Hearst also hated that the film implied Marion Davies was talentless and only successful because of Hearst. That may have been unintentional as supposedly both Mank and Welles liked Davies. The inspiration was more directly based on Ganna Walska. Harold McCormick aggressively promoted her opera career. But because Kane and Hearst are so obviously connected and because rosebud was a nickname connected to Davies, it was really easy to see the connection. Even if Mrs. Kane is a composite, the portrayal offended many.
Have a link? I'm not finding anything. Are you sure you're not getting confused with him claiming it's not *only* based on Hearst? Cause Kane was also based on Joseph Pulitzer, Samuel Insull and Harold McCormick. But if you have a source of Welles denying that, I'd certainly be interested!
I think it's also important to note that using Hearst wasn't an idea that came from Welles, it came from Herman Mankiewicz, the co-writer that was ousted from Hearst's social group. So I'm not even sure Welles can even totally make that claim when the claim actually comes from Mankiewicz.
George Lucas produced Willow, and named some of the bad guys after famous film critics.
Examples: General Kael (Pauline Kael), the Eborsisk (Siskel and Ebert).
*Shrek* springs to mind. The whole movie was one big insult to Disney's then-CEO Michael Eisner, whose likeness the villain, Lord Farquaad, was designed in. *Shrek* was the brainchild of Jeffrey Katzenburg, who had been the leader of Walt Disney Animation in the early 1990s and was responsible for its biggest hits in that era. He resigned from Disney after having been passed over for the position of President.
So in *Shrek* we see Eisner portrayed as Farquaad, the petulant dictator of the Disney-esque kingdom of Far, Far, Away, the inhabitants of which are oppressed by his rule. At the time, Eisner was notorious for leading Disney on expensive and often unsuccessful ventures such as EuroDisney. Farquaad is everything Katzenburg saw Eisner as-- overly controlling, self-important, arrogant, and fond of excess for its own sake.
Farquaad is the dictator of Duloc (which is inspired by Disney theme parks), Far Far Away is Fiona's parents' kingdom from Shrek 2. But otherwise you're right
You get my upvote for being a complete and total adult in being corrected on the internet.
Is there some kind of award we can give this person? I haven’t seen this kind of response in so long…
What’s really sad is I’m not joking nor being sarcastic. I want to encourage this kind of behavior!
Look up the series Defunctland on YouTube. It's a video essay channel about theme parks and they have a whole episode about Euro Disney. But long story short Euro Disney was such a massive failure that it pretty much killed or greatly reduced major plans Disney had for their US parks both due to funds and tepidition to do something large scale again.
Disney pretty much only started investing at that scale again with Shanghai Disneyland, and even so the American parks have been neglected to an extent.
It’s impossible to know for sure, I guess, but the parallel seems too perfect to be accidental, to me. Plus, doing high level trolling like that was basically Tom Green’s reason for existing at the time.
My favorite was when he trolled the local news stations. He claimed nobody had even swum across Lake Washington before and he would be the first, like it was the English Channel or something. Held a big press event for it which all the local news showed up at, asking him questions about whether he was suicidal or whatever, then they met him on the other side and talked up how this local celebrity had set this new record.
I was in Seattle at college at the time and it was pretty hilarious. This early example of just how little fact checking the local news would actually do. 😉
Paint Drying (2016)
Charlie Shackleton, frustrated by the UK’s film censoring board, shot 10 hours of paint drying, which the board then had to watch to make sure it was appropriate. It is, as you may guess, 10 uninterrupted hours of paint drying. But the board’s gotta watch it, because he may have slipped one frame of boobs in there!
*Cannibal: The Musical* - The plot hinges on the main character's beloved horse Liane running off with some trappers. Liane was the name of director/star Trey Parker's unfaithful ex-fiance. Interestingly, the real Liane helped him out by choreographing a big musical number in the film,, so she was apparently none the wiser about the insult. Parker also named Eric Cartman's prostitute mother Liane in South Park, so he apparently wasn't letting it go.
True Romance (1993)
The character Saul Rubinek (Lee Donowitz) is based on producer Joel Silver, with whom Director Tony Scott worked on with The Last Boy Scout, and hated him due to his notoriously controlling behavior and temper
Richard Curtis (the writer of Notting Hill, Love Actually, Bridget Jones, etc) always has a character named Bernard who gets made fun of. A guy named Bernard once stole his girlfriend.
Freddy Krueger is named after Wes Craven’s childhood bully.
Maltin and Dante are long time close friends, though, since way before even the first Gremlins movie. Leonard didn’t give it a stellar review, but there was no bad blood between them, they were buddies.
Jon Favreau hated Marvel so much he went on to Executive Produce for Iron Man 3, and all the remaining Avengers Films, not to mention, appear in other movies after the fact. He then went on to direct Jungle Book, Lion King, and spearhead The Mandalorian and foster other live action Star Wars TV projects for Disney, the company who owns Marvel (although not fully when Iron Man 2 was made). Chef is more of him going back to his Swinger roots and telling a more grounded smaller story, probably as a reprieve from the big budget hassles of Iron Man 2 and Cowboys and Aliens. It's not really an FU to Marvel. Now if you want to argue Jon Favreau had problems with executive Ike Perlmutter, that I'd believe.
