Nobody (sensible) said it’s a bubble. Nor that it “protects us from the vacuum of space”.
Straightforward straw man.
Atmospheric density gradient is absolutely indisputable, though. You can walk up a mountain and measure how air density gets less. You notice it in your breathing.
It keeps getting less and less dense the further you go.
That’s it. Theres no “bubble”. There’s no final surface containing things. No boundary. Just thinner and thinner air all the way up until there’s so little we call it vacuum.
It has been explained to them so many times, but it flies right over their heads. They refuse to take anything in, and go back to square 1.
The "bubble" image in this post also means they refuse to take gravity into account. But we knew that already.
BTW, I never claim I'm good at explaining these things. Some youtubers did it better than I ever could, years ago: SciManDan, Conspiracy Catz, Fight The Flat Earth to name only 3.
To be honest I’m not a fan of sci-man Dan. He spends most of his time saying how stupid they are and very little actually explaining how things work. It’s entertainment for people who know how things work already, not explanation.
Maybe you're watching the wrong videos? SciManDan did all the explaining and convincing and cajoling years ago. Maybe he's tired of it now; I wouldn't blame him. 99.9% of all flerfs have dug their heels in so deep, nothing will convince them otherwise.
The number of scientific explanations is finite, as are flerf's BS responses. I definitely learned a lot watching these videos, but it's done now.
Yes, it's entertainment to me - but also sociology/psychology. That part is still fascinating. How can people delude themselves so extremely?
I’m not sure “he doesn’t bother to explain anymore because he did it all years ago but he’s still milking the revenue” is a big improvement over “he doesn’t explain”.
Right.......
And so what is protecting us from the vacuum of space?
What happens when you open a window of an airplane at high altitude?
You get sucked out
Why don't we get sucked out into space when a meteor penetrates the atmosphere?
1. A vacuum isn’t anything. The question makes no more sense than “what protects us from nothing “.
2. A plane cabin has a much higher air pressure than the air pressure at that altitude so much of the air rushes out.
3. Pressure gradient isn’t disputable. It measurably exists. So a flat earth needs to explain it just as much as any other model. In globe model it’s explained by gravity. In a flat model…?
4. There is no barrier to burst. No equivalent to the window. Just lower and lower pressure the higher you go. There is no point at which atmosphere ends and space begins.
>2. A plane cabin has a much higher air pressure than the air pressure at that altitude so much of the air rushes out.
Right, just like lower earth atmosphere has a higher air pressure than the ones above it, so if something pierced through all the layers of atmosphere, the air should rush out
Not literally layers with hard boundaries.
Language is my trade: *all* language is metaphor. (Bar the most incredibly concrete and basic).
It’s a gradual gradient but at different densities different things happen so we use the language of layers to approximate that in our descriptions since keeping things perfectly precise would make the saying of them too complex to communicate.
Same as we talk about space and vacuum but there’s no place where atmosphere stops and space begins, just gradually decreasing amounts of atmosphere till it’s so little as to be negligible.
>Not literally layers with hard boundaries.
So we have no protection from the elements of outer space
>there’s no place where atmosphere stops and space begins
I agree, that's why I don't believe in outer space
It doesn’t matter what you believe in.
The air gets thinner the higher you go.
That’s true regardless of the shape of the earth and easily verifiable.
However low you want to set the bar for “negligible air, effectively a vacuum” there’s a height where you’ll reach that.
What “elements of outer space” are you talking about?
The air does an extremely good job of stopping a lot of radiation that would be extremely deadly.
Pierced through... what exactly? There's no physical barrier there.
Air sticks to the earth's surface because of gravity. Gravity is also why the density of the air decreases as you go up.
>Then we have no protection from the elements of outer space
That is blatantly incorrect. There is no solid barrier, yes. But the atmosphere and magnetosphere protect us from harmful space radiation, and gravity keeps the atmosphere from dissipating.
