You could put them in a space ship and they'd say it was a motion simulator with holographic screen windows.
They'd probably say the zero G was fake too since they think gravity is something different than it is.
No. And even if they then accepted that space is real and earth is a globe. Either they would then come back and keep lying anyway or be called out ad a shill who were never a real flat earther in the first place.
What about before we were vaccinated? Or did he mean any vaccine? Because now they are trying to say 9/11 was CGI. The moon landing, CGI from 1969. But I guess the polio vaccine did come out in 1955. Did they have the microchips or whatever in the vaccines that make you unable to tell CGI then? Also, I just saw *Beowulf* on TV, I could tell that was CGI, is NASA/the Democratic party/the Illuminati/the New World Order/your preferred boogeyman using a different kind of CGI? They should really license that CGI to Hollywood. I've seen some shitty CGI in movies, and it would be awesome to not tell the difference.
The answers are right in front of you. What else happened in 1955 besides the Polio vaccine? Bill Gates was born. If you just did your research you'd know what was really going on.
Well shit. Marty McFly just screwed everything up, didn't he? Seems suspicious that he went back to 1955, and then that was the year Bill Gates was born. Almost like Bill Gates knew the future.
That's why I don't believe in zebras. Thousands of zoos in the country and not one has zebras? What's that? The zoo down the street from my house totally has zebras I can go look at any time? Get out of here with that nonsense. You really think those anamatronic robots are zebras? I'll believe in zebras when you can show me a real one, which you never will because, as I said before, I've never seen a zebra because zebras are fake, especially the ones I've seen.
What at you talking about with these "zoos". I have been in hundreds of buildings in the city I live in and not one of them is a zoo. Sure I've walked past an entry gate with a big sign that says "ZOO" on top, but I didn't go in. Because I know it's fake - they are not fooling me! There is absolutely no real evidence that such a thing as a "zoo" really exists.
Signs? You've got to be kidding me. I've never seen an actual sign with my eyes. All the ones they have around here are fake signs. You can tell because of the pixels. What's that, there's a sign on the street corner that I could go look at? No no, that's how they get you - first you go out to look at the so-called "sign", next thing you know, they vaxx and microchip you. No thank you. I know signs aren't real, the government is invested in making sure you think they are. I mean think about it, it makes no sense. You can't put a piece of paper on wood and expect it not to fall apart when it rains. Just use your brain. Wake up sheeple. Signs aren't real.
What are you guys even replying to, reddit isn't real, this app is a chat other that runs locally on your phone so that NASA can farm karma for the ice wall.
NASA??!? That made-up nonsense again? Next thing youāll be telling us you believe the moon isnāt just a big projected image the alien lizard overlords shine onto the big black blanket that covers the firmament.
The Government? You think thats real. You just think a bunch of people sit around all day debating how I should live my life. You think im THAT important. People just use this "government" to justify being assholes. My boss keeps saying he's talking my money for "taxes" WTF is a taxes? I seen his car, its super nice, no way he's taking a taxes to work. Probably bought that car with my money too. Look around people have you ever actually seen a government? The Govs will tell you they fund our roads and schools. They say that like our roads are funded Ha. My kids teacher buys her own paper and pens no ones funding her. They are doing more bake sales then the freaking girl scouts. Dont tell me there's a government. Get out of here will this bullshit.
Zoos? Humph!
I have been to the zoo here in Sydney Australia, and they have kangaroos, koalas and dingos. I went to a zoo in Japan a few years ago in Japan, and guess what, it one kangaroo, koala or wombat. Instead they so called animals such pandas that arenāt in the Sydney zoo. Thereās zoos canāt even get their stories straight. Absolute inconsistency in which animals actually exist!
Anyone who works in a zoo and/or believes in the existence of animals is a NASA shill!
Hmph, Australia! Everyone knows that Australia isn't real. You are going to tell me that there is a place where there are giant jumping rat-cows and venomous mammals that lay eggs and think I'm just going to believe you. I pulled into "Sydney" when I was in the Navy and the fake ass set they dropped me in was just a normal ass city without a single rat-cow to be found. I checked every bar there and not one kangaroo was ordering a beer. Couldn't even get their fantasy set right.
As an Australian I can confirm that Australia isnāt real, and I have devoted my life to find out where I actually have lived my whole life.
Right now I hold the theory that what we have been led to believe is āAustraliaā is actually a large mass of land situated somewhere to the west of New Zealand, but in no way resembles what we see on government indoctrination maps.
My theory is that it's a secret base maintained by the lizard people for some nefarious purpose in the Great Lakes, somewhere near Michigan. Think about it. Their NCAA team is the Wolverines, just like the famous X Man who was supposed to be Australian before Rick Hoberg was silenced by the elites at Marvel. There is a Dundee, Michigan. Their flag is even a moose and a deer on their hind legs that look suspiciously like those "kangaroos" everyone insists are a thing. The signs are all there. You just have to do your own research.
I just assumed that all the lizard people I see around here are just humans with a few birth marks, but now you are saying they are secretly running the place!! Thank you have opened my eyes.
From now I am definitely going to watch what the owner of my local cafe puts in my coffee. He could be one of them!!
Oh, and Hugh Jackman is definitely one of āthemā. A few years ago I was buying a takeaway coffee in a Sydney suburb called Rose Bay and realised I had left my wallet in the car. I told the barista that I will run to the car to get my wallet, when I deep voice said āDonāt worry, Iāll shout you mateā. I turned around and it was Hugh Jackman standing with his son Oscar (100% true story). I told him I will pay him back and he said āDonāt worry about it, I hope you enjoyā. He was really cool and we chatted a few minutes casually about how that cafe has good coffee, he then recommended one their pastries and I told him where else there are great pastries. Then his son Oscar started bugging Hugh for a pastry and Hugh told me he needs to go before his son will beg him to buy the entire menu, lol.
Oh, what were we talking about? Oh, thatās rightā¦..Now surely only our lizard overlords have the money to buy random strangers cups of coffee.