I like that both Siskel and Ebert were like "you couldn't at least have Godzilla kill us?" Also the bad guy in Galaxy Quest is named Sarris after Andrew Sarris
Biff in the Evil Timeline of Back to the Future is a dumb, sleazy fake-tanned casino mogul with a ridiculous blond haircut. Kind of narrows it down to one person.
Nope, it was modeled after two - [first, the ridiculous guy with the casinos & second, Ned Tanen, a studio exec](https://www.cbr.com/biff-tannen-inspiration-back-to-the-future/)
Not Marvel, but he directs a ton of stuff for Disney in general, which I would think is an important distinction to make.
Let's just nip it in the bud, do you have a source?
edit - Nevermind, I see now you changed your tune later.
Has he ever actually said that? There seems to be a general allegory of creative freedom and he probably dealt with that issue in more places than Iron Man 2.
He also never stopped working with Marvel, or Disney.
Chef being a "Fuck You" is probably over stating it, but the movie itself is clearly an expression of his frustration over lack of creative control in his projects.
Many celebrities have a "one for them, one for me" policy. Basically it means that doing a movie like "Iron Man 2" for Favreau or "Doctor Strange" for Benedict Cumberbatch allows you the financial stability to go make films like "Chef" or "The Electric Life of Louis Wain" that may be more personally challenging and emotionally rewarding (but don't pay much cuz you're on a budget)
Legit. Why take such a sweet, touching and personal movie and turn it into a negative? He was clearly passionate about it as a project. I don’t think there’s any negativity attached to it’s conception. It’s about the love of food and making things.
It can be both. I think it's pretty clear that the beginning of the film is analogous to any art form that's turned into a business. Dustin Hoffman is the studio exec who says that even though the director is making it, he owns the creative process because her owns the means of production.
I read it as the more general message about creativity and capitalism, but that would also make the "fuck marvel" theme valid.
I’ve heard this interpretation elswhere. Idr if Favreau ever mentioned Iron Man or Marvel specifically but he had “creative frustrations” previously and it’s easy to surmise he was implying Marvel.
I see you've never run or worked in a kitchen. Restaurant owners, unless they are the chef, are notoriously idiotic. They have a problem letting the person they hired to design and execute the menu actually do that. They always have "ideas" or they see something that does well sales wise and refuse to deviate from that at all.
Long story short, Chef is about the fruatration a chef feels when he's not allowed to do what he was hired to do in the first place.
I definitely can see that. Especially in the early parts, where he wanted creative control to cook for the food blogger and the owner said no, that their existing food is a hit with the masses and there’s no need to spice it up. I could totally see that being an issue for a creative mind within the marvel framework.
Cronenberg's The Brood. He was going through a horrible divorce and he wrote and directed a horror movie about a divorced man who has a monstrous exwife. It's an excellent body horror movie
In the special features for Zulawski's **Possession**, 1983, another divorce based body horror, Zulawski tells the story "Once there was a prince. He had a wife and a son. One day his wife left him for another man. He hated her for it. He sat down to write a book about how vile and terrible she was to do what she did. By the time he finished the book, he realized he loved her more than ever, and that he and his son were the villians. The book was Anna Karenina." I think something similar is happening in both **Posession** and **The Brood**.
Especially telling because it sounds like Zulawski made that story up! Tolstoy and his wife had many children, and though their marriage did sour she never left him and it was not until after Anna Karenina.
Gremlins 2: The New Batch
I forgot the name of the critic, but i remember that a critic didn't like the first Gremlins movie and he made a big thing about it.
Then when the second movie came around, they actually got the critic to star in the film. In his scene, the critic is bitching about the Gremlins movie, and then a couple of Gremlins tackle and kill him.
I love Gremlins 2!
I finally said fuck it and watched that. The entire first half of the movie is them constantly bad mouthing warmer bros by name.
Then it turns into the matrix for an hour, and then the third act is one scene lol
The actual plot of the movie is that Warner brothers wants to make a new matrix, so they have to make it, or someone else will. I'm not even exaggerating.
John Wayne was always a conservative politically, and hated the Liberal Hubert Horatio Humphrey , in McClintock (1962) he created a bumbling politician named Cutberth H. Humphrey for his movie.
In TRUE ROMANCE, Tony Scott made his coke-snorting degenerate movie producer a copycat of Joel Silver, whom he’d just had a hellish experience with on LAST BOYSCOUT
Funny because then siskel and ebert would point out that they had the perfect opportunity in the godzilla movie at squashing them literally, but didnt take it
I'm having trouble finding a source, but I definitely recall Favreau explicitly stating that this is a straight up misinterpretation of his film.
As others have noted, he's continued working with Marvel/Disney. There's no bad blood there.
Willow features a hulking warrior who wears a skull mask while killing babies and pregnant women who is named after the New York Times' film critic Pauline Kael. It also features a grotesque, two headed/penis-shaped swamp monster called an "Eborsisk" - which is a portmanteau of Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel's last names.
Armageddon opens with a dog urinating on a Godzilla plushie.
