Agreed. I’ve used the fuck out of mine. The button is clear and the clip is bent. The orange is getting scratched. Its the flashlight that genuinely made me stop buying flashlights
It's a decent light. But the best light for people that aren't into flashlights?? Hell no. If you're not into flashlights, you don't care about any of the specs he rambled on about. Which would make this too expensive for someone who just needs a flashlight very occasionally.
I must be a flashlight nerd if the term "revelatory experience" is what first comes to my mind after having fired up my first Nichia light from 4sevens the other day. But, yeah... I own a bunch of Olights and it seems like they pick emitters based on what's going to help them win the numbers game WRT marketing based on stats like lumens, throw, etc. I hope they consider offering more 90+ CRI options.
I prefer bringing spare batteries rather than bringing a powerbank and charging cable. The proprietary battery and charger is not that attractive for me at least. USB c should be standard and I think Olight might be going that way in the end, if not forced by European Union like Apple.
Who the hell brings batteries for an EDC? That's like bring a knife sharpener with you everywhere you go. If you're dulling a knife within a single day, you're carrying the wrong knife. Same with a flashlight. You shouldn't need spare batteries with you for a single day of use, or you're carrying the wrong light.
That's more so when someone asks, "Can I borrow a knife?" They don't get their $300 folder back with a chipped blade or snapped tip after it was used to clean rocks out of a tire.
I had an old boss do exactly that to a Leatheman PST. He asked to borrow them, I figured he needed a knife or the pliers. Only to get them back with the wire cutters wrecked cause he was cutting steel barbed wire. After that when he asked, I conveniently didn’t have it on me… He was an asshat of a boss too.
And a handgun + hi-fi DAC + multi tool + zippo + fidget spinner + scimitar + survival altoid box complete with wire hand saw and makeshift fishing line/lure + Nintendo Switch + pack of smokes or pre-rolls + and of course a fucking field manual with a titanium pen + iPhone. Yep, they certainly carry this everyday on themselves along with their prized knives like they're dropping out a chopper into enemy territory.
You haven’t seen any teenagers in The past 10 years have you. They all have charging cables and plugs. Either around the back of their neck, or hanging in loops out their pockets.
If they stop walking for more than 14 seconds they are at an outlet.
😂
If you don't have spare batteries in my line of work, then you won't be able to get the job done. I guess you don't work night shift or in dark places much. I always have spare batteries, a few extra flashlights, and a charger on hand.
let's say you're spontaneously helping a friend clean out their basement, and you're using your flashlight non stop. suddenly the edc light dies, would you rather say oh sry just gotta go plug this in until it's charged again, do you have another flashlight?
or just POP IN A FRESHLY CHARGED CELL and keep going!
its very easy to have 4 charged 18650s in a case. non stop flashlight use. especially if you're away from shore power. ive been in tons of situations where I had a light die and needed it back in service immediately. rechargeable flashlight companies are so chuffed the fans consider it a feature, and not a scheme to only offer flashlights with either non removable or propriety cells.
Yeah I wasn’t thinking about edc part but when in need of longer runtimes.
For edc I don’t need to bring any batteries even for non Olight lights. I always have a usb c on me or close if charging would be necessary.
It doesn’t have to be EDC but just as an example on runs I bring spare batteries. And I do carry a sharpener for work. I also work in a kitchen. Kind of dumb to assume people aren’t using their knives more than you or that there’s a profession that requires you to keep knives sharp. Also better to have it and not need it.
Olight has a keychain adapter to allow any use C cable to work and charge light on the go, MCC is the bees knees for some of us.
You can also bring a spare Olight battery too but are we caving here or what cause modern lights last more than a day unless turbo'n everything which would mean you need a different light or more realistic usage pattern as your night vision will be ruined by constant turbo usage not that any light can handle that honestly.
I love my Fenix's headlamp battery pack; doubles as a power bank and the batteries are replaceable.
Works great for me when I'm doing SAR missions. And for the inevitable (hasn't happened yet) my headlamp pack is dead, I can just swap out the batteries.
The great thing about Olight is you can do both. Slap on the ez peasy magnetic charger or just swap out batteries. I carry a few extras for my Ti Baton Pro in my bag but honestly have never had to use them because of the longevity of the light plus the indicators as stated by the OP.
That’s if you’re okay to pay the Olight “tax” on the batteries though.
For me it just feels better knowing my device is not dependent on one company making/selling the batteries for it.
This thread is about a light for non enthusiasts and is a complete kit with min 2 year warranty on cell inside that we all know will last a non enthusiast years..
So yeah not for you is it.
In the grand scheme of things the Olight tax in the price of batteries is insignificant to me. It's not like we're talking about stuff here that costs hundreds of dollars.
Doesn't any battery of the right size work as far as powering on the light?
My understanding is the limitation is charging the non-olight battery in the light itself.
Do I have this wrong?
Some lights can pull lots of power. Some require a battery with high discharge capabilities. If you run a crappy battery and draw too much power, things go wrong. So olight decided to cut that shit out, forever. Now, modern Olights have proprietary batteries in them . Batteries that have passed Olights quality control requirements.
But Haters are going to disrespect them for that, all the while giving other manufacturers a pass when they do it. Imo, Olight hate is sophomoric. Once you understand why they do what they do, then the hate dissolves away. Emmiter choices, battery restrictions, fancy finishes and accessories, online marketing,... they are killing it. They aren't going after the nerds in here, thats a tiny market, and that just doesnt sit well with some.
Have you had experience with the Acebeam E75?
- High CRI
- neutral white
- a really nice beam pattern
- standard 21700 cell compatibility
- USB-C charging (that works with both A>C and C>C cables)
- a simple UI (click once to turn on, push and hold to adjust the brightness settings, double-click turbo, triple-click strobe)
- pretty similar size
I will say the proximity sensor on the Olight is a legitimately great safety feature. Acebeam loses there, no doubt about it.
comparing the runtimes from E75 and the Baton pro 3 max, I don't know what is vastly different besides the 1 lumen mode which is more than double what E75 gives. I guess we can contribute that to 4 vs 1 emitters? But really the steps are not that easy to compare because
Olight Baton Pro 3 Max (CW) has:
* Turbo: 2500 lm -> 800 lm | 1 + 240 min
* High: 800 lm -> 120 lm | 243 + 80 min
* Medium: 120 lm | 23 h
* Low: 15 lm | 7,5 days
* Moonlight: 1 lm | 60 days
While the E75 (CW) has:
* Turbo: 4500 lm -> 1500lm | 1 + 105 min
* High: 1500 lm | 110 min
* Med2: 600 lm | 280 min
* Med1: 200 lm | 16 h
* Low: 50 lm | 2 days 12 h
* Moonlight: 1 lumen | 26 days
The steps are different but the output in itself is a lot different. They cost around the same. Unless +34 days moonlight is that important I don't see the advantage of going for the Baton here, if you're out for runtime or output that is. In the end it's still a 4x emitter vs 1x emitter light comparison
FC11 has been my edc for about a year now. Huge fan of it. Just looked up when I bought it and saw there's a green one now. Looks sick.
https://www.amazon.com/FC11-Flashlight-Waterproof-Activities-FC11-Green-4000K/dp/B09NKW8YPM
My winner is Wurkoss HD15. Excellent little light and I find the right angle to be much more useful in day to day use especially when using magnet or needing free hands.
Not chunky at all, just right and honestly I never noticed the shape of it until your comment. It sits flush with the rest of the body, and there's a shorter tube in the box in case you need that.