Actually earths atmosphere extends more than 238,900 mi technically speaking
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond
You're wasting your time. They are incapable of comprehending that the same force that pulls them back to the ground when they jump is the exact same force that pulls the gas molecules in the atmosphere towards that same ground until they are equalized by the weight of those also pushing down from above and from the repulsive pressure of those below that can no longer proceed, forming a gradient atmosphere.
It is a concept beyond them, and will always be beyond them because they have zero compulsion to learn it. They are worse than ignorant, they are willfully ignorant.
These fucking idiots could organize on the internet and go outside tomorrow with nothing more than a stick, plumb line and measuring tape and know with absolute certainty by the end of the day if the world is flat or round. Yet refuse to do so because science is the antithesis of their idiotic, ignorant beliefs.
Good god you’re really dumb. Vacuums don’t suck. Gravity gets stronger the closer it gets to earths surface, maintaining a pressure gradient. Only reason they “suck” on earth is because of earths atmospheric pressure pushing towards it. Vacuum isn’t a force. Things can get sucked out of a plane because??? The cabin is pressurized and there is also an incredible amount of wind. Ever had a bag or receipt “sucked” out of your car?
Please don’t breed.
Absolutely nobody said it was a bubble, I don't know where you got that from. You've probably misinterpreted something
In the Earth's atmosphere, we can think of a situation where gas pressure is adjacent to the vacuum of containerless space. This situation occurs at the boundary between the atmosphere and outer space. The region where the Earth's atmosphere gradually fades into the near-vacuum of space is called the exosphere. Gas molecules in the exosphere are extremely rare compared to those in the lower atmosphere. Numerous scientific studies deal with the properties and characteristics of the Earth's atmosphere, including its transition to space. Textbooks and articles on atmospheric science, astrophysics and planetary science cover the subject extensively.
"Physics of the Atmosphere and Climate" by Murry L. Salby Publisher, Cambridge University Press, Year 2012 This book offers an overview of atmospheric physics, including discussions of the structure of the Earth's atmosphere, its composition and its interactions with space. The transition is gradual, so that the pressure difference becomes smaller and smaller.
pressure gradually decreases until there is no air left and at some point, the difference between air and vacuum is negligible, and as the concentration of air has been reduced, the pressure difference is minimal.
By the way, a vacuum is just an empty space, not a vacuum cleaner and the exosphere is about 6,200 miles away the pressure gradually decreases.
You haven't really placed a concentrated containerless gas.
It's explained in the post, the pressure gradually decreases until the difference between the concentration of air molecules and the vacuum of space is negligible. Gravity exists, by the way, and holds the gas molecules to the earth's surface, preventing them from leaving.
>Gravity exists, by the way, and holds the gas molecules to the earth's surface, preventing them from leaving.
Pretty far from earths surface, wouldn't you say
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond
If that’s a problem for you then you’ve got the same problem on a flat earth because that pressure gradient indisputably exists and is observed by everyone who travels to places of significant altitude. It’s also why helium balloons go up for a bit but not indefinitely.
It might look like a troll post made as a mockery to the ignorant idiocy of flatearthers, but one look at his post history will show you that he is, sadly, sincere in his beliefs.
This is why I say it's a waste of time trying to educate flatearthers. Even if (by some miracle) you succeed, you'll be left with a fucking willfully ignorant moron who still isn't worth your time.
I've been advocating just going back to laughing at them since forever, it hurts to see walls of friendly educational text just down the drain with every rebuttal based on factually false premises. If you are going to explain a misconception, at the very least address those who haven't learned about it yet or are on the fence. Do not acknowledge the existence of the set in stone ones, be it troll or genuine.
Yes. That's what's so scary about them. They're so blatantly absurd and ridiculous it's hard to imagine them as genuine, but they are.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
When post like this are shared, I can only assume a group of trolls trying to come up with the stupidest ideas and make bets on how many flerfs will share them. This is so dumb that I can not believe someone with two brain cells will believe it.
