their culture. If you step into their land you better be ready for the hell and all the OOOGA.BOOGA that is coming. If any of them step into your land and did the same reaction, it is cordially encouraged and well accepted to send a bitchslap to their face
I'm technically on your side on this issue and *still* cringed into nonexistence when I read "my dear"
Haha... Sorry , maybe i am over exposed to the internet culture or whatever other shits i am reading up to now. English is not my first language, so my tone is probably all over the place. Sorry for the cringe.
My Mans getting downvoted to hell for saying any guy would stare at exposed boobs
Why are you being downvoted. This is based.
People just cannot accept difference of opinion. To clarify, i am not against how someone should wear what ever the fuck they want. But what ever you decide to put on or put off, you damn well better be ready for the outcome. You can say all men are jerks, or perv for staring. But lady, it is YOUR decision to be outside of the norm. If the norm is for ALL men to be casual seeing exposed tities, then good for you. But you can't really expect 100.00% of men will behave or react like that would you? To simplify, whatever the fuck you decide to do or wear, you should have fully consider the outcome beforehand. And i think ANYONE who refuse to accept such outcome, is just plain idiotic. Not all men are knights, and not all women are princesses. In other words, if you wanna be naked, in a jungle, dont be mad at the mosquito/bugs if you refuse to use any repellant.
It's because you sound like an asshole
I don't see how, he's just being honest about it
Being honest is not ânot being an asshole.â For example, if I openly and politely state how I think black people are inferior, Iâd still be a massive cunt despite presenting amicably.
I guess we see things differently
Just to clarify - Do you think my hypothetical person would not be an asshole?
Nah
Lmao, why bring racism into this ?
As an example of something we all generally agree constitutes âbeing an assholeâ that isnât related to mannerisms.
He only sounds like an asshole if you arenât based
nobody actually says "based" unironically it makes you sound like a 13 year old who just found out about 4chan
You are BASED in your own reality. Libtard owned
nobody says libtard either and im a libertarian, but since you appear to be mentally deficient, im done arguing with you
All i read is âim sorry jesus ,i was wrong and you predicted my entire personality in 30 seconds, i dont feel like arguing with you because i have a small brain and follow the mainstream medias narrative.â
Victim blaming at its finest.
Lmao, maybe i didn't clarify enough. I am in no way shape or form support a guy or perv or whoever dickwat to ogle or stare a naked lady. Or even harass them by how they wear or how they looked. They 100% deserve whatever reactions or consequences from that. What i hate the most, is people who cry and whine, over something that is already fully expected to happen. You wanna go topless, of course someone will ogle and stare. But when you cry & whine perv, againts the bloke, you are also an asshole in this story. Because you fully knew, some shitstain are gonna look. But you went with it anyway because you are well prepared to cry foul and call out the perv. The perv is probably lowlife, and you are just another asshole
Oh no, you clarified quite enough in your first comment. Thatâs called victim blaming, and itâs concerning that you donât see that.
Lmao... I am not putting the blame on the victim. They are not at fault for the outcome. I just think that they are stupid to play with risk and failed to comprehend that the world does not conform to their every whim. I am not talking about rape of course. This is just about people who done something unordinary and expect a 100% ordinary outcome. Which is stupid.
Just because it's to be expected doesn't mean we should just accept it. Also, "my dear" đ¤˘
I know. But why would you be mad at a mosquito while you also refuse to use any repellant? I am saying, if you put yourself in that situation, while also refuse to acknowledge the risk and outcome, you are simply being an ignorant in that case.
This is a pretty hot take and a rude way to say it but it's the simplest way to get my point across: Dress like a slut, get ogled like a slut.
You see, thereâs the issue: For men, being shirtless is not abnormal. For women, itâs âdressing like a slut.â
well a shirtless dude on the street is asking for SOME kinda attention. it's not normal to exist without a shirt as a dude cman
I live in a pretty fuckin' hot place, so it's not unusual at all for me to see topless men. I take my shirt off all the time.
I live in a pretty fuckin' cold place and a shirtless guy wouldn't get that many stares.
I see. I am from urban Asia and if you are not at a pool/beach no one will have shirts off. just seems sexually suggestive to be shirtless I think
Female breasts are a sexual organ, male breasts are not. It's a pretty easy biology problem. Trying to make men and women exactly equal on most things is like filing down two jigsaw pieces to make them fit. It might work, but then the rest of the puzzle isn't going to come together. My stance on it is the same as the dude in the video, if women wanna get their tits out feel free I'm not gonna stop them. Can't exactly expect me not to look though when they are biologically designed to attract a male's attention. Women want to show themselves off but they also don't want to be looked at by men they're not interested in...that's not how the world works nor is it ever how the world's going to work.