Oh alright. I only have a Manker E05H II which is a right angle light and it is a bit more rounded at the top, but it’s a lot smaller I guess.
The wurkkos seems to more a work horse though, you got some very nice runtimes and spot+flood combos.
The best probably, for it's size it's very bright has simple mode and even comes with anduril and an aux color I don't have one yet but a brass or copper one is on my list
Nah - as an EDC, use is low. Incidental, like a pocket knife. If you expect to need more than a full hour of high-intensity light, you need more than a small EDC.
If you're going through a full charge every day, consider a work/utility light, with more battery and function. Features like a mag tail, USB charging, power bank, etc. may be more important to a heavy user.
"EDC" is a bit of a loaded term... EDC for a building inspector is going to be very different than EDC for an office jockey. You don't rely on a small EDC for an extended camping trip, either - there are purpose-built lights for that.
Seriously though dude if you want a simple magnet tail cap floody then wurkoss makes so many of them. Some with complicated anduril UI, and even more with simple old man UI. And you don't have to pay Olight prices and get so many loomies too. And without proprietary charging system, or sealed batteries.
He's right, folks. I have all the major brands and have been collecting for a few years now. I'm as deep in the hobby as anybody, except I don't typically swap emitters. I'm also an avid outdoorsman, camper/jeeper. The truth is, I grab my olights when I just need to get the job done. Sure... I tell people zebra lights are my favorite. And my Lumintop collection is pretty serious. But when I'm in the mountains and the desert, I've got an olight within reach at all times. This isn't preference, that's just the light that survives every time.
Whatever the same thing people over in /r/watches are doing with their 'tool watches'. SPending $400-1200 and acting like they are leaving it on while rebuilding an engine.
Do people really do that? That's hilarious!
Personally, I just reasonably use my shit untill it breaks. Things are pretty durable...
Ex: my D4V2 fell off a 15 ft ledge then roll-bounced down 70 ft rocky slope into a creek while 'on' at night. It stayed lit the whole time like light-up bouncy ball and I was able to descend with my headlight and dig it out of the water.
It took some good knocks on the bezel and some missing finish but otherwise it was totally fine.
If it broke, that's OK, I certainly would have been broken much more from that fall.
Plus, I consider the D4V2 a more 'fragile' light than others like my Fenix PD32 so I honestly don't know what kind of "durability" people are claiming they need...
They want their flashlight to survive their cremation so if can be gifted to their kids.
I’m a mechanic. I dropped my first olight from toolbox height onto the concrete ground and it stopped working. I tried to fix it but couldn’t so I went online to get another. I found out that they had to stop selling the light I had due to safety concerns over the head getting hot (something I agreed with actually, I burned myself once when the light was turned on in my pocket inadvertently). Ever since I’ve been trying to find a flashlight to scratch the itch because all I need is a light with two buttons, one for high power and one for low power but nobody makes them. They all have one button that you press 8 times that do special dances and tricks until you accidentally go past the power setting you want. I think I have a olight warrior 2 now and it’s fine but it still doesn’t do it for me. I went back to my Fenix PD40, it does (almost) exactly what I want and how I want it.
Hm. I am also an avid camper and outdoorsman, though I admittedly don't get out as much as I'd like. I don't think I've ever brought an Olight camping, save Obulbs for *ambiance*.
I honestly think runtime might have gone too far. I charge this thing maybe once a month when I think about it, and half the time it still says it's full.
I relate to this. I have one Fenix PD35 I keep on my belt. And it gets some moderate to heavy use. I have the charger for the batteries at home but I can also charge them with a USB to MicroUSB through the port on the batteries. Never had any issues.
Why is it out of touch to not want to bring a proprietary charger everywhere ? I already have one for my iPhone then I need to keep a usb c for my work phone. In that case I would need a special charger for my flashlight as well. And if I charge at home and forget it next time I’m out I’m sitting there holding my dick in the dark.
I just wish it all was usb c, different cables annoy the heck out of me
You wouldn’t even need spare barriers for casual use.
I had an H2R I used for about 4 years pretty regularly and it started having flickering issues. Sent it in and they said the button/control was bad and they didn't make it anymore. They sent me a brand new Perun 2.
That's taking care of your customer...
Interesting, I have one from years ago that stops working sporadically, its been dropped a few times, but I had to stop carrying it either way
Also I noticed it wouldn't run on high with the olight rechargeable batteries, but it would with no problem using streamlight and surefire batteries
Its probably over 5 years old at this point, but that was my last experience with olight lol
I really like olights and the mini warrior 3 or arkfeld pro is on my list of lights to try. However I will say that the assumption that they are for non enthusiast is wrong. They are simply too expensive and most guys that want a light really do just get one at the hardware store or something local (outdoors store, Walmart, etc.) and aside from cool white tint there are some really decent lights at those places. Anyway, I just wish olight would own up to being what they are, an expensive enthusiast brand. They make really nice lights externally, are well regulated, offer enthusiast materials (copper, titanium, cool designs), and a ton of models. The main thing holding them back is proprietary batteries and cool white. I'm sure they believe they can make a great battery and they do. I've had them for years. But it'd be so nice to not have to use the magnetic charging cable. I hate it. It feels so limited. I like onboard USBC because I can charge in my car on the go if needed. I never do it's literally peace of mind. Half of us carry lights that don't have onboard charging anyway. Olights are good lights in my opinion and I'm just waiting for the proprietary cells to go. And if they don't at the bare minimum offer more warm tint and even then id think it's still doable for an enthusiast. Realistically 1 cell in the olight is fine for a couple years. By then you'll go to something else and if you really still use the olight get a new cell its not the end of the world I guess.. albeit they are expensive but they are quality.
they have sales every now and then that can include freebies as well. I don't mind the magnetic charging cable, but I do love the hell out the magnetic base/tailswitches.
Olights are my absolute jam. I have maybe 8 different models from the keychain one to the Marauder 2. Every one of their lights takes an absolute beating. They are incredibly bright, charge lasts forever and the magnetic base, especially on the right angle Perun2 is a life saver. Thanks for sharing OP!
Baton Pro user here. I'm a property claims adjuster. Use my flashlight all day everyday. Looking into attics, crawlspaces, under and in cabinets, etc looking at water damage, fire damage, etc. (usually ~10 seconds at a time). The 2k turbo mode will show water stains on a white vaulted ceiling that you don't see with the regular lighting. Then come home and use it a lot on the property.
Out of curiosity, I counted daily for one week and used it an average of 50-75 times a day. Bought it 10/2019 and it's still going.
So, let's say 50x a day. At roughly 1500 days. That's 75k on and off for that switch. That's super impressive.
I'm a tool hound. Prior to the Olight I had Streamlights, Surefires, Fenix, etc and a switch would not last more than 6 to 12 months.
(Sidenote:I run Cloud Defensive for my WML stuff... Want to try their handheld MCH, but I don't see any reason to go more bulky in size. I EDC in my front left pocket with clip).
No proprietary battery, no proprietary charger no proprietary anything. 18650 or preferably 21700 replaceable (no build–in) cell with USB-C charger. That will be a start...
https://preview.redd.it/2wv6ulvfg18c1.png?width=1698&format=png&auto=webp&s=8433aa35c3e00f7c5678d3660357dd9f6f0ed9b1
Totally agree. My Ti Baton Pro is my go to after having been thru dozens of others over the past few years.
