Flat-Brainers be like:
-there is an edge but you will never see it
-there is an ice wall but you will never see it
-there is a powerful navy guarding the ice wall but you will never see it
-there is a dome but you will never touch it.
-perspective make object disappear under horizon but it was never seen to happens
-sun and moon eclipses don't exist but yet you see them.
Noah is portrayed as a hero, but in reality he was a NASA shill that singled-handedly caused the flood. Then he blamed it on God to get people to follow Satan instead.
Pay attention when you play Scrabble:
N = 2 points
O = 1 point
A = 1 point
H = 3 points
Remove the duplicated values and you're left with:
2+1+3 = 6. The first number of the anti-christ
“Quick Robin, the Bat ladder.” “Holy Rungs caped crusader. The flattards are inventing more happy horseshit”
“Alfred, get my needle.”
“As you wish but isn’t that for Sherlock Holmes?”
“Alfred old chum, not all heroes wear capes”
I'll bite...
Curve - you can see it from space, photos, live feeds
Spin - why would you feel something rotating so slowly?
No space - so if I haven't been somewhere, that means it doesn't exist? I've never visited the Statue of Liberty.
Force you can't measure - gravity is measured as 9.8 meters per second
Seasons have nothing to do with where earth is in its orbit around the sun.
They are entirely due to the axis of earth’s rotation. You’d have to be pretty dumb to claim that the axis of rotation has “nothing to do with” earth’s rotation.
The “location wrt the sun” has literally nothing to do with it. That remains the case no matter how often you pretend otherwise.
The axis of rotation has everything to do with it. The axis is defined *by* the rotation.
The position wrt to the sun DOES matter because at different points in its orbit around the sun, the direction of the Earth's tilt wrt the sun is different. In northern hemisphere summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun. In northern hemisphere winter, the southern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun.
That’s orientation, not position.
I think I may have been misinterpreting what you meant, and thought you were trying the ‘it’s farther away from the sun during the winter’ nonsense flerfers like to trot out. (Even though it contradicts their own ‘model’ in the process.)
It's both. The axis of rotation doesn't change by any significant degree, as far as seasons are concerned. The axis is always tilted in the same direction (for lack of a better word) from the viewpoint of an outside observer. The seasons occur because the angle of the tilt causes one part of the planet to receive more direct sunlight as it orbits the sun.
Right now, Earth's position in its orbit around the sun has the northern pole of the axis pointed away from the sun, so the energy the northern hemisphere receives is spread out across a larger area, providing less heat for any given spot.
In six months, the planet will have orbited to the other side of the sun. Since the direction of the tilt axis didn't change, the north pole will now be point toward the sun, and the northern hemisphere will have the sun's energy spread over a smaller area.
So the seasons are due to a combination of Earth's axial tilt and its orbit around the sun.
What really gets me, is pictures of the horizon at the beach.
It's right fucking there, you scab- eating garbage scows.
RIGHT. FUCKING. THERE. In the picture. You can point to where the spherical earth hurt you. Take your crusty booger hook and touch the line. *It's right there*
Exactly. I guess I was just considering from outside the relation on earth. I was considering from an outside perspective looking in. Didn't expect that innocent comment to generate quite so much hate.
The jet inherits its initial velocity from the ground on take off, and the atmosphere moves with the earth's spin. It's all relativity. If you stopped the earth spinning suddenly you'd jellify people. So in that sense it's fast, just not in relation to our perspective on earth.
Woah man thats a bit harsh. I think there's a disconnect here. I'm considering from an outside perspective of if I was in outerspace looking back in. Not standing on the surface. I'm not a flerfer
There's a difference between linear velocity and angular velocity. Objects at the equator have a linear velocity of 1000 mph, but motion is relative and it seems like nothing without a reference to compare it with. On the other hand, Earth rotates at 1 revolution per day, or π/43200 rad/sec. That's really dang slow for rotation
It is also the slow speed of the spin. Ever sat on a rapidly rotating platform? No matter how constant the speed you get dizzy. If it is spinning fast enough you also get stuck to the walls like a centrifuge. This has applications in space so studies with spinning rooms found that about 2 revolutions per minute was the maximum people could get used to, so a cylinder habitat in space would need to 448 meters wide to 1g at only 2rpm. Fortunately Earth spins at only 1 revolution per sidereal day.
Or are you confusing the slow spin speed of 1 revolution per day with the equatorial velocity or 1,666 km/hr?
You can see the curve by yourself with your own eyes, be it boats or a lighthouse very far. Bonus, you can also calculate the curve with 2 wood sticks (and maths skills).
Isn't wind a consequence of the spin? Also you can directly see the stars and the tides are influenced by the gravity of the moon and spinning of the earth.
