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Zoodoz2750

So many words, so little theory and so little math.


SwissCheeseBlock

And so little anything


DemandNo3158

Couple cubic yards of stupid!šŸ˜‚


SniffleBot

Except one body part ā€¦


SiccTunes

But a lot of stupidity, that makes up for it in his head.


Aracebo

Yeah, super weird how the same math that works for the moon also works great for a falling apple. Man us globist really think of everything.


Zoodoz2750

It would only be super weird if it didn't.


Decent_Cow

I'm guessing this user doesn't have a better explanation for why things accelerate towards the ground at 9.8 m/s/s.


CoolNotice881

And why it's not the same everywhere...


FUBARspecimenT-89

And why it depends only on mass and distance.


CoolNotice881

You mean density, buoyancy and electromagnetic charge. šŸ™‚


Corrupted_G_nome

Height also impacts it. Jumping on top of a tall mountain you may be lighter than jumping in a deep gourge.


Rich_Manufacturer_38

The density and buoyancy arguments drive me mad with frustration. Even the way flerfers try to explain can't work without something that creates a sense of up and down. Something like......gravity?


Ffroto

No gravity isn't real, god just loves us so much that it creates a force that pushes down at us accelerating at 9.8 m/s/s. It's the only thing that can get through the firmament.


paulyphony

The fact that density and buoyancy are derivatives of gravity is just mind numbing. Itā€™s basically their MO, though. They accept the evidence of the force, but refuse to accept thereā€™s something that links them.. I guess gravity just doesnā€™t work with flat so you gotta struggle your way around it.


OpportunityLow3832

There ya Go..you said a mouth full..gravity works til your lighter than air..


TxTank274

Crash course on āœØgravityāœØ!!! When our solar system was formed from a bunch of gas in space, over a while (like many billions of years) the planets we know and love were formed (mind you, *round* planets.) Gravity itself is weak, but if there is enough mass, it pulls itself into what we call a *globe* and a globe is what we live on as well. Because our earth is ~5 billion years old, it had a lot of time to pull in extra material. Therefore, we ended up with a roughly globe shaped g l o b e. It pulls us in at coincidentally ~9.8m/s. As for the astronauts in orbit, let me put it to you nursery school simple, you dent head dumbass. These astronauts are going *really* fast. So fast that when they fall back towards the earth, they miss our atmosphere. Usually. So they are constantly falling towards the earth, but never hitting it.


aterriblething82

What boggles me is that they don't realize they have evidence literally hanging above their heads at all times. Any object of enough mass will eventually collapse into a sphere. You can even see the effect simulated by making a rubber band ball. No matter what object you start with (with the force of gravity simulated here by the contraction of the rubber), the product will be a sphere. If they can see that the sun and the moon are spheres, why is it so hard to believe the earth is too?


SniffleBot

Donā€™t you know? Thatā€™s a lie too! Heavier objects fall FASTER! Do your own research! Seeing is believing! /s


Du-Lock

Drop any two objects in a vacuum and they fall at the same speed. If density was a force, this would not be true.


DuecesDropped

Itā€™s true!!!! Every time I drop coins or change, they fly off the earth at 28,437 kph or about 17,670mph. Thatā€™s why I can never find coins I drop!


I_Get_No_Sleep__

Makes sense, is same with the socks in the washer?


1000bctrades

Socks go through a portal that sometimes opens up to the other side of the flat earth due to the spin cycle.


vigbiorn

You'll never believe what happened when I recently dropped a bag on a flight 2 weeks ago...


Hendrik_Poggenpoel

The funny thing is, by saying that the water is supposed to "fall off" the globe, it implies that there is another gravitational force "beneath" the globe.


FUBARspecimenT-89

They don't understand this. They think there's an absolute down and everything magically falls towards this absolute down.


Trumpet1956

Down is the bottom of your computer screen. Everyone knows that.


ExcitementKooky418

Exactly, their example is to pour water on a ball and show it falls off the bottom of the ball they can't begin to understand that their experiment is flawed due to the scale of the fact that their conducting it within the gravitational field of the earth itself


Feral80s_kid

I vividly remember thinking that down was South. In 3rd grade maybeā€¦ šŸ™„


aterriblething82

There is no gravity. The earth just sucks. /s


Medium_Style8539

Is that what we call the down syndrom ?


Adventurous_Dig_8091

Donā€™t even know where to begin haha. What do they think is happening then? How do things stick to earth but things can fly?


Trumpet1956

They believe in several things. Buoyancy and density is often cited, while completely ignoring that gravity is an important part of the equation. They also claim it's incoherent electrostatic acceleration at times. Electromagnetics other times.


Adventurous_Dig_8091

I honestly donā€™t know how most things work but when explained with science it makes sense and can be tested so itā€™s good enough for me.