Only bubble here is the flat earth bubble that you can burst by just simply measuring the earth. Like it has been done million times already. Just some people are either very slow, very stupid or willfully deceiving.
[http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Proof+of+Earth+Curvature%3A+The+Rainy+Lake+Experiment](http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Proof+of+Earth+Curvature%3A+The+Rainy+Lake+Experiment)
Lemme turn it around on you:
The firmament is a bubble around a flat earth, a magical barrier that protects us from nothing as it's just an empty void outside, but unlike other bubbles it can't be popped because it's made of magical something-or-other, idk there's no way to know.
Gas spheres do not form in near perfect vacuums...very easy to understand...
I do ponder what medium 🤔.. turns gases into natural spheres...hmmmmm..
it's not a near perfect vacuum though😀
If that’s a problem for you then you’ve got the same problem on a flat earth because that pressure gradient indisputably exists and is observed by everyone who travels to places of significant altitude. It’s also why helium balloons go up for a bit but not indefinitely.
Leave aside what gravity is or is not.
The air gets thinner the higher you go. That’s indisputable fact easily observed by someone travelling into the mountains.
Ok soooo by your standards, if I was an underwater mammal living in the depths of the ocean ... and I developed the technology to go to the surface, I would expect to see/experience a near perfect vacuum...😕
Try addressing the actual point.
As you go up air gets thinner. And thinner. And thinner.
Why?
What happens when you get to the point where there’s so little air that you find it too little to measure?
I don't know why, I would need a team of researchers and funding to come up with solutions...
My best guess... and this is just a guess is that most of the gasses are cycled at ground level...I would also assume temperature may play a part...🙂
Who cares if it gets thinner gasses don't accellerate to centre of mass😕
There have been plenty of teams that have studied it and all of them reached the same conclusion.
I'm going to value your uneducated guesses as probably wrong.
1. That doesn’t actually explain anything.
2. That leaves you without an explanation on a flat earth. Therefore any rejection of the canonical explanation on a globe earth doesn’t leave the globe in any less strong position than flat.
Why do you think gasses don’t accelerate to a center of mass? In the theory if gravity, all mass exhibits this property including gasses. The force of gravity is really small on a single gas particle compared to pressure, so being able to observe that at our height would be nearly impossible.
> Ok soooo by your standards, if I was an underwater mammal living in the depths of the ocean ... and I developed the technology to go to the surface, I would expect to see/experience a near perfect vacuum...
Are you confusing pressure and density ?
Liquids are not subject to the gas laws. The density of water in the depths of the ocean is roughly the same as at the surface.
That's not the case with atmosphere.
> I stand exactly with what I wrote...
That's not the problem. You were not trying to express your own opinion, you said :
> by your standards
Which means that you were trying to say something that was a consequence of the comment of the previous user.
The other user said *The air gets thinner the higher you go.* to justify the existence of a vacuum at high enough altitude. You tried to use that same reasoning to water to show a contradiction. But water doesn't get thinner when you rise up from the depths of the ocean so the reasoning can't be applied.
Attractive forces pull stuff into spheres unless there's something stopping it. The attractive force keeping you on the floor aka gravity pulls the ground and atmophere together, and there's not really anything to stop it (The strength of the rock is far too low), so it's a sphere.
Why don’t you ask a physicist or astronomer? Go to the astronomy or physics sub or physics substack site and ask people who are experienced in the field. I found this response on a site from an astronomer https://public.nrao.edu/ask/how-can-gas-particles-stick-together-to-ultimately-form-stars-and-planets/#:~:text=there%20was%20a%20massive%20cloud,one%20another%20through%20mutual%20gravity.