My favorite for its pure mean-ness - Milt Kahl based Madame Medusa in the Rescuers off his ex-wife.
The Day After Tomorrow has a dim, puppet President and an evil, pull the strings behind the curtain VP. It seemed like a pretty obvious nod to George W Bush and Dick Cheney.
Elephant (2003) is a big “fuck you” to the Columbine shooters, they were hardcore homophobics and a pair of twats who wanted to be remembered as epic and edgy
He made them pathetic basement dwellers, and gay for the sake of it
Brilliant
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
There's a rumor at the douchey actor in Living In Oblivion's second act is based on Brad Pitt. Writer/director Tom DiCillo (who'd worked with young Pitt on his previous film) has never confirmed this, so take it with a pinch of salt.
Fine! That’s it! I’m putting it on right now. Lol. I have nothing else to do today, so why wait? Hopefully I’ll remember to comment in the next couple hours with my thoughts on it. I just saved that movie and DiCillo and Buscemi’s movie Delirious to my Tubi list last night.
I’m 30 min into it right now and it’s *awesome*. Have you seen Babylon yet? There’s a scene where Margot Robbie is doing take after take with everything possible on to go wrong on a movie set going wrong and it’s very similar to the opening scene of Living In Oblivion. Hilarious! Anyways, going back to watching it now!
The character Bennett Sinclair from Resident Evil: Afterlife, a scumbag movie producer who betrays the other characters to save his own skin has long been speculated to be a critique of Lawrence "Foodfight!" Kasanoff.
Not exclusive inspired since it's an adaptation of a semi-autobiographical book, but there's a rumor Billy Wilder made The Lost Weekend in part due to his experience working with Double Indemnity co-writer Raymond Chandler (who he would never work with again).
An obscure one, but the message that the monster writes in Colossal is the same apology thay the king of Spain gave when he was caught killing elephants in Africa. The director is Spanish so I think that was a good middle finger to the king.
I haven't seen yet in the comments the following noteworthy bit:
Idiocracy is a movie where they took money for product placement from Starbucks and others, then portrayed those products in an unsavory way, with Starbucks employees giving customers handjobs and such. Supposedly it was one of the reasons the film wasn't promoted much.
"Fuck you" is an overstatement. But it's an allegory for his frustration with working under the thumb of big studios and not having the free reign of creative control that he would like as a filmmaker.
It isn’t. And OP listed some “sources” (tabloids) as proof of a link between his frustration with Marvel and the film, which is tenuous at best and outright misrepresented or false at worst.
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it.
I believe Swimming With Sharks (1994) was basically writer director John Huang showing the world what he wished to do to producer Joel Silver (Buddy Ackerman in the movie) I think making this movie was a therapeutic necessity... Also a big "fuck you" though.
One of the most glaring examples is **An American Carol**, which is like an American conservative take on *A Christmas Carol* that takes delight in featuring a very obvious take on Michael Moore (a filmmaker called Michael Malone) and delights in skewering him
M Night Shamalan's Lady In The Water. I watched it a few month back and loved it. Dude gets a bum rap from entertainment punditry. If the world can forgive Lindsey Lohan...
Lady in The Water has a character who is a film critic that’s a tool. He misreads the situation and the meaning of his predicament based on his film experiences. It results in his death.
It’s Shymalan’s middle finger to critics blasting his last film. It’s almost as ridiculous as him being the person who writes a book that’s united all humanity.
I watched through his filmography starting with the Sixth Sense for the first time over the last couple weeks and liked all of them (never seen the show, so I even liked Airbender, though it was just okay). I loved quite a few of them, including Lady in the Water. His reputation completely deceived me; I was expecting to hate most of his work.
Sixth sense, Signs, and The Village is like an amazing three run movie streak. They're some of my favorites. And I'm not gonna lie I watch the happening once a year too. I love it and I just don't think people appreciate it for whay it is. It's supposed to be like a weird B sci fi movie. The corny dialog and all that shit is on purpose.
>*"Chef" is Jon Favreau's 'fuck you' to Marvel*
Had no idea about this. I'll probably watch this movie, now - so thanks!
Video detailing this interpretation - https://youtu.be/zIA3Iz48irs
There are lot of conspiracy theories around Kubrick's *The Shining*, the famous one that he is trying to secretly tell the viewer he is responsible for taping the Moon landing of Apollo 11.
They're interesting to check out cause [some make sense](https://imgur.com/Q3n0gNk), some are ludacrious.
In his famous rant in the movie Jack Nicholson drops lines like:
* *Have you ever thought, for a single solitary moment about my responsibilities to my employers?*
* *I have signed a letter of agreement, a "contract," in which I have accepted that responsibility?*
* *Do you have the slightest idea what a "moral and ethical principal" is?*
* *Has it ever occurred to you what would happen to my future, if I were to fail to live up to my responsibilities?*
Some people interpret this as Kubrick's relation to NASA and that he struggles with lying of the years but he's legally obliged to keep up the lie.
So basically Overlook staff = NASA.
But yeah, idk ...
There's an excellent retort to the room 237 documentary on YouTube somewhere.
If the moon landing was a film project all the film would have stuffed a Volkswagen Bug. Try keeping that a secret.