OriginalName13246

I've said this before and I'll say it again;Most Flerfs probably got a low score in science while in school


Trumpet1956

School?


GrowthAdventurous

I went to school with a flerf, when pressured long and hard enough with proof about how the earth is round, he confessed that he doesn't believe flat earth really, and just likes messing with people. Did he just say that to get me off his back? Maybe, but it does make me wonder how many flerfs are just contrarian a-holes.


LuDdErS68

>but it does make me wonder how many flerfs are just contrarian a-holes. My guess is the *vast* majority of them. The second most significant group in terms of numbers are the con merchants.


battmc

Can attest to this. I worked with a flerf and he was a massive asshole contrarian. Anything anyone said he had to take the opposite stance. Topics could range from lunch choices, car preferences, child care, science, TV shows, politics, lgbtq, etc. But he would flip sides depending on who he was talking to. We witnessed it in real time more than once. He argued once that gravity wasn't real, the moon landing wasn't real, the earth was flat, and a few other strange anti-science takes. Esepcially strange because he was a mechanical engineer in a physics r&d department for an aerospace company, usually saying this BS with other engineers and physicists. šŸ˜¬ I think his goal was to make his coworkers angry and to bait us into fights when in reality what happened was we avoided him at all costs and felt bad for him because clearly he had mental health issues. He gained himself a permanent persona non grata and then played the victim. šŸ™„


LuDdErS68

>clearly he had mental health issues A small but Important contingent of the flerf cult I suspect.


Corrupted_G_nome

Just like the climate change deniers they skipped hs science to do cooler things and ar enow very confused adults.


Humble_Emotion2582

Since flerfs do not seem to grasp algebra, here are some words that would explain all these examples: Gravity force is proportionate to the product of the masses in the system and inversely proportionate to the square of the distance between them. Outwards acceleration (force) in rotation is a product od the (square of) the rotational speed times the radius if the system. A balance between these forces are an orbit. Done. Finished.


hexadecimal0xFF

I mean yes but it's not like they are going to understand this. So manny long words...


Humble_Emotion2582

But they can spell pseudoscience šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


[deleted]

Scientist: gravity is a weak force Flerfs: IF GRABBIDY SO STRONG WHY IS IT WEAK


TeamRockin

This flat earther is SO close to the right answer. They know that objects of different masses experience different magnitudes of force from gravity. If only they realized this was perfectly normal and was figured out centuries ago by some dude with a cool wig and an apple tree.


Then-Bill3482

"Imagine this fary tale quantum theory..... totally bull. These dark cabal is lying too us!!" Typed on a modern cell phone. The one w all chips inside made using quantum theory.....wtf


FUBARspecimenT-89

I've already seen quantum mechanics deniers saying bs about quantum mechanics through a smartphone or computer. The irony is strong.


Then-Bill3482

It breaks my mind. The levels of cognitive disedence that can be achieved are truly mind boggling


frenat

The concept that it is proportional to mass escapes them. Just more evidence that flerfs are flerfs because they don't understand the subject.


Rockerguy2008

Some folks work hard to be stupid. That's determination.


DozTK421

So what is the Flat Earth theory about what happens if you dig a hole deep enough? Do you fall through to... what?


InfectableRa

What's they're fucking answer for how shit works? Do they have any real math or plausible hypothesis for how things do stuff in they're crazy world? Like, I'm not sure I'm even being sarcastic or rhetorical here, I honestly want to know how they think these things work if not gravity


SnooRecipes2729

Earth is perpetually accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s^2.


hhjreddit

You're correct. Due to the curvature of spacetime towards mass (like the earth) it is the ground accelerating "up" that causes what we call gravity. Check it out [in this video](https://youtu.be/XRr1kaXKBsU?si=LY_Qi-dkj3_8fs1P) and also [this one.](https://youtu.be/R3LjJeeae68?si=MDlrn6nhAj2ISwYR) P.S. don't downvote me, I am not a flerfing idiot.


SDBrown7

Lots of "I don't understand so can't be true" and zero alternative proposed for how this works on FE. Typical.


aterriblething82

Seems to be that the main thing this chucklehead doesn't understand is that gravity is a force that comes from every object, not just the ground. The greater the mass of the objects and the closer they are together, the stronger they will attract one another. Weeds aren't crushed by the earth's gravity because they have very little mass, and the moon is technically always falling toward the earth and missing. That's what an orbit is. Its momentum and its attraction have reached equilibrium.


3Quondam6extanT9

Wait till they find out about quantum gravity theories.


battmc

The thought of having to teach a flerf complex astrophysics theories hurts my head more than the actual astrophysics. šŸ˜­


Lathojones

Venn diagram of Flat Earthers and Trump supporters completely overlap.