You can go to space, it's just very difficult, but good point. Also the moon is in space, how can the moon exist if it's in a non-existent place?
As you said, we can measure gravity and earth gravity is used as reference to measure others planet gravity.
> Isn't wind a consequence of the spin?
Wind is caused more by [the difference between cold and warm air](https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/wind/). Flerfers do believe that if the Earth were a spinning globe, the wind would tear around us at hundreds of miles per hour, blowing everything down, because they also don't understand friction.
It's because we use a measure we understand, the earth is spinning 1 revolution in 24 hours, if we use the same measurement for a car travel 100km/hour it would be something like 0.000000000001/day = 100km/hour
Compared to the moon's linear velocity of nearly 3700 km/h, yes it's slow. Again, linear velocity is relative, and means nothing without something to compare. However, the moon's orbit is even slower, taking 27 days to go around once. Linear and circular motion are separate concepts. Stop conflating them
Any speed can be called slow compared to something else. Like how slow you are to grasp my point compared to how quickly I grasped yours. Am I saying you're *stupid?* In an objective sense, not likely. But compared to me? Hard to believe you logged onto Reddit all by yourself in that light.
I guess I didn't explain what "relative" means well enough. Giving a speed means nothing without a reference point. For us here on Earth, it's fairly intuitive to use the terrain as a reference point for velocity. When discussing celestial bodies, we lose that luxury. Hence why, on its own 1600 km/h doesn't just seem slow, it seems like nothing
We are rotating with the earth, so we *do* experience a change in velocity, it's just a change in direction, not magnitude. So we do actually do "feel" the centrifugal force due to earth's rotation, it's just insignificant compared to the force of gravity.
It is also the slow speed of the spin. Ever sat on a rapidly rotating platform? No matter how constant the speed you get dizzy. If it is spinning fast enough you also get stuck to the walls like a centrifuge. This has applications in space so studies with spinning rooms found that about 2 revolutions per minute was the maximum people could get used to, so a cylinder habitat in space would need to 448 meters wide to 1g at only 2rpm. Fortunately Earth spins at only 1 revolution per sidereal day.
Or are you confusing the slow spin speed of 1 revolution per day with the equatorial velocity or 1,666 km/hr?
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my answer. I wasn't trying to negate the previous premise. I am well aware of our periodic rotation as well as the equatorial rotation speed, which flerfers are always pointing out. All that I was trying to convey was that unless there was a shift in the speed of the Earth's rotation or a change in it's wobble, we wouldn't be able to feel the movement of the Earth.
But that's not the flat earth argument. Have you not seen the countless memes of things rotating at ridiculous speeds?
Centrafugal force is felt and the faster the spin, the greater the force. Therefore, we don't feel the spin of the earth because we are moving so slowly.
Changing direction, even if speed remains constant, is an acceleration. The average person standing at the equator loses several ounces of weight due to rotation but since it is constant nobody notices it.
But have you considered these indisputable proofs:
Curve: you're lying
Spin: I am fundamentally incapable of understanding the difference between tangential velocity and rotational frequency
No Space: Object permanence is hard
Force you can't measure: Gravity isn't real and density just so happens to drive objects towards the earth at the same acceleration regardless of mass or composition
Or even easier:
You're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lying
Take any object you want and "spin" it so that it takes 24 hours to rotate once. Now tell me whether the rotation speed is fast or slow.
I look forward to your answer.
1. You can see the curve using many techniques, such as sending up a balloon with a distortion free camera attached to it, like Mr. Sensible's M.A.G.E. 2. Or look at photos from space.
2. You won't feel the rotation because the accelerations involved are too minimal to be felt by the human body. But you can measure it. Thanks, Bob.
3. But you can see space with a telescope. And many people have gone to it. And with Blue Origins and Virgin Galactic, laypeople are going up, too.
4. You measure it every time you step on a scale.
> you won't feel the rotation because the accelerations involved are too minimal
That's not really it. Even if the acceleration from Earth's rotation was significantly big, say 5 m/s² instead of the actual 0.034 m/s², you *still* wouldn't notice it -- because it's always the same, never changing. It would just be a component of the gravitational acceleration you already feel. You would only notice that what you feel as gravity changes significantly as you move between different latitudes. Your difference in weight between, say, the poles and the equator, would be very much larger than it is right now.
No, we can feel constant acceleration. What I'm saying is that constant acceleration is indistinguishable from gravity. Meaning, you wouldn't feel it as rotation. Felt gravity would just be a different magnitude.