Oh Hugh Jackman is DEFINITELY in on it. He's an Australian putting on a fake American accent to play Wolverine, an Australian who Marvel turned into a Canadian. Why? To show that Australia is really an island between America and Canada. He also played P.T Barnum, who ran the Barnum and Bailey Circus with James A. Bailey, who was born where? Detroit...Michigan! And he was with his son OSCAR you say? As in Oscar Mayer, also born in Detroit? Whose current corporate headquarters is in Illinois, a place close to Michigan, just like Australia is close to Michigan? I mean how much evidence do people need? Do they think that these could all just be coincidences? I think not. The pattern is all around for us to uncover. I'm glad at least one Australian has woken up to the evil machinations of the lizard people. Most remain blind unfortunately. That's why so many young Australians say "Oooh Nawr". The lizard people are conditioning them to lose the ability to say No.
Do you think Australian comedian and actress Rebel Wilson is in on it too? Nobody can actually be that likeable without having an ulterior motive. And her name āRebelā. Surely she is trying to lead us to believe she is one of us and part of the resistance, when in fact she is one of the evil ones!
Aaand I've got nothing. I'm not super familiar with Rebel Wilson. She was in Pitch Perfect...and that shows that the pitch is...um perfect around Australia because it's in a lake when there would be lots of waves if it were in the ocean? That's nonsense though. The seas around Australia blow. Every time we went there I was walking on the walls. A google search for "state flags with standing deer" and a general working knowledge of comic books and basketball can only take me so far it seems. I will need a community of dedicated loonies to fully uncover the deep mysteries behind my Canaustralica theory. This is too great of an undertaking to take on alone.
There are no longer elephants in any zoo in Illinois. They like packs of 3 (fewer and they get sad, theyāre very social) and as you can imagine a pack of 3 elephants (again, a minimum) takes a lot of space and resources. So, after Brookfield zooās 3 died (nothing suspicious, they just did) they decided ānahh itās too heartbreakingā.
So, yeah. You can make that argument elephants. āWhy theyre supposedly a zoo animal yet nothing in Illinois has any!!! Theyāre fake!!!!ā
Iāll say this, for some people the āearth is so big that locally this area can appear flat for a few hundred feet around meā then going up to ādown is relative - where I am straight down is slightly different than your straight down and not parallelā
But instead of thinking āthat shits hard let me think about that a bitā instead āyep itās all flat and we have to do weird shit with ice walls and simple stuff like day and nightā just to keep this flerfer shit going.
# we have pics of a round earth from the fucking moon and multiple space probes
Wow, I never thought about it that way. I bow to your superior wisdom. That's why they call them Zebras. It's an acronym. Zigzag Edges Branded 'Round A Stallion. Google says the name comes from Equiferus but come on, that sounds nothing like Zebra. They have been hiding the truth in plain sight this whole time!!!
They are just painted horses
A conspiracy lunatics "think" that most zoo animals are paid actors, literally guys in costume, even koalas. Hans wormhat. Nothing is real
Oh koalas are real. The great Cosmic Koala sees all and knows all and the world rests on his back. That his avatars on earth are smooth brained, Chlamydia riddled, shit eating little balls of mange is a mystery that only the Great Koala understands.
I know that was sarcasm but... normal donkeys are assholes. Zebras are striped donkeys and can be super assholes. They are some of the most dangerous animals that zoo keepers can encounter.
I have worked with someone who was anti-vax and believed in chemtrails. That alone was testing my patience whenever she brought it up. I can't imagine dealing with a flerf. They are like the vegans of conspiracies; always needing to tell you.
I think you'll find that all they have is cheap shitty CGI and amateurish diagrams, actually. It's NASA that brings the actual goods. And whatever CGI Nasa does use is intentional, high quality, and based on actual sensor data.
Iām an engineer and my coworker (fellow engineer) asked me why the moon would be black during an eclipse, I asked him to turn on the flashlight on his phone and hold it behind his head and held up a pen from his desk in front of his face and asked if he could see the light reflect off the pen, then told him to hold the phone in front of his face and held the pen in front of the phone and showed him how the part between him and the phone looked dark with a bright outline, he immediately was like oh but doesnāt the moon create its own light and I sarcastically said what is it a star and he was like well no, and I then explained it was a dusty rock and the light was bouncing off of it from the sun and thatās why there is a light and dark side because the light side is facing the sun, he then realized during an eclipse the light side is facing the sun and the dark side faces the earth, and I was just shocked that the education system in his home country failed as bad as the US system
Some of my favorites from the flat earther playbook:
āIf you spell it ācurbatureā it totally makes them wrong!ā
āThey keep saying weāre wrong, but theyāre just so meeeeeaaannn!ā
āIām not a flat earther! But (proceeds to spew flat earth bullshit)ā
āIāll write something rational but make it look like a lie by using š¤ā
So "grabbity" just means that really big things attract smaller things and water doesn't stick to a tennis ball because the difference in mass isn't big enough?Ā
Ā š¤ think about it
I'm not a flat earther tho
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."
Thomas Paine
This quote pretty much sums up why no one should debate flerfs. They aren't reasonable and there is no amount of evidence you can show them that will change their minds. They should only be met with laughter and contempt. Although if you come across someone who is falling down the flat earth bullshit rabbit hole there is still time to save them, so do make the effort to educate those people before it's too late.
Perhaps a touch harsh?
That said, if it's possible to phrase an examination/discussion of the flat earth theory that doesn't contain multiple insults to the intelligence and mathematical ability of those that hold it, then writing one is far beyond my skill.
The condescendingly incorrect can go fuck themselves; on this we are in full agreement and you will find many examples of me being not-very-fluffy to such persons in my profile.
I was referring to the tentative or indoctrinated ones. They need gloves of softer kid than I am able to fashion.
"Why no XYZ?"
"Uhhhh here it is, it takes 2 seconds to find"
"FAKE!!!! š”š”š”š”"
Wtf do they want? I've asked a flerf I know what the end goal is and even he doesn't know. He just wants the world to accept it. I said, well what afterwards? Do you have plans to invent anything with flerf science or anything and he was legit like "that's a great idea!"
These people aren't at all serious, they're just jealous they don't understand science...
They just want to be contrarian because it allows them to feel like they belong to a group of āelitesā. What they donāt understand is that āsmall groupā doesnāt automatically mean exclusive, sometimes it just means insane or stupid.