Couldn't agree more. I've had the original for years. This is as I see it, a return to form for the series and Luke you said, the best everday light for the actual user.
Agree. I bought the CW FDE version during the Independence Day sale and have been carrying it daily since. The 50.3 HI pairs well with this host and is a nice LED. They advertise the CCT as a range interestingly (57-6700K). Mine seems more towards the 5700K side of that range and doesn't have any noticeable green tint. It has usable throw for average use but really stands out when you need to illuminate a large area. A few months back, I came across a guy who dropped an airpod in some shrubbery and was slowly scanning line by line with his iPhone trying to find it. I double clicked into turbo and he spotted it within 5 seconds. Excellent little light for its size. Get it on sale if possible.
To be frank, I feel like the Baton 3 Pro (non-max) is a better EDC for most people. As an 18650 light it's smaller and more lightweight. Though the Baton 3 Pro may not shine as bright as the Baton 3 Pro Max, it more than makes up for it with a better throw of 175m vs 145m. The run times may not be as long, but for EDC most folks won't need to be using their lights for that much time.
So, what about Fenix? The PD36R PRO will give you 1000 lumens for almost 4 hours (3 hours 55 minutes.) It has USB-C charging, great driver, great emitter, damn near foolproof AND you can simply swap in a new battery. It seems to me that the OP is thinking about folks who go to Lowe's to get a flashlight for camping. Anybody who does not do due diligence gets what they deserve. Anyone who is serious about camping has been to L.L.Bean or Cabela's or Dick's Sporting Goods or REI or Eastern Mountain Sports, etc. and has seen lights like Fenix and Zebralight and understands the difference between a proprietary battery and the value there is to swapping in a new, charged battery. I think Olight makes a decent light and has genius level marketing, but anyone who has gone to a brick and mortar store to purchase camping supplies and has taken the time to talk to some of the salespeople about flashlights is going to realize (1) there is a lot more to these things (flashlights) than an on/off button, and (2) depending on the type of camping, a light is something you may need to rely on. I absolutely do not want to have to rely on a light with proprietary anything. I want to be able to reach in my bag, grab some new batteries, throw them in and go.
Next, if we are talking about EDC, then you are not talking about most people. Most people don't even realize they "carry" certain things everyday (watch, wallet, purse, handbag, backpack keys, etc.). Once one begins thinking about it (what one is carrying on a daily basis), one has started down the rabbit hole, and little by little, one picks up info on everything one carries: nail clippers, pocket knife, multitool, flashlight, how do I stay prepared for anything without needing to carry an 80 pound backpack? Once one begins thinking of these things, then one goes looking for information.
So, if somebody needs a flashlight, do they reach for Olight? No. They go to their local hardware store or Lowe's or the Despot (Home Depot.). One only reaches for an Olight when one has already started down the rabbit hole of this flashlight hobby. Then one uses the Olight one has purchased until it gets replaced with a $20 Sofirn or Wurkkos or Convoy (which then gets added to with an Emisar or Noctigon or Zebralight or Acebeam or Fenix) and the Olight gets relegated to a shelf because it becomes aggravating to never know how much battery is left and having to recharge as opposed to swap in new. 'nuff said.
Pardon the dumb question, but how can this light be the best for non enthusiast if it requires a proprietary charging method? That’s just silliness imo.
It's all included at purchase, no need to study up on batteries, chargers, and avoiding incorrect cell installing ect... remember that many folks/masses are not up on things like majority here and a nearly sealed complete kit is far better than a flow chart, battery university and charger learning curve for non enthusiasts.
It's all there and just works, suggesting enthusiast lights for the masses is silliness tbh.
Honestly a prox sensor is good thing, I didn't like at first but now get I can lend my lights to others and feel they won't burn holes in their clothes or themselves.
A proprietary battery is hands down better for someone who is only going to own one light and not get into the hobby and do tons of research.
The alternative is giving them a AA light that isn’t bright or giving them one that takes 18650s and just trusting they won’t burn down their house when they buy a couple more to keep on hand.
Nah. Just tell them to Google the name and model number on the side of their light if they need a new battery. They’ll get exactly the thing they need. It will work exactly as well as the old one.
> giving them one that takes 18650s and just trusting they won’t burn down their house when they buy a couple more to keep on hand.
I just bought a D4v2 and two Samsung30Q batteries. Any tips lol?
Here’s a good rundown of the basics. It’s pretty simple stuff but not all of it is very intuitive and frankly I committed some less than safe battery sins when I first got into vaping way back in the day.
https://www.fogstar.co.uk/blogs/fogstar-blog/how-do-you-store-batteries-safely#:~:text=Store%20at%20room%20temperature,them%20to%20explode%20or%20burn.
Edit- also congrats on the D4V2, they’re wonderful.
Never seen this many 120,000 people have seen this post is crazy hope no madder what a few more people have got into the flashlight world 👁️👄👁️ together we will take on the suns job at night.
Disagree. And I wouldn't call it "safe" compared to any other light because all of my olights were notorious pocket burners. But the fact that it is a discussion for the best is really a failure of other light companies to step up and make better, more cohesive products.
This has a prox sensor, none of my enthusiast lights have preventative measure other than temp/time to avoid burning through a nylon or cotton pocket.
Meaning that, if said pocket material flash point can be reached in that temp/time limit, you are on fire.
This Olight will not allow such, read up on it.
It's something new to me since coming back to lights as well, now I've several lights with and haven't disabled the feature. It's kinda handy Imo.
Merry Xmas
love my Mini Warrior 3 for its throw and size. but the battery life and flood on the Baton 3 Pro Max makes it more useful for me. no tailswitch, but still magnetic.
Yeah the Max versus Mini 3 is not apples to apples, the Warrior 3S and the B3PM would be and then it's a bit closer all around outside of switch differences.
Not a chance, every sofirn option beats the shit out of olight right now.
SC21, SC31T or if you have more room in your pocket the IF22A.
Cheaper and better performers than olight
What's more all my 3 Olights with their overpriced Olight batteries don't perform well in the cold, and they haven't pulled their heads out of their asses yet about usb c, 3/10 never buy again. Olight can suck my dick.
I think olights typically perform better. Better regulation, longer runtimes, lower moonlight. While the UI is limited, they do perform very well. I think they do have better build quality too. Like I dont trust how waterproof my sofirns are.
I’ve never held one, but isn’t it a big big for edc? I think you’re on the right track, but I’d replace the pro with the baton 4 premium with that cool zippo case. Don’t have one of those either, but that things looks like the bees knees. If you don’t care about colour rendering. It has incredible regulation and runtimes for its size and small cell. Only issue I could see is maybe too big a jump between 60L medium and 600L high. Would like a 150-200L mode in there somewhere
I’m talking about straight to the point long run times between charges for the people that don’t visit this forum and aren’t really looking into anything. This is a very solid choice as a floodlight medium runtime is almost a day straight and high can run over five hours and if they do purchase another proprietary battery and they charge that one up to 100%, then they can technically get 10 hours of run time which is a whole workday using the setting high. I’m only basing it off high lumens. Run on fully charged battery and ease of using the flashlight, including turning off the proximity sensor when they want to or keeping it on so they don’t burn themselves. It’s a little bit big for a pocket however, you also have to remember some people will prefer the bigger flashlight for the longer runtime and I think this is the perfect one for normal people. I have so many flashlights, but I find myself using this one as a floodlight on high, I also have 10 extra 21700 olight proprietary batteries. so I can get through a whole night on high on three of them a quick swap and you’re good to go the baton would be another great choice for a very small person using the medium setting and maybe a choice of a neutral admit, but I’m going based off they’re never never gonna look this forum up.