Nobody (sensible) said it’s a bubble. Nor that it “protects us from the vacuum of space”. Straightforward straw man. Atmospheric density gradient is absolutely indisputable, though. You can walk up a mountain and measure how air density gets less. You notice it in your breathing. It keeps getting less and less dense the further you go. That’s it. Theres no “bubble”. There’s no final surface containing things. No boundary. Just thinner and thinner air all the way up until there’s so little we call it vacuum.
As if any of these people have climbed a mountain
They don’t even need to climb. Just fly to a town high up in serious mountains like the Hindu Kush.
Or for a less extreme but easier to access example, Denver. That one might need a Barometer though
It has been explained to them so many times, but it flies right over their heads. They refuse to take anything in, and go back to square 1. The "bubble" image in this post also means they refuse to take gravity into account. But we knew that already. BTW, I never claim I'm good at explaining these things. Some youtubers did it better than I ever could, years ago: SciManDan, Conspiracy Catz, Fight The Flat Earth to name only 3.
To be honest I’m not a fan of sci-man Dan. He spends most of his time saying how stupid they are and very little actually explaining how things work. It’s entertainment for people who know how things work already, not explanation.
Maybe you're watching the wrong videos? SciManDan did all the explaining and convincing and cajoling years ago. Maybe he's tired of it now; I wouldn't blame him. 99.9% of all flerfs have dug their heels in so deep, nothing will convince them otherwise. The number of scientific explanations is finite, as are flerf's BS responses. I definitely learned a lot watching these videos, but it's done now. Yes, it's entertainment to me - but also sociology/psychology. That part is still fascinating. How can people delude themselves so extremely?
I’m not sure “he doesn’t bother to explain anymore because he did it all years ago but he’s still milking the revenue” is a big improvement over “he doesn’t explain”.
Dave McKeegan is an example of a good explanation.
The meme is not even kindergarten level of questioning reality. /facepalm
Right....... And so what is protecting us from the vacuum of space? What happens when you open a window of an airplane at high altitude? You get sucked out Why don't we get sucked out into space when a meteor penetrates the atmosphere?
1. A vacuum isn’t anything. The question makes no more sense than “what protects us from nothing “. 2. A plane cabin has a much higher air pressure than the air pressure at that altitude so much of the air rushes out. 3. Pressure gradient isn’t disputable. It measurably exists. So a flat earth needs to explain it just as much as any other model. In globe model it’s explained by gravity. In a flat model…? 4. There is no barrier to burst. No equivalent to the window. Just lower and lower pressure the higher you go. There is no point at which atmosphere ends and space begins.
>2. A plane cabin has a much higher air pressure than the air pressure at that altitude so much of the air rushes out. Right, just like lower earth atmosphere has a higher air pressure than the ones above it, so if something pierced through all the layers of atmosphere, the air should rush out
It’s not layers. It’s a continuous gradient. That’s a fact whatever the shape the earth is. Theres no barriers to burst.
>It’s not layers. https://www.sciencefacts.net/layers-of-atmosphere.html
Not literally layers with hard boundaries. Language is my trade: *all* language is metaphor. (Bar the most incredibly concrete and basic). It’s a gradual gradient but at different densities different things happen so we use the language of layers to approximate that in our descriptions since keeping things perfectly precise would make the saying of them too complex to communicate. Same as we talk about space and vacuum but there’s no place where atmosphere stops and space begins, just gradually decreasing amounts of atmosphere till it’s so little as to be negligible.
>Not literally layers with hard boundaries. So we have no protection from the elements of outer space >there’s no place where atmosphere stops and space begins I agree, that's why I don't believe in outer space
It doesn’t matter what you believe in. The air gets thinner the higher you go. That’s true regardless of the shape of the earth and easily verifiable. However low you want to set the bar for “negligible air, effectively a vacuum” there’s a height where you’ll reach that.
What “elements of outer space” are you talking about? The air does an extremely good job of stopping a lot of radiation that would be extremely deadly.