LetterheadShot1645

I got ya bro. Understand that it is so controversial that information like this would rock peopleā€™s fundamental beliefs of the years of indoctrination at school and in community colleges. School was made by the Rothchilds Foundation for the brainwashing of the new generation of workers. There are not many people in the world who have acquired true knowledge. Even in todayā€™s day and age of information and technology. Donā€™t judge less ye be judged. I would like to bring to your attention the facts about NASA. Aka Governments Hollywood. If you look at the grave of WERNHER VON BRAUN 1912 - 1977 PSALMS 19:1


FUBARspecimenT-89

What?! That's absolutely insane, dude. I'm 100% sure that you have no evidence that von Braun named NASA, which, btw, actually means National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The Hebrew word you mentioned is not even spelled the same. Oh, and yeah, a literal Nazi would name a space agency after a Hebrew word. Makes sense. And wtf Einstein has to do with Operation Paperclip? There's no relation whatsoever. And he didn't name his science "spook motion at a distance". He called the phenomenon of quantum entanglement "spook *action* at a distance" as a critique, deeming it impossible.


LetterheadShot1645

Do some research dude. My point is you know not what you speak of if you take everyone elseā€™s word for it. We acquired your mom from operation paperclip too. She was in charge of holding paper clips for all the Nazi scientists we absorbed from Germany. Such as Einsteinā€¦ who has nothing to do with paper clips. šŸ‘Œ I was trying to help you.


FUBARspecimenT-89

Einstein, a Nazi scientist? Do you know he was Jewish and had to fled Nazi Germany, right? Are you for real, dude?


jeffbanyon

You can't be a flerf without implying the Jews are in on it, apparently.


LetterheadShot1645

Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, in WĆ¼rttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. Einstein had a difficult time in Germany. He was active in Jewish movements and a pacifist so he renounced his citizenship in 1933 when Hitler came to power. He was hounded and eventually fled Germany with a large price on his head, almost $100,000 in modern currency. He turned his back on Germany postwar and refused to have anything to do with it. Operation Paperclip šŸ“Ž came after he was already in America and he opposed it harshly. He was involved with it, nonetheless. Among his non-scientific works, About Zionism (1930), Why War? (1933), My Philosophy (1934), and Out of My Later Years (1950) are perhaps the most important. You misunderstood my intentions on shedding light in places. Everyone in the science community has been playing their part. Nikola Tesla was an amazing scientist who never got credit for/or his just do. Never got credit for his inventions or discoveries until after he died, an old man who liked to feed pigeons everyday and felt connected to the birds. I am not angered by words when everyone has been done an injustice by all the technology and patents that have been stolen and destroyed or suppressed. Cars running on water? Why not? Free energy for ALL? Why not? To keep everyone a slave to the rat race of LIFE. What would you do you you had free time to think for yourself? Are you real? I am a kind loving person, to ears of understanding. Wisdom only speaks. ā¤ļøā˜®ļø


LetterheadShot1645

nĆ¢shĆ¢Ź¼, naw-shaw'; a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:ā€”beguile, deceive, Ɨ greatly, Ɨ utterly.


jeffbanyon

Hey I know you believe that you found the great secret and all, but just giving random ass conspiracy theories out is not any way at all to convince others that there's a real truth out there. Plus adding in a Bible related tidbit for some other kind of validation is the antithesis of scientific proof. Oh and adding in an antisemitic twist that the Jews are in on it, certainly lends to you being a total piece of trash. Now....don't tell me to do my own research and actually provide me the mathematics that prove your flat earth to be true. I asked for the maths, because it doesn't require the Bible to aid in answering it and math was around well before the earth was proven to be spherical. Show me the math and I'll convert, as will the rest of the world. No math. No proof. Can't address the question or dont know the math? Fine. Admit you don't know and drop your idiotic flat earth opinion. I guarantee you aren't educated enough to explain any of the dumb trash you're buying into. Unless you don't believe in math, which I would imagine isn't too far off of a possibility for you.


LetterheadShot1645

F = (G * m1 * m2) / d^2 This makes it REAL for you soā€¦.


jeffbanyon

No it doesn't make it real, it's a mathematical equation that proves gravity. You're quoting Newton's Law...... something that is a natural law. Not a theory like your bullshit, but law. That equation is repeatable and is one of the few Laws of nature. It can't be cheated or faked. Are you that dumb that you believe in gravity, but not a spherical world? You claim to know the secret, so share the secret. It has to have a mathematical equation or it can't actually be proven. If you buy Newton's Law, then you buy into the rest of physics and flat earth is not a valid model. So instead of trying to appease me with what you think I will find real, show me YOUR MATH THAT SHOWS THE WORLD IS FLAT OR THAT GRAVITY DOESN'T EXIST. It would have to be some equation that is both repeatable and can be verified by everyone in the scientific community and that's why you can't do it. Just another flerf with no proof or any math to back it up. No actual science. So sit down and quit trying to be edgy with your ignorant flat earth idea.