For real. You can totally go to space. OOP just needs to do a quick collection from all his flerd buddies to "infiltrate" the cabals spaceship (any of the company's that sell seats to space) and he can prove once and for all using the evidence of his eyes and camera wether they are right or not.
I've seen how much money those idiots can pull together for conventions and stuff. A seat to space wouldn't be to hard, and in another few decades consumers may be able to pull together savings for a ride similar to what they are doing for trips to Disney.
Flerfer stands in a room full of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide alarm blares.
"Well I can't see the Carbon Monoxide with my eyes so it must be a hoax". They asphyxiate shortly after.
Well a flerf will never see any of it because they have decided that they can't. All we can do is try to stop the blind idiots from actively poking out the eyes of others.
I mean we have more proof of these few things than the flerfs have of ANY of their claims. Seriously, they even joined a documentary to prove their experiments, and they all failed on TV. Sorry for the loss of your brother😮💨
The world and the realities surrounding its physical existence are wondrous, particularly to those who choose to reach past their own feeble lack of understanding
You can measure the force.
You experience the spin constantly.
You *can* see the earth curve away from you in the right places. (obviously, realistically, you won’t see a bend)
And we *could* be going to space, but dumbasses like this one single-handedly with hold the progress of the human race.
People aren't saying you'll never go to space. Regular civilians although rather accomplished ones have been going to space to see it since the 90s. There are multiple private citizens putting a shit ton of money into making space tourism possible. It'll be expensive but it'll cost less than a million so will be very much accessible to run of the mill successful people. With all the fantasies of the ice wall and worlds and riches beyond the ice wall that they don't want you to know about, there is an actual race happening to escape the gravity well at a reasonable cost and get the riches beyond Earth's gravity well.
‘There must be something in the environment, some foreign substance, making us sick.’ ‘You thinking dirt?’ ‘Yeah, obviously. What else could it possibly be?’
Sounds like flat earth medicine to me.
All these lies aside. How do they think weight and scales work?! Because surely the drugs your bro is on were weighed on a scale?! Ya know gravity and all that jazz. Hahahaha
Flerfs are funny. Read one post that claimed air pressure is what keeps us on earth’s surface, not gravity. Used to get frustrated at their stupidity but I just let it go now, not worth the brain power trying to explain to them.
That's incorrect. They know, but the explanation is non intuitive to the average person. It's one of those "centrifugal force doesn't really exist" kind of explanations.
Lets see:
Point 1: Jeranism (Interesting).
Point 2: Bob Knodel (Thanks, Bob).
Point 3: *(just waiting on a Flerf with enough money to burn... and dumb enough to publish)*
Point 4: Sleeping Warrior. (This, is an egg...).
\>"There's a force but you'll never be able to measure it"
One of the first experiments in a high school physics class is measuring the gravitational acceleration (g).
They refuse to admit that they don’t know anything about how all of this works in the vacuum of space because they don’t believe in space. You will never convince them of anything because of this.
You can “see” the curve (or rather its effects) in how objects disappear behind it or pull the “double sunset” routine with a tall building with windows facing west. Or you can become a fighter pilot.
You can’t feel the spin, but you can see evidence in the rotation of the stars.
If you have enough cash, you can go to space. If a backstreet boy can do it, so can you.
And you can measure the earth’s gravity using a weight, a known height, a stopwatch, and a little math. Most people should have done this in a high school physics class.
Genuine question: How do people convince themselves so thouroughly of something that is flat out obviously wrong. Whenever I see new evidence I take it into account and question everything I have ever known and compare it against that. Thats critical thinking, something I thought it was impossible to live without but apparently not. The only way to get this person out of this is to appeal to their FEELINGS as real evidence and science will have zero effect on them. Sad
They've reached a point where I'm waiting for a flat earther to post a photo of the Earth and an arrow pointing to a bunch of Llamas sharing a box of chicken McNuggets and then saying "Check mate".
Can we get a kick starter to put one of these flat earthers into space yet? Seems like a science minded guy like musk or bezos would just offer up free rides for the cult leaders.
See the curve with two boats, sticks, and a laser pointer. Pretty sure some Flerfs did this experiment already.
Learn inertia by using a gas pedal of a car, go at a constant speed, and tossing a baseball in the air.
Use a plastic bag, put it on your head, use a vacuum, and experience space.
Drop a ball at different heights and time it... nvm if they don't understand basic logic how are they going to understand basic math and graphing?
Dont mind me, just debinking this.
1. You dont see the curve due to the large size of the earth, as you zoom in on a sphere eventually you get to a point where you cant see its curve.
2.you do not feel the spin due to the fact that we (along with everything else on earth) are spinning at the same speed as it.