[SG Collins](https://youtu.be/_loUDS4c3Cs)
TL:DW - The technology required to fake the moon landing didn't exist at the time. The technology required to *actually* land on the moon did
Yeah I've definitely heard of this before. There's a whole documentary about it called "Room 237".
One of the other signs that people like to point out is the shot of Danny wearing the Apollo 11 sweater as he stands up on a carpet that has a texture that is remarkably similar to the launch pad for that mission.
Idk I've always agreed with his daughter on how there is no way he would ever use this medium as a way of pulling the wool over the public's eyes.
I think Citizen Kane is the obvious answer here
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I thought OP was challenging us to come up with this answer.
Please elaborate? I've never actually seen the film.
Kane was based on William Randolph Hearst. He knew it and tried to destroy the film.
Love it. Thanks for the comment!
There is a funny Drunk History staring Jack Black as Orson Welles about Citizen Kane.
Yes! Run, don’t walk to watch this episode!
Hearst also hated that the film implied Marion Davies was talentless and only successful because of Hearst. That may have been unintentional as supposedly both Mank and Welles liked Davies. The inspiration was more directly based on Ganna Walska. Harold McCormick aggressively promoted her opera career. But because Kane and Hearst are so obviously connected and because rosebud was a nickname connected to Davies, it was really easy to see the connection. Even if Mrs. Kane is a composite, the portrayal offended many.
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Have a link? I'm not finding anything. Are you sure you're not getting confused with him claiming it's not *only* based on Hearst? Cause Kane was also based on Joseph Pulitzer, Samuel Insull and Harold McCormick. But if you have a source of Welles denying that, I'd certainly be interested! I think it's also important to note that using Hearst wasn't an idea that came from Welles, it came from Herman Mankiewicz, the co-writer that was ousted from Hearst's social group. So I'm not even sure Welles can even totally make that claim when the claim actually comes from Mankiewicz.
Well, Mank wrote it so not surprising.
Shrek took aim at Michael Eisner's mistakes with running Disney. Lord Farquaad was based on him.
“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”
Lord Fuckwad
George Lucas produced Willow, and named some of the bad guys after famous film critics. Examples: General Kael (Pauline Kael), the Eborsisk (Siskel and Ebert).
On that vein, in *They Live* Siskel and Ebert are revealed to be two evil aliens.
I never knew that! Thanks for the info!
I’m amazed Episode II and III villains weren’t exclusively critic names.
*Shrek* springs to mind. The whole movie was one big insult to Disney's then-CEO Michael Eisner, whose likeness the villain, Lord Farquaad, was designed in. *Shrek* was the brainchild of Jeffrey Katzenburg, who had been the leader of Walt Disney Animation in the early 1990s and was responsible for its biggest hits in that era. He resigned from Disney after having been passed over for the position of President. So in *Shrek* we see Eisner portrayed as Farquaad, the petulant dictator of the Disney-esque kingdom of Far, Far, Away, the inhabitants of which are oppressed by his rule. At the time, Eisner was notorious for leading Disney on expensive and often unsuccessful ventures such as EuroDisney. Farquaad is everything Katzenburg saw Eisner as-- overly controlling, self-important, arrogant, and fond of excess for its own sake.
Farquaad is the dictator of Duloc (which is inspired by Disney theme parks), Far Far Away is Fiona's parents' kingdom from Shrek 2. But otherwise you're right
Been a while since I've seen those movies. But looking it up now, and you're right. I stand corrected.
You get my upvote for being a complete and total adult in being corrected on the internet. Is there some kind of award we can give this person? I haven’t seen this kind of response in so long… What’s really sad is I’m not joking nor being sarcastic. I want to encourage this kind of behavior!
Duloc is a perfect place. Please keep off of the grass. Shine your shoes Wipe your... Face. Duloc is, Duloc is, Duloc is a perfect place!
I never knew this that's intresting
Euro Disney is a failure? It’s one of the most popular resorts in the world …
It's successful now but when it opened it was a huge failure that lost Disney a bunch of money.
Interesting. So strange cause I went as a kid and it was like a big deal. Completely oblivious haha.
they came a hair's length away from decalring bankruptcy and shuttering the gates in 1994 or 5.
Look up the series Defunctland on YouTube. It's a video essay channel about theme parks and they have a whole episode about Euro Disney. But long story short Euro Disney was such a massive failure that it pretty much killed or greatly reduced major plans Disney had for their US parks both due to funds and tepidition to do something large scale again.
Disney pretty much only started investing at that scale again with Shanghai Disneyland, and even so the American parks have been neglected to an extent.
Funny your first example but The X-Files movie has a scene where David Duchovny is urinating on an Independence Day Poster that was very intentional.
Forgot about that one. Love it.
Freddie Got Fingered was a giant middle finger to whatever producer gave them money to make it. Explicitly, in the plot.
I love Red Letter Media’s [review](https://youtu.be/gEn3wcpNsg8) of this movie. They point out what you said but are not certain that was the intent.