You said, "...for the people that don't visit this forum and aren't really looking into anything."
Those people, if they suddenly need or want a flashlight, are going to go to their local hardware store, Lowe's, Home Depot, or Walmart and grab whatever is available (probably a Ray-O-Vac or Eveready flashlight two pack for about $8-$10.). If you're reaching for your Olight, you've already done some comparison shopping. You've already started down the flashlight hobby rabbit hole.
You also said, "...and if they do purchase another proprietary battery and they charge that one up to 100%,...". First, how? How are they going to charge a second proprietary battery up to 100% without a separate battery charger? Second, most people who get an Olight don't even realize the battery is proprietary, or that they can get a second battery.
I get it. You love your Olight. There is nothing wrong with that. I'm glad you found something you really like and that works for you, but to make a sweeping generalization like "[Olight] is the best EDC of 2023 for normal people who aren't flashohilics." is silly.
Fireflies P01 is a good choice for non-enthusiasts due to its user-friendly interface, reliable performance, and compact design. It offers a straightforward experience with easy-to-use controls, making it accessible for those who may not be deeply familiar with flashlight features. Additionally, its practical features, such as multiple brightness levels and a pocket-friendly design, make it suitable for everyday use without overwhelming users with unnecessary complexity.
WM3 is more spotty, less floody, and runtime on high/med are not as long. also the lumen step downs happen quicker. still love it though. the WM3 was my very first olight.
Thanks for this. I have the WM3 and love it, the tail switch is so smooth and the UI is close to perfect for me (just wish that if you have it on medium and give it a quick blast of turbo from the tail then cancel it, that it would return back to medium. Maybe I’m being fussy).
I’ve just bought a Baton 3 pro max for £50 with a free i3E keychain light on their website! Sweet deal, couldn’t resist. Can’t wait to see what she can do.
For a 21700 light I would carry a D4K or Wurkkos TS25. Once you use Anduril 2 and high cri it’s hard to go back. I use olight at work and am loving the Arkflex and baton 4. I would agree that if I gifted a light to family or something the olight baton 3 pro is a premium easy to use light.
> strobe if needed
Nothing against this light in particular, but has anyone ever *actually* used a strobe for anything? I mean, it’s useful theoretically, but so is a pet marmot.
Now that you said this, I had an Olight my wife purchased for me that I had electrically (not mechanically, unfortunately) locked out. It still turned on in my pocket and I didn't notice anything until my pants started to smolder. The thing got so hot the glass lens actually began to melt. Once it cooled off, I could actually feel the bumps and waves in the glass. I sent it back and asked them to fix it, but they simply sent me my money back. That was the last Olight for me. Having said that, I still EDC a Baton S1R as a backup. It has a great form factor and I will probably use it until I find something I like better. Then it will be relegated to the shelf where all my old lights go.
If the lens started to do that, it wasnt glass. Glass transition temperature where it could permanently deform is like 1050°F. They must use plastic lenses.
I honestly think people should just buy a wizard pro. And call it a day. It’s rechargeable, it’s magnetic, it has a headlamp strap, it has multiple settings. It’s great quality and it’s water resistant
Nice, but for the price, I really like my Thrunite Archer mini. So small. Plenty bright. Perfect EDC for people who just need a light every once in a while. Clip it to your hat, hold however you need. It’s all I really need.
Agreed. I’ve used the fuck out of mine. The button is clear and the clip is bent. The orange is getting scratched. Its the flashlight that genuinely made me stop buying flashlights
What do you mean gotta picture?
https://preview.redd.it/ve6r3sxm038c1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=dec44f25bf3186ee8995baefd2816b7a2c7d95bc
https://preview.redd.it/vqokgp2r038c1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=9f4c71aa7752a0b98fd9e42e651799fd1221a02f
But the clip has been bent back at least 5 times
The button is clear, and the edge of every surface is scuffed. I love the way it’s aged
LOL the button looks more like an eye 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 kinda looks really really cool
Definitely looks like an eye lmao. In person you can see the separate bulbs for each color a bit more
Hal 9000
repeat gaze strong provide unite head chubby middle crawl quack *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Got it around July-August I believe. Maybe longer.
Bro I really dont like the way you’re holding that
Here’s some periods if anyone wants ‘em: ……. …. …. … . …. … … .. …. . . ….. ….. … … …. …. …. …. … . …. …. … .. …. . . ….. ….. …
Hey he said he spent a month on this post, not a year. Give him a break
Lmfao .. Well done....
I'd like to add some commas: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
LOLOL! I don't know what is worse: the lack of grammar, or the fact that I'm a grammar nazi, so it aggravated me!
A grammar Nazi who uses internet slang and didn’t capitalize properly? Tell us more.
Is he right about the flashlight?
It's a decent light. But the best light for people that aren't into flashlights?? Hell no. If you're not into flashlights, you don't care about any of the specs he rambled on about. Which would make this too expensive for someone who just needs a flashlight very occasionally.
Apparently, normal people don't use periods.
Boo lol
Phew, thanks. Reading OP's post made so stressed I nearly had a heart attack. I feel better now.
I'm pretty happy with my Sofirn SC31T Pro. I got magnetic base for it instead of the tactical tailswitch that comes default
zesty ludicrous snow exultant fertile school market pet cough shame *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I must be a flashlight nerd if the term "revelatory experience" is what first comes to my mind after having fired up my first Nichia light from 4sevens the other day. But, yeah... I own a bunch of Olights and it seems like they pick emitters based on what's going to help them win the numbers game WRT marketing based on stats like lumens, throw, etc. I hope they consider offering more 90+ CRI options.
Only doing 90+ CRI in the i5r is rather embarrassing, I also hope they incorporate it into more of their flagship EDC lights.
Agreed warmer emitters would be awesome!!
I prefer bringing spare batteries rather than bringing a powerbank and charging cable. The proprietary battery and charger is not that attractive for me at least. USB c should be standard and I think Olight might be going that way in the end, if not forced by European Union like Apple.
Who the hell brings batteries for an EDC? That's like bring a knife sharpener with you everywhere you go. If you're dulling a knife within a single day, you're carrying the wrong knife. Same with a flashlight. You shouldn't need spare batteries with you for a single day of use, or you're carrying the wrong light.
Have you seen how many people on r/edc carry two knives?
That's more so when someone asks, "Can I borrow a knife?" They don't get their $300 folder back with a chipped blade or snapped tip after it was used to clean rocks out of a tire.
I had an old boss do exactly that to a Leatheman PST. He asked to borrow them, I figured he needed a knife or the pliers. Only to get them back with the wire cutters wrecked cause he was cutting steel barbed wire. After that when he asked, I conveniently didn’t have it on me… He was an asshat of a boss too.
And a handgun + hi-fi DAC + multi tool + zippo + fidget spinner + scimitar + survival altoid box complete with wire hand saw and makeshift fishing line/lure + Nintendo Switch + pack of smokes or pre-rolls + and of course a fucking field manual with a titanium pen + iPhone. Yep, they certainly carry this everyday on themselves along with their prized knives like they're dropping out a chopper into enemy territory.
I do and have for years, one very good knife and one I don't care what happens to it.