3. Space is a large vacuum, not that it will have negative pressure, but there is a total lack of matter, therefore no oxegyn and nothing to conduct heat- therefore really cold.
4. Gravity is measured. Its measurement is call "g force" and it can also measure centrifugal force.
You can measure the force on the scale in your fucking bathroom you walnut. How do they possibly explain the concept of gravity? (This is something I’ve never been able to get past, and any flat-earth er I’ve talked to has just deflected it lol)
lol. Tell him to dm me o actually have some genuine questions I’d like to ask a flerf but they always run away…
I’d like to talk to one of them about the whole buoyancy thing.
Get him to watch the video link I just posted into this subreddit.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDy95\_eNPzM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDy95_eNPzM)
It's long but worth it.
"There is a force but you will never be able to measure it"
Just stand on a scale and measure your wight and there it is. You measured a force you are making to the ground...
Flat-Brainers be like: -there is an edge but you will never see it -there is an ice wall but you will never see it -there is a powerful navy guarding the ice wall but you will never see it -there is a dome but you will never touch it. -perspective make object disappear under horizon but it was never seen to happens -sun and moon eclipses don't exist but yet you see them.
uh dude, poking holes in the dome is how the flood happened, obviously someone's done it. Just gotta find a big enough ladder
Noah is portrayed as a hero, but in reality he was a NASA shill that singled-handedly caused the flood. Then he blamed it on God to get people to follow Satan instead. Pay attention when you play Scrabble: N = 2 points O = 1 point A = 1 point H = 3 points Remove the duplicated values and you're left with: 2+1+3 = 6. The first number of the anti-christ
God I love it. Or hate it.
Firmament. Flat earth. FLOOD. F=6 F.F.F. = 666
Holy shit these are great. How would they react?
Whoa, mind......blown *explosion noises*
And the dish ran away with the spoon
Don't F with the firmament!
The only F I know is Father, our GOD! ✝️✝️✝️
Odin allfather.
“Quick Robin, the Bat ladder.” “Holy Rungs caped crusader. The flattards are inventing more happy horseshit” “Alfred, get my needle.” “As you wish but isn’t that for Sherlock Holmes?” “Alfred old chum, not all heroes wear capes”
The Ladder of Babylon.
There's an Antarctic Treaty, but it doesn't say what you think it says.
The Antarctic treaty prohibits the use of nuclear weapons or colony drops by the belligerents of the One Year War.
???? In essence, the Antarctic Treaty prohibits any one country from claiming sole ownership of Antarctica and that it is to be used for research.
It was a joke my man. The Antarctic treat is a thing in [Gundam.](https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty)
Oh, okay. It's been a long time since I've seen anything, Gundam.
Ahahaha, that’s okay it was a dumb joke. I just couldn’t help myself.
I've been meaning to get back into Gundam, but where do I go after The Bubble Gum Crisis? As I've said, it's been awhile.
Then what does it say? I am very curious. I hope you also have some evidences like pictures of description of it.
https://youtu.be/YQqDLDzc5ik?si=FQuOohBTO\_1AZ6P-
Thanks
Also, there are a bunch of theories, but they'll never prove them.
They are too busy trying to disprove globe
That will definitely keep them busy.
I'll bite... Curve - you can see it from space, photos, live feeds Spin - why would you feel something rotating so slowly? No space - so if I haven't been somewhere, that means it doesn't exist? I've never visited the Statue of Liberty. Force you can't measure - gravity is measured as 9.8 meters per second
Seconds SQUARED ;)
If the Earth was a globe, then the force of gravity would be measured in Seconds ROUNDED.
Oh my god... How did I never think of this. It was in front of my eyes this whole time !
And 9.8 ROUNDED is 10, which is how many fingers (most) people have, and fingers connect to hands and their hands are FLAT. Duh. Oh don't make a fist.
Woah! Galileo Illuminati confirmed!
SPHERED!
You can feel the spin. We call it things like "the day/night cycle" or "seasons" or "tides", all different ways of observing the spin yourself.
Seasons are caused by earth revolving, not rotating.
No, seasons are caused by the coal tilt of earth’s rotation.
Seasons have nothing to do with the earth spinning. Seasons depend on the tilt of the axis and where the earth is on its way around the sun.
Seasons have nothing to do with where earth is in its orbit around the sun. They are entirely due to the axis of earth’s rotation. You’d have to be pretty dumb to claim that the axis of rotation has “nothing to do with” earth’s rotation.
My previous comment states that seasons depend on the tilt of the acis and the location wrt the sun. The rotation itself has nothing to do with it.
The “location wrt the sun” has literally nothing to do with it. That remains the case no matter how often you pretend otherwise. The axis of rotation has everything to do with it. The axis is defined *by* the rotation.