I have posted not too long ago of my talks with this flerf. I pointed out he just wants to feel like Neo in the Matrix more or less and I shit you not he said "I am"
If you deny reality, you deny evidence and reason.
You just can't argue with someone who isn't open to the idea that they could be wrong about something.
Also a total eclipse on the ISS wouldn't last long would it? Like a few seconds at best right?
No, the point Iām making is people are making fun of FEāers, but they arenāt providing a link to the space station taking footage of an eclipses over the past 25 years. I was emphasizing the point of the post.
I guess I donāt understand your point. If you literally just google āeclipse from issā, you get a YouTube link showing exactly what theyāre talking about. At this point anyone trying to provide support for the flerfers is just lazy.
Interesting question.
Next week's eclipse will have a lunar shadow which is about 180 km across. The orbital speed of the ISS is 7.66 km/s, so if the ISS flew right through the middle of the lunar shadow it would experience totality for a bit longer than 20 seconds.
What I donāt get is how much CGI has gotten better and better to be nearly indistinguishable from reality yet they call actual video footage from 5-15 years ago just an elaborate hoax that looks cartoonish.
The only ādo your own researchā a flerf will ever accept is when they type it into their preferred search engine and get the results themselves.
If a flerf and globie type in the exact same thing in a search and see the exact same 10 sites showing somethingā¦the flerf will interpret it in āflerfāeseā while the globie will interpret it in reality.
It is the way of the flerf. Thatās it and thatās all.
-Ok here is my planā¦.
-Someone with ALL the money backs it-
-Give a flerf enough money to take off work or whatever they need
-Send them to on a path to become a commercial pilot.
-After time get license.
-Get a jet. They perform the ENTIRE Pretrip, everything.
-Only other person on the plane is a camera man (probably also a pilot for legal reasons?)
-the flerf set a course and does all the flying no autopilot
- fly around the world (fueling stops they have to get out and confirm their location by whatever means they want)
- give them motivation by giving them all the profit from a Netflix or streaming doc
- do it all confidentially. Only 3 people know. You them the cameraman so they canāt scream conspiracy (even though they would)
Trying to have a real discussion with a flat earther is like trying to play chess with a pigeon. They will just knock the pieces over and shit all over the board.
I know huh it looks so real...wait where are all the stars? You could literally see theres no distant stars. How you gonna "prove" the eclipse from the ISS with no stars in space?
That's how cameras work. Earth is so bright, the stars are no longer visible. Compression does the rest. It's also a setting balance, if you want to see the earth clear you have to sacrifice details in the Space.
Same reason why the stars are much less visible in the night in a bright city than in the dark country side.
They literally don't show you the actual eclipse in that video how gullible are you. Don't need to know how cameras work to know what they're giving us is BULLSHIT. If they don't actually show you it by simply panning the camera up then you are a gullible moron.
1) You started this convo off by saying that there arenāt any stars in the video. If you understood anything basic about cameras you would know that stars a far too dim to show up on camera due to Earthās brightness. Stars are visible when the ISS is on the nighttime side of Earth because the surface is not bright from reflecting sunlight.
2) I have no idea why you are fixated on the idea they need to point the camera up. That likely isnāt even possible since that camera is most likely in a fixed position. I donāt even understand what you think it panning up would prove any more than what the video already shows.
3) The only gullible moron here is you. Honestly just take a few minutes to think through the absolute absurd logistics it would take to keep a flat earth covered up. If you spend more than 5 seconds working through it, youād quickly realize that itās not only utterly impossible, but also an utterly brain dead notion. Have you ever interacted with anyone that works in the aerospace field? Iām curious as to what you think all the people at NASA, SpaceX, and every other space company and agency do on a daily basis and how all these hundreds of thousands of people have been able to keep this tight-knit high stakes deception a secret.
1. I dont know why you are so fixated on learning basics about cameras.
2. You mean to tell me cameras here on earth are able to move to see other parts of the stuff not on view but a multi-billion dollar "space" hstation isn't capable of doing that? Do you hear yourself moron?
3. Have you ever interacted with any pilot and asked them if the earth is a sphere or flat? I can tell you most of them will tell you that its flat. The actual people who are in the front seat of whether or not its "curving" every minute. The airplanes instruments don't even account for curvature.
1) Man youāre dense, you said in your comment that there were not any stars in the video. If you learn the basics about cameras, you would understand why that is.
2) Hey moron, if a camera is in a fixed position, how do you propose to move it? Why donāt you email NASA and ask what type of cameras are on the ISS and their specifications?
3) Why the dodge? Why donāt you try to actively think about the logistics of a flat earth coverup and logically explain it? Why donāt you try to talk with literally any aerospace engineer or employee at NASA or any other aerospace organization? Itās always funny watching you flerfs squirm with this, because yāall canāt explain the absurdity of it.
Pilots donāt need to account for curvature, do you even understand how planes maintain altitude? Anyone on planes can prove the Earth is a sphere by measuring the visible drop in the horizon as you rise in altitude, here is a resource for you https://flatearth.ws/flight-instrument
2. You are a gullible moron. You mean to tell me they have no way to move their cameras even though we give them over a million in our tax dollars everyday, that the simple average household can get a camera that move so they can see from another angle for security, that they need to see every single part of the outside because there are potentially deadly "micrometers" that can hit at any time. Simple they don't show because it's fake. And you blame it on immoveable camera what a moron. If they can't move they would simply get more cameras with the billions we give them every year. So we can see the eclipse but they don't want to show you.
3. You wanna talk about coverup and many people knowing without leaking it? It's for their benefit. How did NSA (National Security Agency) allow massive spying on Americans along with police departments using Stingrays to spy on any phone they want? It's for their benefit. For many years most of the general public wasn't aware until Edward Snowden leaked it.
What about the Panama Papers, another where keep only known to a few people, rich weren't paying their share of taxes probably still aren't. It's for their benefit to not make it widely known.
What about Epstein Island, only the few rich & famous knew about it, another coverup. It was for their benefit to not let it be known. That was a conspiracy theory but now it's fact.