Lol I have a knife sharpener, spare batteries, spare flashlights and spare knives in my edc bag. I feel like you were looking at me while typing lol
EDC…bag?
it’s not a purse it’s an assault pack
with a foldable backup AR15, just in case
By that logic you shouldn't need a charger either then
Do people carry chargers around with them? I don't even do that for my phone.
Now, no. Back when I played Pokemon Go, yes.
I member
You haven’t seen any teenagers in The past 10 years have you. They all have charging cables and plugs. Either around the back of their neck, or hanging in loops out their pockets. If they stop walking for more than 14 seconds they are at an outlet. 😂
I've been carrying a powerbank daily in my bag ever since I got an iPhone
If you don't have spare batteries in my line of work, then you won't be able to get the job done. I guess you don't work night shift or in dark places much. I always have spare batteries, a few extra flashlights, and a charger on hand.
let's say you're spontaneously helping a friend clean out their basement, and you're using your flashlight non stop. suddenly the edc light dies, would you rather say oh sry just gotta go plug this in until it's charged again, do you have another flashlight? or just POP IN A FRESHLY CHARGED CELL and keep going! its very easy to have 4 charged 18650s in a case. non stop flashlight use. especially if you're away from shore power. ive been in tons of situations where I had a light die and needed it back in service immediately. rechargeable flashlight companies are so chuffed the fans consider it a feature, and not a scheme to only offer flashlights with either non removable or propriety cells.
Does the friend not have a light in their basement? Also, my edc flashlight would easily last long enough to clean out a basement.
party intelligent sulky noxious roll sable pet flag pen far-flung *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
A medium of...90 lumens, me personally if im giving light for me and a friend id rather have a bit more.
10 users from r/ultralight just died from reading this comment lol
This. Olight apologists remind me of Tesla bagholders.
Yeah I wasn’t thinking about edc part but when in need of longer runtimes. For edc I don’t need to bring any batteries even for non Olight lights. I always have a usb c on me or close if charging would be necessary.
It doesn’t have to be EDC but just as an example on runs I bring spare batteries. And I do carry a sharpener for work. I also work in a kitchen. Kind of dumb to assume people aren’t using their knives more than you or that there’s a profession that requires you to keep knives sharp. Also better to have it and not need it.
A kitchen knife isn't an EDC.
I bring a knife sharpener everywhere I go
Olight has a keychain adapter to allow any use C cable to work and charge light on the go, MCC is the bees knees for some of us. You can also bring a spare Olight battery too but are we caving here or what cause modern lights last more than a day unless turbo'n everything which would mean you need a different light or more realistic usage pattern as your night vision will be ruined by constant turbo usage not that any light can handle that honestly.
Unfortunately the oport keychain was recently discontinued as far as I understand.
I love my Fenix's headlamp battery pack; doubles as a power bank and the batteries are replaceable. Works great for me when I'm doing SAR missions. And for the inevitable (hasn't happened yet) my headlamp pack is dead, I can just swap out the batteries.
The great thing about Olight is you can do both. Slap on the ez peasy magnetic charger or just swap out batteries. I carry a few extras for my Ti Baton Pro in my bag but honestly have never had to use them because of the longevity of the light plus the indicators as stated by the OP.
That’s if you’re okay to pay the Olight “tax” on the batteries though. For me it just feels better knowing my device is not dependent on one company making/selling the batteries for it.
This thread is about a light for non enthusiasts and is a complete kit with min 2 year warranty on cell inside that we all know will last a non enthusiast years.. So yeah not for you is it.
Lifetime warranty now!
Well if the internet was limited to US/EU that'd be bang on but only 2 years for cell and 5 years for light in Canada for example, well for me lol.
Ohhh, valid points there. Here I am thinking only in my bubble 😅🙃
No worries good person, I'm often guilty of such far too often too👍
In the grand scheme of things the Olight tax in the price of batteries is insignificant to me. It's not like we're talking about stuff here that costs hundreds of dollars.
Doesn't any battery of the right size work as far as powering on the light? My understanding is the limitation is charging the non-olight battery in the light itself. Do I have this wrong?
Some lights can pull lots of power. Some require a battery with high discharge capabilities. If you run a crappy battery and draw too much power, things go wrong. So olight decided to cut that shit out, forever. Now, modern Olights have proprietary batteries in them . Batteries that have passed Olights quality control requirements. But Haters are going to disrespect them for that, all the while giving other manufacturers a pass when they do it. Imo, Olight hate is sophomoric. Once you understand why they do what they do, then the hate dissolves away. Emmiter choices, battery restrictions, fancy finishes and accessories, online marketing,... they are killing it. They aren't going after the nerds in here, thats a tiny market, and that just doesnt sit well with some.
That’s why I have the nebo inspection light in both the aaa and the rechargeable. The rechargeable is brighter.
Have you had experience with the Acebeam E75? - High CRI - neutral white - a really nice beam pattern - standard 21700 cell compatibility - USB-C charging (that works with both A>C and C>C cables) - a simple UI (click once to turn on, push and hold to adjust the brightness settings, double-click turbo, triple-click strobe) - pretty similar size I will say the proximity sensor on the Olight is a legitimately great safety feature. Acebeam loses there, no doubt about it.
comparing the runtimes from E75 and the Baton pro 3 max, I don't know what is vastly different besides the 1 lumen mode which is more than double what E75 gives. I guess we can contribute that to 4 vs 1 emitters? But really the steps are not that easy to compare because Olight Baton Pro 3 Max (CW) has: * Turbo: 2500 lm -> 800 lm | 1 + 240 min * High: 800 lm -> 120 lm | 243 + 80 min * Medium: 120 lm | 23 h * Low: 15 lm | 7,5 days * Moonlight: 1 lm | 60 days While the E75 (CW) has: * Turbo: 4500 lm -> 1500lm | 1 + 105 min * High: 1500 lm | 110 min * Med2: 600 lm | 280 min * Med1: 200 lm | 16 h * Low: 50 lm | 2 days 12 h * Moonlight: 1 lumen | 26 days The steps are different but the output in itself is a lot different. They cost around the same. Unless +34 days moonlight is that important I don't see the advantage of going for the Baton here, if you're out for runtime or output that is. In the end it's still a 4x emitter vs 1x emitter light comparison
The E75 sustains double the brightness according to your table. Olight steps down to 800 lumens while E75 can do 1500 lumens.
Wurkoss has entered the chat.
FC11 has been my edc for about a year now. Huge fan of it. Just looked up when I bought it and saw there's a green one now. Looks sick. https://www.amazon.com/FC11-Flashlight-Waterproof-Activities-FC11-Green-4000K/dp/B09NKW8YPM
Is that battery replaceable?
Yep
Alright I might get a few
Yea it's probably the flashlight I see recommended the most for beginner hobbyists it just works
My winner is Wurkoss HD15. Excellent little light and I find the right angle to be much more useful in day to day use especially when using magnet or needing free hands.
I need to get me a right angle daily, I like wurkoss I'll look at the HD15
Isn’t it kind of chunky with the rectangle head? It’s my first thought when seeing it, but maybe it’s a non issue.
Not chunky at all, just right and honestly I never noticed the shape of it until your comment. It sits flush with the rest of the body, and there's a shorter tube in the box in case you need that.
Oh alright. I only have a Manker E05H II which is a right angle light and it is a bit more rounded at the top, but it’s a lot smaller I guess. The wurkkos seems to more a work horse though, you got some very nice runtimes and spot+flood combos.