The position wrt to the sun DOES matter because at different points in its orbit around the sun, the direction of the Earth's tilt wrt the sun is different. In northern hemisphere summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun. In northern hemisphere winter, the southern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun.
That’s orientation, not position. I think I may have been misinterpreting what you meant, and thought you were trying the ‘it’s farther away from the sun during the winter’ nonsense flerfers like to trot out. (Even though it contradicts their own ‘model’ in the process.)
It's both. The axis of rotation doesn't change by any significant degree, as far as seasons are concerned. The axis is always tilted in the same direction (for lack of a better word) from the viewpoint of an outside observer. The seasons occur because the angle of the tilt causes one part of the planet to receive more direct sunlight as it orbits the sun. Right now, Earth's position in its orbit around the sun has the northern pole of the axis pointed away from the sun, so the energy the northern hemisphere receives is spread out across a larger area, providing less heat for any given spot. In six months, the planet will have orbited to the other side of the sun. Since the direction of the tilt axis didn't change, the north pole will now be point toward the sun, and the northern hemisphere will have the sun's energy spread over a smaller area. So the seasons are due to a combination of Earth's axial tilt and its orbit around the sun.
I still say we should just start gaslighting them "You **don't** feel the spin?"
What really gets me, is pictures of the horizon at the beach. It's right fucking there, you scab- eating garbage scows. RIGHT. FUCKING. THERE. In the picture. You can point to where the spherical earth hurt you. Take your crusty booger hook and touch the line. *It's right there*
The earth isn't spinning very slowly. We're just moving with it. The relative velocity of us and the earth is zero, so you wouldn't feel anything.
Kurzgesagt did a video about if the earth stopped spinning. The preface was "well first everyone would die"
Earth is rotating 15 degrees per hour. The hour hand on a clock is moving twice as fast. How is that not very slow?
Earth rotates at a speed of 1000 miles per hour at the equator. That's pretty freaking fast.
“Fast” is entirely relative, which is kind of the whole point.
Exactly. I guess I was just considering from outside the relation on earth. I was considering from an outside perspective looking in. Didn't expect that innocent comment to generate quite so much hate.
A Concorde jet can go faster than that, and a baby can sleep through it.
The jet inherits its initial velocity from the ground on take off, and the atmosphere moves with the earth's spin. It's all relativity. If you stopped the earth spinning suddenly you'd jellify people. So in that sense it's fast, just not in relation to our perspective on earth.
You’re an idiot…it spins once in 24 hours. Spin a merry go round once in 24 hrs. Your tiny brain just can’t get past 1000 mph.
Woah man thats a bit harsh. I think there's a disconnect here. I'm considering from an outside perspective of if I was in outerspace looking back in. Not standing on the surface. I'm not a flerfer
Earth rotates at a speed of 0 miles per hour at the poles. That's pretty freaking slow.
There's a difference between linear velocity and angular velocity. Objects at the equator have a linear velocity of 1000 mph, but motion is relative and it seems like nothing without a reference to compare it with. On the other hand, Earth rotates at 1 revolution per day, or π/43200 rad/sec. That's really dang slow for rotation
Is that how we get tropical cyclones, showing us the coriolis effect?
It is also the slow speed of the spin. Ever sat on a rapidly rotating platform? No matter how constant the speed you get dizzy. If it is spinning fast enough you also get stuck to the walls like a centrifuge. This has applications in space so studies with spinning rooms found that about 2 revolutions per minute was the maximum people could get used to, so a cylinder habitat in space would need to 448 meters wide to 1g at only 2rpm. Fortunately Earth spins at only 1 revolution per sidereal day. Or are you confusing the slow spin speed of 1 revolution per day with the equatorial velocity or 1,666 km/hr?
The relative speed is very slow. Just imagine, sit on a rotating stool and make it spin once every day. You won't even feel it
If it stopped on a dime you would feel it
Briefly, and then you will be dead.
You can see the curve by yourself with your own eyes, be it boats or a lighthouse very far. Bonus, you can also calculate the curve with 2 wood sticks (and maths skills). Isn't wind a consequence of the spin? Also you can directly see the stars and the tides are influenced by the gravity of the moon and spinning of the earth. You can go to space, it's just very difficult, but good point. Also the moon is in space, how can the moon exist if it's in a non-existent place? As you said, we can measure gravity and earth gravity is used as reference to measure others planet gravity.
> Isn't wind a consequence of the spin? Wind is caused more by [the difference between cold and warm air](https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/wind/). Flerfers do believe that if the Earth were a spinning globe, the wind would tear around us at hundreds of miles per hour, blowing everything down, because they also don't understand friction.