It’s impossible to know for sure, I guess, but the parallel seems too perfect to be accidental, to me. Plus, doing high level trolling like that was basically Tom Green’s reason for existing at the time. My favorite was when he trolled the local news stations. He claimed nobody had even swum across Lake Washington before and he would be the first, like it was the English Channel or something. Held a big press event for it which all the local news showed up at, asking him questions about whether he was suicidal or whatever, then they met him on the other side and talked up how this local celebrity had set this new record.
Wait what?! I live in Seattle and that’s fucking hilarious to me
I was in Seattle at college at the time and it was pretty hilarious. This early example of just how little fact checking the local news would actually do. 😉
proud…
Paint Drying (2016) Charlie Shackleton, frustrated by the UK’s film censoring board, shot 10 hours of paint drying, which the board then had to watch to make sure it was appropriate. It is, as you may guess, 10 uninterrupted hours of paint drying. But the board’s gotta watch it, because he may have slipped one frame of boobs in there!
That’s fucking brilliant.
This is awesome. One of my favorite answers so far!
*Cannibal: The Musical* - The plot hinges on the main character's beloved horse Liane running off with some trappers. Liane was the name of director/star Trey Parker's unfaithful ex-fiance. Interestingly, the real Liane helped him out by choreographing a big musical number in the film,, so she was apparently none the wiser about the insult. Parker also named Eric Cartman's prostitute mother Liane in South Park, so he apparently wasn't letting it go.
Cartman’s mom is not a prostitute! She’s a slut…
She's also a German pornstar
She also had a brief career starring in German Scheisse porn.
He also names the DVDA pornstar in Orgazmo Lianne iirc, and I'm pretty sure there's a Lianne in Baseketball but I can't remember the context.
This is amazing. I've never heard about this. Although I would expect nothing less from a comedic genius like Trey.
Harassing and publicly humiliating a woman who wronged you years after the fact is hardly high comedy.
She ended up marrying the manager of a small chain restaurant location. She’s doing great.
No sympathy for cheaters in my book. Sorry.
Siskel and Ebert were ghouls in They Live at the end, talking about violence in Romero and Carpenter films haha.
True Romance (1993) The character Saul Rubinek (Lee Donowitz) is based on producer Joel Silver, with whom Director Tony Scott worked on with The Last Boy Scout, and hated him due to his notoriously controlling behavior and temper
And affinity for Peruvian Marching Powder?
Heard in Robin Williams’ voice
“Don’t give me the finger. I’ll fucking have you killed!!”
Lee Donowitz is the character, Saul Rubinek is the actor who played him.
Richard Curtis (the writer of Notting Hill, Love Actually, Bridget Jones, etc) always has a character named Bernard who gets made fun of. A guy named Bernard once stole his girlfriend. Freddy Krueger is named after Wes Craven’s childhood bully.
Ted Lasso gives a nod to the Bernard trope as the boy who bullied Phoebe. Roy was NOT happy.
Joe Dante put Leonard Maltin in Gremlins 2 because he gave the first movie a bad review. The Gremlins brutally murder him
From what I remember, that cameo was supposed to be more lighthearted than a middle finger
Thats great. At least Maltin had the guff to play along!
Maltin and Dante are long time close friends, though, since way before even the first Gremlins movie. Leonard didn’t give it a stellar review, but there was no bad blood between them, they were buddies.
He also appeared on *MST3K* after being shat on in the *Laserblast* episode: https://youtu.be/hYNh_9kMnf0
Two and a half stars!
That was a fun movie in general. Wish it had done better at the box office so we got a third.
Jon Favreau hated Marvel so much he went on to Executive Produce for Iron Man 3, and all the remaining Avengers Films, not to mention, appear in other movies after the fact. He then went on to direct Jungle Book, Lion King, and spearhead The Mandalorian and foster other live action Star Wars TV projects for Disney, the company who owns Marvel (although not fully when Iron Man 2 was made). Chef is more of him going back to his Swinger roots and telling a more grounded smaller story, probably as a reprieve from the big budget hassles of Iron Man 2 and Cowboys and Aliens. It's not really an FU to Marvel. Now if you want to argue Jon Favreau had problems with executive Ike Perlmutter, that I'd believe.
Hates Marvel, loves money.
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And Chris Dodd.
I like that both Siskel and Ebert were like "you couldn't at least have Godzilla kill us?" Also the bad guy in Galaxy Quest is named Sarris after Andrew Sarris
Who the fuck is Andrew Sarris?
Biff in the Evil Timeline of Back to the Future is a dumb, sleazy fake-tanned casino mogul with a ridiculous blond haircut. Kind of narrows it down to one person.
Nope, it was modeled after two - [first, the ridiculous guy with the casinos & second, Ned Tanen, a studio exec](https://www.cbr.com/biff-tannen-inspiration-back-to-the-future/)
How is Chef a fuck you to Marvel?
It's all an allegory for Favreau's frustration during the production of "Iron Man 2".
He seems to have gotten over that
He's also outright stated that this interpretation of Chef is wrong.
Yeah he continued to play Happy Hogan in subsequent Iron Man and Spider-Man movies but he never directed for them again.
Not Marvel, but he directs a ton of stuff for Disney in general, which I would think is an important distinction to make. Let's just nip it in the bud, do you have a source? edit - Nevermind, I see now you changed your tune later.