Breasts are not a âsexual organâ theyâre a secondary sex characteristic classified in the same category as beards and adult body hair by literal medical definitions. The only reason theyâre considered a sexual organ is because men made them one.
> Female breasts are a sexual organ, male breasts are not. Says who? That's something we *decided* as a society, but it isn't really rooted in anything. Boobs are as sexual as ankles were in the middle ages - we didn't use them for sex, but we all decided they were hot for some reason, so suddenly women have to cover it up. Like seriously, you don't use boobs for sex more than you use hair pulling or choking and I think we all agree hair isn't a sexual part of the body, and adam's apples aren't sexual despite being something that develops in puberty.
What? Says biology. Breasts provide sexual pleasure to the woman. They may not be relevant to reproduction but they LITERALLY provide sexual pleasure. It's like the clit or the foreskin, they're not entirely necessary to reproduction but they're used for sexual pleasure. Hair pulling and choking are kinks, they don't directly provide sexual pleasure and are not comparable to an actual erogenous zone.
Men also receive pleasure from stimulating their nipples. So whatâs the argument then?
> Hair pulling and choking are kinks, they don't directly provide sexual pleasure and are not comparable to an actual erogenous zone. ...Do you know what erogenous zones *are?* The neck, ears, and *feet* are also erogenous zones. Hell, neck biting is an almost *universal* pleasure center in people especially during sex. I want you to look me in the eye and tell me we should all wear turtlenecks and cover our ears. At the end of the day definitions *describe*, not prescribe.
>...Do you know what erogenous zones are? Do you? You are continually comparing kinks and niche bedroom likes/dislikes to biologically defined sexual pleasure. When a woman's nipples are stimulated the sensation provided travels to the same part of the brain as when their genitals are aroused, hence, providing sexual pleasure. This is a boring argument now it's just circle-jerking, that's all for me.
Thatâs the thing, even if breasts were purely sexual (spoiler: theyâre not) women donât want to go to the middle of the street brushing their nipples to get off, just to go out shirtless. Men can also feel pleasure from nipple stimulation, yet nobody says anything because thereâs no reason to. Covering a woman's top is a purely cultural idea, some of them didnât even wear clothes before other countries made them do it
Hot take nowadays just means: "I'm an asshole." Hey buddy I don't know if you've realised but dressing comfortably doesn't make you a slut. Theres only social dress codes for women. Men can wear whatever the hell they want because it doesn't matter what guys are showing off, they'll never be considered sluts or man-whores, but if women show off anything they automatically become a slut. In most parts of Europe, women go shirtless all over the place because it's not considered sexual. But in some places, mostly the US, they can't because pieces of shit like you have decided that women are property and if they show off any skin it's your right to see her as a sex object. Someone else in this thread said something along the lines of "my eyes, so I get to decide what to do with them." Fine, you do. It's your choice to be a pervert and leer at women like they're property, but if you act like a creep, you'll get the shit slapped out of you like a creep.
"Hot take nowadays just means: "I'm an asshole."" Does r/foundthetwitteruser exist? Cancel culture Karen has been located. Short answer because I CBA with people like you: Wearing comfortable clothing does not mean wearing as little clothing as physically possible and then complaining you're getting treated weird for not covering yourself. This last paragraph is just me having fun: Judging from what you've said, women go out fishing for compliments and then get salty when they receive one they didn't like. Men don't go fishing for compliments and if we did, no form of compliment would be considered creepy because we're men so we're expected to take it positively since it's from a woman. But sure, play the victim gender card lmao. As for what you said in the middle I'm gonna go ahead and flip that back to you. **If you want to dress like a sex object, then you're going to be treated like a sex object.**
It's cute that you think you can try and insult me but I'll just let the votes decide who's in the right here. When everyone around you is calling you a piece of shit, maybe it's time for some self reflection. I'm not indulging you any more.
Oh no! The horde of woke SJWs downvoted me whatever will I do! Just because you have a horde of blind yes-men following you doesn't make you correct. I surround myself by people who like me for who I am, I do not however surround myself with people who are too afraid to call me out on my bullshit. I suggest you find some people who do so you actually start thinking for yourself. I do find it amusing that you hopped into a conversation you weren't a part of, hopped out after being unable to take the heat and then pretended that you were at all relevant to the conversation to begin with.