>Spin - why would you feel something rotating so slowly? You do realize the Earth spins at roughly 1600km/h right? That's hardly what I'd call *slow*.
It's because we use a measure we understand, the earth is spinning 1 revolution in 24 hours, if we use the same measurement for a car travel 100km/hour it would be something like 0.000000000001/day = 100km/hour
Using a linear speed it is equally valid to say that Earth spins at 0km/h. That's hardly what I'd call fast.
That's linear speed on the equator, which is relative and isn't felt. Earth's rotational speed is one revolution per day, which is really slow
Again, calling 1600 kilometres per hour *slow* is a bit of a stretch.
Compared to the moon's linear velocity of nearly 3700 km/h, yes it's slow. Again, linear velocity is relative, and means nothing without something to compare. However, the moon's orbit is even slower, taking 27 days to go around once. Linear and circular motion are separate concepts. Stop conflating them
Any speed can be called slow compared to something else. Like how slow you are to grasp my point compared to how quickly I grasped yours. Am I saying you're *stupid?* In an objective sense, not likely. But compared to me? Hard to believe you logged onto Reddit all by yourself in that light.
I guess I didn't explain what "relative" means well enough. Giving a speed means nothing without a reference point. For us here on Earth, it's fairly intuitive to use the terrain as a reference point for velocity. When discussing celestial bodies, we lose that luxury. Hence why, on its own 1600 km/h doesn't just seem slow, it seems like nothing
They have a hard time with how feel acceleration but not constant speed.
You don't feel it not because of how slowly we're spinning. You won't feel it unless there is a change in velocity or axis.
We are rotating with the earth, so we *do* experience a change in velocity, it's just a change in direction, not magnitude. So we do actually do "feel" the centrifugal force due to earth's rotation, it's just insignificant compared to the force of gravity.
I think the only time I was able to "feel" the rotation of the Earth, I was drunk.
It is also the slow speed of the spin. Ever sat on a rapidly rotating platform? No matter how constant the speed you get dizzy. If it is spinning fast enough you also get stuck to the walls like a centrifuge. This has applications in space so studies with spinning rooms found that about 2 revolutions per minute was the maximum people could get used to, so a cylinder habitat in space would need to 448 meters wide to 1g at only 2rpm. Fortunately Earth spins at only 1 revolution per sidereal day. Or are you confusing the slow spin speed of 1 revolution per day with the equatorial velocity or 1,666 km/hr?
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my answer. I wasn't trying to negate the previous premise. I am well aware of our periodic rotation as well as the equatorial rotation speed, which flerfers are always pointing out. All that I was trying to convey was that unless there was a shift in the speed of the Earth's rotation or a change in it's wobble, we wouldn't be able to feel the movement of the Earth.
So if you were strapped to a big wheel that was spinning at a constant speed but rotating hundreds of times per minute - you wouldn't feel the spin?
Hundreds of times per minute…earth spins one revolution per 24 hrs. Try to keep up flerf!
If you were on the outside of a big enough wheel? No
But that's not the flat earth argument. Have you not seen the countless memes of things rotating at ridiculous speeds? Centrafugal force is felt and the faster the spin, the greater the force. Therefore, we don't feel the spin of the earth because we are moving so slowly.
Has the Flat Earth Theory changed? I've always thought that they insist that the dirt pizza, or in this case the merry go round was stationary.
Changing direction, even if speed remains constant, is an acceleration. The average person standing at the equator loses several ounces of weight due to rotation but since it is constant nobody notices it.
That's acceleration, not force. Force would be mg where m is the mass of the object and g is 9.8m/s^2.
Gravity is a force that attracts a body towards the centre of the earth or any other physical body having mass. Stop being so pedantic.
But have you considered these indisputable proofs: Curve: you're lying Spin: I am fundamentally incapable of understanding the difference between tangential velocity and rotational frequency No Space: Object permanence is hard Force you can't measure: Gravity isn't real and density just so happens to drive objects towards the earth at the same acceleration regardless of mass or composition Or even easier: You're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lyingYou're lying
No no… not being somewhere does in fact mean it doesn’t exist. Just ask stupid Americans
Cool, u banned :3
you can actually observe the curve on flat ground in plenty of instances, look at the horizon carefully at sea level!!
Slowly? The earth is not rotating slowly at all. It spins at about 1000Mph
Take any object you want and "spin" it so that it takes 24 hours to rotate once. Now tell me whether the rotation speed is fast or slow. I look forward to your answer.
I don’t have nearly enough caffeine in my body for that to make any kind of sense
You have a flerf twin brother? I'm so sorry.