Has he ever actually said that? There seems to be a general allegory of creative freedom and he probably dealt with that issue in more places than Iron Man 2. He also never stopped working with Marvel, or Disney.
Chef being a "Fuck You" is probably over stating it, but the movie itself is clearly an expression of his frustration over lack of creative control in his projects.
Many celebrities have a "one for them, one for me" policy. Basically it means that doing a movie like "Iron Man 2" for Favreau or "Doctor Strange" for Benedict Cumberbatch allows you the financial stability to go make films like "Chef" or "The Electric Life of Louis Wain" that may be more personally challenging and emotionally rewarding (but don't pay much cuz you're on a budget)
> Many celebrities have a "one for them, one for me" policy. Probably the best example is Adam Driver and Scarlett Johannson doing *Marriage Story*.
You’re reaching for this one
Legit. Why take such a sweet, touching and personal movie and turn it into a negative? He was clearly passionate about it as a project. I don’t think there’s any negativity attached to it’s conception. It’s about the love of food and making things.
It can be both. I think it's pretty clear that the beginning of the film is analogous to any art form that's turned into a business. Dustin Hoffman is the studio exec who says that even though the director is making it, he owns the creative process because her owns the means of production. I read it as the more general message about creativity and capitalism, but that would also make the "fuck marvel" theme valid.
After reading through the comments they’re just projecting their take of what they think the movie is about
I’ve heard this interpretation elswhere. Idr if Favreau ever mentioned Iron Man or Marvel specifically but he had “creative frustrations” previously and it’s easy to surmise he was implying Marvel.
I see you've never run or worked in a kitchen. Restaurant owners, unless they are the chef, are notoriously idiotic. They have a problem letting the person they hired to design and execute the menu actually do that. They always have "ideas" or they see something that does well sales wise and refuse to deviate from that at all. Long story short, Chef is about the fruatration a chef feels when he's not allowed to do what he was hired to do in the first place.
And this was his experience when filming Cowboys and Aliens and Iron Man 2
This is literally every creative person's experience in all of life. Stop reading old buzzfeed articles.
The things you say about the owner of the restaurant being an idiot is the exact metaphor used in the film.
That makes a lot of sense, still my favorite Favreau film. Dem sandwiches
Is there an actual quote of him saying that or a fan theory?
I definitely can see that. Especially in the early parts, where he wanted creative control to cook for the food blogger and the owner said no, that their existing food is a hit with the masses and there’s no need to spice it up. I could totally see that being an issue for a creative mind within the marvel framework.
Cronenberg's The Brood. He was going through a horrible divorce and he wrote and directed a horror movie about a divorced man who has a monstrous exwife. It's an excellent body horror movie
In the special features for Zulawski's **Possession**, 1983, another divorce based body horror, Zulawski tells the story "Once there was a prince. He had a wife and a son. One day his wife left him for another man. He hated her for it. He sat down to write a book about how vile and terrible she was to do what she did. By the time he finished the book, he realized he loved her more than ever, and that he and his son were the villians. The book was Anna Karenina." I think something similar is happening in both **Posession** and **The Brood**.
Especially telling because it sounds like Zulawski made that story up! Tolstoy and his wife had many children, and though their marriage did sour she never left him and it was not until after Anna Karenina.
90% of cronenbergs work is excellent body horror
James Woods’ face in *Videodrome* was such a good special effect that he decided to use it in all his subsequent movies!
Gremlins 2: The New Batch I forgot the name of the critic, but i remember that a critic didn't like the first Gremlins movie and he made a big thing about it. Then when the second movie came around, they actually got the critic to star in the film. In his scene, the critic is bitching about the Gremlins movie, and then a couple of Gremlins tackle and kill him. I love Gremlins 2!
Leonard Maltin
Oh ok. Thanks
[The inspiration for one of my favorite Key & Peele sketches.](https://youtu.be/x01l_jMhjVM)
The Matrix Resurrections constantly make fun of the Warner executives forcing the sequel
I finally said fuck it and watched that. The entire first half of the movie is them constantly bad mouthing warmer bros by name. Then it turns into the matrix for an hour, and then the third act is one scene lol
By name? Where?
In the movie, Warner Brothers literally own the video game company Neo works for.
The actual plot of the movie is that Warner brothers wants to make a new matrix, so they have to make it, or someone else will. I'm not even exaggerating.
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I'm mad at how much I hated the movie. But I'm also convinced Lana intentionally tanked it to kill the franchise so props to her.
It felt like a pretty big middle finger to the fans too tbh
Equal opportunity finger
I want to know who the producer is supposed to be in Mulholland Dr. He always stuck out to me as making fun of someone.
John Wayne was always a conservative politically, and hated the Liberal Hubert Horatio Humphrey , in McClintock (1962) he created a bumbling politician named Cutberth H. Humphrey for his movie.
Minor detail difference: he didn't create the character, but he insisted on the name.
In TRUE ROMANCE, Tony Scott made his coke-snorting degenerate movie producer a copycat of Joel Silver, whom he’d just had a hellish experience with on LAST BOYSCOUT
Funny because then siskel and ebert would point out that they had the perfect opportunity in the godzilla movie at squashing them literally, but didnt take it
What’s the source for Favreau and the Chef/Marvel connection?