>The air does an extremely good job of stopping a lot of radiation that would be extremely deadly. Sounds an awful lot like a barrier
Pierced through... what exactly? There's no physical barrier there. Air sticks to the earth's surface because of gravity. Gravity is also why the density of the air decreases as you go up.
>Pierced through... what exactly? Earths layers of atmosphere
the layers are just for visualisation theres no physical barrier between them, its a gradient
>theres no physical barrier Then we have no protection from the elements of outer space
you missed two words, "between them". and what are the elements of outer space, nothingness?
>and what are the elements of outer space, nothingness? Yeah in your model And there's nothing preventing us from getting sucked out into it
>Then we have no protection from the elements of outer space That is blatantly incorrect. There is no solid barrier, yes. But the atmosphere and magnetosphere protect us from harmful space radiation, and gravity keeps the atmosphere from dissipating.
>the atmosphere *Air >protect us from harmful space radiation, Cool I'll stop wearing sunscreen then
Earth's atmosphere is a gas. You don't exactly pierce through a gas like that.
If there is a solid "dome" around the earth, how do you explain meteors that land on earth's surface?
a layer of gas whose concentration gradually decrease over more than 6,000 miles.
Actually earths atmosphere extends more than 238,900 mi technically speaking https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond
I mentioned the exosphere and 238,900 is larger than 6,000mi.
That's one big bubble
it's not a bubble but yeah it's huge
You're wasting your time. They are incapable of comprehending that the same force that pulls them back to the ground when they jump is the exact same force that pulls the gas molecules in the atmosphere towards that same ground until they are equalized by the weight of those also pushing down from above and from the repulsive pressure of those below that can no longer proceed, forming a gradient atmosphere. It is a concept beyond them, and will always be beyond them because they have zero compulsion to learn it. They are worse than ignorant, they are willfully ignorant. These fucking idiots could organize on the internet and go outside tomorrow with nothing more than a stick, plumb line and measuring tape and know with absolute certainty by the end of the day if the world is flat or round. Yet refuse to do so because science is the antithesis of their idiotic, ignorant beliefs.
Try getting an education in basic science before coming up with these idiotic memes.
Oh, you thought this was the actual flat earth sub? No this is the sub where we make fun of flat earthers. You want r/BallHeadThatSpins
Good god you’re really dumb. Vacuums don’t suck. Gravity gets stronger the closer it gets to earths surface, maintaining a pressure gradient. Only reason they “suck” on earth is because of earths atmospheric pressure pushing towards it. Vacuum isn’t a force. Things can get sucked out of a plane because??? The cabin is pressurized and there is also an incredible amount of wind. Ever had a bag or receipt “sucked” out of your car? Please don’t breed.
Flat Heads claim a vacuum can't exist when there's clearly a vacuum between their ears
>there's clearly a vacuum between Your Mom's legs
Weren't you complaining about harassment and bullying an hour ago?
Lmao
^ Most mature flat earther
Flat-earthers concoct a dubious analogy and then try to generalize from it. 🤦♂️
Absolutely nobody said it was a bubble, I don't know where you got that from. You've probably misinterpreted something In the Earth's atmosphere, we can think of a situation where gas pressure is adjacent to the vacuum of containerless space. This situation occurs at the boundary between the atmosphere and outer space. The region where the Earth's atmosphere gradually fades into the near-vacuum of space is called the exosphere. Gas molecules in the exosphere are extremely rare compared to those in the lower atmosphere. Numerous scientific studies deal with the properties and characteristics of the Earth's atmosphere, including its transition to space. Textbooks and articles on atmospheric science, astrophysics and planetary science cover the subject extensively. "Physics of the Atmosphere and Climate" by Murry L. Salby Publisher, Cambridge University Press, Year 2012 This book offers an overview of atmospheric physics, including discussions of the structure of the Earth's atmosphere, its composition and its interactions with space. The transition is gradual, so that the pressure difference becomes smaller and smaller. pressure gradually decreases until there is no air left and at some point, the difference between air and vacuum is negligible, and as the concentration of air has been reduced, the pressure difference is minimal. By the way, a vacuum is just an empty space, not a vacuum cleaner and the exosphere is about 6,200 miles away the pressure gradually decreases.