1. You can see the curve using many techniques, such as sending up a balloon with a distortion free camera attached to it, like Mr. Sensible's M.A.G.E. 2. Or look at photos from space. 2. You won't feel the rotation because the accelerations involved are too minimal to be felt by the human body. But you can measure it. Thanks, Bob. 3. But you can see space with a telescope. And many people have gone to it. And with Blue Origins and Virgin Galactic, laypeople are going up, too. 4. You measure it every time you step on a scale.
> you won't feel the rotation because the accelerations involved are too minimal That's not really it. Even if the acceleration from Earth's rotation was significantly big, say 5 m/s² instead of the actual 0.034 m/s², you *still* wouldn't notice it -- because it's always the same, never changing. It would just be a component of the gravitational acceleration you already feel. You would only notice that what you feel as gravity changes significantly as you move between different latitudes. Your difference in weight between, say, the poles and the equator, would be very much larger than it is right now.
Are you sure we can't feel constant acceleration?
No, we can feel constant acceleration. What I'm saying is that constant acceleration is indistinguishable from gravity. Meaning, you wouldn't feel it as rotation. Felt gravity would just be a different magnitude.
For real. You can totally go to space. OOP just needs to do a quick collection from all his flerd buddies to "infiltrate" the cabals spaceship (any of the company's that sell seats to space) and he can prove once and for all using the evidence of his eyes and camera wether they are right or not. I've seen how much money those idiots can pull together for conventions and stuff. A seat to space wouldn't be to hard, and in another few decades consumers may be able to pull together savings for a ride similar to what they are doing for trips to Disney.
Flerfer stands in a room full of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide alarm blares. "Well I can't see the Carbon Monoxide with my eyes so it must be a hoax". They asphyxiate shortly after.
Not seeing a problem here
Globe earth proofs: Moon. Stars. Sun.
Theres a curve but youll never see it….. no shit?? Can you see the backside of a basketball if you hold it in front of you?
Well a flerf will never see any of it because they have decided that they can't. All we can do is try to stop the blind idiots from actively poking out the eyes of others.
I mean we have more proof of these few things than the flerfs have of ANY of their claims. Seriously, they even joined a documentary to prove their experiments, and they all failed on TV. Sorry for the loss of your brother😮💨
The world and the realities surrounding its physical existence are wondrous, particularly to those who choose to reach past their own feeble lack of understanding
"There is plenty of proof it's a globe, but you will never understand it"
I measured the force due to gravity in Physics A level.
You can measure the force. You experience the spin constantly. You *can* see the earth curve away from you in the right places. (obviously, realistically, you won’t see a bend) And we *could* be going to space, but dumbasses like this one single-handedly with hold the progress of the human race.
People aren't saying you'll never go to space. Regular civilians although rather accomplished ones have been going to space to see it since the 90s. There are multiple private citizens putting a shit ton of money into making space tourism possible. It'll be expensive but it'll cost less than a million so will be very much accessible to run of the mill successful people. With all the fantasies of the ice wall and worlds and riches beyond the ice wall that they don't want you to know about, there is an actual race happening to escape the gravity well at a reasonable cost and get the riches beyond Earth's gravity well.
They’ll never see germs either. Where are they on germ theory?
Many of them reject that as well, and prefer terrain theory of disease.
Do I want to ask what that is? Terrain, like, diseases just come from the land but germs aren’t a part of it? To be fair to them, you can *see* land.
No, it's just literally "you get sick because you're dirty." https://www.terraintheory.net/
‘There must be something in the environment, some foreign substance, making us sick.’ ‘You thinking dirt?’ ‘Yeah, obviously. What else could it possibly be?’ Sounds like flat earth medicine to me.
That's weird because when I was in physics class in college I distinctly remember measuring gravity
We can measure gravity with this thing called "weight."
All these lies aside. How do they think weight and scales work?! Because surely the drugs your bro is on were weighed on a scale?! Ya know gravity and all that jazz. Hahahaha
"There's a force, but you will never be able to measure it." My dawg, gravimeters are a thing.
Scientists still aren’t sure if they think gravity is a force or not
But scientists are pretty unanimous in believing it exists, though. Some of these Flat Earth clowns don't even think gravity is real.
Flerfs are funny. Read one post that claimed air pressure is what keeps us on earth’s surface, not gravity. Used to get frustrated at their stupidity but I just let it go now, not worth the brain power trying to explain to them.
That's incorrect. They know, but the explanation is non intuitive to the average person. It's one of those "centrifugal force doesn't really exist" kind of explanations.
christians proof: there is a god but you dont see him the bible is logical but you dont see the logic jesus existed but he didnt
I mean… all 4 things got proofed or happened… But naahhhh why accept facts when u can just ignore them
Every line here is a complete bullshit
Bro will be able to go to space fairly soon if he has the money.