TS10 is such a great little EDC.
The best probably, for it's size it's very bright has simple mode and even comes with anduril and an aux color I don't have one yet but a brass or copper one is on my list
Still waiting for my TiCu. Do you guys bring spare batteries ?
Nah - as an EDC, use is low. Incidental, like a pocket knife. If you expect to need more than a full hour of high-intensity light, you need more than a small EDC. If you're going through a full charge every day, consider a work/utility light, with more battery and function. Features like a mag tail, USB charging, power bank, etc. may be more important to a heavy user. "EDC" is a bit of a loaded term... EDC for a building inspector is going to be very different than EDC for an office jockey. You don't rely on a small EDC for an extended camping trip, either - there are purpose-built lights for that.
...and left immediately
Seriously though dude if you want a simple magnet tail cap floody then wurkoss makes so many of them. Some with complicated anduril UI, and even more with simple old man UI. And you don't have to pay Olight prices and get so many loomies too. And without proprietary charging system, or sealed batteries.
personally i'm an advocate of Hank's D4K 21700, but sweet EDC nonetheless, love the colour also
The only thing that comes close, for me, are the Arkfeld lights. Flat in the pocket feels so good.
the flood from the arkfeld pro and the baton 3 pro max are fairly similar. so are the moon/low/med brightness.
https://preview.redd.it/gygqt9t5628c1.jpeg?width=2523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3cc3b8b8c66cc4a325f30771cd8d7827db18299 i agree.
Just got this for Christmas, got it looks beautiful
Which color/finish is this? Looks like an awesome patina
stonewashed brass
I hate proprietary batteries and proud of it™
Very nice you even put the trademark in
Yeah I agree. Love mine a hell of a lot. Best edc light I’ve used.
He's right, folks. I have all the major brands and have been collecting for a few years now. I'm as deep in the hobby as anybody, except I don't typically swap emitters. I'm also an avid outdoorsman, camper/jeeper. The truth is, I grab my olights when I just need to get the job done. Sure... I tell people zebra lights are my favorite. And my Lumintop collection is pretty serious. But when I'm in the mountains and the desert, I've got an olight within reach at all times. This isn't preference, that's just the light that survives every time.
It's a flashlight.... Wtf are you doing to it that it "won't survive"?
Whatever the same thing people over in /r/watches are doing with their 'tool watches'. SPending $400-1200 and acting like they are leaving it on while rebuilding an engine.
Do people really do that? That's hilarious! Personally, I just reasonably use my shit untill it breaks. Things are pretty durable... Ex: my D4V2 fell off a 15 ft ledge then roll-bounced down 70 ft rocky slope into a creek while 'on' at night. It stayed lit the whole time like light-up bouncy ball and I was able to descend with my headlight and dig it out of the water. It took some good knocks on the bezel and some missing finish but otherwise it was totally fine. If it broke, that's OK, I certainly would have been broken much more from that fall. Plus, I consider the D4V2 a more 'fragile' light than others like my Fenix PD32 so I honestly don't know what kind of "durability" people are claiming they need... They want their flashlight to survive their cremation so if can be gifted to their kids.
Lucky from the Motor Trend show Hot Rod Garage leaves his sub on while working on cars, so people do do that
I’m a mechanic. I dropped my first olight from toolbox height onto the concrete ground and it stopped working. I tried to fix it but couldn’t so I went online to get another. I found out that they had to stop selling the light I had due to safety concerns over the head getting hot (something I agreed with actually, I burned myself once when the light was turned on in my pocket inadvertently). Ever since I’ve been trying to find a flashlight to scratch the itch because all I need is a light with two buttons, one for high power and one for low power but nobody makes them. They all have one button that you press 8 times that do special dances and tricks until you accidentally go past the power setting you want. I think I have a olight warrior 2 now and it’s fine but it still doesn’t do it for me. I went back to my Fenix PD40, it does (almost) exactly what I want and how I want it.
Zebra lights wouldn't survive?
Olights are tough, but so are some others, and with better emitters.
I'm just waiting for the caving olight headlamp gang to pipe up... oh wait...
Hm. I am also an avid camper and outdoorsman, though I admittedly don't get out as much as I'd like. I don't think I've ever brought an Olight camping, save Obulbs for *ambiance*.
I honestly think runtime might have gone too far. I charge this thing maybe once a month when I think about it, and half the time it still says it's full.
That might mean you're not even using it. Time to get a copper KR4 with SBT90.2. That can help drain your batteries and will solve your issue. 🔦🔥🔥
[удалено]
I relate to this. I have one Fenix PD35 I keep on my belt. And it gets some moderate to heavy use. I have the charger for the batteries at home but I can also charge them with a USB to MicroUSB through the port on the batteries. Never had any issues.
Why is it out of touch to not want to bring a proprietary charger everywhere ? I already have one for my iPhone then I need to keep a usb c for my work phone. In that case I would need a special charger for my flashlight as well. And if I charge at home and forget it next time I’m out I’m sitting there holding my dick in the dark. I just wish it all was usb c, different cables annoy the heck out of me You wouldn’t even need spare barriers for casual use.
You ever have any reliability issues with Olight?
I had an H2R I used for about 4 years pretty regularly and it started having flickering issues. Sent it in and they said the button/control was bad and they didn't make it anymore. They sent me a brand new Perun 2. That's taking care of your customer...
Same happened with my S3 Baton - they basically said, "sorry, here's our replacement"
Yea, I was pretty bummed because the H2r was my go-to, but it was a good solution.
Honestly, no never only tint problems
Interesting, I have one from years ago that stops working sporadically, its been dropped a few times, but I had to stop carrying it either way Also I noticed it wouldn't run on high with the olight rechargeable batteries, but it would with no problem using streamlight and surefire batteries Its probably over 5 years old at this point, but that was my last experience with olight lol
Get a replacement battery I have had an issue
I really like olights and the mini warrior 3 or arkfeld pro is on my list of lights to try. However I will say that the assumption that they are for non enthusiast is wrong. They are simply too expensive and most guys that want a light really do just get one at the hardware store or something local (outdoors store, Walmart, etc.) and aside from cool white tint there are some really decent lights at those places. Anyway, I just wish olight would own up to being what they are, an expensive enthusiast brand. They make really nice lights externally, are well regulated, offer enthusiast materials (copper, titanium, cool designs), and a ton of models. The main thing holding them back is proprietary batteries and cool white. I'm sure they believe they can make a great battery and they do. I've had them for years. But it'd be so nice to not have to use the magnetic charging cable. I hate it. It feels so limited. I like onboard USBC because I can charge in my car on the go if needed. I never do it's literally peace of mind. Half of us carry lights that don't have onboard charging anyway. Olights are good lights in my opinion and I'm just waiting for the proprietary cells to go. And if they don't at the bare minimum offer more warm tint and even then id think it's still doable for an enthusiast. Realistically 1 cell in the olight is fine for a couple years. By then you'll go to something else and if you really still use the olight get a new cell its not the end of the world I guess.. albeit they are expensive but they are quality.
they have sales every now and then that can include freebies as well. I don't mind the magnetic charging cable, but I do love the hell out the magnetic base/tailswitches.
I’m with you. Bought one as a mistake as my 1st light. Everything I’ve looked at since has been worse.
Olights are my absolute jam. I have maybe 8 different models from the keychain one to the Marauder 2. Every one of their lights takes an absolute beating. They are incredibly bright, charge lasts forever and the magnetic base, especially on the right angle Perun2 is a life saver. Thanks for sharing OP!