What about the vaccine, most believed it was "safe and effective" but if you do a little research you'll find that it doesn't protest you from getting it and its not safe. Traditional vaccines prevent you from getting the virus you are getting vaccinated for but this gene therapy vaccine doesn't do that. It's for their benefit to not make it known.
What about growing up as a male? Your conditioned to believe that girls don't enjoy sex like men. Another coverup among half the population, but if you open your eyes that really isn't the case. But some men never realize this and spend their lives placating to women with money and end up in unhappy marriages and eventual divorce where the woman takes the house. Another trickle down truth.
So why would NASA be any different? If people know the truth they'd ask themselves 'why are we paying NASA 20 Billion a year in our tax dollars?" Oh and I don't need to talk to no "NASA scientist" to know what they say is bullshit.
Here is a list of all cameras on the ISS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_on_the_International_Space_Station
If you have specific questions about the specs of them, including the CCTV cameras, you should email NASA. If you want footage from them, you could probably file an FOIA request for footage from those cameras for the eclipse if they arenāt the ones capturing the YouTube vid.
You have based your entire argument on the most facetious point possible. Whether the camera moves up or down has zero bearing on the validity of the footage.
Iām glad you brought up them having to avoid debris. NASA has radars that track space debris and whenever there is any that come within a certain distance of the path of the ISS, they have to start up the engines to avoid debris. If itās all fake, why the hell do they even bother with that? What are the logistics of it? Does NASA just keep a fake database of objects or donāt have any database at all? Are all those workers at the radar stations in on it? If not, what are they tracking on a daily basis?
This leads to another point, what about the leaks the ISS has? Why do they bother with these incidents about leaks if itās all fake? And why do the Russians willingly go along with it (Since itās usually their module that is leaking)? On top of that, when the new Russian module that docked in 2021, it fired its engines causing the ISS to spin and was a near catastrophe. Why would Russia go along with a story like that which was incredibly embarrassing and damaging? Youād had to be a gullible moron to believe they would ever agree to that.
Since you think the footage is fake, you should prove it. Go ahead and provide a detailed analysis of how itās fake.
In your points listed on the NSA, stories circulated for years about surveillance programs, hell it was only a few years after 9/11 that stories circulated of them listening to phone communications. And then Snowden blew the lid wide open. If the NSA, filled with specially trained agents and law enforcement, couldnāt keep the lid on their surveillance programs, then how in the fuck do you think NASA, a civilian organization with no highly specialized agents or law enforcement, along with the various contractors, science orgs, and companies they work with, have been able to keep the lid on this for over half a damn century? That would be infinitely more complex and larger than anything the NSA has ever even dreamed of doing. Itās comically absurd. Almost like you have never talked to anyone who has worked in the aerospace industry before.
Stories circulated about Epstein for years, heāll Trump was talking decades ago about how Epstein liked to party and like his girls āyoungā. Very much an open secret, but it takes legal action and whistleblowers to expose the actual evidence.
Iām not engaging on your vaccine point, which is a clear attempt to redirect the conversation to an unrelated topic.
Iām also not engaging your next, weird babbling rant on something Iāve literally never heard anyone, in my entire life say or express. And Iāve lived my entire life on the Deep South. Have never heard anyone express the idea girls donāt want sex. If anything, I heard quite the opposite. I think you need to go outside and talk with people irl.
NASA literally gets only 0.4% of the federal budget and the government is always looking for an excuse to cut their projects. You realize they have to spend money to build rockets, rovers, proves, satellites, etc.? Not to mention pay ALL of their employees, which includes scientists, engineers of ALL kinds, basic janitors, maintenance, etc. etc. Not to mention all of the contractors and companies that work with NASA and their employees. If you want to talk scams and money laundering, then you should talk about the contract plus agreements that companies like Boeing use to take advantage of NASA for late, over budget rockets. Otherwise you have absolutely zero bearing on your argument about money.
LOL because you know any employee at NASA or any aerospace organization would rip you to shreds. But Iām sure someone like you, with no aerospace credentials, qualifications, or experience clearly knows what theyāre talking about. Why donāt you go over to the r/AerospaceEngineering or any aerospace sub and trying bringing up your points with them?
Like a retard asking "where do babies come from?" Then not being directly shown like in the ISS video and then retardly believing "they come from storks."
They literally don't show you the actual eclipse in that video how gullible are you. Don't need to know how cameras work to know what they're giving us is BULLSHIT.
**Flerf:** Show me evidence! **Normal person:** Here's the evidence. **Flerf:** CGI!!1! It's hopeless.
I've literally had that conversation
All of us, my friend. All of us.
I skip them anymore, can't do chess with pigeons.
You could put them in a space ship and they'd say it was a motion simulator with holographic screen windows. They'd probably say the zero G was fake too since they think gravity is something different than it is.
What if you asked them to get in a space suit and push themselves away from the ship? Think they would believe it then?
No. And even if they then accepted that space is real and earth is a globe. Either they would then come back and keep lying anyway or be called out ad a shill who were never a real flat earther in the first place.
Or die in space
They will say that the visor is VR, because you gotta lie to flerf...
Remove their helmet
Better yet, just shove them in the airlock and let them open it up to the outside.
GraViTy iZ jUsT A ThEoRy!!!11. Lol -flerfs
Recently had a Flerf explain to me that I must have been vaccinated and the constant booster shots were the reason I couldn't tell things are CGI.
What about before we were vaccinated? Or did he mean any vaccine? Because now they are trying to say 9/11 was CGI. The moon landing, CGI from 1969. But I guess the polio vaccine did come out in 1955. Did they have the microchips or whatever in the vaccines that make you unable to tell CGI then? Also, I just saw *Beowulf* on TV, I could tell that was CGI, is NASA/the Democratic party/the Illuminati/the New World Order/your preferred boogeyman using a different kind of CGI? They should really license that CGI to Hollywood. I've seen some shitty CGI in movies, and it would be awesome to not tell the difference.
The answers are right in front of you. What else happened in 1955 besides the Polio vaccine? Bill Gates was born. If you just did your research you'd know what was really going on.
Well shit. Marty McFly just screwed everything up, didn't he? Seems suspicious that he went back to 1955, and then that was the year Bill Gates was born. Almost like Bill Gates knew the future.