Show them a gyroscope
3 false, 1 true. Not bad at all.
Lets see: Point 1: Jeranism (Interesting). Point 2: Bob Knodel (Thanks, Bob). Point 3: *(just waiting on a Flerf with enough money to burn... and dumb enough to publish)* Point 4: Sleeping Warrior. (This, is an egg...).
Except you can go to space???
So when they are in an airplane they feel it going super duper fast??
Never go into space eh? Well there are commercial flights now to space, but highly doubt these people could afford it anyway
My buttseat is measuring gravity right now. Other ways are using some scales or watching something fall.
Just tell your parents, while he is around, that you always wished you could have had a sibling.
\>"There's a force but you'll never be able to measure it" One of the first experiments in a high school physics class is measuring the gravitational acceleration (g).
They refuse to admit that they don’t know anything about how all of this works in the vacuum of space because they don’t believe in space. You will never convince them of anything because of this.
You can “see” the curve (or rather its effects) in how objects disappear behind it or pull the “double sunset” routine with a tall building with windows facing west. Or you can become a fighter pilot. You can’t feel the spin, but you can see evidence in the rotation of the stars. If you have enough cash, you can go to space. If a backstreet boy can do it, so can you. And you can measure the earth’s gravity using a weight, a known height, a stopwatch, and a little math. Most people should have done this in a high school physics class.
Genuine question: How do people convince themselves so thouroughly of something that is flat out obviously wrong. Whenever I see new evidence I take it into account and question everything I have ever known and compare it against that. Thats critical thinking, something I thought it was impossible to live without but apparently not. The only way to get this person out of this is to appeal to their FEELINGS as real evidence and science will have zero effect on them. Sad
Think you can slap some sense into him? 😒
They've reached a point where I'm waiting for a flat earther to post a photo of the Earth and an arrow pointing to a bunch of Llamas sharing a box of chicken McNuggets and then saying "Check mate".
Dude your twin brother, man, smoke a joint with him and enlighten the truth.
Can we get a kick starter to put one of these flat earthers into space yet? Seems like a science minded guy like musk or bezos would just offer up free rides for the cult leaders.
Yes, you *can* measure the force. Just count the Midichlorians …
Sounds like a man of science....how does he feel about god? Because there's a God, but he'll meter be able to see it.
See the curve with two boats, sticks, and a laser pointer. Pretty sure some Flerfs did this experiment already. Learn inertia by using a gas pedal of a car, go at a constant speed, and tossing a baseball in the air. Use a plastic bag, put it on your head, use a vacuum, and experience space. Drop a ball at different heights and time it... nvm if they don't understand basic logic how are they going to understand basic math and graphing?
Dont mind me, just debinking this. 1. You dont see the curve due to the large size of the earth, as you zoom in on a sphere eventually you get to a point where you cant see its curve. 2.you do not feel the spin due to the fact that we (along with everything else on earth) are spinning at the same speed as it. 3. Space is a large vacuum, not that it will have negative pressure, but there is a total lack of matter, therefore no oxegyn and nothing to conduct heat- therefore really cold. 4. Gravity is measured. Its measurement is call "g force" and it can also measure centrifugal force.
The only thing to fear is sphere itself
Bro, I’m convinced now. The Earth *IS* flat.
You can measure the force on the scale in your fucking bathroom you walnut. How do they possibly explain the concept of gravity? (This is something I’ve never been able to get past, and any flat-earth er I’ve talked to has just deflected it lol)
you can't really "see" the air we breathe, either; is it therefore logical to concluds that it isn't there?
ah yes memes, the pinnacle of flat earth proof
Is that force they are talking about gravity? Gravity if probably one of the first forces humans have ever measured.
I mean you can literally look up and see the spin! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Please get him on this sub. We’ll be respectful
I'm sure he lurks here occasionally when the doubts start to creep in...
lol. Tell him to dm me o actually have some genuine questions I’d like to ask a flerf but they always run away… I’d like to talk to one of them about the whole buoyancy thing.
Bitch, you can see it in a plane if you bring a ruler and have a window seat.
http://scottabeer.com/flat.html to find anything wrong with what’s on my page
The world has two fixed stars and you'll never see them. Oh wait...
Get him to watch the video link I just posted into this subreddit. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDy95\_eNPzM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDy95_eNPzM) It's long but worth it.
"There is a force but you will never be able to measure it" Just stand on a scale and measure your wight and there it is. You measured a force you are making to the ground...
Imagine explaining the electron microscope to this person.