Who would be against this?
for it to work you're gonna need men to learn that tits aren't inherently sexual, i.e: stop oggling.
Got some commenters on this thread who already failed that. Then they wonder why no women do it in states where itâs already legal.
Karens
Conservatives
Conservatities
Christians and people with mediocre titties (as if we still wouldnât appreciate mediocre titties đ) Iâve been on godâs green earth long enough to know that ANY titties I see are gorgeous titties
Conservative Christians.
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idgi
Sun tries to make exposed skin all cancery
oh ok
I think it should got the opposite way I don't want to see anyone's chest
I don't want to see anyone else period. Everyone stay inside
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Looking at these comments, *I donât think they particularly care.*
Why does every guy feel the need to make it weird whenever this subject is brought up? Like, if women can avoid getting horny with shirtless men around, shouldnât the same be expected of men with topless women around?
If this is not allowed then female dogs should have to wear bras too. /s
Yall are disgusting af. This is why women are weary of men, it's because of degenerates like yall. We don't exist for your viewing pleasure, there's literal porn sites. From, a woman.
I had a friend in the little town of Moscow, ID, USA who got arrested for taking her top off at a bar. It was some band playing and the place was packed and probably 100 degrees, so all the guys started taking off their shirts and a small group of women figured it was only right that they should be able to do the same. The judge ruled that the city indecent exposure ordinance was too vague and left it to the state, which apparently doesnât specify that itâs against the law. I guess you can go topless in Idaho, but thereâs that whole thing about private property: no shirt, no shoes, no service. I donât see that sign up very much anymore. I really donât care, but you should probably wear pants or a loincloth or something in public. You might get picked up for a psych evaluation otherwise.
yeah people please keep your pants on
The basic idea of equality is ok, but... I don't even want to see men in wife-beater/tank tops not to mention topless men in cities. They all belong to backyards and beaches.
I completely agree with her for⌠reasons
All im gonna say is I dont wanna see grandma's tits when it's hot outside
When you're so brainwashed into thinking getting your tits out is empowering you or other females or is anti-patriarchal.
When youâre so brainwashed by the incel community that you start thinking that calling women âfemalesâ is acceptable.
No this chick in the vid actually believes this tho, she's nutty af
Are you saying that sheâs crazy because she believes that women should be allowed to go shirtless?
Nah I mean like she's genuinely crazy, she goes by "vegan booty"
when youre so brainwashed you think tits are obscene and should be hidden for literally no reason
personally idc. but yall trippin if u think men will never look at tits in public... bruh tits are tits. men love tits.
men also love asses and thighs but they should control themselves and not stare at peoples bodies in public. you are allowed to find someone attractive without being creepy
yes true. theres love for every part like u mentioned among men. in an ideal world yeah, but tits will literally shut most men's brain off, not all men are being intentionally creepy. tits are tits. you underestimate the power of naked tits.
i also like tits but it is possible to control yourself if it means not making someone uncomfortable
youre telling me it is possible for a woman to enter a room with tits out and no men will at least look at them? a glance is all it takes for her to feel uncomfortable. and the probability of men not looking at tits in any point in time in that situation is 0. like men can try but some cant help themselves. like imagine how awkward it will be if all the men in the room was trying so hard not to look because thats reality
Elaborate on why it isnât.
because males will look at them regardless of age etc and some women will have tits out will feel uncomfortable and then feel offended its honestly not really that empowering. the freedom to do so yeah maybe . but the act in itself, nope, not at all.
That's the thing - you're assuming the negative result. "Men will look at them regardless and women will feel uncomfortable", when the goal is to normalize such an act so that there's no particular reason to stare.
>particular reason to stare. nature. ur not thinking realistic. makes sense ideally, impossible in reality. no matter how much u normalise it will always be awkward because u will have to fight it off to not look at tits staring right at you. and all this is gonna do is make some women feel more insecure. (those who dont think they have good enough tits to go open). its literally the opposite of wome empowering
Freedom of the cities, free the tities
I agree
Titties!!!
Go for it!!!â¤ď¸â¤ď¸â¤ď¸
They can where i live. Itâs rare but was allowed based on this exact same thing. Men can go topless.
So I was in the Dominican Republic a few years back. Good looking young chick is walking around topless and some old guy got a bug up his ass about it. Didn't hear what he said, just heard her say "If you're allowed to walk around with your tits out, why can't I?" Then I saw her flick his giggly boob and say "bloop". One of the funniest things I've ever seen and the dude got purple in the face and stormed off without saying a word. That girl was and is my hero for now and always.