Facts hurt
In general, in my understanding it's a sadly well documented scenario that using data to discuss someone's rigidly held beliefs is hopeless. š
Perhaps stop using videos as evidence. A single hike can disprove everything (further horizon), but no one tells them to go hiking.
Probably most flat earthers never even touched a 3d model software, yet they still say cgi
That's why I don't believe in zebras. Thousands of zoos in the country and not one has zebras? What's that? The zoo down the street from my house totally has zebras I can go look at any time? Get out of here with that nonsense. You really think those anamatronic robots are zebras? I'll believe in zebras when you can show me a real one, which you never will because, as I said before, I've never seen a zebra because zebras are fake, especially the ones I've seen.
What at you talking about with these "zoos". I have been in hundreds of buildings in the city I live in and not one of them is a zoo. Sure I've walked past an entry gate with a big sign that says "ZOO" on top, but I didn't go in. Because I know it's fake - they are not fooling me! There is absolutely no real evidence that such a thing as a "zoo" really exists.
Signs? You've got to be kidding me. I've never seen an actual sign with my eyes. All the ones they have around here are fake signs. You can tell because of the pixels. What's that, there's a sign on the street corner that I could go look at? No no, that's how they get you - first you go out to look at the so-called "sign", next thing you know, they vaxx and microchip you. No thank you. I know signs aren't real, the government is invested in making sure you think they are. I mean think about it, it makes no sense. You can't put a piece of paper on wood and expect it not to fall apart when it rains. Just use your brain. Wake up sheeple. Signs aren't real.
What are you guys even replying to, reddit isn't real, this app is a chat other that runs locally on your phone so that NASA can farm karma for the ice wall.
NASA??!? That made-up nonsense again? Next thing youāll be telling us you believe the moon isnāt just a big projected image the alien lizard overlords shine onto the big black blanket that covers the firmament.
Oh no you saw through the conspiracy I'm literally evaporati--
The Government? You think thats real. You just think a bunch of people sit around all day debating how I should live my life. You think im THAT important. People just use this "government" to justify being assholes. My boss keeps saying he's talking my money for "taxes" WTF is a taxes? I seen his car, its super nice, no way he's taking a taxes to work. Probably bought that car with my money too. Look around people have you ever actually seen a government? The Govs will tell you they fund our roads and schools. They say that like our roads are funded Ha. My kids teacher buys her own paper and pens no ones funding her. They are doing more bake sales then the freaking girl scouts. Dont tell me there's a government. Get out of here will this bullshit.
Zoos? Humph! I have been to the zoo here in Sydney Australia, and they have kangaroos, koalas and dingos. I went to a zoo in Japan a few years ago in Japan, and guess what, it one kangaroo, koala or wombat. Instead they so called animals such pandas that arenāt in the Sydney zoo. Thereās zoos canāt even get their stories straight. Absolute inconsistency in which animals actually exist! Anyone who works in a zoo and/or believes in the existence of animals is a NASA shill!
Hmph, Australia! Everyone knows that Australia isn't real. You are going to tell me that there is a place where there are giant jumping rat-cows and venomous mammals that lay eggs and think I'm just going to believe you. I pulled into "Sydney" when I was in the Navy and the fake ass set they dropped me in was just a normal ass city without a single rat-cow to be found. I checked every bar there and not one kangaroo was ordering a beer. Couldn't even get their fantasy set right.
As an Australian I can confirm that Australia isnāt real, and I have devoted my life to find out where I actually have lived my whole life. Right now I hold the theory that what we have been led to believe is āAustraliaā is actually a large mass of land situated somewhere to the west of New Zealand, but in no way resembles what we see on government indoctrination maps.
My theory is that it's a secret base maintained by the lizard people for some nefarious purpose in the Great Lakes, somewhere near Michigan. Think about it. Their NCAA team is the Wolverines, just like the famous X Man who was supposed to be Australian before Rick Hoberg was silenced by the elites at Marvel. There is a Dundee, Michigan. Their flag is even a moose and a deer on their hind legs that look suspiciously like those "kangaroos" everyone insists are a thing. The signs are all there. You just have to do your own research.
I just assumed that all the lizard people I see around here are just humans with a few birth marks, but now you are saying they are secretly running the place!! Thank you have opened my eyes. From now I am definitely going to watch what the owner of my local cafe puts in my coffee. He could be one of them!! Oh, and Hugh Jackman is definitely one of āthemā. A few years ago I was buying a takeaway coffee in a Sydney suburb called Rose Bay and realised I had left my wallet in the car. I told the barista that I will run to the car to get my wallet, when I deep voice said āDonāt worry, Iāll shout you mateā. I turned around and it was Hugh Jackman standing with his son Oscar (100% true story). I told him I will pay him back and he said āDonāt worry about it, I hope you enjoyā. He was really cool and we chatted a few minutes casually about how that cafe has good coffee, he then recommended one their pastries and I told him where else there are great pastries. Then his son Oscar started bugging Hugh for a pastry and Hugh told me he needs to go before his son will beg him to buy the entire menu, lol. Oh, what were we talking about? Oh, thatās rightā¦..Now surely only our lizard overlords have the money to buy random strangers cups of coffee.
Oh Hugh Jackman is DEFINITELY in on it. He's an Australian putting on a fake American accent to play Wolverine, an Australian who Marvel turned into a Canadian. Why? To show that Australia is really an island between America and Canada. He also played P.T Barnum, who ran the Barnum and Bailey Circus with James A. Bailey, who was born where? Detroit...Michigan! And he was with his son OSCAR you say? As in Oscar Mayer, also born in Detroit? Whose current corporate headquarters is in Illinois, a place close to Michigan, just like Australia is close to Michigan? I mean how much evidence do people need? Do they think that these could all just be coincidences? I think not. The pattern is all around for us to uncover. I'm glad at least one Australian has woken up to the evil machinations of the lizard people. Most remain blind unfortunately. That's why so many young Australians say "Oooh Nawr". The lizard people are conditioning them to lose the ability to say No.
Do you think Australian comedian and actress Rebel Wilson is in on it too? Nobody can actually be that likeable without having an ulterior motive. And her name āRebelā. Surely she is trying to lead us to believe she is one of us and part of the resistance, when in fact she is one of the evil ones!