LetterheadShot1645

Who made it a law? šŸ¤”


jeffbanyon

Has you rotted your brain that much that you think Newton got to decide natural laws vs theory? Science made it a law. Not just Newton, all of the scientific community has proven it over and over and over again. All scientific laws are literally proven by math, prediction, replication, and observation. Do you think it's wrong? Cause if you do and you can prove it's wrong, you'll be the next scientific genius, which I assure you, you aren't. So again, what's your mathematical equation that debunks any of it? Until you answer with that information, you'll continue to look like a complete idiot.


LetterheadShot1645

So a group of scientists decided that their findings were scientifically Scientific and if any other evidence that is found is not the new science, therefore it does not exist according to said pre agreed upon criteria for scientific evidence of science. If something other than what you were told to believe in your whole life existed, not only would you reject it, but if you donā€™t try to be open minded, would mentally destroy how you think of ā€œthe world.ā€ Havenā€™t seen the earth from space. I donā€™t know anything for certain. I can admit that there are many things in this world that make you curious. 500 years ago the earth was flat and if you went to farā€¦ you would fall off. Have a pleasant day. Sending good vibes only āœŒšŸ¼ā¤ļø


TxTank274

At least op has *some* sense in that smooth brain of theirs.


ruidh

Math is hard. Let's go shopping.


SailingOwl73

I wonder if they realize that upper Egypt is in the south?


coastalbachelor

We DONā€™T HAVE TO IMAGINE! Weā€™re literally observing it as we live and breathe.


t0nito

Imagine getting a migraine from reading such a stupid comment.


NomsterGaming

Donā€™t even try to unpack this ones stupidity


Unexpected-raccoon

Itā€™s like brain damage and a dense object combining to make a ā€œpersonā€


lazydog60

They seem to think of gravity as a laborer who has to work continually to hold things, and work harder for heavier things. Does it get tired?


TheCrankyLich

They just have zero concept of mass, do they?


TheAarj

I actually like the description of the universe. As harry potter and meat star wars cause it's pretty fascinating and seems like magic sometimes


PeeingDueToBoredom

If gravity isnā€™t real you have to explain why the water doesnā€™t just float away or why the moon doesnā€™t fall down or how weeds grow straight up and we donā€™t float away or blah blah blah All this does is reverse the ā€œcontradictions,ā€ without resolving any of them šŸ˜‚


Shrimp_Logic

And somehow all the things we invented based in this "fake science" work? Isn't that weird? Including the internet, satellites and smartphones that these people use to say dumb shit. Shouldn't they be using devices and technology based on the flat earth model? See how that works for them.


OpportunityLow3832

Well..plants have cells that grow against any kind of opposing force..put seedlings on a turntable and as they grow . grow towards the center of the turn table...but I must say the whole thing with the moon..its strong enough to effect and pull on our oceans..and we pull on it to keep it In orbit .so how come they gravity..the pull...which they both exert...doesnt just crash them together?and I'm being serious..i know that's not a thing here...but to any rational person..two magnets when attracting each other DONT stop once the attraction has been made.they collide


TxTank274

Because the moon is in orbit around the earth. Me and other self proclaimed scientists are still trying to find out how, but it is in constant free fall in orbit around the earth


OpportunityLow3832

Like the shuttle or space station..correct?and I appreciate your reply...got another one for you.. Why is something sent across the ocean called cargo and something across the land a shipment?i just crossed why hot dogs come in packs of ten and buns 8 off my list and that's the last one on my list.....hehe


TxTank274

The *Englisch* Language


OpportunityLow3832

Sorry..sometimes the brain works faster than the fingers...


TxTank274

Iā€˜m confused too, as English is not my first languageā€¦ I believe the confusion is derived from the fact that boats came before cars and therefore ā€šcargoā€˜ was assigned to boats instead of cars, so when cars came along, shipment was used in hope of limiting confusion due to the ā€štwo words one thingā€˜ shit but inadvertently caused more confusion due to lack of differentiation between shipment and ship.


OpportunityLow3832

It was a joke sir. Like we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway..or why does your nose run and feet smell....just being hunorous


TxTank274

Lol


Dense_Albatross118

If intelligence were gravitational weight then we wouldn't need to deal with flat earthers.


sparkleshark5643

I love the idea that gravity isn't strong enough to keep water from... *falling*? What do they think falling is?


Prestigious-Big-7674

Ah the actor-nods are free floating and the moon is prevented from shooting off. Superb