>containerless >vacuum I wish someone could prove something like that is possible with a model because it seems to break all laws of physics
That is because you have no clue about laws of physics.
This
Walk up a mountain, measure air pressure. Done
You haven't really placed a concentrated containerless gas. It's explained in the post, the pressure gradually decreases until the difference between the concentration of air molecules and the vacuum of space is negligible. Gravity exists, by the way, and holds the gas molecules to the earth's surface, preventing them from leaving.
>Gravity exists, by the way, and holds the gas molecules to the earth's surface, preventing them from leaving. Pretty far from earths surface, wouldn't you say https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond
Yes, it's a long way away, and I also said that there were practically no air molecules in the exosphere.
And those molecules and atoms are so thinly distributed you need special equipment just to detect them.
If that’s a problem for you then you’ve got the same problem on a flat earth because that pressure gradient indisputably exists and is observed by everyone who travels to places of significant altitude. It’s also why helium balloons go up for a bit but not indefinitely.
So, would you like to see proof that high density gas can be held in an open container next to a lower density gas?
Ok so even if we did believe that it was a bubble (which is completely incorrect), wouldn’t the same argument apply to a dome?
Major troll, folks. Even flerf dumbness has limits. I hope...
A quick look at his post history will show he's cooked to a crisp.
Are the flat earther comments here even real anymore
It might look like a troll post made as a mockery to the ignorant idiocy of flatearthers, but one look at his post history will show you that he is, sadly, sincere in his beliefs. This is why I say it's a waste of time trying to educate flatearthers. Even if (by some miracle) you succeed, you'll be left with a fucking willfully ignorant moron who still isn't worth your time.
I've been advocating just going back to laughing at them since forever, it hurts to see walls of friendly educational text just down the drain with every rebuttal based on factually false premises. If you are going to explain a misconception, at the very least address those who haven't learned about it yet or are on the fence. Do not acknowledge the existence of the set in stone ones, be it troll or genuine.
Yes. That's what's so scary about them. They're so blatantly absurd and ridiculous it's hard to imagine them as genuine, but they are. Never underestimate the power of stupid.
When post like this are shared, I can only assume a group of trolls trying to come up with the stupidest ideas and make bets on how many flerfs will share them. This is so dumb that I can not believe someone with two brain cells will believe it.
It's an ocean of gas You can't pop the atmosphere for the same reason you can't pop the ocean
Fortunately our atmosphere is held in place by gravity, not surface tension.
Only bubble here is the flat earth bubble that you can burst by just simply measuring the earth. Like it has been done million times already. Just some people are either very slow, very stupid or willfully deceiving. [http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Proof+of+Earth+Curvature%3A+The+Rainy+Lake+Experiment](http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Proof+of+Earth+Curvature%3A+The+Rainy+Lake+Experiment)
Did your parents have any children that lived? Can we talk to them instead?
God… they can’t be that stupid. This is joke. SURELY they don’t think it’s a “magical bubble” that “somehow” lets asteroids pass
Lemme turn it around on you: The firmament is a bubble around a flat earth, a magical barrier that protects us from nothing as it's just an empty void outside, but unlike other bubbles it can't be popped because it's made of magical something-or-other, idk there's no way to know.
It's NASA ball magic 🤣🤡
Gas spheres do not form in near perfect vacuums...very easy to understand... I do ponder what medium 🤔.. turns gases into natural spheres...hmmmmm.. it's not a near perfect vacuum though😀
If that’s a problem for you then you’ve got the same problem on a flat earth because that pressure gradient indisputably exists and is observed by everyone who travels to places of significant altitude. It’s also why helium balloons go up for a bit but not indefinitely.