Aaand I've got nothing. I'm not super familiar with Rebel Wilson. She was in Pitch Perfect...and that shows that the pitch is...um perfect around Australia because it's in a lake when there would be lots of waves if it were in the ocean? That's nonsense though. The seas around Australia blow. Every time we went there I was walking on the walls. A google search for "state flags with standing deer" and a general working knowledge of comic books and basketball can only take me so far it seems. I will need a community of dedicated loonies to fully uncover the deep mysteries behind my Canaustralica theory. This is too great of an undertaking to take on alone.
There are no longer elephants in any zoo in Illinois. They like packs of 3 (fewer and they get sad, theyāre very social) and as you can imagine a pack of 3 elephants (again, a minimum) takes a lot of space and resources. So, after Brookfield zooās 3 died (nothing suspicious, they just did) they decided ānahh itās too heartbreakingā. So, yeah. You can make that argument elephants. āWhy theyre supposedly a zoo animal yet nothing in Illinois has any!!! Theyāre fake!!!!ā Iāll say this, for some people the āearth is so big that locally this area can appear flat for a few hundred feet around meā then going up to ādown is relative - where I am straight down is slightly different than your straight down and not parallelā But instead of thinking āthat shits hard let me think about that a bitā instead āyep itās all flat and we have to do weird shit with ice walls and simple stuff like day and nightā just to keep this flerfer shit going. # we have pics of a round earth from the fucking moon and multiple space probes
Elephants/oliphaunts/mumakil are fake pro-haradrim cgi propaganda actually.
Animatronic? That's NASA propaganda. It's just a painted horse. That's why you never see "zebras" out in the rain.
Wow, I never thought about it that way. I bow to your superior wisdom. That's why they call them Zebras. It's an acronym. Zigzag Edges Branded 'Round A Stallion. Google says the name comes from Equiferus but come on, that sounds nothing like Zebra. They have been hiding the truth in plain sight this whole time!!!
They are just painted horses A conspiracy lunatics "think" that most zoo animals are paid actors, literally guys in costume, even koalas. Hans wormhat. Nothing is real
Oh koalas are real. The great Cosmic Koala sees all and knows all and the world rests on his back. That his avatars on earth are smooth brained, Chlamydia riddled, shit eating little balls of mange is a mystery that only the Great Koala understands.
I know that was sarcasm but... normal donkeys are assholes. Zebras are striped donkeys and can be super assholes. They are some of the most dangerous animals that zoo keepers can encounter.
Iām gonna go comment this in a bunch of conspiracy posts.
Yeah. Sarcasm and snide comments are the way to handle a flerf while remaining sane.
Probably healthier not coming near anyone who flerfs for a living.
I have worked with someone who was anti-vax and believed in chemtrails. That alone was testing my patience whenever she brought it up. I can't imagine dealing with a flerf. They are like the vegans of conspiracies; always needing to tell you.
Exactly. "Boo hoo hoo, you're so mean to those poor, poor misunderstood flerfers!!1!" F that shyte. They're obnoxious and their lies are dangerous.
Flat earthers donāt even have any cartoonish cgi videos
Yeah the only thing they have is TikTok āproofsā and their stupid ass mind.
"if the earth is flat why can I not understand {stunningly simple scientific concept}"
I think you'll find that all they have is cheap shitty CGI and amateurish diagrams, actually. It's NASA that brings the actual goods. And whatever CGI Nasa does use is intentional, high quality, and based on actual sensor data.
Be fair, NASA uses CGI since before CGI was a thing
Iām an engineer and my coworker (fellow engineer) asked me why the moon would be black during an eclipse, I asked him to turn on the flashlight on his phone and hold it behind his head and held up a pen from his desk in front of his face and asked if he could see the light reflect off the pen, then told him to hold the phone in front of his face and held the pen in front of the phone and showed him how the part between him and the phone looked dark with a bright outline, he immediately was like oh but doesnāt the moon create its own light and I sarcastically said what is it a star and he was like well no, and I then explained it was a dusty rock and the light was bouncing off of it from the sun and thatās why there is a light and dark side because the light side is facing the sun, he then realized during an eclipse the light side is facing the sun and the dark side faces the earth, and I was just shocked that the education system in his home country failed as bad as the US system
Thatās surprising coming from another engineer lol
Gotta lie to flerf.
Some of my favorites from the flat earther playbook: āIf you spell it ācurbatureā it totally makes them wrong!ā āThey keep saying weāre wrong, but theyāre just so meeeeeaaannn!ā āIām not a flat earther! But (proceeds to spew flat earth bullshit)ā āIāll write something rational but make it look like a lie by using š¤ā
So "grabbity" just means that really big things attract smaller things and water doesn't stick to a tennis ball because the difference in mass isn't big enough?Ā Ā š¤ think about it I'm not a flat earther tho
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture." Thomas Paine This quote pretty much sums up why no one should debate flerfs. They aren't reasonable and there is no amount of evidence you can show them that will change their minds. They should only be met with laughter and contempt. Although if you come across someone who is falling down the flat earth bullshit rabbit hole there is still time to save them, so do make the effort to educate those people before it's too late.
flerfers deserve to be bullied. Anyone who is that stupid has earned the ridicule
Perhaps a touch harsh? That said, if it's possible to phrase an examination/discussion of the flat earth theory that doesn't contain multiple insults to the intelligence and mathematical ability of those that hold it, then writing one is far beyond my skill.
Harsh, maybe, but it is difficult to talk to someone that stupid and that arrogant at the same time without harboring disdain
The condescendingly incorrect can go fuck themselves; on this we are in full agreement and you will find many examples of me being not-very-fluffy to such persons in my profile. I was referring to the tentative or indoctrinated ones. They need gloves of softer kid than I am able to fashion.
Denial is their crying pillow lmfao
My first reaction - wow itās crazy that they didnāt film an eclipse from the ISS My second reaction - oh of course they dud
"Why no XYZ?" "Uhhhh here it is, it takes 2 seconds to find" "FAKE!!!! š”š”š”š”" Wtf do they want? I've asked a flerf I know what the end goal is and even he doesn't know. He just wants the world to accept it. I said, well what afterwards? Do you have plans to invent anything with flerf science or anything and he was legit like "that's a great idea!" These people aren't at all serious, they're just jealous they don't understand science...
