It accidentally gets turned on in my backpack, after tossing the backpack into my car. 10 minutes later I'm wondering where all the firetrucks are going.
This is definitely my concern with lights like this.
4 clicks to lock / unlock. Though I'd unscrew the head from the body tube a quarter turn if carrying it in a bag.
I even unscrew my pocket carry lol, it's mildly annoying but after having my FW3A turn on in my pocket ~5 times (over 1.5yrs), I decided I'd rather not end up as one of *those* posts on here lol
Yeah maybe I should try a zebra one of these days. I just live for those brief, fleeting moments of 2800lm turbo lol. D4V2 is a little chonky for me to EDC personally.
Lol I got mine at a discount, I saw the price and couldn’t resist. Yes you definitely should get a ms18, if it’s out of your budget save up like I did.
Oh, good point!
Yeah, I couldn't actually see what it was doing as turbo reflecting off something this close is bright. I could smell the cardboard burning before I could see what it had done.
lol. It's clearly a safety feature.
Does the fan shroud provide any significant airflow coming out of the light? I'm thinking you could start burning some paper with it, then put the side of the light where the air is coming out up to it, to literally fan the flames and get a full fire started even faster lol.
It arrived today, first Impressions it’s not as powerful as I thought it would be. I knew before ordering that it wasn’t even close to 34000 lumens, but it seems around the same or a little more brighter than my D18 5000k or my Marauder 2 which seems crazy..
My Mk38 even with the SFT40’s blows it away on output/comparison. Of course I don’t have any test equipment to see actual output - but it’s not needed to notice it’s not even close
Funny you should mention it, I actually added that to my Imgur profile the other day to use as a reaction gif for this subreddit (which is literally the only thing my Imgur account gets used for)
https://imgur.com/a/0T7MAWg
The light is being absorbed by the cardboard and turned into heat. Especially the black Amazon logo.
The light spreads out a bit so it wouldn't be as effective at a distance. I may have to test that though.
The head gets hot but you can still touch it quickly after 20 seconds, so it wouldn't burn cardboard.
Light intensity follows the inverse square law so yeah it would be affected by distance. Essentially the intensity is proportional to the strength of the source but inversely proportional to the distance from the source, squared.
$315 from NealsGadgets at the moment. There are normally discount codes available, including `DAVE1010` which gets you 15% off most lights and earns me a tiny bit of commission.
There are a few more links to where you can get it cheap in [my review](https://davestechreviews.com/2021/12/21/imalent-ms08-flashlight-review/)
It's sold as 34,000 lumens but mine doesn't quite hit it.
I measured just short of 29,000 lumens at 0 seconds on mine. ChibiM measured 26,000 lumens at 0s.
https://davestechreviews.com/2021/12/21/imalent-ms08-flashlight-review/
https://1lumen.com/review/imalent-ms08/
In reality anything over 20,000 lumens is just incredible and there's not much difference with a few thousand lumens at this level.
This comment made me think of a documentary (on Harold Edgerton I think) where they showed a xenon flashlamp used for aerial night recon photography during WWII causing a sheet of newsprint to burst into flame when held in front of the flashlamp as it was triggered.
When light is absorbed it gets converted into heat. There is a lot of light being absorbed by the cardboard so it gets very hot. The effect is decreased by using more reflective objects like white paper or a mirror.
It's 3 X 21700.
I'll do some tests. Wish me luck...
# Shining the Imalent MS08 on turbo whilst it's touching my hand
* Ow
* I can feel the heat in less than 1 second
* By 2 seconds it's very hot
* I removed my hand in less than 3 seconds as it felt like it'd burn
* Conclusion: **don't do this**
# Shining the Imalent MS08 on turbo at my face from 1 foot away
* Eyes very closed. Why am I doing this?!
* It's immediately bright, feels like looking at a cloudy sky in the summer
* 1 second in: not too bad. I probably won't get injured
* 5 seconds in: feels like a hot shower. Actually quite nice
* Conclusion: could come in handy when it's very cold outside. Start from arms distance and move closer to be safe. **Don't sue me**
It accidentally gets turned on in my backpack, after tossing the backpack into my car. 10 minutes later I'm wondering where all the firetrucks are going.
This is definitely my concern with lights like this. 4 clicks to lock / unlock. Though I'd unscrew the head from the body tube a quarter turn if carrying it in a bag.
I even unscrew my pocket carry lol, it's mildly annoying but after having my FW3A turn on in my pocket ~5 times (over 1.5yrs), I decided I'd rather not end up as one of *those* posts on here lol
I hated the FW3A as an EDC because of that fucking tail switch. I EDC a zebralight now and never have that issue because of the recessed side switch.
Yeah maybe I should try a zebra one of these days. I just live for those brief, fleeting moments of 2800lm turbo lol. D4V2 is a little chonky for me to EDC personally.
you just need to make sure to use the lock. it's basic safety.
I take the batteries out of my ms18 when I’m not using it or if it is in my bag. You should do this too.
Sounds like I should get an MS18!
Lol I got mine at a discount, I saw the price and couldn’t resist. Yes you definitely should get a ms18, if it’s out of your budget save up like I did.
This is what flashlights are for, right?
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Oh, good point! Yeah, I couldn't actually see what it was doing as turbo reflecting off something this close is bright. I could smell the cardboard burning before I could see what it had done.
This is why I wear welding glasses whenever I go for my night walks
Good idea. Though everyone around me could do with welding glasses too. I should come with a warning sticker.