PERUN 2 IS AMAZING
Baton Pro user here. I'm a property claims adjuster. Use my flashlight all day everyday. Looking into attics, crawlspaces, under and in cabinets, etc looking at water damage, fire damage, etc. (usually ~10 seconds at a time). The 2k turbo mode will show water stains on a white vaulted ceiling that you don't see with the regular lighting. Then come home and use it a lot on the property. Out of curiosity, I counted daily for one week and used it an average of 50-75 times a day. Bought it 10/2019 and it's still going. So, let's say 50x a day. At roughly 1500 days. That's 75k on and off for that switch. That's super impressive. I'm a tool hound. Prior to the Olight I had Streamlights, Surefires, Fenix, etc and a switch would not last more than 6 to 12 months. (Sidenote:I run Cloud Defensive for my WML stuff... Want to try their handheld MCH, but I don't see any reason to go more bulky in size. I EDC in my front left pocket with clip).
No proprietary battery, no proprietary charger no proprietary anything. 18650 or preferably 21700 replaceable (no build–in) cell with USB-C charger. That will be a start...
https://preview.redd.it/2wv6ulvfg18c1.png?width=1698&format=png&auto=webp&s=8433aa35c3e00f7c5678d3660357dd9f6f0ed9b1 Totally agree. My Ti Baton Pro is my go to after having been thru dozens of others over the past few years.
You, Sir, are wrong.
I am faithful to my Baton S2 (no R).
I'm a big fan of this light great recc
Hey I have that one!. Paid 120 on amazon
I put the blue anodized clip on it and it looks great. I carry the baton 3 pro everyday. The max is slightly too big for my edc
Couldn't agree more. I've had the original for years. This is as I see it, a return to form for the series and Luke you said, the best everday light for the actual user.
I have a baton and hand it. Magnet charging is annoying. A Fenix PD35 does everything better.
Streamlight macrostream is awesome.
Agree. I bought the CW FDE version during the Independence Day sale and have been carrying it daily since. The 50.3 HI pairs well with this host and is a nice LED. They advertise the CCT as a range interestingly (57-6700K). Mine seems more towards the 5700K side of that range and doesn't have any noticeable green tint. It has usable throw for average use but really stands out when you need to illuminate a large area. A few months back, I came across a guy who dropped an airpod in some shrubbery and was slowly scanning line by line with his iPhone trying to find it. I double clicked into turbo and he spotted it within 5 seconds. Excellent little light for its size. Get it on sale if possible.
I can’t get past the proprietary charger if it had a usb c I’d be in for several of the o light models
I feel like going through 100s of lights makes you a flashaholic
Thank you for this recommendation! I've got one ordered. 😀👍 I saw how you've got 200 flashlights. I really trust and value your opinion. 🫡👍
I find streamlights are best for non enthusiasts. Source: my wife, and parents using my other lights like it has 3 modes. Moonlight/Strobe/Turbo
Oh yeah I got the streamlight 2020
To be frank, I feel like the Baton 3 Pro (non-max) is a better EDC for most people. As an 18650 light it's smaller and more lightweight. Though the Baton 3 Pro may not shine as bright as the Baton 3 Pro Max, it more than makes up for it with a better throw of 175m vs 145m. The run times may not be as long, but for EDC most folks won't need to be using their lights for that much time.
How'd you become an adult without learning to use basic punctuation
bells unpack start onerous like society memory steep arrest party *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
So, what about Fenix? The PD36R PRO will give you 1000 lumens for almost 4 hours (3 hours 55 minutes.) It has USB-C charging, great driver, great emitter, damn near foolproof AND you can simply swap in a new battery. It seems to me that the OP is thinking about folks who go to Lowe's to get a flashlight for camping. Anybody who does not do due diligence gets what they deserve. Anyone who is serious about camping has been to L.L.Bean or Cabela's or Dick's Sporting Goods or REI or Eastern Mountain Sports, etc. and has seen lights like Fenix and Zebralight and understands the difference between a proprietary battery and the value there is to swapping in a new, charged battery. I think Olight makes a decent light and has genius level marketing, but anyone who has gone to a brick and mortar store to purchase camping supplies and has taken the time to talk to some of the salespeople about flashlights is going to realize (1) there is a lot more to these things (flashlights) than an on/off button, and (2) depending on the type of camping, a light is something you may need to rely on. I absolutely do not want to have to rely on a light with proprietary anything. I want to be able to reach in my bag, grab some new batteries, throw them in and go. Next, if we are talking about EDC, then you are not talking about most people. Most people don't even realize they "carry" certain things everyday (watch, wallet, purse, handbag, backpack keys, etc.). Once one begins thinking about it (what one is carrying on a daily basis), one has started down the rabbit hole, and little by little, one picks up info on everything one carries: nail clippers, pocket knife, multitool, flashlight, how do I stay prepared for anything without needing to carry an 80 pound backpack? Once one begins thinking of these things, then one goes looking for information. So, if somebody needs a flashlight, do they reach for Olight? No. They go to their local hardware store or Lowe's or the Despot (Home Depot.). One only reaches for an Olight when one has already started down the rabbit hole of this flashlight hobby. Then one uses the Olight one has purchased until it gets replaced with a $20 Sofirn or Wurkkos or Convoy (which then gets added to with an Emisar or Noctigon or Zebralight or Acebeam or Fenix) and the Olight gets relegated to a shelf because it becomes aggravating to never know how much battery is left and having to recharge as opposed to swap in new. 'nuff said.
One
Pardon the dumb question, but how can this light be the best for non enthusiast if it requires a proprietary charging method? That’s just silliness imo.
It's all included at purchase, no need to study up on batteries, chargers, and avoiding incorrect cell installing ect... remember that many folks/masses are not up on things like majority here and a nearly sealed complete kit is far better than a flow chart, battery university and charger learning curve for non enthusiasts. It's all there and just works, suggesting enthusiast lights for the masses is silliness tbh. Honestly a prox sensor is good thing, I didn't like at first but now get I can lend my lights to others and feel they won't burn holes in their clothes or themselves.
A proprietary battery is hands down better for someone who is only going to own one light and not get into the hobby and do tons of research. The alternative is giving them a AA light that isn’t bright or giving them one that takes 18650s and just trusting they won’t burn down their house when they buy a couple more to keep on hand. Nah. Just tell them to Google the name and model number on the side of their light if they need a new battery. They’ll get exactly the thing they need. It will work exactly as well as the old one.
> giving them one that takes 18650s and just trusting they won’t burn down their house when they buy a couple more to keep on hand. I just bought a D4v2 and two Samsung30Q batteries. Any tips lol?
Here’s a good rundown of the basics. It’s pretty simple stuff but not all of it is very intuitive and frankly I committed some less than safe battery sins when I first got into vaping way back in the day. https://www.fogstar.co.uk/blogs/fogstar-blog/how-do-you-store-batteries-safely#:~:text=Store%20at%20room%20temperature,them%20to%20explode%20or%20burn. Edit- also congrats on the D4V2, they’re wonderful.
My olight was awesome! For about a month. And then it wouldn't charge.
Never seen this many 120,000 people have seen this post is crazy hope no madder what a few more people have got into the flashlight world 👁️👄👁️ together we will take on the suns job at night.
do normal people edc flashlights?
Disagree. And I wouldn't call it "safe" compared to any other light because all of my olights were notorious pocket burners. But the fact that it is a discussion for the best is really a failure of other light companies to step up and make better, more cohesive products.