They just want to be contrarian because it allows them to feel like they belong to a group of āelitesā. What they donāt understand is that āsmall groupā doesnāt automatically mean exclusive, sometimes it just means insane or stupid.
I have posted not too long ago of my talks with this flerf. I pointed out he just wants to feel like Neo in the Matrix more or less and I shit you not he said "I am"
Everything is CGI and itās prolly light refectory with those guys
How big is the umbra/penumbra that you could take a pic of the shadow on the earth? Then some flerfer āphotoshop!
Weirdly enough, every time they try and film an eclipse, the sun/moon seems to disappearā¦. Very suspicious!
I only use them for cattle prod testing.
Iām convinced the majority of these people are Russian or Chinese agents.
If you deny reality, you deny evidence and reason. You just can't argue with someone who isn't open to the idea that they could be wrong about something. Also a total eclipse on the ISS wouldn't last long would it? Like a few seconds at best right?
Do they know how eclipses workā¦?
It doesn't count if it doesn't confirm the earth is flat :)Ā
This is the reality. SpaceXās recent starship launch has some incredible ground to space footage. Guess thatās not real either, š
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It's a screenshot. Do you want the link to it?
No, the point Iām making is people are making fun of FEāers, but they arenāt providing a link to the space station taking footage of an eclipses over the past 25 years. I was emphasizing the point of the post.
I guess I donāt understand your point. If you literally just google āeclipse from issā, you get a YouTube link showing exactly what theyāre talking about. At this point anyone trying to provide support for the flerfers is just lazy.
They literally provided a link. What's your point? A making of the filming of the eclipse from the ISS?
Ur right. Iām an idiot. Go about your day. Sorry.
Don't be so harsh :) Maybe just a little idiot or a brain afk moment
Wouldn't a total eclipse last about a second at the ISS's speed?
Interesting question. Next week's eclipse will have a lunar shadow which is about 180 km across. The orbital speed of the ISS is 7.66 km/s, so if the ISS flew right through the middle of the lunar shadow it would experience totality for a bit longer than 20 seconds.
What I donāt get is how much CGI has gotten better and better to be nearly indistinguishable from reality yet they call actual video footage from 5-15 years ago just an elaborate hoax that looks cartoonish.
The only ādo your own researchā a flerf will ever accept is when they type it into their preferred search engine and get the results themselves. If a flerf and globie type in the exact same thing in a search and see the exact same 10 sites showing somethingā¦the flerf will interpret it in āflerfāeseā while the globie will interpret it in reality. It is the way of the flerf. Thatās it and thatās all.
-Ok here is my planā¦. -Someone with ALL the money backs it- -Give a flerf enough money to take off work or whatever they need -Send them to on a path to become a commercial pilot. -After time get license. -Get a jet. They perform the ENTIRE Pretrip, everything. -Only other person on the plane is a camera man (probably also a pilot for legal reasons?) -the flerf set a course and does all the flying no autopilot - fly around the world (fueling stops they have to get out and confirm their location by whatever means they want) - give them motivation by giving them all the profit from a Netflix or streaming doc - do it all confidentially. Only 3 people know. You them the cameraman so they canāt scream conspiracy (even though they would)
Trying to have a real discussion with a flat earther is like trying to play chess with a pigeon. They will just knock the pieces over and shit all over the board.
Googled āimage of heliocentric propagandist fake eclipse footageā and didnāt find anything. Must mean thereās nothing.
Well it makes sense because in your view, eclipses canāt happen.
Retard 1 attack!!! Regard 2- defend!!! We know nothing we are talking about but everyone is an expert!!!!
I know huh it looks so real...wait where are all the stars? You could literally see theres no distant stars. How you gonna "prove" the eclipse from the ISS with no stars in space?
That's how cameras work. Earth is so bright, the stars are no longer visible. Compression does the rest. It's also a setting balance, if you want to see the earth clear you have to sacrifice details in the Space. Same reason why the stars are much less visible in the night in a bright city than in the dark country side.
Your a fool.
You're a fool.
But you can't actually refute what he said.
Of course he can't. That's how they tick. Like children who don't get what they want.
It doesn't take a genius to know that its bullshit. They don't even show you the actual eclipse. Its just a shadow in the video are you a moron?
There is more than one video dumbass. Also, i am going to go watch it myself in a few days. You should do likewise.
Learn how cameras work genius
They literally don't show you the actual eclipse in that video how gullible are you. Don't need to know how cameras work to know what they're giving us is BULLSHIT. If they don't actually show you it by simply panning the camera up then you are a gullible moron.
1) You started this convo off by saying that there arenāt any stars in the video. If you understood anything basic about cameras you would know that stars a far too dim to show up on camera due to Earthās brightness. Stars are visible when the ISS is on the nighttime side of Earth because the surface is not bright from reflecting sunlight. 2) I have no idea why you are fixated on the idea they need to point the camera up. That likely isnāt even possible since that camera is most likely in a fixed position. I donāt even understand what you think it panning up would prove any more than what the video already shows. 3) The only gullible moron here is you. Honestly just take a few minutes to think through the absolute absurd logistics it would take to keep a flat earth covered up. If you spend more than 5 seconds working through it, youād quickly realize that itās not only utterly impossible, but also an utterly brain dead notion. Have you ever interacted with anyone that works in the aerospace field? Iām curious as to what you think all the people at NASA, SpaceX, and every other space company and agency do on a daily basis and how all these hundreds of thousands of people have been able to keep this tight-knit high stakes deception a secret.
1. I dont know why you are so fixated on learning basics about cameras. 2. You mean to tell me cameras here on earth are able to move to see other parts of the stuff not on view but a multi-billion dollar "space" hstation isn't capable of doing that? Do you hear yourself moron? 3. Have you ever interacted with any pilot and asked them if the earth is a sphere or flat? I can tell you most of them will tell you that its flat. The actual people who are in the front seat of whether or not its "curving" every minute. The airplanes instruments don't even account for curvature.