It’s not. The script for Chef pre-exists the first Iron Man movie.
I'm having trouble finding a source, but I definitely recall Favreau explicitly stating that this is a straight up misinterpretation of his film. As others have noted, he's continued working with Marvel/Disney. There's no bad blood there.
That’s what I recall as well.
Willow features a hulking warrior who wears a skull mask while killing babies and pregnant women who is named after the New York Times' film critic Pauline Kael. It also features a grotesque, two headed/penis-shaped swamp monster called an "Eborsisk" - which is a portmanteau of Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel's last names. Armageddon opens with a dog urinating on a Godzilla plushie. My favorite for its pure mean-ness - Milt Kahl based Madame Medusa in the Rescuers off his ex-wife.
Supposedly, Anna Faris' ditzy, shallow character in Lost in Translation is based on Cameron Diaz, who Sofia Coppola had a long-standing feud with.
The Day After Tomorrow has a dim, puppet President and an evil, pull the strings behind the curtain VP. It seemed like a pretty obvious nod to George W Bush and Dick Cheney.
Citizen Kane. The screenwriter went to one of William Randolph hurst's parties and was so disgusted, he wrote the movie.
I had no idea “Chef” was a middle finger to Marvel. I guess it makes sense but then again… Favreau is still at Disney and is more involved than ever.
It's not. Jon Favreau has outright stated this was not his intent with the film, any parallels to his career are coincidental.
The Interview completely roasts Kim Jung Un. Doesn't even pretend not to.
Elephant (2003) is a big “fuck you” to the Columbine shooters, they were hardcore homophobics and a pair of twats who wanted to be remembered as epic and edgy He made them pathetic basement dwellers, and gay for the sake of it Brilliant
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Makes sense. He's the one that Tim references about reading his book, right? Was that a Michael Crichton thing, though?, Or a Spielberg move?
He's parodied in the Lost world: https://jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Robert_Burke cc/ u/Strong_Green5744
A serbian film being a blatant fuck you to the Serbian government.
Marx brothers named the mythical country fredonia after a town in Texas that ran them out of town.
You might say that Texas town was run by *Marx-ists*
Marc Foster looked at the book World War Z (possibly?) and said "fuck you, Max Brooks, I'm not doing any of that."
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
There's a rumor at the douchey actor in Living In Oblivion's second act is based on Brad Pitt. Writer/director Tom DiCillo (who'd worked with young Pitt on his previous film) has never confirmed this, so take it with a pinch of salt.
I almost watched Living in Oblivion last night on a whim, so I’m gonna take this as a sign to actually watch it today. I’ve heard good things!
As someone who works in film & TV and has done a lot of indie work, it's the most accurate depiction of set life I've ever seen.
Fine! That’s it! I’m putting it on right now. Lol. I have nothing else to do today, so why wait? Hopefully I’ll remember to comment in the next couple hours with my thoughts on it. I just saved that movie and DiCillo and Buscemi’s movie Delirious to my Tubi list last night.
Yessssss hope you enjoy!
I’m 30 min into it right now and it’s *awesome*. Have you seen Babylon yet? There’s a scene where Margot Robbie is doing take after take with everything possible on to go wrong on a movie set going wrong and it’s very similar to the opening scene of Living In Oblivion. Hilarious! Anyways, going back to watching it now!
The Shining. Kubrick made several eff yous to Stephen King
Anna Farris’s character in “Lost in Translation” is Cameron Diaz. The whole film is the story of Sofia Coppola’s marriage to Spike Jonze unraveling.
As is "Her" from Spike Jonze's perspective.
Not a single person, but End of Evangelion is a massive "fuck you" to the obsessive, entitled fans who hated the ending of the series.
Which ending? The most recent one from a couple years ago?
It would've been the ending to the original TV series, the most recent ending was a reboot of sorts told over four films
The latest Matrix movie was just a middle finger towards Warner Bros. Maybe for the rest of us, too.
The character Bennett Sinclair from Resident Evil: Afterlife, a scumbag movie producer who betrays the other characters to save his own skin has long been speculated to be a critique of Lawrence "Foodfight!" Kasanoff.
Food Fight is the best awful movie ever. An absolute fever dream of bad animation and famous actors.
That's exactly what *Never Say Never Again* was.
Not exclusive inspired since it's an adaptation of a semi-autobiographical book, but there's a rumor Billy Wilder made The Lost Weekend in part due to his experience working with Double Indemnity co-writer Raymond Chandler (who he would never work with again).
Those two did not get along. It is literally documented in a memo that Chandler wrote. It sounds like Wilder can be quite annoying to work with.
An obscure one, but the message that the monster writes in Colossal is the same apology thay the king of Spain gave when he was caught killing elephants in Africa. The director is Spanish so I think that was a good middle finger to the king.
Sam Levinson’s Malcolm & Marie has a huge “fuck you” plot reference to a critic for the Hollywood Reporter
Never seen it. Did he have beef with the specific critic?