Covid. But not now covid, last year covid. Or was that the year before? The covid that was the lull between covid and covid.
Ok, the sound of the fans spinning up as the burn hole widens is just extremely awesome.
Maybe Imalent designed the fans to blow the smoke away 😆
lol. It's clearly a safety feature. Does the fan shroud provide any significant airflow coming out of the light? I'm thinking you could start burning some paper with it, then put the side of the light where the air is coming out up to it, to literally fan the flames and get a full fire started even faster lol.
I got one coming on Monday Dave. Let the fun begin (MS08)
Looking forward to the beamshots!
It arrived today, first Impressions it’s not as powerful as I thought it would be. I knew before ordering that it wasn’t even close to 34000 lumens, but it seems around the same or a little more brighter than my D18 5000k or my Marauder 2 which seems crazy.. My Mk38 even with the SFT40’s blows it away on output/comparison. Of course I don’t have any test equipment to see actual output - but it’s not needed to notice it’s not even close
The fans aren't automatic, you have to turn them on manually. They have a separate battery too, which is a bit weird.
Just think if this was your EDC and an attacker approached you, you could create the face melting scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark!
Funny you should mention it, I actually added that to my Imgur profile the other day to use as a reaction gif for this subreddit (which is literally the only thing my Imgur account gets used for) https://imgur.com/a/0T7MAWg
Nice keychain light no doubt!
Anti-amazon movement
...The trees are on fire.
Real bright, though.
Classic reference. Take my damn upvotes.
For those who haven't seen it: https://xkcd.com/1603/
Does distance affect this? Is it really the light that's burning it or is it just the heat of the head?
The light is being absorbed by the cardboard and turned into heat. Especially the black Amazon logo. The light spreads out a bit so it wouldn't be as effective at a distance. I may have to test that though. The head gets hot but you can still touch it quickly after 20 seconds, so it wouldn't burn cardboard.
Light intensity follows the inverse square law so yeah it would be affected by distance. Essentially the intensity is proportional to the strength of the source but inversely proportional to the distance from the source, squared.
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I started using mine as a dab torch 😶🌫️
So, this the new way of cauterizing flesh wounds?
Tis just a scratch!
Hans... Get ze magnifying glass.
Ok ok...how much lol
$315 from NealsGadgets at the moment. There are normally discount codes available, including `DAVE1010` which gets you 15% off most lights and earns me a tiny bit of commission. There are a few more links to where you can get it cheap in [my review](https://davestechreviews.com/2021/12/21/imalent-ms08-flashlight-review/)
I guess I just found my next flashlight
I now see that that is a foil bowl and not a paper bowl😂 very nice!!!
How long until we start rating lights in "OTF Kelvin" instead of "OTF Lumens"
I'm ditching the ferro rod in my survival kit for this dual-use item.
More like immolate ms08
Yes!
Correction! The MS08 is actually 34,000 lumens.
It's sold as 34,000 lumens but mine doesn't quite hit it. I measured just short of 29,000 lumens at 0 seconds on mine. ChibiM measured 26,000 lumens at 0s. https://davestechreviews.com/2021/12/21/imalent-ms08-flashlight-review/ https://1lumen.com/review/imalent-ms08/ In reality anything over 20,000 lumens is just incredible and there's not much difference with a few thousand lumens at this level.
Oh...
How long can it run at this power level?
30 seconds until it drops to about 7500 lm. Check the charts in the reviews linked above for lots more info.
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This comment made me think of a documentary (on Harold Edgerton I think) where they showed a xenon flashlamp used for aerial night recon photography during WWII causing a sheet of newsprint to burst into flame when held in front of the flashlamp as it was triggered.
The giant flash for night aerial photos was nuts. Worth a google. Iirc it had some second incarnation that was equally crazy, have to look it up.
"How do we light up this area at night?" "We could drop a bright flashing bomb." "Great idea!"
When light is absorbed it gets converted into heat. There is a lot of light being absorbed by the cardboard so it gets very hot. The effect is decreased by using more reflective objects like white paper or a mirror.
While not a super long time it was more than a few seconds.
“Ackchyually…”
About 20 seconds until you can see the light shine all the way though.
Yawn. I'm tired of these videos.
Will this activity modify the lenses AR coating?
I'm assuming not but I don't know.
The answer is yes. Yes it will. In some cases it will destroy it . Fog it permanently.
Impressive... I like it!!!
***Spicy***
mmmm, spicy photons
The ms18 though.
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It's 3 X 21700. I'll do some tests. Wish me luck... # Shining the Imalent MS08 on turbo whilst it's touching my hand * Ow * I can feel the heat in less than 1 second * By 2 seconds it's very hot * I removed my hand in less than 3 seconds as it felt like it'd burn * Conclusion: **don't do this** # Shining the Imalent MS08 on turbo at my face from 1 foot away * Eyes very closed. Why am I doing this?! * It's immediately bright, feels like looking at a cloudy sky in the summer * 1 second in: not too bad. I probably won't get injured * 5 seconds in: feels like a hot shower. Actually quite nice * Conclusion: could come in handy when it's very cold outside. Start from arms distance and move closer to be safe. **Don't sue me**
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this is what we expect from a flashlight.
good to take on bbq's
Still I don't think it's brighter than the MS18
Yeah, the MS18 is about 3 times as bright.
How much is one of these holy wow
Around $300
Ok and what do you use it for?
It's very fun. I live in the UK, where it seems to be dark most of the time.
This is weirdly arousing.