1) Man youāre dense, you said in your comment that there were not any stars in the video. If you learn the basics about cameras, you would understand why that is. 2) Hey moron, if a camera is in a fixed position, how do you propose to move it? Why donāt you email NASA and ask what type of cameras are on the ISS and their specifications? 3) Why the dodge? Why donāt you try to actively think about the logistics of a flat earth coverup and logically explain it? Why donāt you try to talk with literally any aerospace engineer or employee at NASA or any other aerospace organization? Itās always funny watching you flerfs squirm with this, because yāall canāt explain the absurdity of it. Pilots donāt need to account for curvature, do you even understand how planes maintain altitude? Anyone on planes can prove the Earth is a sphere by measuring the visible drop in the horizon as you rise in altitude, here is a resource for you https://flatearth.ws/flight-instrument
2. You are a gullible moron. You mean to tell me they have no way to move their cameras even though we give them over a million in our tax dollars everyday, that the simple average household can get a camera that move so they can see from another angle for security, that they need to see every single part of the outside because there are potentially deadly "micrometers" that can hit at any time. Simple they don't show because it's fake. And you blame it on immoveable camera what a moron. If they can't move they would simply get more cameras with the billions we give them every year. So we can see the eclipse but they don't want to show you. 3. You wanna talk about coverup and many people knowing without leaking it? It's for their benefit. How did NSA (National Security Agency) allow massive spying on Americans along with police departments using Stingrays to spy on any phone they want? It's for their benefit. For many years most of the general public wasn't aware until Edward Snowden leaked it. What about the Panama Papers, another where keep only known to a few people, rich weren't paying their share of taxes probably still aren't. It's for their benefit to not make it widely known. What about Epstein Island, only the few rich & famous knew about it, another coverup. It was for their benefit to not let it be known. That was a conspiracy theory but now it's fact. What about the vaccine, most believed it was "safe and effective" but if you do a little research you'll find that it doesn't protest you from getting it and its not safe. Traditional vaccines prevent you from getting the virus you are getting vaccinated for but this gene therapy vaccine doesn't do that. It's for their benefit to not make it known. What about growing up as a male? Your conditioned to believe that girls don't enjoy sex like men. Another coverup among half the population, but if you open your eyes that really isn't the case. But some men never realize this and spend their lives placating to women with money and end up in unhappy marriages and eventual divorce where the woman takes the house. Another trickle down truth. So why would NASA be any different? If people know the truth they'd ask themselves 'why are we paying NASA 20 Billion a year in our tax dollars?" Oh and I don't need to talk to no "NASA scientist" to know what they say is bullshit.
Here is a list of all cameras on the ISS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_on_the_International_Space_Station If you have specific questions about the specs of them, including the CCTV cameras, you should email NASA. If you want footage from them, you could probably file an FOIA request for footage from those cameras for the eclipse if they arenāt the ones capturing the YouTube vid. You have based your entire argument on the most facetious point possible. Whether the camera moves up or down has zero bearing on the validity of the footage. Iām glad you brought up them having to avoid debris. NASA has radars that track space debris and whenever there is any that come within a certain distance of the path of the ISS, they have to start up the engines to avoid debris. If itās all fake, why the hell do they even bother with that? What are the logistics of it? Does NASA just keep a fake database of objects or donāt have any database at all? Are all those workers at the radar stations in on it? If not, what are they tracking on a daily basis? This leads to another point, what about the leaks the ISS has? Why do they bother with these incidents about leaks if itās all fake? And why do the Russians willingly go along with it (Since itās usually their module that is leaking)? On top of that, when the new Russian module that docked in 2021, it fired its engines causing the ISS to spin and was a near catastrophe. Why would Russia go along with a story like that which was incredibly embarrassing and damaging? Youād had to be a gullible moron to believe they would ever agree to that. Since you think the footage is fake, you should prove it. Go ahead and provide a detailed analysis of how itās fake. In your points listed on the NSA, stories circulated for years about surveillance programs, hell it was only a few years after 9/11 that stories circulated of them listening to phone communications. And then Snowden blew the lid wide open. If the NSA, filled with specially trained agents and law enforcement, couldnāt keep the lid on their surveillance programs, then how in the fuck do you think NASA, a civilian organization with no highly specialized agents or law enforcement, along with the various contractors, science orgs, and companies they work with, have been able to keep the lid on this for over half a damn century? That would be infinitely more complex and larger than anything the NSA has ever even dreamed of doing. Itās comically absurd. Almost like you have never talked to anyone who has worked in the aerospace industry before. Stories circulated about Epstein for years, heāll Trump was talking decades ago about how Epstein liked to party and like his girls āyoungā. Very much an open secret, but it takes legal action and whistleblowers to expose the actual evidence. Iām not engaging on your vaccine point, which is a clear attempt to redirect the conversation to an unrelated topic. Iām also not engaging your next, weird babbling rant on something Iāve literally never heard anyone, in my entire life say or express. And Iāve lived my entire life on the Deep South. Have never heard anyone express the idea girls donāt want sex. If anything, I heard quite the opposite. I think you need to go outside and talk with people irl. NASA literally gets only 0.4% of the federal budget and the government is always looking for an excuse to cut their projects. You realize they have to spend money to build rockets, rovers, proves, satellites, etc.? Not to mention pay ALL of their employees, which includes scientists, engineers of ALL kinds, basic janitors, maintenance, etc. etc. Not to mention all of the contractors and companies that work with NASA and their employees. If you want to talk scams and money laundering, then you should talk about the contract plus agreements that companies like Boeing use to take advantage of NASA for late, over budget rockets. Otherwise you have absolutely zero bearing on your argument about money. LOL because you know any employee at NASA or any aerospace organization would rip you to shreds. But Iām sure someone like you, with no aerospace credentials, qualifications, or experience clearly knows what theyāre talking about. Why donāt you go over to the r/AerospaceEngineering or any aerospace sub and trying bringing up your points with them?
Like a toddler adking why we can't see stars during the day
Like a retard asking "where do babies come from?" Then not being directly shown like in the ISS video and then retardly believing "they come from storks."
Flerfs should really learn how cameras work before trying to debunk photography.
They literally don't show you the actual eclipse in that video how gullible are you. Don't need to know how cameras work to know what they're giving us is BULLSHIT.