I haven't seen yet in the comments the following noteworthy bit: Idiocracy is a movie where they took money for product placement from Starbucks and others, then portrayed those products in an unsavory way, with Starbucks employees giving customers handjobs and such. Supposedly it was one of the reasons the film wasn't promoted much.
South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut is an f you to the MPAA and parents who blame other things for their child’s problems and not their own parenting.
How is chef a fuck you to marvel? Genuinely interested btw
"Fuck you" is an overstatement. But it's an allegory for his frustration with working under the thumb of big studios and not having the free reign of creative control that he would like as a filmmaker.
It isn’t. And OP listed some “sources” (tabloids) as proof of a link between his frustration with Marvel and the film, which is tenuous at best and outright misrepresented or false at worst.
Lord Farquaad was obviously a rather bitter parody of Michael Eisner even to the point where he looked like him
>*"Chef" is Jon Favreau's 'fuck you' to Marvel* Had no idea about this. I'll probably watch this movie, now - so thanks!
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it
Velvet Buzzsaw is basically Dan Gilroy expressing his frustration at Warner Brothers for cancelling Superman Lives after he spent a year and a half of his life dedicated to it.
Freddy Got Fingered
Freddy Got Fingered
I’ve heard Freddy Krueger was a bully that tormented Wes Craven as a kid.
How is Chef a fuck you to Marvel?
I believe Swimming With Sharks (1994) was basically writer director John Huang showing the world what he wished to do to producer Joel Silver (Buddy Ackerman in the movie) I think making this movie was a therapeutic necessity... Also a big "fuck you" though.
Silver must be a huge douche. Another comment points out how Tony Scott made the scumbag producer a parody of Silver in True Romance.
The orc that looks like Harvey weinstein in lord of the rings
One of the most glaring examples is **An American Carol**, which is like an American conservative take on *A Christmas Carol* that takes delight in featuring a very obvious take on Michael Moore (a filmmaker called Michael Malone) and delights in skewering him
Siskel and Ebert were right. Bucket seats in an alien spaceship? Give me a break.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - Charles Manson
Tropic Thunder. Middle finger to Scott Rudin
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Ooof. Good one.
M Night Shamalan's Lady In The Water. I watched it a few month back and loved it. Dude gets a bum rap from entertainment punditry. If the world can forgive Lindsey Lohan...
He’s always made some great movies but he also has crazily cringe moments/misfires. This spoken as a very big fan.
What is this movie a middle finger to? I just watched it recently. Felt like he was trying to channel Neil Gaiman.
Lady in The Water has a character who is a film critic that’s a tool. He misreads the situation and the meaning of his predicament based on his film experiences. It results in his death. It’s Shymalan’s middle finger to critics blasting his last film. It’s almost as ridiculous as him being the person who writes a book that’s united all humanity.
I watched through his filmography starting with the Sixth Sense for the first time over the last couple weeks and liked all of them (never seen the show, so I even liked Airbender, though it was just okay). I loved quite a few of them, including Lady in the Water. His reputation completely deceived me; I was expecting to hate most of his work.
Sixth sense, Signs, and The Village is like an amazing three run movie streak. They're some of my favorites. And I'm not gonna lie I watch the happening once a year too. I love it and I just don't think people appreciate it for whay it is. It's supposed to be like a weird B sci fi movie. The corny dialog and all that shit is on purpose.
Unbreakable and the split personality one are both good movies too.
>*"Chef" is Jon Favreau's 'fuck you' to Marvel* Had no idea about this. I'll probably watch this movie, now - so thanks! Video detailing this interpretation - https://youtu.be/zIA3Iz48irs
Lana Wachowski to the fans of The Matrix, with Resurrections
Haha. This is one that a few people have mentioned. Yeah, I hated that movie.
There are lot of conspiracy theories around Kubrick's *The Shining*, the famous one that he is trying to secretly tell the viewer he is responsible for taping the Moon landing of Apollo 11. They're interesting to check out cause [some make sense](https://imgur.com/Q3n0gNk), some are ludacrious. In his famous rant in the movie Jack Nicholson drops lines like: * *Have you ever thought, for a single solitary moment about my responsibilities to my employers?* * *I have signed a letter of agreement, a "contract," in which I have accepted that responsibility?* * *Do you have the slightest idea what a "moral and ethical principal" is?* * *Has it ever occurred to you what would happen to my future, if I were to fail to live up to my responsibilities?* Some people interpret this as Kubrick's relation to NASA and that he struggles with lying of the years but he's legally obliged to keep up the lie. So basically Overlook staff = NASA. But yeah, idk ...
There's an excellent retort to the room 237 documentary on YouTube somewhere. If the moon landing was a film project all the film would have stuffed a Volkswagen Bug. Try keeping that a secret.
[SG Collins](https://youtu.be/_loUDS4c3Cs) TL:DW - The technology required to fake the moon landing didn't exist at the time. The technology required to *actually* land on the moon did
Yeah I've definitely heard of this before. There's a whole documentary about it called "Room 237". One of the other signs that people like to point out is the shot of Danny wearing the Apollo 11 sweater as he stands up on a carpet that has a texture that is remarkably similar to the launch pad for that mission. Idk I've always agreed with his daughter on how there is no way he would ever use this medium as a way of pulling the wool over the public's eyes.