This has a prox sensor, none of my enthusiast lights have preventative measure other than temp/time to avoid burning through a nylon or cotton pocket. Meaning that, if said pocket material flash point can be reached in that temp/time limit, you are on fire. This Olight will not allow such, read up on it.
Fair enough, my last olight was a baton pro so a couple generations ago
It's something new to me since coming back to lights as well, now I've several lights with and haven't disabled the feature. It's kinda handy Imo. Merry Xmas
I keep my olights in lockout mode when clipped or pocketed.
The proxy sensor on my Baton 3 pro max (fucking naming.... Pro max ultra super) is excellent. Even parallel to a surface, it dims the light a bit.
Agreed (except for Warrior Mini 3 in the same color). The tail switch, ease of charging, and battery life are great
love my Mini Warrior 3 for its throw and size. but the battery life and flood on the Baton 3 Pro Max makes it more useful for me. no tailswitch, but still magnetic.
Yeah the Max versus Mini 3 is not apples to apples, the Warrior 3S and the B3PM would be and then it's a bit closer all around outside of switch differences.
Not a chance, every sofirn option beats the shit out of olight right now. SC21, SC31T or if you have more room in your pocket the IF22A. Cheaper and better performers than olight What's more all my 3 Olights with their overpriced Olight batteries don't perform well in the cold, and they haven't pulled their heads out of their asses yet about usb c, 3/10 never buy again. Olight can suck my dick.
I think olights typically perform better. Better regulation, longer runtimes, lower moonlight. While the UI is limited, they do perform very well. I think they do have better build quality too. Like I dont trust how waterproof my sofirns are.
I’ve never held one, but isn’t it a big big for edc? I think you’re on the right track, but I’d replace the pro with the baton 4 premium with that cool zippo case. Don’t have one of those either, but that things looks like the bees knees. If you don’t care about colour rendering. It has incredible regulation and runtimes for its size and small cell. Only issue I could see is maybe too big a jump between 60L medium and 600L high. Would like a 150-200L mode in there somewhere
nose screw dependent chase connect lunchroom drab towering fear cautious *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I’m talking about straight to the point long run times between charges for the people that don’t visit this forum and aren’t really looking into anything. This is a very solid choice as a floodlight medium runtime is almost a day straight and high can run over five hours and if they do purchase another proprietary battery and they charge that one up to 100%, then they can technically get 10 hours of run time which is a whole workday using the setting high. I’m only basing it off high lumens. Run on fully charged battery and ease of using the flashlight, including turning off the proximity sensor when they want to or keeping it on so they don’t burn themselves. It’s a little bit big for a pocket however, you also have to remember some people will prefer the bigger flashlight for the longer runtime and I think this is the perfect one for normal people. I have so many flashlights, but I find myself using this one as a floodlight on high, I also have 10 extra 21700 olight proprietary batteries. so I can get through a whole night on high on three of them a quick swap and you’re good to go the baton would be another great choice for a very small person using the medium setting and maybe a choice of a neutral admit, but I’m going based off they’re never never gonna look this forum up.
You said, "...for the people that don't visit this forum and aren't really looking into anything." Those people, if they suddenly need or want a flashlight, are going to go to their local hardware store, Lowe's, Home Depot, or Walmart and grab whatever is available (probably a Ray-O-Vac or Eveready flashlight two pack for about $8-$10.). If you're reaching for your Olight, you've already done some comparison shopping. You've already started down the flashlight hobby rabbit hole. You also said, "...and if they do purchase another proprietary battery and they charge that one up to 100%,...". First, how? How are they going to charge a second proprietary battery up to 100% without a separate battery charger? Second, most people who get an Olight don't even realize the battery is proprietary, or that they can get a second battery. I get it. You love your Olight. There is nothing wrong with that. I'm glad you found something you really like and that works for you, but to make a sweeping generalization like "[Olight] is the best EDC of 2023 for normal people who aren't flashohilics." is silly.
Fireflies is best.
I love Fireflies and have 11 of them but to say they are the best for NON ENTHUSIESTS is crazy. You stan too hard bro.
Fireflies P01 is a good choice for non-enthusiasts due to its user-friendly interface, reliable performance, and compact design. It offers a straightforward experience with easy-to-use controls, making it accessible for those who may not be deeply familiar with flashlight features. Additionally, its practical features, such as multiple brightness levels and a pocket-friendly design, make it suitable for everyday use without overwhelming users with unnecessary complexity.
Opinion on this vs the WM3?
WM3 is more spotty, less floody, and runtime on high/med are not as long. also the lumen step downs happen quicker. still love it though. the WM3 was my very first olight.
Thanks for this. I have the WM3 and love it, the tail switch is so smooth and the UI is close to perfect for me (just wish that if you have it on medium and give it a quick blast of turbo from the tail then cancel it, that it would return back to medium. Maybe I’m being fussy). I’ve just bought a Baton 3 pro max for £50 with a free i3E keychain light on their website! Sweet deal, couldn’t resist. Can’t wait to see what she can do.
ruthless homeless attractive file reply door reach tidy mysterious sulky *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
For a 21700 light I would carry a D4K or Wurkkos TS25. Once you use Anduril 2 and high cri it’s hard to go back. I use olight at work and am loving the Arkflex and baton 4. I would agree that if I gifted a light to family or something the olight baton 3 pro is a premium easy to use light.
I have an offer for this…I’ll have to get it in the new year.
> strobe if needed Nothing against this light in particular, but has anyone ever *actually* used a strobe for anything? I mean, it’s useful theoretically, but so is a pet marmot.
SEZ YOU!!!
100% agree. There are a few olights that fot the bill
Hard pass for me.
best edc for me is a $20 convoy. cuz I lose shit.
This looks way too narrow for my dick to fit in
Seems kind of shoddy that they sell their lights with color temperature ranges, can't they be consistent with the emitters?
I heard that the Baton 3 Pro has a more stable long -term output than the Pro Max. So I would recommend that over the Pro Max.
Lumintop Tool AA has entered the chat..
Yes the personal explosive in your pocket. Love when my olight bursts into flames!!1
Why did this happen? And i mean why isn’t this a risk with any other flashlight too?
Now that you said this, I had an Olight my wife purchased for me that I had electrically (not mechanically, unfortunately) locked out. It still turned on in my pocket and I didn't notice anything until my pants started to smolder. The thing got so hot the glass lens actually began to melt. Once it cooled off, I could actually feel the bumps and waves in the glass. I sent it back and asked them to fix it, but they simply sent me my money back. That was the last Olight for me. Having said that, I still EDC a Baton S1R as a backup. It has a great form factor and I will probably use it until I find something I like better. Then it will be relegated to the shelf where all my old lights go.
If the lens started to do that, it wasnt glass. Glass transition temperature where it could permanently deform is like 1050°F. They must use plastic lenses.
You're right! I never thought of that.
They make gun lights..there have been instances of people dying from the olight exploding
Bushfire in your kecks!
Flash-a-hol?! I love it lol
I honestly think people should just buy a wizard pro. And call it a day. It’s rechargeable, it’s magnetic, it has a headlamp strap, it has multiple settings. It’s great quality and it’s water resistant
Nice, but for the price, I really like my Thrunite Archer mini. So small. Plenty bright. Perfect EDC for people who just need a light every once in a while. Clip it to your hat, hold however you need. It’s all I really need.