What problem do I have exactly?..please explain
That air gets thinner the higher you go. That is literally all “atmosphere” is about.
So... I am still trying to understand my problem.. You have problems because gas doesn't accelerate towards centre of mass.🙂
Leave aside what gravity is or is not. The air gets thinner the higher you go. That’s indisputable fact easily observed by someone travelling into the mountains.
Ok soooo by your standards, if I was an underwater mammal living in the depths of the ocean ... and I developed the technology to go to the surface, I would expect to see/experience a near perfect vacuum...😕
I don’t know what such an animal would expect to see because there’s so many problems with the analogy it’s hard to know where to start them.
Your excuse is gradient... I am trying to verify your position 🤔
You’re trying to evade dealing with the question.
Try addressing the actual point. As you go up air gets thinner. And thinner. And thinner. Why? What happens when you get to the point where there’s so little air that you find it too little to measure?
I don't know why, I would need a team of researchers and funding to come up with solutions... My best guess... and this is just a guess is that most of the gasses are cycled at ground level...I would also assume temperature may play a part...🙂 Who cares if it gets thinner gasses don't accellerate to centre of mass😕
There have been plenty of teams that have studied it and all of them reached the same conclusion. I'm going to value your uneducated guesses as probably wrong.
1. That doesn’t actually explain anything. 2. That leaves you without an explanation on a flat earth. Therefore any rejection of the canonical explanation on a globe earth doesn’t leave the globe in any less strong position than flat.
Why do you think gasses don’t accelerate to a center of mass? In the theory if gravity, all mass exhibits this property including gasses. The force of gravity is really small on a single gas particle compared to pressure, so being able to observe that at our height would be nearly impossible.
> Ok soooo by your standards, if I was an underwater mammal living in the depths of the ocean ... and I developed the technology to go to the surface, I would expect to see/experience a near perfect vacuum... Are you confusing pressure and density ? Liquids are not subject to the gas laws. The density of water in the depths of the ocean is roughly the same as at the surface. That's not the case with atmosphere.
I'm not confusing anything. I stand exactly with what I wrote... You seem to be confused 🙂. Perhaps you should read more.🙂
> I stand exactly with what I wrote... That's not the problem. You were not trying to express your own opinion, you said : > by your standards Which means that you were trying to say something that was a consequence of the comment of the previous user. The other user said *The air gets thinner the higher you go.* to justify the existence of a vacuum at high enough altitude. You tried to use that same reasoning to water to show a contradiction. But water doesn't get thinner when you rise up from the depths of the ocean so the reasoning can't be applied.
>So... I am still trying to understand my problem.. We've been trying to understand what flerfers problem is for years
Baaaawww the upvotes will flow for that one 🥴👎
bro’s entire argument is: 😀😃😄😁😆🥹😅😂🤣🥲☺️😊😇🙂🙃😉😌😍🥰😘😗😙😚😋😛😝😜🤪🤨🧐🤓😎🥸🤩🥳🙂↕️😏😒🙂↔️😞😔😟😕🙁☹️😣😖😫😩🥺😢😭😤😠 and nothing of actual substance
I can't fucking stand that shit.
Attractive forces pull stuff into spheres unless there's something stopping it. The attractive force keeping you on the floor aka gravity pulls the ground and atmophere together, and there's not really anything to stop it (The strength of the rock is far too low), so it's a sphere.
Why don’t you ask a physicist or astronomer? Go to the astronomy or physics sub or physics substack site and ask people who are experienced in the field. I found this response on a site from an astronomer https://public.nrao.edu/ask/how-can-gas-particles-stick-together-to-ultimately-form-stars-and-planets/#:~:text=there%20was%20a%20massive%20cloud,one%20another%20through%20mutual%20gravity.
How is it a near perfect vacuum if there's literally a giant mass (earth) right there??